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1. 01:20 AM - Re: a question (noel anderson)
2. 03:47 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 08/20/06 (tc1917)
3. 05:52 AM - Discussing other planes on the Kolb list. (Eugene Zimmerman)
4. 08:23 AM - Re: S.P. Practical Test (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
5. 08:29 AM - Re: S.P. Practical Test (pat ladd)
6. 08:47 AM - Re: S.P. Practical Test (pat ladd)
7. 09:33 AM - Re: 42 Practical test standards (pat ladd)
8. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/19/06 (pat ladd)
9. 04:27 PM - Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
10. 06:04 PM - Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 (Robert Laird)
11. 06:23 PM - Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 (R. Hankins)
12. 08:48 PM - Almost Done!! (David Key)
13. 09:13 PM - Re: Almost Done!! (APilot@webtv.net)
14. 09:16 PM - Re: Almost Done!! (Richard Girard)
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Hi Team. I'm with you Larry. A smile and a kind word don't cost much!!!
Happy Landings, Noel
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Could the answer be : because it is polite and doesn't cost a thing to
be nice. The question was asked in innocence and really did not deserve
a violent response. Guidance would have been much more productive.
Just a thought!
Larry, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Hi Richard,
Why exactly should we offer up knowledge of cheap
knock-offs? Last I looked, this is the KOLB list.
As for 'crusty socks', now I know why my mouse acts funny.
Thanks!!
Ed in JXN
MkII/503 (Real)
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: a question
Oh please, "don't ask that question"? If this forum isn't for the
dissemination of knowledge about Kolb aircraft or copies of it, what is
its use? I admit I sometimes wonder if it's actually for the rantings of
pre adolescent boys who haven't taken up masterbation yet, but that's
just my take. Bob, ask away, you'll soon learn who has knowledge to
share and who has crusty socks.
On 8/20/06, BOB BROCKMAN <packerbeagle@msn.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "BOB BROCKMAN"
<packerbeagle@msn.com>
I was not aware that there were certain questions that coludn't
be asked. I
saw the article in the August 2006 issue of Ultralight Flying
and wanted to
know how the two aicraft compare. The other people may have
ripped of Kolb.
I don't know. Thats not the question.
I have read the information on this group for month's. Its good
for the most
part but, when one person gets bent out of shape over a
question....
You are entitled to you opinion.
bob
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 28 Msgs - 08/20/06 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "tc1917" <tc1917@hughes.net>
I usually dont answer to such as what has been posted on the Ferguson. J.
Hawk was referring to my good buddy who has had two fergs and I gotta answer
this as honestly as I can. I have probably more knowledge of this plane
than most of you on the list (obviously). I am not going to defend the
stealing of ideas but lets face it, if people hadnt stollen ideas, enhanced
them, worked them out, we would only have one airplane available - the
wright aircraft. Now, Ferg took an idea (which was originated by mr kolb
and redesigned some of it, streamlined some of it and cheapened some of it.
What he came out with was a light, well constructed similar aircraft. (many
planes fold tails as the kolb). (many planes fold wings as the kolb). Now,
my problem with the plane is it is structually unsound. I mean, when it
crashes, it comes apart, litterly. The same thing happens to any plane that
is mainly constructed with alum. (crash a challenger once -- whoa,
toothpics). Now, this plane has gone through many changes and it does
resemble a kolb but not that much. It has a different airfoil, wing built
totally different; wing tips different; tail section IS different, folding
design change; wider flatter fuse; many different things. I cannot for by
any spread of the imagination say this looks like a kolb. It is a great
flyer *(how many of you have actually flown one?) I have. It doesnt need a
912 to push it. Now, as I said earlier, I am not defending this company but
they as you or any other person or company, has the right to build a plane.
You have the right to take the best of all and make it the best for you.
