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1. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: A sleepless night (robert bean)
2. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Champs and Chumps (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: Champs and Chumps (Robert Laird)
4. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: Champs and Chumps (David Key)
5. 02:54 PM - Test... (Mike Pierzina)
6. 03:15 PM - Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures (planecrazzzy)
7. 03:20 PM - Test, Ignore... (Matts Test Account)
8. 03:24 PM - Re: Test... (Matt Dralle)
9. 03:33 PM - Re: "Jaz" modeling her "Mutt Muffs" (planecrazzzy)
10. 04:27 PM - Re: Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures (Mike Schnabel)
11. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Champs and Chumps (Larry Bourne)
12. 04:40 PM - Re: Re: Champs and Chumps (John Hauck)
13. 04:45 PM - Re: Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures (Larry Bourne)
14. 05:35 PM - New Guy (ropermike)
15. 05:48 PM - Re: New Guy (ron wehba)
16. 05:51 PM - Re: New Guy (robert bean)
17. 06:01 PM - Re: New Guy (Chris Mallory)
18. 06:13 PM - Re: New Guy (ropermike)
19. 07:36 PM - Firestar II to Firefly (Al Bumhoffer)
20. 07:56 PM - Please map yourself on www.Frappr.com (David Key)
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| Subject: | Re: A sleepless night |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
The salt water mentioned says a lot. It is a little difficult to
inspect a tail boom
near the center. Currently mine has a coating of oil inside from an
early in flight
oil leak (6 gts in two short hops). Aside from corrosion, dents in
some areas
are more important than others. Anything close to the cage is worse
than damage
back by the tail by virtue of the leverage involved. If you have ever
taken a chunk
of boom tube or spar and bent it to destruction, it sure breaks easily
when bent a few times.
When using wrenches on the prop or rear of the engine I plop an old rug
on the boom tube
to compensate for my two left hands.
BB, good fungus growing weather in upstate NY
On 28, Aug 2006, at 6:02 PM, john s. flannery wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery"
> <jsflan@valornet.com>
>
> Not into being an alarmist, but found this a while back and haven't
> heard a Kolber raise a peep about boom inspection. Nor do I know how
> to go about that task. Doubt the feds have followed up on booms
> generally. I have dealt with major aluminum corrosion previously and
> one old pilot and rebuilder said I saved him money. Said he wouldn't
> have to send flowers to my funeral.
> http://www.ultralightnews.ca/advisories1/drifter-structuralfailure.htm
>
> jsf
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: A sleepless night
>
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>>
>> The Kolb is a breed apart with zero stuff moving about inside.I
>> elected to close it up forever or until something falls apart.
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>> I did that with my Challenger for the same reason but the Inspector
>> made me cut inspection holes just the same. I suppose it would be a
>> good thing to find corrosion before the wing drops off.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> do not archive
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>>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Champs and Chumps |
In a message dated 8/29/2006 12:44:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ruscok@gmail.com writes:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ruscok" <ruscok@gmail.com>
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> Steve-
> If you wouldnt mind, I would like to see a picture of your Kolb on floats.
>
>
> Thanks
> Kendall
>
Hi Kendall,
You can see some good pictures at :
http://www.skyshops.org/FLOATSHOME/floatshome.htm
Go to the bottom of that page and click on Firefly
www.tnkolbaircraft.com also has a few shots.
I am not up to speed on how to post directly on the list but I will send you
one direct.
If you have access to a lake the Firefly on floats is more fun than should be
legal.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Champs and Chumps |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Don't worry... I'm sure the FAA is working on that. :-(
On 8/29/06, N27SB@aol.com <N27SB@aol.com> wrote:
> If you have access to a lake the Firefly on floats is more fun than should
> be legal.
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| Subject: | Re: Champs and Chumps |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
The FAA slogan is, "we're not happy till your not happy"
do not archive
>From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Champs and Chumps
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:59:11 -0500
>
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
>Don't worry... I'm sure the FAA is working on that. :-(
>
>On 8/29/06, N27SB@aol.com <N27SB@aol.com> wrote:
>> If you have access to a lake the Firefly on floats is more fun than
>>should
>>be legal.
>
>
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I can't get the "new" list to work...Testing the back door...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
I was at the Cherry Grove Fly-in this weekend, Tim had wrote to me before....He
knew what my plane looked like , but not me...
