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1. 05:55 AM - Re: Y B NORMal (N27SB@aol.com)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: Y B NORMal (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 06:42 AM - Re: float planes (Robert Laird)
4. 07:32 AM - Re: float planes (N27SB@aol.com)
5. 08:02 AM - Re: Early Birds/Sausage Feast (APilot@webtv.net)
6. 08:26 AM - Flying Rivers (John Hauck)
7. 08:30 AM - Re: Early Birds/Sausage Feast (John Hauck)
8. 09:11 AM - Back in the air (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
9. 09:12 AM - Re: Flying Rivers (N27SB@aol.com)
10. 10:39 AM - Re: terrain (Charlie England)
11. 11:05 AM - Re: float planes (Arksey@aol.com)
12. 11:05 AM - Re: Y B NORMal (rap@isp.com)
13. 11:49 AM - Re: terrain (john s. flannery)
14. 12:51 PM - Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 (contrabassoon)
15. 02:42 PM - Re: Y B NORMal (N27SB@aol.com)
16. 06:30 PM - Oshkosh 2006 pictures (Bill Vincent)
17. 08:32 PM - Re: Flying Rivers (Bob Noyer)
18. 08:34 PM - Re: terrain (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
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Hi Rick, you are right. How is your project going?
steve
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For those of you who contacted me off line, here is another shot. Bryan
Melborn at the stick.
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| Subject: | Re: float planes |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Jim --
That's something I've thought about too... I owned a seaplane for a
couple of years and really wanted to do something like that, but never
got around to it. Mostly it was just work, and stuff, getting in the
way, but part of it was the issue of landing on water in different
political areas... Each state has different rules about where you can
land... in some states, it's okay to land anywhere with certain
exceptions... in other states, it's NOT okay to land anywhere except
and airport, with a few exceptions. So, to travel cross-country with
the intention of landing on different bodies of water, you'd have to
be careful about the rules/regs of each plane. Most federal waterways
are out of bounds, too, for seaplane activity.
The Seaplane Pilots Association (seaplanes.org) has a directory that
helps with this kind of situation, so if you ever decide to do this,
I'd strongly recommend you join SPA and get their directory.
Now, having said all that, I've had lots of experience landing small
ultralights in all kinds of places, and it's been rare that I've ever
had a problem with the locals... in fact, usually the opposite... they
are usually friendly as all get out, but occasionally you run across
someone that got up on the wrong side of life. But I'd imagine if you
set about to do a cross-country with an amphibious ultralight, that
you'd find all kinds of nice people... even law enforcement is pretty
level-headed about UL flyers.
Good luck to you with your new Kolb!
-- Robert
On 8/31/06, Arksey@aol.com <Arksey@aol.com> wrote:
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> Hello group,
> You fellows flying and talking about flying Kolb's on floats brings me
> back to my thoughts as grandson Kendall and myself were bringing the
> firestar back from Oklahoma with him doing the flying and I the driving.
> When we went thru the lake of the Ozarks, over the Missouri and Mississippi
> rivers I thought to myself what a wonderful thing it would be to fly these
> major river systems with a kolb on floats, this I expressed to kendall in a
> discussion we had about the subject. I have got to believe a person would
> see some wonderful country, meet some interesting people and have plenty of
> places to land...has anyone done it or had such thoughts?
>
> jim swan FS II
> Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: float planes |
In a message dated 8/31/2006 1:55:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, Arksey@aol.com
writes:
> I have got to believe a person would see some wonderful country, meet some
> interesting people and have plenty of places to land...has anyone done it or
> had such thoughts?
>
> jim swan FS II
> Michigan
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Jim,
Cross Country is possible but consider that conditions at your proposed
landing destination are subject to more volatile changes than airports. My
suggestion for travel in an ultralight on floats would be to trailer your UL in
an
enclosed trailer and unload and explore simply by launching at a boat ramp.
But then, look what John H accomplished years ago in his Firestar.
steve
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| Subject: | Re: Early Birds/Sausage Feast |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
Here is a question for you Mark III pilots. I was flying near some
Sierra foothills yesterday 80 miles north of Reno with about a 5 mph
wind. It was early in the day and nice and still at pattern level
(5100"msl). Went up to 6000 and got thrashed by choppy air. Do not know
where it came from. How much choppy air will a Mark III Classic handle
and where can I attach a big handle to hang on to? Time to celebrate.
Have now made 66 landings.......one of which was a nice smooth
one......it was number 62. It was with full flaps and instead of going
to full stall, I just let it settle short of a full stall which is a no
no in a J-3.
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Morning Gang:
The thread on flying rivers prompted me to pull out one of my favorite
river photos. This one was taken about halfway between Eagle Plains,
YT, and Dawson City, YT, a stretch of 250 miles with no population
(that's people) in between. That's the Blackstone River I am flying
south down. What a beautiful setting. With the weather so beautiful,
hard to believe I barely got through the next mountain pass, I believe
the Tombstone Mountains, and was put down by "no" ceiling a few miles
south.