Look at most of the -- I will call them - plastic LSPs out there. Same
mold. Same fuse, wing, tail. who stole it from whom? Quit this petty
garbage of bad mouthing a plane expecially if you really dont have any
knowledge on it! Get out there an check it out. If you like a plane buy
it. It is your opinion that counts. You will always be welcome to fly next
to my great Kolb SlingShot. My opinion. Thanks. Ted Cowan, Alabama
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| Subject: | Discussing other planes on the Kolb list. |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
My opinion,
I find nothing objectionable about discussing another companys
planes as long as the discussion is kept in some way related to, and
in comparison with Kolb planes.
I believe competition is a good. We all like to get the most bang for
our buck. I am of the opinion that Kolb has nothing to fear and much
to gain by being compared with other companies and their products.
A persons defensive attitude merely evidences his insecurity about
the actual merits of the Kolb Company and their products. I believe a
defensive attitude is a negative advertisement for Kolb.
I believe telling the truth about Kolb planes AND about Kolbs
competition is what the kolb list should be all about.
The more I learn about Ferguson the better I like my Kolb.
On Aug 20, 2006, at 2:13 AM, BOB BROCKMAN wrote:
> Being a new guy, my question is concerning an aircraft similar to a
> Kolb.
> Can anyone tell me about an airplane called the Ferguson FX -4-2?
> I would appreciate any comments regarding the aircraft.
>
> thanks,
>
> bob
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| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
Hi George,
Yes there are. Ted Gillespie has passed his written and so has Rich
Edgar. A new member is just getting started and there may be a couple
more that I'm not aware of. Ted is poised to take his practical in the
next two weeks and I plan to take mine before the end of Sept. Rich is
totally dissilusioned by flying and apparently isn't going any further.
There are a number of good study aids to take the written. Ted took the
King course (I think around $130) and liked it. I just looked around
and can't find the study aid I took and don't remember what it was (I
hate getting old) but I don't think it cost anything. All of the test
questions are on the FAA site and you can review them there. I have
taken a couple of lessons from H.L. down in Marana but I'm leaving for
Oregon Wednesday. When I get back, I'm gonna help a friend cover his
MKIIIXtra and he, being a private pilot, is gonna teach me all about
navigation and reading charts and flight planning. Then I'll go back to
H.L. and get as much training as he thinks I need to take the practical.
There's a lot of stuff on the practical about flight planning,
navigating, turns about a point, "S" turns down a road, short field
landings, etc.
The big question for you is were you a registered pilot with any of
the three organizations prior to Sept 2004? If the answer is yes, then
you've got a big advantage but that advantage runs out Jan 31 2007.
I'll be home later this morning and you can call if you need more info.
771-2295
Dave
P.s. Out Open House is on Oct 14 this year.
----- Original Message -----
From: George Bass
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: S.P. Practical Test
Dave Pelletier;
Are there any others, in the Black Mesa Flyers,
that are working toward their Sport Pilot ticket?
With whom have you been working? Any chance
another person could get some instruction there?
I'm now able to do so, and I'm chomping at the bit
to get started, so any direction from you would be
gratefully appreciated. TIA,
George Bass
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
"what does a flashing red light mean?" then you shouldn't be allowed to
go to the book. But if the question asks "How much time do you have to
report an accident?" then you should since in the "real world" you'd have
time . I haven't taken my practical test yet - plan to within
the next month >>
Hi ,
Point taken. Good luck with the test.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: S.P. Practical Test |
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| Subject: | Re: 42 Practical test standards |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pat, when you have time, would you please post a brief review of the test
you took. that you are comparing to the S.P. test, I would be interested in
the differences.>>
Hi Lanny,
I was not `having a go`,or comparing your test with anything which we have
here and I respect you for undertaking such a task, I was referring to the
general dumbing down process we have here. I know that when I took exams
either at or just after leaving school (we are talking the forties here) it
was expected that the examinee produced an answer to a question from his
memory. Later this changed to questions to which the examinee could choose
from 3 or more supplied answers. With a one in three chance of being right
even if you had never studied the subject student passes increased.
Reflecting great credit on the teachers, who, surprise, surprise, had
pushed for the change.
Being able to look up the answers during an exam seemed on the face of it
just another step in the watering down process.
