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1. 01:48 AM - Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available (noel anderson)
2. 05:46 AM - Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available (robert bean)
3. 07:10 AM - Re: Interesting video, and website... (russ kinne)
4. 07:11 AM - Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
5. 07:30 AM - q (russ kinne)
6. 12:46 PM - 1st post (e.bayliss)
7. 02:06 PM - Re: 1st post (John Hauck)
8. 02:11 PM - Re: 1st post (APilot@webtv.net)
9. 03:00 PM - Re: 1st post (John Hauck)
10. 03:10 PM - Re: 1st post (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
11. 03:45 PM - 1st post (Arksey@aol.com)
12. 04:53 PM - Re: 1st post (Robert Laird)
13. 05:22 PM - Re: 1st post (John Hauck)
14. 05:49 PM - Re: 1st post (ElleryWeld@AOL.COM)
15. 11:53 PM - Re: Full stall landings (APilot@webtv.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "noel anderson" <nandrand@xtra.co.nz>
Hi Ken. Thanks for the really great pics. Kind Regards, Noel
----- Original Message -----
From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs on tour, photos available
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Dear Kolbers:
>
> My local flying club, the Greater Thumb Ultralight Flyers, successfully
> concluded our major event of the year yesterday. We call it our Fall Tour
> and we do what for most of us constitutes a significant cross-country
> trip.
> This year we began at Frankenmuth, flew to a cider mill in St Johns that
> has
> a runway where we ate lunch, then on to Clare, to Pinconning, and finally
> back to Frankenmuth. Of course, everyone had to fly from and to their home
> fields as well.
>
> For me the flight was just over 330 miles and constituted a wee bit over 6
> hours of stick-time. We had four Kolbs representing an interesting
> spectrum
> of models, in my opinion. There was a Firefly, a Firestar, my own Mark II,
> and a Mark IIIx.
>
> If you'd like to see some pictures of these Kolbs during the trip, they
> can
> be found here:
> http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/tour/
>
> I must warn you that the only thing I've done to them is some quick
> cropping, but the pictures are still fairly large, as are the file sizes.
> Using cable modem or DSL they shouldn't be too bad. For dial-up, it may be
> more trouble than it's worth. I leave that to you.
>
> There is also a sub-folder containing photos of the non-Kolb airplanes
> that
> participated. Feel free to peruse them as well. Its URL is, of course,
> this:
> http://www.kfackler.com/kolb/tour/other/
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> Rochester MI
>
> P.S. It was four years ago today that I first flew my Mark II. Happy
> Anniversary!
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Ken, big event. Nice variety of "other" too.
BB do not archive
On 17, Sep 2006, at 11:50 PM, <kfackler@ameritech.net> wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Dear Kolbers:
>
> My local flying club, the Greater Thumb Ultralight Flyers,
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -Ken Fackler
> Kolb Mark II / A722KWF
> Rochester MI
>
> P.S. It was four years ago today that I first flew my Mark II. Happy
> Anniversary!
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Interesting video, and website... |
Look at these when you have time -- The F-16 is really a CT-155 Hawk.
Or so they tell me. Impressive anyway, Student & instructor aboard,
you can see the bird flash past. Some training flight!
Got a new secretary -- Marcia DePenguins. Replacing Sacha Payne Diaz.
Sheesh!
http://www.alwayson-network.com/comments.php?id=P14238_%200_6_0_C
http://www.patricksaviation.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvUB654FZyI
On Sep 15, 2006, at 9:46 PM, Mike Schnabel wrote:
> Sorry Gang, the first message did not take.
>
> I was helping figure out a broken URL from another site, when it
> worked, it was very cool. And my search led to another site that
> was even more impressive for us aviation types... read the messages
> below for the long/short story.
>
> To keep a Kolb connection, i had to do some work on my Kuntzleman
> Strobe recently (i broke a bulb), and in the troubleshooting
> process the folks at KE inc were very very helpful! Even sent an
> extra unit out to help determine my problem. Very personal, and now
> my driver unit is on its way back home, hope to install this
> weekend. I give them 2 thumbs up for customer service! And the
> repair price was practially nothing, when they could have easily
> told me i needed a new driver box ($150), but no, just fixed mine.
