---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/23/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:58 AM - Re: Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois (pat ladd) 2. 03:48 AM - Re: Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME (noel anderson) 3. 02:40 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Ralph Hoover) 4. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: New Member Panel Question (Bob Noyer) 5. 03:42 PM - Re: Re: New Member Panel Question (robert bean) 6. 04:14 PM - Re: Full stall landings (Ralph Hoover) 7. 04:42 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Ralph Hoover) 8. 05:07 PM - Headset on E-bay (Ralph Hoover) 9. 05:54 PM - 36 KOLBs (Ralph Hoover) 10. 07:43 PM - New Member Panel Question (possums) 11. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: New Member Panel Question (possums) 12. 08:57 PM - Re: 36 KOLBs (possums) 13. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: New Member Panel Question (robert bean) 14. 10:37 PM - Re: Tail wire brace size (possums) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:35 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1st post aka avoirdupois --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" There was sol;ittle avoirdupois that all the letters flew away -->> Hi Russ, sorry about that. I dont know what happened but I lost a couple of posts at that time. Cheers Pat do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:58 AM PST US From: "noel anderson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME --> Kolb-List message posted by: "noel anderson" Hi gang. No sence of humour the Hun, not like us folk from the Misty Iles!!! My best regards to ALL, keep smiling . Noel ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat ladd" Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 5:37 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full stall landings aka UNSRIBE ME > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "pat ladd" > > Pat sent me information about a beer that mocks the Germans of WW-II fame > and uses air planes and cute little quips about the war flying of the > German pilots. Pat, would you care to elaborate?>> > > Hi Ralph, > seeing that you ask. > > Messrs Shepherd Neame is a well respected family owned brewery in the > County of Kent. For the anniversary of the Battle of Britain they > produced a special `Spitfire Ale` and ran an advertising campaign under > the banner `The Bottle of Britain` > > Some of the slogans I will describe made it into print and some did not. > > `Spitfire Ale. Downed all over Kent. Just like the Luftwaffe. > > Spitfire Ale. No Fokker comes close > > Goering.....goering....gone. Written across three glasses of beer. One > full, one half empty, one empty > > How to make a sauerkraut. Mention the war. > > A row of Royal Air Force medals plus a bottle opener. `Not for Messrs > Schmidt` > > A bottle top bouncing across the poster. A reference to the `bouncing > bomb` with which we took out the Mohne and Eder dams. > > The campaign produced angry protests from the Germans. Great! > > Separately there was an `anti German` TV advert. The Germans are well > known throughout Europe for their habit of getting up very early when on > holiday, and earmarking all the hotel sunbathing chairs around the > swimming pool by putting their towels on them. This is not cricket and > infuriates us. The advert showed an English holiday maker throwing a > rolled up towel, marked with a Union Jack, from his hotel room window. It > bounced in slow motion all across the swimming pool, again imitating the > `bouncing bomb` and unrolled on a sunbed. The whole thing was accompanied > by `The Dambusters March ` from the excellent film of that name. > > The Germans were not amused. Again!. Oh Dear! What a shame. > > > Well. You did ask. > > Cheers > > Pat > > do not archive > > > -- > > > -- > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Mike Schnabel For color coordination of gauges to panel you receive a 10 out of a posible 10. For number of instruments, a 9 out of 10. "ulfiler", and Bill Vincent beat you by one instrument. They also have more switches, lights and stuff. Always a great thing to show potential pilot. (As an old Harley guy, chrome spoke for us. It didn't matter if it ran or not. When people looked at it they knew you was the man. HA Ha!) Stuff is good, therefore more stuff is better. For location, location, location; you receive a 9 out of a 10 only because your center gauge (ASI) is not perfectly centered in the vertical. I will have to deduct a point also for that structural bolt holding your windscreen post mount. I'll give that point back if you paint it white or black. Now if you also located that ASI in that spot with future intent of installing a bubble indicator, then I will add an additional point AND give you your removed point allowing a 11 to a posibel 10 point. As the "self appointed Instrument panel /gauge cluster judge, I am allowed to do that. THerefore, all in all, you have a better than perfect score. Keep up the good work. And remember you other guys: : "Sometimes it's not about the flying. It's also about looking good for the hanger monkeys. Eye candy"! And, I also like the heel brakes. That'l let one turn on a dime, I'll bet. Judge not, least you be judged, here in Ohio, or anywhere for that matter, Ralph! