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1. 01:38 AM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (Dave Bigelow)
2. 06:43 AM - Twin Kolb (David Key)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border (WillUribe@aol.com)
4. 07:20 AM - Big Tennessee Fly-In Near Murfreesboro Sat August 12 (Scott Perkins)
5. 07:38 AM - Re: Twin Kolb (Herb Gayheart)
6. 09:25 AM - Re: Twin Kolb (KolbTwinstar@aol.com)
7. 09:39 AM - Fw: sensing problem (john s. flannery)
8. 10:32 AM - Re: Fw: sensing problem (Guy Morgan)
9. 11:41 AM - Re: Fw: sensing problem (john s. flannery)
10. 12:07 PM - Re: Fw: sensing problem (Guy Morgan)
11. 12:28 PM - Re: Fw: sensing problem (David Key)
12. 12:46 PM - Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces (John Hauck)
13. 12:57 PM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (John Hauck)
14. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (John Hauck)
15. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Trip North (John Hauck)
16. 02:59 PM - The New Kolb Aircraft Company Homeconing 2006 (John Williamson)
17. 05:30 PM - Xtra question (David Key)
18. 05:40 PM - Flight Review (David Key)
19. 07:59 PM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (Dave Bigelow)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Thanks for the feedback, Rick. The HKS gearbox can be mounted in an up or down
position just like the Rotax. If I mount it with gearbox down (2.58:1 ratio),
I have to raise the engine 3 inches higher than the Rotax 503 to get 1.5 inches
of clearance with a 66 inch prop from the fuselage tube. I don't want any
less than 1.5 inches clearance, and don't like the idea of raising the HKS 3
inches.
If I mount the HKS with the gear box up (3.47:1 ratio), I can keep the HKS at a
reasonable height on the mounts, but end up with a thrust line 4.75 inches higher
than the Rotax 503 thrust line.
I'm looking at a 3 blade 70 inch prop. I believe there will be more thrust than
the 503 produces, but not a lot more.
Here's a link to the Green Sky Adventures web site. There's a world of information on the HKS and lots of pictures of other ultralights using the HKS. http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/home.htm
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Whatever happend to this plane?
http://www.recpower.com/KOLB-1f.jpg
How did it fly? Any information on this?
>From: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion
>Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:37:45 -0700
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
>
>Thanks for the feedback, Rick. The HKS gearbox can be mounted in an up or
>down position just like the Rotax. If I mount it with gearbox down (2.58:1
>ratio), I have to raise the engine 3 inches higher than the Rotax 503 to
>get 1.5 inches of clearance with a 66 inch prop from the fuselage tube. I
>don't want any less than 1.5 inches clearance, and don't like the idea of
>raising the HKS 3 inches.
>
>If I mount the HKS with the gear box up (3.47:1 ratio), I can keep the HKS
>at a reasonable height on the mounts, but end up with a thrust line 4.75
>inches higher than the Rotax 503 thrust line.
>
>I'm looking at a 3 blade 70 inch prop. I believe there will be more thrust
>than the 503 produces, but not a lot more.
>
>Here's a link to the Green Sky Adventures web site. There's a world of
>information on the HKS and lots of pictures of other ultralights using the
>HKS. http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/home.htm
>
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>Dave Bigelow
>Kamuela, Hawaii
>FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=54026#54026
>
>
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| Subject: | FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border |
Hi Bill,
I use a Panasonic digital palmcorder model No. PV-GS200 with a Leica lens,
saves the digital video on tape and also saves 2.3 mega pixel still pictures
on a 1 GB memory card. The reason I liked this camcorder is it has a 3 CCD
image sensor system that handles color the same way as broadcast equipment
before they went to high definition cameras.
This picture was taken from the video, notice "La Migra's" watch tower on
the lower right hand corner, they are keeping our borders safe from terrorist.
The tower is enclosed like an airport control tower with air conditioning and
tinted windows. It is mounted on a trailer and can be moved any where along
the border. It uses hydraulics to raise and lower it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Vincent
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
Hi Will
The video was great! I am curious what is the model/make of the camera you
used. Was it a digital camera or a digital video camera? Sorry if you
already answered this question ... been having computer problems.
Thank you
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Guillermo Uribe" <WillUribe@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar II flying the US- Mexican border
.
> Be advised the file is 4.92 MB so dialups need not view it.
> http://members.aol.com/ELPEAA125/border.WMV
>
> Regards,
> Will Uribe
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| Subject: | Big Tennessee Fly-In Near Murfreesboro Sat August 12 |
Big Tennessee Fly-In Near Murfreesboro Sat August 12
Near Murfreesboro Salem Road Field Summer Fly-In
forwarded From: Herb Gayheart .............
Salem Road Field Summer Fly-In
Its time again for the 3rd annual Summer Fly-In hosted by
the Salem Road Field Flyers
This years event will be held on Saturday August 12, 2006
This is a Saturday fly-in with the field open for overnight camping
on Friday and Saturday nights.