> Even got a call from the owner just to let me know it was OK and on
> its way. Great company!
>
> Mike S
> Manchester TN
> Firestar 2 503
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Barry and all,
>
> The original link did work. I saw the video, and it was very
> impressive. And did read at another website and learned it was not
> an F-16B but actually a CT-155 Hawk. But that was a student flying
> with an instructor (what a training ride!). Where i learned this is
> at another cool aviation website...
>
> http://www.patricks aviation. com/
>
> As for the original link, the reason it did not work, there are 3
> spaces in the URL that caused it to fail. Copy and paste to your
> web browser, backspace out the 3 blank spaces, and it works fine.
> They are located between "alwayson" and the "-", "network." and the
> "com", "comments." and the "php"
>
> remove the 3 blank spaces in the url once pasted to the browser,
> and you will get there. Or go to the other link, the same video is
> there also.
>
> Great job finding that one Barry, it was impressive!! !
>
> Mike S
> Manchester TN
> Firestar 2 503
>
>
> beartooth37129 <barryglenn@comcast. net> wrote:
> This was on another mail group. Interesting what happens when you
> hit birds. You FW guys keep your eyes open.
>
> Barry
>
> http://www.alwayson -network. com/comments. php?id=P14238_ 0_6_0_C
>
>
> READ THIS -- CAREFULLY -- FIRST; THEN WATCH THE VIDEO
> Then watch it again. This is split second decision making!
> F-16 engine ingests bird after takeoff @ Tyndall AFB.
>
> It is certainly interesting to see a crash from the cockpit of an
> airplane.
> There is an instructor pilot in the rear and a student in the front
> seat of an F-16.
>
> A "Bird Strike," as seen through the Heads Up Display (HUD).
> One can see the bird "flash-by" just prior to impacting the engine.
> One can hear the aircraft voice warning system telling them they
> have a problem and referring to the "D-6 NL" which means there is no
> engine RPM.
> They made 2 attempts to relight the jet engine, but evidently there
> was too much damage from the bird strike and they had to get out.
>
> These guys were very cool; note the heavy breathing ... they
> certainly flew longer than one would expect before ejecting.
> Airspeed can
> be observed on the HUD's upper left corner. It goes down to the low
> 120's as they struggle to get the engine going again, but as the
> plane noses over and dives to earth it increases to at least 175
> just before impact.
>
> It just goes to show how quickly your day can go to pieces - 45
> seconds from strike to ejection.
>
> All and all, not bad. The pilots ran the emergency checklist, made
> two relight attempts, and picked out a plowed field for impact
> before ejecting.
>
> You can follow the audio attached to it and hear the conversation
> between the pilot and instructor pilot, and then the tower,
> including the pilot saying they were punching out. The tower didn't
> seem to completely understand the situation, and missed the
> significance of the last transmission. The towers last radio call --
> he's talking to an empty aircraft.
>
> The video continues until impact, even after both pilots eject. A
> classic "buying the farm" as you can see the plow rows get bigger. A
> real nice job from the aircrew by keeping their cool and turning
> the aircraft away from populated areas.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolbs on tour, photos available |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
Ken
Thanks for sharing those photos. One of these years I will join you on that
flight. Please keep posting the up coming flights.
Thanks again.
I'm busy trying to get my trailer finished enough to haul my plane to the
Kolb Homecoming. I'm planning to leave for the Homecoming on Thursday.
Do not archive
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 11:50 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolbs on tour, photos available
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
>
> Dear Kolbers:
>
> My local flying club, the Greater Thumb Ultralight Flyers, successfully
> concluded our major event of the year yesterday. We call it our Fall Tour
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
My most humble apologies to the List!
My nearly-non-existant confuser skills made me send out a personal
message.