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63451#63451 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:53 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look around and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy reading and trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks and pseudo-IFR round cutouts? I don't doubt that someone will proudly show us an ALL GLASS COCKPIT soon! Odd that many pooh-pooh GA, but go right ahead and actually install as many, and in some instances, more clocks/holes than many GA planes. With a little training you can do IFR with Needle. Ball, and Airspeed. Let the Thread Begin. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:57 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question I'm with you BN. No row of circuit breakers for me, all inline automotive fuses behind the panel. I don't expect them to pop and haven't been disappointed. -Besides, resetting a circuit breaker is just kidding yourself; something is wrong. Better fix it now. Have to admit though, watching Thom Riddle's fancy multicolored moving map gizmo last sunday was fascinating. I remember my old aironicky had about 4 gages in front and a fine view. My neighbor had an ifr citabria with a panel so tall you couldn't see out. I told him the first thing I would do is take a hacksaw and cut the durn thing down to size! Now in his old age he's flying a single place flightstar. Still has more gages than I do. BB do not archive On 23, Sep 2006, at 6:11 PM, Bob Noyer wrote: > Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look around > and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy reading and > trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks and pseudo-IFR > round cutouts? I don't doubt that someone will proudly show us an ALL > GLASS COCKPIT soon! Odd that many pooh-pooh GA, but go right ahead and > actually install as many, and in some instances, more clocks/holes > than many GA planes. With a little training you can do IFR with > Needle. Ball, and Airspeed. > > Let the Thread Begin. > > regards, > Bob N. - -FireFly 070 Old Kolb > http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full stall landings From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" jsflan(at)valornet.com said "but just chatted with Travis who is trying to help me to rectify an A&Ps foul-up and get the red Kolb in the air again in spite of the visitor load." Sorry about your problems. I know the feeling, believe me. And Travis is one seemingly super human. I just met him the other day and I saw this, well for lack of a better description: "appendage" coming from his right ear and a large black circle around his mouth. Not desiring to stare, I had to ask Dennis. He said as a child, this began growing and hasen't stopped. It appears that he is able to communicate with anyone that calls the Kolb factory while walking around the plant! I was amazed. Not only that, but he can apparently focus his attention to that person on the phone. I would ask a question and he would answer, but not me. I looked around and nobody else was around. Amazing. If anyone could help you while Kolb is knee high in Kolbers and wanna-be's, its him. Denny says that if someone calls and it rings more than one time "Travis is on the phone with another customer!" What a man. I hope you resolve your problem with their help. And yes, they know all the real non discript words we use to describe real air plane parts! Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63469#63469 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:14 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" B.B. said:"My neighbor had an ifr citabria with a panel so tall you couldn't see out. I told him the first thing I would do is take a hacksaw and cut the durn thing down to size! Now in his old age he's flying a single place flightstar. " See, that's the problem with you old time pilots, get the weight down and remove the obstructions. Now what kind of advise is that? Any real pilot knows that 707, 727, 737, 747, (whew) 757, 767, 777 and the new, as yet announced 787, all have itsi-bitsi windows to look out of. The major aircraft manufacturers have studied the problem and have discovered that if you can get them to rely on instruments rather than seat of the pants and visual's like what out the window, you can improve the get from here to there procedures and skip the barnstorming. THe only reason that large commercial airplanes have windows at all is to provide the pilot with reference to day and night. And the only reason for that is so when the pilot gets on the mike to greet the passengers, they know to say: "Good morning, Ladies and Gentlemen, and welcome to ....." and replace the time reference with afternoon or evening. I was talking with one of the chief engineers at Lockheed-Martin just the other day about this issue. He stated to me, quite emphatically that they were working on a light bulb system and then they could remove all the windows up front! Technology today has advanced to the point that a small hole in the nose of the plane, a small digital camera and a 14" flat screen mounted on the center of the instrument panel can show you "everything" that's out front worth seeing. Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and bobs your uncle! We need to forge forward outa the dark ages gentlemen and into the new technical age of information, information, information (marketing people, who know, suggest if you want to get them to remember it, you repeat it three times). Ah yes, improving the fun of flying, while removing the "danger" factor. Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63474#63474 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:40 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Headset on E-bay From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" E-bay has a DRE-4000 headset.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DRE-Communications-4000-Pilot-Aviation-Headset-Like-New_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26440QQihZ001QQitemZ110034392067QQrdZ1#ebayphotohosting I have a DRE 2000 and i think its great. Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63479#63479 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 36 KOLBs From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" I was looking at the Barnstormers site a while ago and discovered 36 Kolbs for sale. Many names I have seen posted on here. Its really sad to see. They range from busted through unfinished through many-many happy hours of flying. Not a type is missing from Ultras through Kolbra's. I think even every motor ever tried has been on one or another on the lsit. Sad to see something like this. As one door closes, another one opens. I hope all that are selling are still staying in flying in some form. Just stay away from them gyro XXXXX things. Scarry! Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=63487#63487 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:18 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Kolb-List: New Member Panel Question At 06:11 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote: >Question for all you hps: Do you have any time to actually look >around and see the world unfolding beneath you, or are you busy >reading and trying to make sense of all those, gages, dials, clocks >and pseudo-IFR round cutouts? OK .. I'll be your Huckleberry. Just got a new "wide angle lens" today. Test it out in the next few days. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:52 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question At 07:41 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" >Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray >and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and >bobs your uncle! > >Ah yes, improving the fun of flying, while removing the "danger" factor. > >Ohio Ralph No ....... that's why we do this thing we do. It's so we "don't" remove the danger factor. That's the only reason we do it. It's not a game - it's as real as you want to make it. Anyone can go to Disney World and ride the scary roller coster! You won't die. Or play an online game and get killed. You won't die! But we have only "one man" with what we do. And you can die! That's what makes it real. I've Scuba dived, Sky dived, Climbed rocks...etc, etc, etc.--- boring. This is the only thing that I've done - that has lasted - 25 years. It is dangerous because it's real. It's real because it's dangerous. .. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:30 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 36 KOLBs At 08:54 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" > >I was looking at the Barnstormers site a while ago and discovered 36 >Kolbs for sale. Many names I have seen posted on here. Its really sad to see. >They range from busted through unfinished through many-many happy >hours of flying. Not a type is missing from Ultras through Kolbra's. Ever look at "Cub's for sale" on Barnstormers ? Maybe the Kolb market has matured to that of a GA plane. Maybe not so sad?? Maybe a good sign? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:35 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New Member Panel Question I don't do flight sims because I suck at it. I doubt I would be much better at RC. Do pretty good with real airplanes, in spite of instead of because of any danger. Sensuous without drugs. do not archive On 23, Sep 2006, at 11:43 PM, possums wrote: > At 07:41 PM 9/23/2006, you wrote: > >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" > > >Why, just think about it. All one would have to do is take a TV tray > >and mount a flat screen display on it, set it on their lap, and > >bobs your uncle! > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:37:08 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail wire brace size At 04:38 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote: >--> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com > >Greetings Kolb fans, > >I'm getting ready to replace the wire bracing on my tail because the cable >tangs are starting the wear into the thimbles. This morning before >I departed >for Kansas City I looked at my drawings and they call for a 3/32" stainless >steel cable. The question I have is it 3/32" 7X7 or 3/32"7X19 >stainless steel >cable? You might look into "machine swaged" tail wires with 1/2 turn buckle swaged into one end since you already know the length of your wires. They are adjustable about an 3/4 inch per wire. Lots of AP's have a swage machine, hell we got one! (I know I sent you this before but?) http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Modtail&swagedwires.jpg And they've got something to take the place of those rusty old muffler springs now - if you can afford it. Cost about $25.00 from CPS and is stainless steel and you don't have to take your muffler off to put it on. Only problem so far.... is that the Stainless Steel tends to cut into the AN bolts - after about 60 hours. Solution - "Order new stainless steel AN (the ones with the springs) that came with the kit. CPS part # 30385 - you can see one at : http://www.adventuremotorsport.com/BallJointMufflerKit.htm