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1. 05:22 AM - Re: Firestar II Fit? (John Jung)
2. 05:44 AM - Re: Oil Pressure (David Lucas)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: Re: Oil Pressure (David Lehman)
4. 06:40 AM - Re: Firestar II Fit? (George Alexander)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: Firestar II Fit? (HShack@AOL.COM)
6. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: Firestar II Fit? (David Lehman)
7. 01:45 PM - q (russ kinne)
8. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Firestar II Fit? (HShack@aol.com)
9. 02:36 PM - Re: q (john s. flannery)
10. 07:32 PM - Re: Firestar II Fit? (Don G)
11. 07:35 PM - Re: Firestar II Fit? (R. Hankins)
12. 08:36 PM - Re: Ohio Ralph (Ralph Hoover)
13. 09:20 PM - Re: Firestar II Fit? (R. Hankins)
14. 09:49 PM - Powers Oregon Fly-in (R. Hankins)
15. 10:27 PM - Re: Powers Oregon Fly-in (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" <jrjungjr@yahoo.com>
R. Hankins wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I agreed to ask "The List" their thoughts. If there are any Firestar II drivers
of similar size out there, please comment.
>
> Thanks in advance
I am of similar size and I have only one problem with headroom in my Firestar II.
I wear a helmet, and the extra height makes it close. Without the helmet, no
problem. Also, if I didn't have the chute mounted in the gap seal, it would
not be as "close" for the helmet.
John Jung
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Pressure |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>
I can remember years back (read decades) that a Missionary Aviation Fellowship
(MAF) pilot named Nate Saint down in South America was pondering the same sort
of question for their light aircraft. As I recall, one day he saw a Bus starting
to drive away with the engine cover removed and a man sitting on the fender
with what turned out to be a fuel line in his hand. He was, in effect, the
seudo carburator. Apparently the 'real' carb. was U/S and with this fuel line
with his thumb over the exit to regulate the flow and spraying directly into
the intake (after air filter removed) he was changing the engine power to suit
the conditions at the time. Ultra basic and no doubt inefficient, but it worked.
>From this experience MAF developed an alternative or back up fuel system for their
aircraft so that if there was a fuel blockage or whatever that caused fuel
starvation you could pull this 'alternative' fuel handle somewhere on the panel
and a fixed rate of fuel was supplied to the engine, possibly at a high cruise
pwr setting ... can't remember exactly, and thus by-passing the normal fuel
system.
So it gave them some 'redundancy' or 'back-up' for all those hours of flying over
inhospitable jungle and mountain terrain enabling them to get to a suitable
airfield in case of fuel system malfunctions.
Don't know what's happened since then. Havent heard of it any more, but it certainly
was an ingenious and simple back up method.
David Lucas.
(The older I get the smarter I was)
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Pressure |
MAF actually got an STC to install this setup on their fuel injected
206s... Same theory as a primer that injects raw fuel into the intake
manifold...
DVD
On 9/8/06, David Lucas <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>
>
> I can remember years back (read decades) that a Missionary Aviation
> Fellowship (MAF) pilot named Nate Saint down in South America was ponderi
ng
> the same sort of question for their light aircraft. As I recall, one day
he
> saw a Bus starting to drive away with the engine cover removed and a man
> sitting on the fender with what turned out to be a fuel line in his hand.
He
> was, in effect, the seudo carburator. Apparently the 'real' carb. was U/
S
> and with this fuel line with his thumb over the exit to regulate the
> flow and spraying directly into the intake (after air filter removed) he
> was changing the engine power to suit the conditions at the time. Ultra
> basic and no doubt inefficient, but it worked.
>
> >From this experience MAF developed an alternative or back up fuel system
> for their aircraft so that if there was a fuel blockage or whatever that
> caused fuel starvation you could pull this 'alternative' fuel handle
> somewhere on the panel and a fixed rate of fuel was supplied to the engin
e,
> possibly at a high cruise pwr setting ... can't remember exactly, and thu
s
> by-passing the normal fuel system.
>
> So it gave them some 'redundancy' or 'back-up' for all those hours of
> flying over inhospitable jungle and mountain terrain enabling them to get
to
> a suitable airfield in case of fuel system malfunctions.