There was a few of us Kolb guys talking about "building stuff" , when this guy
comes up ( tim Bjork ) and asks , any of you Mike ?.....
I thought , oh crap, did my dog do something..... I said yeah, that's me.
Then he explained who he was, and showed me pictures of his Newly built & painted
Firestar II , He builds and paints better than he uses a computer....So he
asked me to post his pictures here for him....
His first message to me didn't come with the pictures....so he tried again.
Tim, when you read this....Basicly do the same thing "Here" as you did when you
sent "me" the pictures....
Here's the pictures ( 3 per message )
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS Tim , reply here and talk about your runway and future hanger...
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Matts Test Account" <info@matronics.com>
This is a test post, please ignore.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
At 02:53 PM 8/29/2006 Tuesday, you wrote:
>I can't get the "new" list to work...Testing the back door...
>
> Gotta Fly...
>Mike in MN
My bad... I installed a patch on the BBS Forum today to minimize spammer activity,
but fat-fingered one of the file edits. I've fixed the problem and posting
is working from the Forums now!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
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| Subject: | Re: "Jaz" modeling her "Mutt Muffs" |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hi Bob,
She's not really "belted in" ...she's been locked in the "Cat Box"
and it's bungied down... ( shhhhh, don't tell her it's a "cat box" )
Although, I have a Harness for her that goes around her neck & Chest...
I've been thinking about setting her in the back seat with "two" leashes
one on each side...giving her a little freedom but keeping her in check...
I've also been thinking about her riding in front , between my legs...
But I think for now she feels a little secure in the box...She sure doesn't have
any problem going in it....in fact I have a hard time getting her back OUT
to put her sweater on.....I have to just walk away...then she tries to follow....
You said your dog is happy to wait for you....I used to leave mine in
the truck too , but on longer flights that wouldn't be very good...
and now...She just wants to go!
Gotta Fly...
Mike & Jaz in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures |
Mike,
Thanks for posting Tim's pics, great paint scheme there! I like it!
Tim, maybe some higher resolution pics next time... (oh crap, here come the dial
up guys...)
but would like to see the details, within reason!
Again, very nice job!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
I was at the Cherry Grove Fly-in this weekend, Tim had wrote to me before....He
knew what my plane looked like , but not me...
There was a few of us Kolb guys talking about "building stuff" , when this guy
comes up ( tim Bjork ) and asks , any of you Mike ?.....
I thought , oh crap, did my dog do something..... I said yeah, that's me.
Then he explained who he was, and showed me pictures of his Newly built & painted
Firestar II , He builds and paints better than he uses a computer....So he
asked me to post his pictures here for him....
His first message to me didn't come with the pictures....so he tried again.
Tim, when you read this....Basicly do the same thing "Here" as you did when you
sent "me" the pictures....
Here's the pictures ( 3 per message )
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
PS Tim , reply here and talk about your runway and future hanger...
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| Subject: | Re: Champs and Chumps |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Naw.........they'll prob'ly tax it. :-) Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Champs and Chumps
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
>
> Don't worry... I'm sure the FAA is working on that. :-(
>
> On 8/29/06, N27SB@aol.com <N27SB@aol.com> wrote:
>> If you have access to a lake the Firefly on floats is more fun than
>> should
>> be legal.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Champs and Chumps |
send you
| one direct.
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| Steve
Steve B:
You may post to the Kolb List by sending attachments with your email
post. Simple as pie.
john h
mkIII
PS: My photo of Miss P'fer (peefer) was taken on the Dempster Highway
between Dawson City, Yukon Territory and Eagle Plains, YT, on my
return flight from Tuktoyoktuk, Northwest Territy, Canada.
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| Subject: | Re: Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures |
Go for it. As long as they're posted as attachments they shouldn't
cause any problems. Open or not, as you choose.
Lar. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Schnabel
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tim Bjork's Firestar II / Pictures
Mike,
Thanks for posting Tim's pics, great paint scheme there! I like it!
Tim, maybe some higher resolution pics next time... (oh crap, here
come the dial up guys...)
but would like to see the details, within reason!
Again, very nice job!
