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1. 03:06 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (pat ladd)
2. 06:42 AM - Re: Full stall landings (Ralph Hoover)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME (George Alexander)
4. 06:54 AM - Re: 1st post (Ralph Hoover)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Full stall landings (john s. flannery)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME (Ralph Hoover)
7. 08:26 AM - ohio Ralph (Arksey@aol.com)
8. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
9. 08:49 AM - Re: Ohio Ralph (Ralph Hoover)
10. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (Michael Sharp)
11. 09:10 AM - Homecoming! (info)
12. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois (Bob Noyer)
13. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (pat ladd)
14. 10:38 AM - Re: Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME (pat ladd)
15. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (e.bayliss)
16. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (e.bayliss)
17. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: 1st post (pat ladd)
18. 12:51 PM - Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME (Ralph Hoover)
19. 01:23 PM - Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois (Ralph Hoover)
20. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois (russ kinne)
21. 04:22 PM - EIS LPS-01 SENDER (Rick Pearce)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
I thought the Brits were into pounds, where most Europeans were into
Euros.:-)) >>
Hi,
you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and
avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.
Re the Canucks. We get `South` on TV about a Mountie working in the States.
Hilarious!
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Ah yes, Brother Pike. But once I was one of those: "Since he was acting foolishly"
persons. And still have a bout here and there. And had the loving individuals
not cared enough for that lost fool, I would not be the wonderful (bow down,
bow down) individual, full of grace, overwhelmed by love and kindness as I
am today. I would probably be the lecherous fool that mugged you family in the
ally near the downtown bar for some drug money!
And some of those wonderful individuals are at the Kolb Factory. Why not make a
trek out there and bless them by your presence. You will still be back by Sunday
Service and will be filled with joy!
So ends a prelude to Sunday Service, country style here in Ohio, by one lowely
servant of the one that paid the price for this Ralph.
I'll tell ya, them boys at Kolb were working up a frenzy for all you Kolbers to
vist them and suck out all their great knowledge and see one of the purdiest
Mark III I have ever laid eyes on. Get in your Kolbs, in your cars, on your motorcycles
and busses and campers and go visit them right near Hazard Kentucky...Maybe
bo and luke and perhaps Daisy will be there.
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
Ohio Ralph:
For shame. Degrading Old Frothingslosh like that. Not a mere BEER, but "The Pale,
Stale Ale with the foam on the bottom." Denny R could probly find a can.
Possum could use it as a hood ornament (legitimizing Kolb reference). For visual
enlightenment, go to:
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbplanes/frothingslosh.jpg and for those who are really trying to console themselves for not being at the TNK Reunion, (2nd legitimizing Kolb reference) go read a little background at: http://www.rustycans.com/oldfroth.html
Ralph Hoover wrote:
> Bob N.
>
> "pronounce it after gargling a six pack". I trust Old Frothingslosh, the beer
with the foam in the bottom! Still have a can around somewhere.
>
> Ohio Ralph
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George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Pat...."Re the Canucks. We get `South` on TV about a Mountie working in the States.
Hilarious!"
Not really Pat, they are stopping cars all over the country in their uniforms to
test the waters. You see, Bush said "While I am in office, there will be no
U.N. or Foreign nations serving to enforce laws in America." But soon he will
be out and Oh, look out what takes place from then on. See Pat, here in Ohio,
Police have to pull you over in Police cars, not unmarked (natzi mindset) vehicles.
Now in Indiana...that's different. If they can just mellow us down here
in Ohio, the Nation will be ready for U.N troops to police our streets, since
all of our troops are protecting and defending in every country but ours....While
them *&^*$ French look the other way and sell arms to the enemy. (not that
we didn't also, as well as train some of them).
Some of them are airplanes equipped with guns! (that's to cover the winners that
say that this is a "airplane site". More Kolb power to the people. If more people
flew Kolbs, there would be less violence. I suggest a Kolb in every driveway
and a chicken in every pot!
Put his Ohio foot into in again Ralph!
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
Not part of the debate, but just chatted with Travis who is trying to help
me to rectify an A&Ps foul-up and get the red Kolb in the air again in spite
of the visitor load. Still wirechasing to do, temperatures to rectify and
parts to buy from other sources. Travis told me where to find them.