I'll TRY not to do it again
Russ Kinne
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Hello all here
I am Eddie Bayliss from Liverpool in the UK
I have been lurking on this list for two years,ever since I
bought my damaged mk 111 .I have enjoyed reading about and learning from
the people here who seem to know what they are talking about. Up
untill now I haven't had anything to post but as from last saturday
evening when I finally got a flight in my own kolb I am hoping to have
something to contribute to this list in the future. My aircraft was
repaired , and passed its pfa inspections in september of last year but
it took from then untill july of this year for all the paperwork to be
processed and a permit to check fly issued ( Pat ladd and mike Moulai
will know about how slow our system in the uk can be, especially if the
person who started the repairs (not me ) did not follow the accepted
paperwork trail ) eventually with the check flight passed I have found a
local pilot ( he used to demo them for the importer in the early
nineties) who can get me flying the kolb , So now not only have I got a
kolb but soon will be able to fly it solo and hopefully make some
useful contributions to the photo and message postings here
Please be prepared for lots of stupid questions from a new kolb pilot
Eddie
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Hi Eddie:
Welcome to the Kolb List.
Hope you get up and flying soonest.
john h
mkIII
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
What is your CG location (25, 28, 30 or higher)? My Kolb was not very
much fun to fly at 33% location, but it is a dream to fly at the 28%
location. You may notice that it drops in rather suddenly as you full
stall it just over the runway. Some have recommended that newer pilots
do wheel landing at first, to help keep the landing gear from bending.
Vic (Sacramento, California)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| You may notice that it drops in rather suddenly as you full
| stall it just over the runway. Some have recommended that newer
pilots
| do wheel landing at first, to help keep the landing gear from
bending.
| Vic (Sacramento, California)
|
Vic:
Full stall landings do not bend main gear legs.
It is excessive height above the ground when the stall occurs that
bends gear legs.
Doesn't matter what kind of fixed wing we are flying, if we stall them
above the ground, they will fall out of the sky.
Nothing different about a Kolb.
As far as I know........
john h
mkIII (powerless, but on order)
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Eddie
Welcome. I admire your persistence in getting through the regulatory
hoops. Good luck. I'm sure you will enjoy that Kolb.
Also there is only one stupid question..... The one you think is stupid
and don't ask. That's what we are here for.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: e.bayliss
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 7:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 1st post
Hello all here
I am Eddie Bayliss from Liverpool in the UK
I have been lurking on this list for two years,ever since I
bought my damaged mk 111 .I have enjoyed reading about and learning from
the people here who seem to know what they are talking about. Up
untill now I haven't had anything to post but as from last saturday
evening when I finally got a flight in my own kolb I am hoping to have
something to contribute to this list in the future. My aircraft was
repaired , and passed its pfa inspections in september of last year but
it took from then untill july of this year for all the paperwork to be
processed and a permit to check fly issued ( Pat ladd and mike Moulai
will know about how slow our system in the uk can be, especially if the
person who started the repairs (not me ) did not follow the accepted
paperwork trail ) eventually with the check flight passed I have found a
local pilot ( he used to demo them for the importer in the early
nineties) who can get me flying the kolb , So now not only have I got a
kolb but soon will be able to fly it solo and hopefully make some
useful contributions to the photo and message postings here
Please be prepared for lots of stupid questions from a new kolb pilot
Eddie
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Hi Eddie,
welcome...and good for you getting the Kolb and you ready to fly. I
believe there is people on the list that can and will answer most questions a
person might have. Keep us posted on your progress.
jim Swan Firestar ll mich.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
John --
Somehow I missed why you sold you 912S, and what you're getting to
replace it... a 914 maybe? :-)
-- Robert
On 9/18/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> john h
> mkIII (powerless, but on order)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
| replace it... a 914 maybe? :-)
|
| -- Robert
Robert:
Going with another 912ULS.
Sold the old engine to buy a new engine.
john h
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Congrats Eddie and Great days on your wings
Ellery in a
Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
I have yet to perform a full stall landing without the tail wheel
hitting first. I have bent the tail wheel up a couple inches, added
larger diameter tires, use full flaps (which changes the relative
decalage) and am still not able to perform a full stall without the
tailwheel hitting first. That, of course,will cause the main wheels to
drop on. This type of landing works good on Cubs, T-crafts, Citabrias,
C-120s and C-140s, Luscombes and Kitfoxs. That is all of the planes in
which I have experience. There must be something wrong with my Mk III.
Of course, it lands nicely on the mains and also if you let it settle
just before the full stall. Now that I understand how my plane lands,
it is no longer an issue for me, but I thought maybe I might save
someone a bent gear leg.
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