>
> Don't know what's happened since then. Havent heard of it any more, but i
t
> certainly was an ingenious and simple back up method.
>
> David Lucas.
> (The older I get the smarter I was)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=60332#60332
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
Roger:
My stats are: 6'3", 260# and another issue, size 14 shoe.
Headroom in the FS II is not a problem, even wearing a helmet. (Had an original
FS with a solid gap seal where headroom was an issue. Copied a fix that Dennis
Souder had come up with for a friend by putting an inverted 10" pie pan on
the underside of the gap seal to give a little more headroom. Worked great.)
The issue for me in the FSII is leg room. (At 6'1", this may not be as much of
a problem for your friend.) The front seat back rests against the tube that
runs side to side of the cage. This tube is the forward edge of the rear seat,
but more importantly, provides support to keep the cage from buckling in case
of a nose first impact. This layout causes my knees to be very high and restricts
the side-to-side throw of the stick.
So far, my fixes have been to: replace the foam in the seat back with the thinnest
that I could find and to install a piece of 3/8" brake line toward the rear
edge of the windscreen to push the sides out so that I can open my legs to give
more room. This also forces my big feet into an open "V" on the rudder pedals
( -- -/- ) so my toes don't rub the nose cone.
In the attached image (cropped from one taken by Chris Mallory) you can get some
sense of the head room, the bow in the wind screen and the position of my knees.
Since I would not likely ever put anything other than gear in the "back seat",
am looking at possibly moving that tube a few inches aft in a way that will not
violate the integrity of the cage. Would also have to reconfigure the seat
bottom to clear the pullies/cables. Have discussed alternatives with several
knowledgable people. Work in progress.
All said and done, I feel very comfortable with the current setup and it's worth
whatever it takes to fly this FSII.
R. Hankins wrote:
> Hello:
> A friend of mine is thinking about buying a Firestar II. He is 6' 1" and weighs
280 lbs. The plane is out of state and he is worried about fitting into it.
He squeezed himself into my KXP (stock webbing seat) without too much trouble
and had plenty of leg room, but was a little unhappy with the headroom. Is
there any difference between the Firestar II and the original in terms of headroom?
>
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George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
In a message dated 9/8/2006 9:41:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
gtalexander@att.net writes:
Headroom in the FS II is not a problem, even wearing a helmet. (Had an
original FS with a solid gap seal where headroom was an issue. Copied a fix that
Dennis Souder had come up with for a friend by putting an inverted 10" pie pan
on the underside of the gap seal to give a little more headroom. Worked
great.)
I'm 6' @ 270 lb. When I wore a helmet, it would hit the bottom of the metal
gap seal. My solution was to pop rivet in the biggest opaque plastic mixing
bowl I could get from Wal-mart. Worked pretty good, but helmet would still hit
some.
The final solution was to completely remove the bottom & front of the metal
gap seal, extended by 4" & installed the chromoly "bow" (included with kit to
attach full enclosure windshield). Fabricated a new windshield out of .090"
lexan that attaches at the top to the "bow". Formed an aluminum filler to go
between the new windshield & the gap seal. My new windshield is shaped pretty
much like the old "shorty" windshield- except taller. Wind doesn't push my
head back all the time & my head has lots of room.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
Howard...
Would you please send me a picture(s) of that setup...
Thanx...
David
On 9/8/06, HShack@aol.com <HShack@aol.com> wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/8/2006 9:41:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> gtalexander@att.net writes:
>
> Headroom in the FS II is not a problem, even wearing a helmet. (Had an
> original FS with a solid gap seal where headroom was an issue. Copied a
fix
> that Dennis Souder had come up with for a friend by putting an inverted 1
0"
> pie pan on the underside of the gap seal to give a little more headroom.
> Worked great.)
>
>
> I'm 6' @ 270 lb. When I wore a helmet, it would hit the bottom of the
> metal gap seal. My solution was to pop rivet in the biggest opaque plast
ic
> mixing bowl I could get from Wal-mart. Worked pretty good, but helmet wo
uld
> still hit some.
>
> The final solution was to completely remove the bottom & front of the
> metal gap seal, extended by 4" & installed the chromoly "bow" (included w
ith
> kit to attach full enclosure windshield). Fabricated a new windshield ou
t
> of .090" lexan that attaches at the top to the "bow". Formed an aluminum
> filler to go between the new windshield & the gap seal. My new windshiel
d
> is shaped pretty much like the old "shorty" windshield- except taller. W
ind
> doesn't push my head back all the time & my head has lots of room.