Just wanted to let others who don't know that the New Kolb factory folks are
very helpful and always uplifting and positive. And Travis does excellent
translations from my dummy descriptions to specifics of what I actually
need. Treat him gently while you're back there. We need him.
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full stall landings
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
> <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
> Ah yes, Brother Pike. But once I was one of those: "Since he was acting
> foolishly" persons. And still have a bout here and there. And had the
> loving individuals not cared enough for that lost fool, I would not be the
> wonderful (bow down, bow down) individual, full of grace, overwhelmed by
> love and kindness as I am today. I would probably be the lecherous fool
> that mugged you family in the ally near the downtown bar for some drug
> money!
>
> And some of those wonderful individuals are at the Kolb Factory. Why not
> make a trek out there and bless them by your presence. You will still be
> back by Sunday Service and will be filled with joy!
>
> So ends a prelude to Sunday Service, country style here in Ohio, by one
> lowely servant of the one that paid the price for this Ralph.
>
> I'll tell ya, them boys at Kolb were working up a frenzy for all you
> Kolbers to vist them and suck out all their great knowledge and see one of
> the purdiest Mark III I have ever laid eyes on. Get in your Kolbs, in your
> cars, on your motorcycles and busses and campers and go visit them right
> near Hazard Kentucky...Maybe bo and luke and perhaps Daisy will be there.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62987#62987
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Well George, I am an old "hand" at the Frothingslosh thing. I used to call on the
beverage industry. I worked for a supplier of filling equipment components.
Pittsburgh Brewing in PA. and Scheingling (misspell, I know), in Cincinnati,
Ohio. They were without a doubt the most enjoyable bunch of people at that time
I had ever met. Both down to earth companies, although so was the Bud. boys
and many others. These two breweries were just basic real down to earth people
(not that some would not be heavenly in their time).
Pittsburgh Brewing had a special program right around the Christmas Holidays and
I used to load up cases of the Old Frothingslosh and the memorabilia, such
as calendars, key chains, posters and others. These I would give out to some of
my "Pop' customers, Barqs, Beverage Management, Pepsi and others. Theses guys
would go nuts to get this stuff. It always got me in, got me orders and made
a pretty tough job a little easier. I owe that lady a big salute. Sorry she passed.
Most memorable was the ticker tape parade down the back ally with people
throwing paper, cans etc down at her as she road on the (ready Pat?) bonnet
of a Triumph TR-3, in a bathing suit. What a memory.
Now to make it relating to airplanes, Pat sent me information about a beer that
mocks the Germans of WW-II fame and uses air planes and cute little quips about
the war flying of the German pilots. Pat, would you care to elaborate?
Ralph, still sipping a bit of gentle beer here in Ohio.
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Thanks for the report and pictures Ralph...Why did you not stay for the home
comming?
jswan firestar ll mi.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
> Hi,
> you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and
> avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.
>
> Pat
Ok, ok, I'll be the one to ask. What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how
do you cook it?
AzDave
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Jay, Your welcome.
I had prior commitments back here for both Friday and Saturday. I was under the
impression when I left with a close friend on Wednesday that we would end up
staying for Thursday also. As it was, we arrived shortly after noon and had the
blessing of both Denny and Travis for the next four hours, seeing everything.
I had no expectation that they would give us that much one on one. But every
time we would start to give our "good-by's" Denny would show us something else
or we would get on to another topic of a modification like on the Mark III
where they moved the "flaps" handle up higher between the seats to allow better
access. And then they would show us the landing lights built into the nose of
the Mark - III or the cantilevered alerons / flaps and the smoothness. Or how
they took the side by side seat bucket package and turned it inside out to make
the smooth side up. Or the new gap seal for the firestar.
At first, I felt their asking price was way too high for a sheet of plastic. But
as they explained, the Aluminum face (leading edge), the clear or smoked lexan
and the springs, the velcro and the bracing, I discovered how reasonable it
really was. Or the cloth type with zippers.
They covered so much without a crowd there with the two of us that we did everything
in just four hours. We left about 4:30 P.M., stopped to get a bite and drove
(yuck) back home. I arrived at my place at 9:45 P.M.
I would really like to meet the individuals that I communicate with on this site
and see their handy work. When I was part of the Harley world, I never felt
that any other interest could be so personalized. When I came to the Kolb world,
I had never known how personalized things can become and still fly. I will
still get to at least one of these, Good Lord willing, but then hoopefully flying
into the fly-in!
