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1. 03:46 AM - Yellow Firestar owner? (Thom Riddle)
2. 04:21 AM - Re: What a God I serve! (planecrazzzy)
3. 05:32 AM - Re: Yellow Firestar owner? (Eugene Zimmerman)
4. 08:46 AM - sensing problems (john s. flannery)
5. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: What a God I serve! (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
6. 11:10 AM - Re: What a God I serve! (Ralph Hoover)
7. 11:27 AM - Re: sensing problems (David Key)
8. 11:52 AM - Re: What a God I serve! (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 12:36 PM - Re: sensing problems (john s. flannery)
10. 01:15 PM - Re: What a God I serve! (planecrazzzy)
11. 01:28 PM - Re: sensing problems (planecrazzzy)
12. 03:50 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Vent (Steven Green)
13. 04:12 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Vent (Richard Girard)
14. 05:03 PM - Fule tank vent (Chris Mallory)
15. 05:06 PM - Re: Fuel Tank Vent (russ kinne)
16. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: sensing problems (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
17. 07:00 PM - Re: Fule tank vent (Denny Rowe)
18. 07:30 PM - Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman)
19. 07:31 PM - Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman)
20. 07:31 PM - Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman)
21. 07:32 PM - Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman)
22. 07:33 PM - Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm (Eugene Zimmerman)
23. 07:48 PM - Re: Fule tank vent (Richard Girard)
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| Subject: | Yellow Firestar owner? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
I went to a Fly-In at Dart Field (D79) in south western NY Saturday and
as I was departing, I saw a yellow Kolb Firestar arriving. If I had not
had to get back home, I'd have landed again and talked to the guy. It
was not Ed Steuber or Bob Bean. Their Kolbs are neither Firestars nor
yellow.
Does anyone on the list know who owns a yellow Firestar in western NY
or northwestern PA?
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hi Ralph,
Holy crap !
The fuel dripping......was it coming from the vents....?
I have some pictures of my vents being routed BELOW the tanks
Just in case it should go "belly up" the fuel won't leak....( hopefully )
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Yellow Firestar owner? |
Tom,
I sold a Firestar to a guy in upper Pa . two years ago, not sure
exactly where he lived but his name I believe was Louie Slyder.
Attached is a picture of the plane
On Aug 13, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
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> I went to a Fly-In at Dart Field (D79) in south western NY Saturday
> and as I was departing, I saw a yellow Kolb Firestar arriving. If I
> had not had to get back home, I'd have landed again and talked to
> the guy. It was not Ed Steuber or Bob Bean. Their Kolbs are
> neither Firestars nor yellow.
>
> Does anyone on the list know who owns a yellow Firestar in western
> NY or northwestern PA?
>
> Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | sensing problems |
Try to salvage or toss?
It's soaking in solvent, but a cruddy, corroded mess. Arm is free.
jsf
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
The arm could be stuck. Take your gauge out. Then move the arm up and
down.
If your fuel gauge moves then your arm was probably stuck or the short
is on
the sender side. If the gauge doesn't move when you move the arm then
your
short is on the gauge side. If you replace the gauge then go with one
with
numbers near 30-250ohm. I forget the exact numbers but those are real
close.
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Mike,
Thanks for the venting idea. I like it and will modify my MkIII that
way. Yeah and thanks for the Fly in pics....they're great.
AzDave
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> I have some pictures of my vents being routed BELOW the tanks
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> Just in case it should go "belly up" the fuel won't leak....( hopefully )
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Mike, That is a great (watch his head swell now) idea. It didn't initially register
but when it did, WOW! That is simple and does the job. Thanks. I have only
one question, clear venting. How do you know or make sure in your walk around
that the vents are clear of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or
faunta and/or floura?
I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident that the
system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for an everytime
problem.
Thanks again Mike.
P.S. here are a few more pictures of the plane up close and personal.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | sensing problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I have an aluminum tank so the fuel guage is a very important insturment to
me. I'd put a new one in in a second. Looks like you got your money's worth
on that one. But you still need to see what your problem was so does the
fuel guage move when you move the arm?