While no competitions are scheduled, you never know what will come up on
the spur of the moment. Drawings throughout the day for prizes.
We will also be providing a sandwich lunch and Goulosh dinner on
Saturday and Pancake breakfast on Sunday morning.
Bring the spouse and the kids. The kids love our cable slide and cargo
net and tire swing.
Make sure to register for the prizes to be given away
2000x 80 grass runway (6 & 24) surrounded by open hay fields.
Hanger phone is (615) 286-4239
Directions.................
Driving: From Murfreesboro and I-24 go north on Highway 231
to about mile past Highway 452 (superspeedway highway).
Turn right on Simmons Bluff Road. Follow for about 4 miles
and turn right on Salem Road. Go over the one lane bridge
and after about 1000the driveway is on the left.
Watch for the orange sign and the wood fence down both
sides of the driveway. The address is 1925 Salem Road.
>From Lebanon and I-40 go south on Highway 231 about 9 miles.
Turn left on Simmons Bluff Road and follow direction above.
Flying: We are 4.7 miles and 102 east of the Fall Creek Airpark.
We are 11.7 miles and 030 NNE of Murfreesboro Airport.
We are 30.9 miles and 031 NNE of T-Top Airfield.
For those with a GPS we are at N3601.492 W08616.295
Calm wind runway is 24. Left hand pattern. Field elevation is 615.
CTAF 122.7
Windsocks are at both ends of runway and flag on NE corner of big
hangar.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Dave
I seem to recall that it was based in West Tenn somewhere? I remember
that it was for sale.. Likely too much of an odd ball for anyone to take
a chance and buy?
I have always like the idea of nesting the engine near the boom tube
and using a belt drive however.. :-) Herb
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:42:26 -0500 "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
>
> Whatever happend to this plane?
> http://www.recpower.com/KOLB-1f.jpg
> How did it fly? Any information on this?
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KolbTwinstar for sale. Flies great.
Phone # 314-258-1061 Tracy
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| Subject: | Fw: sensing problem |
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless of
the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are loose
in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit should
lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight contact. As
you can see not much care has been taken with this part of the bird.
Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: sensing problem |
Hi John,
Is it a float or capacitance system? Do you have a manual for it. Looks
like the wiring needs to be replaced at a minimum. Can you pull the unit
out and inspect it? That's what I would do to see if it can be repaired
or you need to replace it, IMHO.
Guy Morgan
Galveston, TX Firefly
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
To: a jsf<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless
of the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are
loose in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit
should lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight
contact. As you can see not much care has been taken with this part of
the bird. Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: sensing problem |
Guy,
No manual. Saw no float when cleaned the jugs on arrival. Not sure about
pulling the unit. No comprehension of how the unit fits in or is held in
...Will wait until I use the bulk of the fuel that is in the crossfeed
jugs since am going to a different oil anyway when this is expended.
Some of the Kolbers have me worried about mixing oils.
Thanks,
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Morgan
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
Hi John,
Is it a float or capacitance system? Do you have a manual for it.
Looks like the wiring needs to be replaced at a minimum. Can you pull
the unit out and inspect it? That's what I would do to see if it can be
repaired or you need to replace it, IMHO.
Guy Morgan
Galveston, TX Firefly
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery
To: a jsf
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless
of the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are
loose in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit
should lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight
contact. As you can see not much care has been taken with this part of
the bird. Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
don not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: sensing problem |
John,
It's most likely a float system, with the actual float concealed inside
a tube. I could be wrong, though, Sounds like maybe the float is
sticking if it works fine above half a tank. If it's a capacitance
system, there will be two adjustment screws either on the gauge, or the
sending unit. One for EMPTY, and one for FULL. You set your gauge to
Zero with the EMPTY screw and empty tanks, and to Full with the FULL
screw and full tanks.
>From the looks of your picture, though, a good cleaning, inspection, and
at least a wire terminal replacement will probably solve your problem. I
work with float and capacitance type systems on the helicopters I
maintain. Mostly capacitance.
Best Regards,
Guy Morgan
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
Guy,
No manual. Saw no float when cleaned the jugs on arrival. Not sure
about pulling the unit. No comprehension of how the unit fits in or is
held in ...Will wait until I use the bulk of the fuel that is in the
crossfeed jugs since am going to a different oil anyway when this is
expended. Some of the Kolbers have me worried about mixing oils.
Thanks,
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Guy Morgan<mailto:morganguy@hotmail.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
Hi John,
Is it a float or capacitance system? Do you have a manual for it.
Looks like the wiring needs to be replaced at a minimum. Can you pull
the unit out and inspect it? That's what I would do to see if it can be
repaired or you need to replace it, IMHO.