Ohio Ralph
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I hear it's good with a lemon wine sauce with potabello mushrooms and a good Merlot...
Of course asking the brits about cooking is well... i dunno...
Just teasing Pat... just teasing!!!
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Mike
KCMO
Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> Hi,
> you are quite right, but we are hanging on to pounds, both financial and
> avoirdupois for as long as possible. I am afraid it is a losing battle.
>
> Pat
Ok, ok, I'll be the one to ask. What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how
do you cook it?
AzDave
>
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Steve Green just took off from Millertime airport, here in Ohio, & will
be there in a few hours!
We'll be driving down Friday & will see ya'll in the late afternoon,
Thanks,
Jim & Dondi Miller
Aircraft Technical Support, Inc.
Poly-Fiber, Ceconite & Randolph Distributors
(Toll Free) (877) 877-3334
Web Site: www.poly-fiber.com
E-mail: info@aircrafttechsupport.com
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| Subject: | Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois |
In England you don't "cook" anything, but in the case of
"avoirdupois" you must resort to a version of kidney-cooking, wherein
you boil the pee outa it.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
What the hell is an "avoirdupois" and how do you cook it?>>
Hi,
call it `mass` and with a bit of garlic I should think.
Just one of the words, now almost unused except by old farts like me, which
we pinched from another language. French plus a little Latin and Greek and
German plus anything else useful, `khaki` and `bungalow` from India for
example, mix well and you have the language with the richest choice of words
in the world. Pity about the American version.
The French of course adopt some of our words in exchange, `le
pullover`...`le weekend` etc., a fair exchange for a word like `carburettor`
I reckon.
Off to la belle France on Saturday, driving from the northwest corner to the
southeast corner and then over the mountains into Spain so no more `bon
mots` from me for about three weeks. Unless `turrurists` start to blow up
boats as well as planes in which case you will read about it in the
newspapers.
You will find the foreign news on the back page.
Cheers everybody
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Pat sent me information about a beer that mocks the Germans of WW-II fame
and uses air planes and cute little quips about the war flying of the German
pilots. Pat, would you care to elaborate?>>
Hi Ralph,
seeing that you ask.
Messrs Shepherd Neame is a well respected family owned brewery in the County
of Kent. For the anniversary of the Battle of Britain they produced a
special `Spitfire Ale` and ran an advertising campaign under the banner `The
Bottle of Britain`
Some of the slogans I will describe made it into print and some did not.
`Spitfire Ale. Downed all over Kent. Just like the Luftwaffe.
Spitfire Ale. No Fokker comes close
Goering.....goering....gone. Written across three glasses of beer. One
full, one half empty, one empty
How to make a sauerkraut. Mention the war.
A row of Royal Air Force medals plus a bottle opener. `Not for Messrs
Schmidt`
A bottle top bouncing across the poster. A reference to the `bouncing bomb`
with which we took out the Mohne and Eder dams.
The campaign produced angry protests from the Germans. Great!
Separately there was an `anti German` TV advert. The Germans are well known
throughout Europe for their habit of getting up very early when on holiday,
and earmarking all the hotel sunbathing chairs around the swimming pool by
putting their towels on them. This is not cricket and infuriates us. The
advert showed an English holiday maker throwing a rolled up towel, marked
with a Union Jack, from his hotel room window. It bounced in slow motion all
across the swimming pool, again imitating the `bouncing bomb` and unrolled
on a sunbed. The whole thing was accompanied by `The Dambusters March `
from the excellent film of that name.
The Germans were not amused. Again!. Oh Dear! What a shame.
Well. You did ask.
Cheers
Pat
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "e.bayliss" <e.bayliss@blueyonder.co.uk>
Pat
you are correct
just did the conversion thing and copied it
Eddie
From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1st post
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>
> because we don't want to have to deal with one pound or a bunch of
> ounces!>>
>
> Hi Ralph,
> neither do we. I suspect that Eddie just wrote down the weights straight
> from a conversion formula. The maximum weight is laid down by the
authority
> which approves the type of plane. If your plane weighs more than that
> unscrew something and hide it and weigh the plane again.