>From: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: sensing problems
>Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:43:14 -0700
>
>Try to salvage or toss?
>
>It's soaking in solvent, but a cruddy, corroded mess. Arm is free.
>
>jsf
>
>do not archive
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>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
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>The arm could be stuck. Take your gauge out. Then move the arm up and down.
>If your fuel gauge moves then your arm was probably stuck or the short is
>on
>the sender side. If the gauge doesn't move when you move the arm then your
>short is on the gauge side. If you replace the gauge then go with one with
>numbers near 30-250ohm. I forget the exact numbers but those are real
>close.
><< Contactsheet_0000.jpg >>
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
On Aug 12, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ralph Hoover wrote:
>
> Went down today. What a loving God I serve!
>
>
> Total damage, not including engine which will be checked out for
> crank damage; prop, sissy bars, underwear (just kidding), Pitot tube!
>
> That's right, no wing damage, no tail end damage, no nose damage
> (fiberglass),no tube damage, or landing gear, OR CAGE damage, thank
> you Homer, a little soy beans, a very small amount of pride (don't
> have much of that left, thank you Jesus), Chute did not deploy,
> thanks to the builder for putting it underneath rather than on top,
> and lastly, no physical damage!
WHAAAT ! ! ?? So little damage with a total flip (on the ground)
is unheard of ! ! !
Just don't EVER try that again! Ya hear now? ;^)
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| Subject: | Re: sensing problems |
Not at hangar now so can't check gauge. As far as the moneys-worth, I've had
less than 10 hours in the air, and maybe two or three of those enjoyable.
The rest of the time since mid-May acquisition has been repairing, rigging,
finding and waiting for parts and resurrecting the dead with email insight
from Kolbers, for which I am grateful. Every day something shows that needs
reviving or replacing. Wish I knew more about the history of this machine.
This morning early, with left door removed, I was able to work in the
direction of my earlier art photo aerials. Starting with some oblique of
the lake and got into near- vertical land art as the eye found it and the
ongoing rigging of the MKIII made it more comfortable to fly. Think this
jpg is small enough to be acceptable to the list.
jsf
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: sensing problems
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
>
> I have an aluminum tank so the fuel guage is a very important insturment
> to me. I'd put a new one in in a second. Looks like you got your money's
> worth on that one. But you still need to see what your problem was so does
> the fuel guage move when you move the arm?
>
>
>>From: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
>>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Kolb-List: sensing problems
>>Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 09:43:14 -0700
>>
>>Try to salvage or toss?
>>
>>It's soaking in solvent, but a cruddy, corroded mess. Arm is free.
>>
>>jsf
>>
>>do not archive
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>>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
>>
>>The arm could be stuck. Take your gauge out. Then move the arm up and
>>down.
>>If your fuel gauge moves then your arm was probably stuck or the short is
>>on
>>the sender side. If the gauge doesn't move when you move the arm then your
>>short is on the gauge side. If you replace the gauge then go with one with
>>numbers near 30-250ohm. I forget the exact numbers but those are real
>>close.
>
>
>><< Contactsheet_0000.jpg >>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What a God I serve! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Ralph,
First of all , it's not "my" idea.....I heard about running the
vents like that ,and thought it was a good idea....That's why I did it to my
system..... ( the guy talked about being upside down with fuel dripping on him
)
During my initial preflight, I need to go into that area for my squeeze bulb,
I guess I should be looking at the vents
No matter "How" you have your system , your gonna have to watch out
for something clogging it.....I guess some "fine" screen or nylon box around the
ends of the lines would solve that....?
Glad to hear your wings and tail aren't damaged....
Sounds like you'll be back in the air in "no time"
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
Ralph Hoover wrote:
> Mike, That is a great (watch his head swell now) idea. It didn't initially register
but when it did, WOW! That is simple and does the job. Thanks. I have
only one question, clear venting. How do you know or make sure in your walk around
that the vents are clear of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs,
or faunta and/or floura?