Mike S
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
Hello guys! Let me introduce myself. My name is Mike Hillger and I'm from Garden
City, Texas. Thats halfway between Dallas and El Paso. I'm currently working
as a oil field drilling consultant in Columbia, Ms. I work 5 or 6 weeks at a
time and then go home for a week or so.
I am a Private Pilot and have about 300 hrs in a Piper Pacer that I sold back in
'96. I became infatuated with youre Kolbs and the Idea of owning one and hauling
it to various places and exploring from 500'! I have been lurking for about
6 months and have all the archives read up to 2003. Two months ago I stumbled
upon an ad in Barnstormers and before I knew it, John Cooley had babtized
me into the wonderful world of Kolb! I purchased his Mk ll. I have about 10 hrs
in the plane and I'm having a ball! I feel guilty after reading about all the
building all of you had to do but I'll get over it. When I get back home for
good I do plan on building a Mklll but dont tell my wife!
I havnt had anything to add to your forum cause I've been trying to soak up all
your knowledge. I do plan on doing some mods to the plane but for now i will
be content to just practice flying it. I might try to license it later but I
am having trouble soaking up all the complicated BS with the new rules and being
legal. I swore when I sold the Pacer, big brother would never know about my
next plane! (I'm still getting AD's after 10 years of not owning it!)I did buy
a boat trailer and modified it to haul the little plane around and it works
nicely but it's still evolving.
I posted a pic but I dont know if its there or not as Im new to posting. I hope
to be at the October Light in Lucedale and maybe I can meet a few of you......Thanks,
Mike Hillger
P.S....Whats all these smiley faces staring at me from the left?
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net>
hummm!!! south of big spring ,, hi from sweetwater, use-ta have a
ultrastar,, sold it and WANT it back.. oh well ,anyway welcome
----- Original Message -----
From: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: New Guy
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello guys! Let me introduce myself. My name is Mike Hillger and I'm from
> Garden City, Texas. Thats halfway between Dallas and El Paso. I'm
> currently working as a oil field drilling consultant in Columbia, Ms. I
> work 5 or 6 weeks at a time and then go home for a week or so.
>
> I am a Private Pilot and have about 300 hrs in a Piper Pacer that I sold
> back in '96. I became infatuated with youre Kolbs and the Idea of owning
> one and hauling it to various places and exploring from 500'! I have been
> lurking for about 6 months and have all the archives read up to 2003. Two
> months ago I stumbled upon an ad in Barnstormers and before I knew it,
> John Cooley had babtized me into the wonderful world of Kolb! I purchased
> his Mk ll. I have about 10 hrs in the plane and I'm having a ball! I feel
> guilty after reading about all the building all of you had to do but I'll
> get over it. When I get back home for good I do plan on building a Mklll
> but dont tell my wife!
>
> I havnt had anything to add to your forum cause I've been trying to soak
> up all your knowledge. I do plan on doing some mods to the plane but for
> now i will be content to just practice flying it. I might try to license
> it later but I am having trouble soaking up all the complicated BS with
> the new rules and being legal. I swore when I sold the Pacer, big brother
> would never know about my next plane! (I'm still getting AD's after 10
> years of not owning it!)I did buy a boat trailer and modified it to haul
> the little plane around and it works nicely but it's still evolving.
>
> I posted a pic but I dont know if its there or not as Im new to posting. I
> hope to be at the October Light in Lucedale and maybe I can meet a few of
> you......Thanks, Mike Hillger
>
> P.S....Whats all these smiley faces staring at me from the left?
>
> [/img]
>
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> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike
> Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58341#58341
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Welcome aboard Kolb World Mike. That's a pretty airplane.
re: building another plane, quit now while you are ahead
and get an N number glued on that one.
(bet you could fly for a long time with just numbers and no
papers) :) -accident free of course.
-BB do not archive
On 29, Aug 2006, at 8:35 PM, ropermike wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello guys! Let me introduce myself. My name is Mike Hillger and I'm
> from Garden City, Texas. Thats halfway between Dallas and El Paso. I'm
> currently working as a oil field drilling consultant in Columbia, Ms.
> I work 5 or 6 weeks at a time and then go home for a week or so.
>
> I am a Private Pilot and have about 300 hrs in a Piper Pacer that I
> sold back in '96. I became infatuated with youre Kolbs and the Idea of
> owning one and hauling it to various places and exploring from 500'!