>
> Howard Shackleford
> FS II
> SC
>
> *do not archive*
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
In case you missed it -- American Legend Aircraft (TX) is modifying
Cubs to take the Jabiru 120JHP engine . They report saving 1/2 to 1
GPH, better climb & better short-field performance, comoared to the
Cointinentfgal )-200 (100HP)
Obviously they think highly of the Jabiru
Russ Kinne
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
In a message dated 9/8/2006 11:24:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
david@davidlehman.net writes:
Howard...
Would you please send me a picture(s) of that setup...
Thanx...
David
Will send pics in a few days. I don't have camera right now.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
What's the weight difference "comoared" ;-) ? And TBO? Aren't the Jabirus
over $9K?
jsf
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: q
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> In case you missed it -- American Legend Aircraft (TX) is modifying Cubs
> to take the Jabiru 120JHP engine . They report saving 1/2 to 1 GPH,
> better climb & better short-field performance, comoared to the
> Cointinentfgal )-200 (100HP)
> Obviously they think highly of the Jabiru
> Russ Kinne
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
I had a similiar problem with my FireFly. I solved it with a solid alum center
gap seal section with no bottom. I also hinged the top surface midway...or actually
right above the wing attachment pins so it can be easily raised up to get
to these pins. Works very well.
Gained 7 inches of headroom, now I can take off my headset and raise it above my
head and place it on a hook I fashioned in the upper rear of the cockpit. I
can reachup and take off my hat and scratch my head and never touch the top!.
Here is a link to my FireFly site and the "modifications" page. scroll down for
several pics of this mod.
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/modifcations.htm
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Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II Fit? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Thanks to all for the good information. George, the picture was very helpful.
Howard, please send me a copy of your set up also. I will pass the information
on.
Thanks again,
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
jswan FS ll
mich.
Sorry for the delay in responding to your e-mail. Which of the two "elderly gentlemen"
are you? The one with the Mich. (yuck) shirt and camo pants or the better
looking one with the flat brimmed baseball cap and the "smerk on your face"!
Ha, HA!
Ohio Ralph
P.S. Nice plane in the background!
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Don,
Was typing up my thanks while you posted your info. Great picture of some very
useful mods.
Thanks
Do not archive
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Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Powers Oregon Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Well I finally did it. I found a way to fit my camping gear into my KXP and flew
to a fly-in instead of trailering. Spent Saturday and Sunday nights under
the wing in perfect comfort. There were 13 other ultralights (and no one else)
on the field. On Sunday, we all flew into HalfMoon Bar, a remote lodge down
in the wild and scenic section of the Rogue River Canyon. It is only accessible
by white-water raft, jetboat or aircraft. One of our party broke a landing
gear fitting on his Thundergull while landing. Bill, the lodge manager graciously
allowed me to use his acetylene outfit to weld it back up and we all flew
out safely. The KXP climb put all the other planes to shame. It is trips
like these that really show the ability of our little planes. I've attached some
air and ground shots of the lodge. What a great weekend.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Powers Oregon Fly-in |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Very nice, Roger. Really nice. I'm not envious.....uh uh. :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:48 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Powers Oregon Fly-in
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
>
> Well I finally did it. I found a way to fit my camping gear into my KXP
> and flew to a fly-in instead of trailering. Spent Saturday and Sunday
> nights under the wing in perfect comfort. There were 13 other ultralights
> (and no one else) on the field. On Sunday, we all flew into HalfMoon Bar,
> a remote lodge down in the wild and scenic section of the Rogue River
> Canyon. It is only accessible by white-water raft, jetboat or aircraft.
> One of our party broke a landing gear fitting on his Thundergull while
> landing. Bill, the lodge manager graciously allowed me to use his
> acetylene outfit to weld it back up and we all flew out safely. The KXP
> climb put all the other planes to shame. It is trips like these that
> really show the ability of our little planes. I've attached some air and
> ground shots of the lodge. What a great weekend.
>
> --------
> Roger in Oregon
> 1992 KXP 503
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=60524#60524
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/highbar_211.jpg
>
>
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