>
> I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident that
the system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for an everytime
problem.
>
> Thanks again Mike.
>
> P.S. here are a few more pictures of the plane up close and personal.
>
> Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: sensing problems |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I have a fuel gauge that doesn't even go in the tank , and it works great.
It's called the miZer ( Jack Hart has it too )
It tells me how much fuel is left ( in gals ) and it tells me "fuel Flow"
it has an alarm that you can set , But "I" couldn't hear it until I landed
It has a Stainless Steel Turbine on Jeweled bearings that goes inline on your
fuel line ( as long as you don't have a "return line" to the tank )
it has been VERY accurate....But it's 300 bucks ( Aircraft Spruce )
Just thought you might want to know.....
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
jsflan(at)valornet.com wrote:
> Try to salvage or toss?
>
> It's soaking in solvent, but a cruddy, corroded mess. Arm is free.
>
> jsf
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my fuel tank
vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
Steven Green
How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are clear
of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or floura?
>
> I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident
that the system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for an
everytime problem.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
Try bits of kitchen sponge in the end of the vent lines. If that's too shade
tree mechanic for you (couldn't help myself guys), you can find crankcase
vents designed to mount to hose with cool chrome fittings at your local
Harley dealer.
Rick
On 8/13/06, Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
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> I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my fuel tank
> vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
>
> Steven Green
>
>
> How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are clear
> of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or floura?
> >
> > I would be most interested in doing what you did, if I can be confident
> that the system can breath, or I might have traded a one time problem for
> an
> everytime problem.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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You can use aquarium air diffusers for vent filters, they are cheap and
disposable and plug right in to vent size tubing.
They come in a varity of sizes and styles (the glass bead ones work well).
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank Vent |
You an also tape a small piece of screen 'wire' -- fibreglass or
nylon, usually -- over the end of the vent tube. Secure it with
filament (strapping) tape & it will last for a few years. Can also
check vent lines for blockage by blowing into them. Can feel if
solidly blocked of if you're just blowing against a little tank
pressure. Lo-tech maybe but it worx.
On Aug 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Try bits of kitchen sponge in the end of the vent lines. If that's
> too shade tree mechanic for you (couldn't help myself guys), you
> can find crankcase vents designed to mount to hose with cool chrome
> fittings at your local Harley dealer.
>
> Rick
>
> On 8/13/06, Steven Green <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Steven Green" <
> Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
>
> I have included a link to a Pneumatic muffler that I used on my
> fuel tank
> vent that is routed to the bottom of the fuselage.
>
> http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1809701&PMT4NO=10617314
>
> Steven Green
>
>
> How do you know or make sure in your walk around that the vents are
> clear
> of (here's that word) Mud Daubers, spider webs, or faunta and/or
> floura?
>
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: sensing problems |
The Nav Man is the same fuel Guage Flow meter with same options and Cheaper
Ellery in Firestar with a Nav Man
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| Subject: | Re: Fule tank vent |
How about the little fuel filters like the ones in chainsaw or weed
whacker fuel tanks? I think they are called finger filters and they work
perfectly for keeping insects out of the vent lines.
Denny Rowe,
Mk-3, PA
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| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Happy Campers!
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| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Admiring Dan Walter's Ultrastar!
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| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Wonderful hanger flying by the Hauck! !
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| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
And you should have heard that'n !
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| Subject: | Sunday evening at the Kolb Farm |
Watch This !
Terry, Homer, Jim , and John,,,,,,, Ready, get set ,,,,,, Go!
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| Subject: | Re: Fule tank vent |
And then there is the option to use a cover with a "Remove Before Flight"
streamer or even the little spring loaded cover that's used on some GA
aircraft.
On 8/13/06, Denny Rowe <rowedl@highstream.net> wrote:
>
> How about the little fuel filters like the ones in chainsaw or weed
> whacker fuel tanks? I think they are called finger filters and they work
> perfectly for keeping insects out of the vent lines.
>
> Denny Rowe,
> Mk-3, PA
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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