>
> True the approved weight is laid down in Kilos but this is a price we
gladly
> pay for the undoubted advantage of belonging to the European Union. This
> entitles anyone from Rumania, Poland, Croatia, France, Germany, Belgium or
> almost anywhere else you care to mention, the right to come and live in
> England. You only have the Mexicans!
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "e.bayliss" <e.bayliss@blueyonder.co.uk>
Hi Ralph
I can take large amounts of ragging ( you have to if youre a Scouser )
the pus side of taking a ragging will hope fully be learning more about the
maintenance and flying of my Kolb A fair bargain by my reckoning
Eddie
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From: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@columbus.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 1st post
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
<flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
> Eddie in Liverpool,
>
> Let me just tell you from the American get go, we don't do no micrometer
here in America. Everything we do comes out in 1/4", 1/8" 1/2" or teh full
inch.
>
> I wanna, when I get some money, come over there and beat-up your
inspector cause he has to be wrong.
>
> "forward cg limit is 325mm (12.795 inch) and the reaward limit is 570mm (
> 22.44090 inch)at max of 390kg (859.794 lbs) and min of 200 kg (440.920
lbs)"
>
> See, eddie, we would only have that dimension 12.795 at 12.750 or
7....whetre is my dag nab calculator, slide rule, demension scale thing....?
>
>
> Oh, never mind Eddie, he messed up on the weightt thing also, see we don't
weigh things at 440.920 here in America unless it was going on the space
shuddle and each gram cost a million dollars (38000.357.6 pounds).
>
> The actual weight of the plane would be max 860 pounds and the minium
would be 440 pounds, because we don't want to have to deal with one pound or
a bunch of ounces!
>
> Welcome to the torture box, brother flier. I am so glad to hear your
getting to fly after reading poor Pats escapades. Hope you can take the
ragging this site has to offer! Now I am going out and have a stout!
>
> Ohio Ralph looking to get 50 push-ups from John H!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=62600#62600
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
( Mountie) ..stopping cars all over the country in their uniforms to test
the waters.>>
Hi Ralph,
nothing so heavy in this programme. It really pokes gentle fun at the
Canadians.
I dont think that I had better reply to rest of your post on the list or I
shall get shot down. If you want to go on with it wait until I return from
France in October and we can have a chat off line.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Pat, way to funny. I enjoyed that very much, again.
So, what are you doing up in the middle of the night?
Have things settled at your house: Mother-in -law, government buro-krouts and stuff
like that?
I'l bet you would love to be at the Kolb Fly-in. Did you read my piece on getting
to the factory early? They are really super and quite inovative. You will never
meet a more caring bunch(Band) of Brothers outside of foxholes and pubs anywhere
else.
Ohio Ralph sopping a fine Old Milwaukee. NEVER drinkg a Milwaukee's Best. There
down stream of the Old Milwaukee beer plant.
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| Subject: | Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Bob N. , I beg to differ. If you acquire "avoirdupois" when purchased from the
French as "aveir de peis" it is quite a delicate endeavor, whilst being more than
filling because of its expansive qualities, just a tad bit.
Considering it's mass and volume it can be a bit to cook properly. But between
us that cook such supple things, it is no different than say the British "long".
It's all about the degree of proportion. And any good cook knows that a savory
sauce does the same for such things as "avoirdupois", as it does to, say
a 'grahmcracker". It has to do with portion control, physical size and bulk of
mass. Always keep in mind that old rule that states that no two things can occupy
the same space at the same time. if you remember that then, while including
a proper seasoning and sauce, it is quite a delicate balance of flavor and
can please even the most "massive " of pallets while being equally quite the
"delicacy".
Ralph, cookin on a cool stove in a hot environment here in Ohio!
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| Subject: | Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois |
Bro Bob --
Know how to make Holy Water? -- you boil the hell out of it!
Do not archive
On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Bob Noyer wrote:
> In England you don't "cook" anything, but in the case of
> "avoirdupois" you must resort to a version of kidney-cooking,
> wherein you boil the pee outa it.
>
> regards,
> Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
>
> pee ess Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | EIS LPS-01 SENDER |
I have a 912ULS I'm having trouble with the LPS-01 sender as aux 1
for gas pressure. The EIS manual says to enter the scaling factors for
the sender. I did not recieve any thing when I bought the sender from
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