Guy Morgan
Galveston, TX Firefly
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
----- Original Message -----
From: john s. flannery<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
To: a jsf<mailto:jsflan@valornet.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: sensing problem
Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full
regardless of the two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws
here are loose in whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total
unit should lift off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight
contact. As you can see not much care has been taken with this part of
the bird. Suggestions? Thanks,
jsf
don not archive
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| Subject: | Fw: sensing problem |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
The arm could be stuck. Take your guage out. Then move the arm up and down.
If your fuel guage moves then your arm was probably stuck or the short is on
the sender side. If the guage doesn't move when you move the arm then your
short is on the guage side. If you replace the guage then go with one with
numbers near 30-250ohm. I forget the exact numbers but those are real close.
>From: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: sensing problem
>Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:37:13 -0700
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: john s. flannery
>To: a jsf
>Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 10:10 AM
>Subject: sensing problem
>
>
>Another problem on the Mark III, Gas gauge shows 1/4 full regardless of the
>two jugs being half full or quarter full. The screws here are loose in
>whatever nuts retain them and don't know if this total unit should lift
>off. Since screw is loose, probe is also not a tight contact. As you can
>see not much care has been taken with this part of the bird. Suggestions?
>Thanks,
>
>jsf
>
>don not archive
>
>
><< Kolbgasgauge35kb_8716.jpg >>
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Propeller Wash Over Horizontal Tail Surfaces |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| I found out
| that John H. was correct in that the propeller wash does contact the
| horizontal tail surfaces on the FireFly.
|
| Jack B. Hart FF004
Thanks Jack B:
Really had no reason to BS you about prop wash and tails, hehehe.
Just goes to show you I have learned something about the airplanes I
have been fly for a while now.
john h
Candy Hill RV Park, Winchester, VA (where they have more rules than
the Army. Nell said it is because we are so close to Wash, DC.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
and Slingshot also.
|
| If there is interest here on the Kolb List, I'll periodically post
pictures and progress reports. Let's keep questions and comments on
the List, rather than private emails. I have a question for the
"conversion master", John Hauck, if he will be so kind as to post that
he's seen this thread.
|
| --------
| Dave Bigelow
Hi Dave B:
Don't know about the "conversion master" handle, but I have read your
email.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
question: Does the Rotax 912 conversion on the Mark III involve a
higher thrust line than the original Rotax 582 design? If so, how
many inches, and was the pitch trim change appreciable?
|
| The HKS Firestar conversion will involve a higher thrust line than
that of the 503.
|
| --------
| Dave Bigelow
Dave B:
I am a firm believer in getting the thrust line as low as possible.
I am running a 72" three blade Warp with 3/4" clearance between prop
tip and tail boom. Most of you all will think I am off my rocker, as
usual, but that is ok. With more than 1,000.00 hours in this
configuration, I think I am flying safely.
Higher thrust lines kill power and reduce performance, especially
getting off the ground. Takes a lot of nose up pitch to overcome high
thrust. Would think it much better to raise the engine and lower the
thrust line.
No difference between mounting 582 and 912, if I remember correctly.
Again, pitch trim is governed by thrust line and hp.
Talked with Gerry Olenik at Oshkosh. He briefed me on your
participation.
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| Hey John,
| Thanks to your adventures and pictures of flying
around...
| and your advice during my building.... I,m now enjoying a little of
it myself
Hi Mike:
Wow! What an offer.
Without a doubt I know you mean what you say.
Thanks my friend.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | The New Kolb Aircraft Company Homeconing 2006 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot2@comcast.net>
I don't want anyone to forget that TNK Homecoming 2006 is on 22-24 Septermber
Fly-In, Drive-In or Ride-In, you will have a great time.
Pass the word to your flying friends and those that might be interested in buying
a Kolb.
I plan to get there on Thursday afternoon and will be available for anyone that
needs or wants a Flight Review on Friday and Saturday. Contact me off-list for
details on a Flight Review.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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How is the thing between the windshield and the gap seal attached? Rivets I
bet but I'd like to know.
Thanks,
David
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Are you giving the flight review in your plane? Are you able to endorse my
log book?
If you are a flight review in your plane would really help me. My flying
skills have been getting dull while I've been building. What do you charge?
David
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
> am running a 72" three blade Warp with 3/4" clearance between prop
> tip and tail boom. Most of you all will think I am off my rocker, as
> usual, but that is ok. With more than 1,000.00 hours in this
> configuration, I think I am flying safely
John,
Thanks for the info - I was thinking that 1.5 inches clearance from the tail boom
would be about as close as I would be comfortable with, but you can't argue
with success...... I spoke to Jerry Olenik today, and changed the HKS order
to an A gear box (2.58:1) mounted down. That way, I should be able to use my
66 inch Powerfin two blade prop, and still have more than 1/2 inch clearance from
the tail boom.
Should be an interesting comparison between the two engines, since I'll be using
the same gear ratios in a similar engine and prop RPM range.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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