> I have been lurking for about 6 months and have all the archives read
> up to 2003. Two months ago I stumbled upon an ad in Barnstormers and
> before I knew it, John Cooley had babtized me into the wonderful world
> of Kolb! I purchased his Mk ll. I have about 10 hrs in the plane and
> I'm having a ball! I feel guilty after reading about all the building
> all of you had to do but I'll get over it. When I get back home for
> good I do plan on building a Mklll but dont tell my wife!
>
> I havnt had anything to add to your forum cause I've been trying to
> soak up all your knowledge. I do plan on doing some mods to the plane
> but for now i will be content to just practice flying it. I might try
> to license it later but I am having trouble soaking up all the
> complicated BS with the new rules and being legal. I swore when I sold
> the Pacer, big brother would never know about my next plane! (I'm
> still getting AD's after 10 years of not owning it!)I did buy a boat
> trailer and modified it to haul the little plane around and it works
> nicely but it's still evolving.
>
> I posted a pic but I dont know if its there or not as Im new to
> posting. I hope to be at the October Light in Lucedale and maybe I can
> meet a few of you......Thanks, Mike Hillger
>
> P.S....Whats all these smiley faces staring at me from the left?
>
> [/img]
>
> --------
> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and
> losing!...Mike Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58341#58341
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" <wcm@tampabay.rr.com>
Mike,
Welcome to our world.
Nice looking airplane.
Chris Mallory
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:35 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: New Guy
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello guys! Let me introduce myself. My name is Mike Hillger and I'm from
> Garden City, Texas. Thats halfway between Dallas and El Paso. I'm
> currently working as a oil field drilling consultant in Columbia, Ms. I
> work 5 or 6 weeks at a time and then go home for a week or so.
>
> I am a Private Pilot and have about 300 hrs in a Piper Pacer that I sold
> back in '96. I became infatuated with youre Kolbs and the Idea of owning
> one and hauling it to various places and exploring from 500'! I have been
> lurking for about 6 months and have all the archives read up to 2003. Two
> months ago I stumbled upon an ad in Barnstormers and before I knew it,
> John Cooley had babtized me into the wonderful world of Kolb! I purchased
> his Mk ll. I have about 10 hrs in the plane and I'm having a ball! I feel
> guilty after reading about all the building all of you had to do but I'll
> get over it. When I get back home for good I do plan on building a Mklll
> but dont tell my wife!
>
> I havnt had anything to add to your forum cause I've been trying to soak
> up all your knowledge. I do plan on doing some mods to the plane but for
> now i will be content to just practice flying it. I might try to license
> it later but I am having trouble soaking up all the complicated BS with
> the new rules and being legal. I swore when I sold the Pacer, big brother
> would never know about my next plane! (I'm still getting AD's after 10
> years of not owning it!)I did buy a boat trailer and modified it to haul
> the little plane around and it works nicely but it's still evolving.
>
> I posted a pic but I dont know if its there or not as Im new to posting. I
> hope to be at the October Light in Lucedale and maybe I can meet a few of
> you......Thanks, Mike Hillger
>
> P.S....Whats all these smiley faces staring at me from the left?
>
> [/img]
>
> --------
> The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike
> Hillger
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58341#58341
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/pb270006_small_912.jpg
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
Thanks guys,,,,,mmmmm Sweetwater!.......I'm gettin homesick!...How do Kolbs fly
in the wind? I havnt had mine home yet.
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The next best thing to playing and winning is playing and losing!...Mike Hillger
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| Subject: | Firestar II to Firefly |
Does the Firefly use the same size and shape ribs as a Firestar? I'm
just wondering if as a last resort a Firestar could be converted to a
Firefly clone by shortening the wings, fuselage, boom tube, cage, etc.,
to reduce weight. I know this sounds like a lot of work and it might be
easier to go the Sport Pilot route, or sell the plane and buy a firefly.
Just thinking out loud with the Sport Pilot deadline looming and making
unregistered fat ul's worthless.
Al Bumhoffer, Firestar II, Elkton MI
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| Subject: | Please map yourself on www.Frappr.com |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
Mike Hillger and everyone that hasn't ploted themselfs on www.Frappr.com,
please do so. I hope to be flying around soon and want to stop in if I'm
near.
Thanks,
David
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