Flying rivers is fun. Make sure to keep a way out if the fan quits.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Early Birds/Sausage Feast |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| How much choppy air will a Mark III Classic handle
| and where can I attach a big handle to hang on to?
As much as you can.
I hold on to the seat bottom with my left hand, and snug up the seat
belt/shoulder harness.
When it gets "really" uncomfortable, I find a place to land, if I am
in a location where I can.
john h
mkIII (landed in 38 mph wind, steady, Canon City, CO, 2003, in other
than smooth air) (don't want to do that again, anywhere)
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Me and my trusty Firestar are once again back in the air. After my "hard
landing" a year ago its a great feeling to be up and about. I replaced
bent tubing, reinforced other areas, got rid of the sling seat and put in
a boat seat from Walmart (as was suggested on this list) and she's flying
fine. I would like to pass along to others who are building (or
rebuilding) that the felt tip pens used on erasable white boards are great
for using on our planes. We all know that pencils are bad news and
permanent pens are a mess to clean up. All you need is a wet rag and
these clean up great. They can be bought at any business supply store
(Office Max). Hopefully I will never need to use one again. I asked for
some help from the"List" over the rebuild procedure and would like to
thank every for there response.
The (Minnesota) Flying Farmer......................I've noticed there are
more Flying Farmers from other states on this list, that's great!
Dwight Kottke
Original Firestar 377 IVO BRS
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Rivers |
Beautiful shot John,
I'd have to go down and carve it up a bit with some aluminum floats.
steve
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
john s. flannery wrote:
>For you dudes with those lush grassy, green pastures; this is what those of us
in the West face or look down on each day we go upstairs in ultralights or GenAvs,
as Uribe down West Texas way and Dennis up in ABQ can vouch.
>
>These jpgs are immediately off-airport at Truth or Consequences, NM.
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| Subject: | Re: float planes |
Thanks for your input Robert....good info...will check it out. I am 75 years
old and may not get to it, but sure would be a interesting trip..mowed the
runway today and when the wind goes down a bit will get the firestar in the
air ..
j swan
michigan
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: rap@isp.com
> Hi Rick, you are right. How is your project going?
> steve
>
Doing good as soon as I get a fuel regulator in & installed I will be
ready to start the eng. I still need to install the windsheild, doors &
rework the center section to clear the 912s. I have left it on the gear
till I get all these problems worked out so I won't have to work around
the floats. I'll than give it a float test in the pond to see if it sinks
with my fat @#$ in it. Talked to the local Gato office they said I
wouldn't have to have a retractable sign off to fly with the floats on
till I get my sea plane rating.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
Nicht verstehen "Truncated!"
Sorry about hitting jpg key twice.
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: terrain
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
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> john s. flannery wrote:
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>>For you dudes with those lush grassy, green pastures; this is what those
>>of us in the West face or look down on each day we go upstairs in
>>ultralights or GenAvs, as Uribe down West Texas way and Dennis up in ABQ
>>can vouch.
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| Subject: | Re: Twin Engine Firestar 2 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "contrabassoon" <matronics@westerling.com>
Dave,
Great work, and kudos to you for it. I had the same idea for a 503 to F33 modification
- but I have a slightly different idea. Since you have the F33's already
in your possession, perhaps you might be interested in my idea?
Basically, the idea is to have the engines mounted 30" off center and use 28" props
on the F33's using direct drive (no belts). This will admitedly result in
less prop efficiency, but save the cost / liability / and maintenance of the
belts while virtually removing cross-prop interaction since there will be a few
inches between them - even with them mounted in-line!
This is similar to the lazair of many years ago, but in a pusher configuration.
Let me know if you are interested in trying this alternative, or perhaps interested
in taking an offer for those F-33's???
My email is airfields at westerling dot com
Again, kudos on the good work and execution. My opinion is that redundant two strokes
is indeed the way to go and much safer than the 503. I suppose the other
alternative is to find a cricri (Cricket) that someone is selling [Wink]
Fair skies and smooth landings to you sir - Jonathan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=58769#58769
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Rick,
I think it is a great idea to learn the airplane with standard gearlegs.
The added weight and drag of the floats should not be taken lightly.
Steve
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| Subject: | Oshkosh 2006 pictures |
Hi Gang
I took some pictures at Oshkosh AirVenture that I think you'll enjoy.
A couple of the pictures are of John Haucks plane, I also got a chance
to visit with him and as always he was friendly and interesting to talk
to.
The yellow Kolb is Dick Rahill's, he and John showed the audience how
great Kolb's perform.