In the UK it is government policy that everyone should be able to go to
University. They built Universities and then had to fill them so they
lowered the standards. They deny this of course but that is what most people
believe. Consequently instead of Universities taking the educated cream of
the crop and educating them further, free, which I believe should be the
way, they now take many who do not have the ability or the application to
benefit from the opportunity and make them pay. Many leave before completion
of their courses and many take soft options like media studies, social
studies and the like and finish up with a degree as a social worker. Lord
help us. Engineers, chemists, science based courses are way down the list.
The tests here for an ultralight license are pretty much the same as for a
PPL. A flying test, meteorology, air law, etc.Its all a long time ago and
like the car drivers test which I took at 18, I would not like to have to do
it again.. A radio license is an option and you are illegal if you operate
one (even a hand held) without having passed the test
Cheers
Pat.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 08/19/06 |
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| Subject: | Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
Guys,
Here are some pics of my little invention - "The Spider." Best
control lock I've seen yet. When in place and tightened, it feels like
the control stick is welded in place. The MV guys liked it and some
copied it. Someone modified the design but the modification didn't work
as well as the original (heh, heh, heh - sorry, I couldn't resist.) I
works a lot better than a seat belt and just takes a minute more to
install. If you make one, a key point is to cut a groove in the PVC at
each place the rings go, otherwise the rings will tend to flop over. If
you make both the fore and aft straps adjustable, then you can set the
elevator where you want it, up or down. Mine isn't adjustable so the
elevator is locked in neutral. One of these days I'll change forward
strap to an adjustable one.
AzDave
Aw what the hell, go ahead an archive.
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Dave --
You should use standard stainless steel plumbers straps and then you
could use this D-Ring Bracket:
http://scubagear.stores.yahoo.net/004136.html
With the D-Ring Bracket, you not only will not "capture" the d-ring
(i.e., it will move freely), but you won't risk hurting the PVC.
I use these in diving all the time.
-- Robert
On 8/21/06, Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
> Here are some pics of my little invention - "The Spider." Best control
> lock I've seen yet. When in place and tightened, it feels like the control
> stick is welded in place. The MV guys liked it and some copied it. Someone
> modified the design but the modification didn't work as well as the original
> (heh, heh, heh - sorry, I couldn't resist.) I works a lot better than a
> seat belt and just takes a minute more to install. If you make one, a key
> point is to cut a groove in the PVC at each place the rings go, otherwise
> the rings will tend to flop over. If you make both the fore and aft straps
> adjustable, then you can set the elevator where you want it, up or down.
> Mine isn't adjustable so the elevator is locked in neutral. One of these
> days I'll change forward strap to an adjustable one.
>
> AzDave
>
> Aw what the hell, go ahead an archive.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: HPIM0907, HPIM0908, HPIM0909, HPIM0910, HPIM0912 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Great idea. Simple and easy to pack into a small space. I'm going to make one
and keep it stowed in my KXP. Thanks for the info.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56199#56199
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Almost done the DAR can't see it till Sept 8th!! I wanted to do the first
flight labor day. The pic was huge (1.6meg), I shrunk it down and saved it
as a .GIF (300k) hope that worked.
John W. came by and took a look a while ago. Everything was going smoothly
for the first 5 minutes, then he ask me to give him a note pad and leave the
hangar while he stayed and inspected my plane. 90 minutes later he had 65
things to do better!!! I'm done with his list, greatfull for it, and ready
to fly.
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| Subject: | Re: Almost Done!! |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
That is a pretty airplane...congrats
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| Subject: | Re: Almost Done!! |
David that is one beautiful plane. Bravo.
On 8/21/06, David Key <dhkey@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Almost done the DAR can't see it till Sept 8th!! I wanted to do the first
> flight labor day. The pic was huge (1.6meg), I shrunk it down and saved it
> as a .GIF (300k) hope that worked.
>
> John W. came by and took a look a while ago. Everything was going smoothly
> for the first 5 minutes, then he ask me to give him a note pad and leave
> the
> hangar while he stayed and inspected my plane. 90 minutes later he had 65
> things to do better!!! I'm done with his list, greatfull for it, and ready
> to fly.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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