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1. 06:35 AM - Re: N-number (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:42 AM - N-number (boyd)
3. 06:18 PM - Fw: Re: [ultralightchapter104] F-16 bird strike (Mike Schnabel)
4. 06:39 PM - E-LSA vs. Exp-A/B for student pilots (Thom Riddle)
5. 06:47 PM - Interesting video, and website... (Mike Schnabel)
6. 11:25 PM - Re: N-number(REGESTRATION) (Craig Nelson)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
David,
I suspect the confusion is as follows. The Repairman's Certificate that
the builder of an aircraft registered as an Experimental Amateur-Built
aircraft earns, is for ONLY that airplane, and no class is required for
this. As others have stated the Repairman's Certificate that an E-LSA
owner can get after taking and passing the 16 hour class is good for
any and all E-LSAs that he owns as long as they are in the same type of
aircraft that the class taken was addressing.
do not archive
Thom in Buffalo
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
You can get a packet from EAA for $17.95 that has all the forms you need or
you can call Rainbow Aviation Services at 530-824-0644 and get all the forms
in their packet for $5.00. The RAS packet is LSA friendly and will probably
make it easier.
>>>>>>>>>>
Call your local fsdo office,,,, they sent me out a package for free.
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Re: [ultralightchapter104] F-16 bird strike |
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| Subject: | E-LSA vs. Exp-A/B for student pilots |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
In the recent past there have been threads about the pros and cons of registering
a Kolb you build as an ELSA vs. Experimental Amateur Built. I do not recall
anyone mentioning insurance as a differentiating issue in the registration decision.
If someone has addressed this before, I apologize for bringing it up
again. I just read an article by Bob Mackey, VP of Falcon Insurance about insuring
a STUDENT pilot in E-A/B vs. ELSA aircraft. It is worth a read at the following
link.
http://tinyurl.com/oamwf
Bottom line is that ELSA has the edge in both availability of insurance for student
pilots and premiums if available.
do not archive
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Thom in Buffalo
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=61888#61888
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| Subject: | Interesting video, and website... |
Sorry Gang, the first message did not take.
I was helping figure out a broken URL from another site, when it worked, it was
very cool. And my search led to another site that was even more impressive
for us aviation types... read the messages below for the long/short story.
To keep a Kolb connection, i had to do some work on my Kuntzleman Strobe recently
(i broke a bulb), and in the troubleshooting process the folks at KE inc
were very very helpful! Even sent an extra unit out to help determine my problem.
Very personal, and now my driver unit is on its way back home, hope to install
this weekend. I give them 2 thumbs up for customer service! And the repair
price was practially nothing, when they could have easily told me i needed a
new driver box ($150), but no, just fixed mine. Even got a call from the owner
just to let me know it was OK and on its way. Great company!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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Barry and all,
The original link did work. I saw the video, and it was very impressive. And
did read at another website and learned it was not an F-16B but actually a CT-155
Hawk. But that was a student flying with an instructor (what a training ride!).
Where i learned this is at another cool aviation website...
http://www.patricks aviation. com/
As for the original link, the reason it did not work, there are 3 spaces in the
URL that caused it to fail. Copy and paste to your web browser, backspace out
the 3 blank spaces, and it works fine. They are located between "alwayson"
and the "-", "network." and the "com", "comments." and the "php"
remove the 3 blank spaces in the url once pasted to the browser, and you will
get there. Or go to the other link, the same video is there also.
Great job finding that one Barry, it was impressive!! !
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
beartooth37129 <barryglenn@comcast. net> wrote:
This was on another mail group. Interesting what happens when you
hit birds. You FW guys keep your eyes open.
Barry
http://www.alwayson -network. com/comments. php?id=P14238_ 0_6_0_C
READ THIS -- CAREFULLY -- FIRST; THEN WATCH THE VIDEO
Then watch it again. This is split second decision making!
F-16 engine ingests bird after takeoff @ Tyndall AFB.
It is certainly interesting to see a crash from the cockpit of an
airplane.
There is an instructor pilot in the rear and a student in the front
seat of an F-16.
A "Bird Strike," as seen through the Heads Up Display (HUD).
One can see the bird "flash-by" just prior to impacting the engine.
One can hear the aircraft voice warning system telling them they
have a problem and referring to the "D-6 NL" which means there is no
engine RPM.
They made 2 attempts to relight the jet engine, but evidently there
was too much damage from the bird strike and they had to get out.
These guys were very cool; note the heavy breathing ... they
certainly flew longer than one would expect before ejecting.
Airspeed can
be observed on the HUD's upper left corner. It goes down to the low
120's as they struggle to get the engine going again, but as the
plane noses over and dives to earth it increases to at least 175
just before impact.
It just goes to show how quickly your day can go to pieces - 45
seconds from strike to ejection.
All and all, not bad. The pilots ran the emergency checklist, made
two relight attempts, and picked out a plowed field for impact
before ejecting.
You can follow the audio attached to it and hear the conversation
between the pilot and instructor pilot, and then the tower,
including the pilot saying they were punching out. The tower didn't
seem to completely understand the situation, and missed the
significance of the last transmission. The towers last radio call --
he's talking to an empty aircraft.
The video continues until impact, even after both pilots eject. A
classic "buying the farm" as you can see the plow rows get bigger. A
real nice job from the aircrew by keeping their cool and turning
the aircraft away from populated areas.
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| Subject: | N-number(REGESTRATION) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
Hay all:
I have read a lot lately about decisions to regester or not to regester,
ELSA or Experinental. My two bits: when you fill out form 8050-88 or
8050-88A and form 8050-1 you might consider your name you put in the
aircraft manufacturer box. Rather than your full name you might consider
an initial and last name. Maybe the middle initial and last name? Drop
the middle initial and use first initial and last name? The address is
a postal box. You are the manufacturer, and upon sale the prop is
removed with photo documentation. Pictures of the manufacturers
recommended prop bolts removed and tagged. The manufacturer keeps the
bolts. Picture documentation of the plane without the prop mounted. If
anyone ever fly's the plane without the recommended bolts that the
manufacturer still has someone mush have replaced them without the
recommendation of the manufacturer. In our litigation society if some
one steels your plane or you sell it and something bad happens the
attorneys come right to the manufacturer. I was with a DAR today and he
made this comment, although it's too late for me I thought I would Pass
it along
Uncle craig
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