Bill Vincent
Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Rivers |
We have been sufeited, nay, well-supplied with many great air-pix
brought to us by intrepid Kolbsters who have roamed the air in search
of scenes to titillate those of us hard aground or chained to a
usurious mortgage. Not being well-grounded, and having long go
quitted myself of financial encumbrances, I broke the surly bonds and
went Kolbing.
After the many days of 90F a moderate day presented itself, just in
time for a week of Fall rainstorms, working its way up for
hurricanes. With a weather hiatus, I heave The Great Silver Bird from
its cage and do my usual walk-around, complete with wiggling, shaking
and close eye balling. No critters, no mud daubers. FireFly E003RN
broke into a chattering roar after the requisite five yanks on the
Armstrong Starter System. Sure, I have the Famous-Mark S.-Never-Fail-
Two-Strokes-Or-Fewer-Primer-Pump, waiting to be installed! Well, the
EIS has come alive and most of the numbers look mostly OK, good
enough to at least taxi. Doing Bob's Famous Cockpit Entry I do the
FireFly Bass-Ackwards Flop, being careful not to hit the throttle or
scrape the windshield with my Number 9 EEEEEEs. Throttle back to
1800, long enough to yank up the chock-on-a-rope. Out to the active,
waiting on two or three GAs... and the Citation that smells like a
coal oil lamp with a bad wick.
OK, good to go. Wind 8-10 on calibrated windsock, mostly on the nose.
Ease forward with left hand, little forward stick. Wooo, we're off
way before the second runway marker, making turns for 5300 on the
main shaft. Halfway down the 5600' runway, I'm at 700 and straight
out to leave both the circuit bashers and the many corporate iron
that uses our regional airport to escape the traffic madness at
Dulles and the insane regulations that preclude most prospective
users from the Washington ADIZ, aka The Black Hole.
Pretty cool, but scrunching down the wind just hits my forehead. Hope
the elastic string-thing holds my prescription shades...Mr. IVO hopes
too. Dang, i really have to put in a bit more pitch, EGTs too near
1200. Most of the numbers seem reasonable, so clear of the traffic
area, as well as what might be called "congested," I make for 500',
keeping all four eyes peeled for errant F-15s who might be hungry for
an easy FireFly decal to stick on their mighty steed. [To Homeland
Security: there is no truth to the rumor that it takes downing 10 ULs
to become a Black Hole Ase]
Boy, do we ever need rain! Yards are brown, except where the septic
tank drain fields are lush green. But then we're warned of possible
flash flooding of the many "cricks" and low areas. The all too
quickly vanishing apple and peach orchards are doing well, in spite
of the lack of rain and the rapidly encroaching houses...no known
chemical will hold them back! Circling back around our little town I
see the many parking lots jammed full of buyers, not just
shoppers...and hardly a clunker car to be seen. Either our economy is
in great shape, or the banks own the populace. Two huge (are there
any other?) WalMarts in a town of 22,000!
A pass over a couple loops of the low Shenandoah River shows many
sand and mud bars, few boater or fishers, no friendly waves. Back up
I-81 showed little evidence of near-three dollar gas. Hordes of
semis, coveys of four-heelers darting in/out...all easily besting the
FireFly. Saw no police; probably they were in plain-clothes cars
captured from drug dealers or other miscreants. Good on them.
Being on a short leash, I duck off the interstate and downwind for
the same active, watching for the zealous students doing their
interminable round-and-squat, repeat until PPLed. Back off the mighty
fan to 3500, AS around 40, down the old groove, just like the
playground slide. Usual small drop- and-flop (Paddles, did I catch
no. 2 wire?) and off to the barn.
With my good wife we toasted each other at our friendly Cork Street
Tavern, presenting my chit for a free desert, courtesy of the
management: "Happy (insert number here) Birthday, Bob."
regards,
Bob N.
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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Vary nice pictures,
Thanks for posting them.
In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:42:40 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
jsflan@valornet.com writes:
For you dudes with those lush grassy, green pastures; this is what those of
us in the West face or look down on each day we go upstairs in ultralights
or GenAvs, as Uribe down West Texas way and Dennis up in ABQ can vouch.
These jpgs are immediately off-airport at Truth or Consequences, NM.
Remember this is the rainy season. Seems, the cursed and ubiquitous developers
are
talking about putting a NASCAR track in some of that terrain , which would
impinge on the Truth or Consequences Airport, cut runway length and maybe put
medivac out of business. We are 150 SM from good hospitals.
The choice in what you fly here has to be something that will let you live
when your engine dies. Happened to me with an N-3 Pup (ala Cub) and Mohser
engine...rich/ lean placards were reversed by the Odessa, Texas, builder.
Didn't try to collect, but not really a member of the ubiquitous litigious
umurikun society. Didn't break another bone. So hopefully this Kolb will hold
up
and let me get through another one.
jsf
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