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1. 02:38 AM - Do Not Archive? (Dave Bigelow)
2. 05:25 AM - Re: Tail wire brace size (planecrazzzy)
3. 06:35 AM - Re: Tail wire brace size (Richard Girard)
4. 06:40 AM - Is Lexan source important? (John Bickham)
5. 08:09 AM - Re: 36 KOLBs (ropermike)
6. 08:28 AM - Re: Tail wire brace size (APilot@webtv.net)
7. 01:45 PM - Re: 36 KOLBs (Ralph Hoover)
8. 01:50 PM - Re: Is Lexan source important? (Ralph Hoover)
9. 04:05 PM - Re: Is Lexan source important? (Larry Bourne)
10. 04:48 PM - Re: Is Lexan source important? (David Downey)
11. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: 36 KOLBs (David Key)
12. 05:05 PM - Re: Re: Is Lexan source important? (Jim Baker)
13. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Is Lexan source important? (Charlie England)
14. 05:54 PM - Good Air Today (planecrazzzy)
15. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: Is Lexan source important? (Herb Gayheart)
16. 06:42 PM - Re: Good Air Today (john s. flannery)
17. 06:52 PM - Re: Good Air Today (john s. flannery)
18. 07:10 PM - Re: Good Air Today (russ kinne)
19. 07:35 PM - Pulling the wings off a Kolb ()
20. 07:43 PM - Re: Good Air Today (john s. flannery)
21. 07:49 PM - Re: Pulling the wings off a Kolb (john s. flannery)
22. 08:19 PM - Smoked Lexan (Lanny Fetterman)
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave Bigelow" <up_country@hotmail.com>
Hey guys - it's OK to use our list as a chat room, but let's remember to put in
the "Do Not Archive" phrase if our contribution is not going to help someone
searching for an answer to a Kolb question. It also helps Matt keep the storage
space at a reasonable level.
Do Not Archive
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Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, Rotax 503 DCDI
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wire brace size |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Possum,
Where are you supposed to go at that "ball joint" address...
I clicked on several things , but no luck...
Gotta Fly...
Mike
PS My "do not archive" is in the signiture , automatic...
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wire brace size |
Will, Get 7 X 7 cable for structural cables. The individual strands are much
more robust then those in 7 X 19 constuction. The other advantage is that
you can often see a broken strand, rather than having to feel for it. Use 7
X 19 for control cables when you have to go around a pulley.
If there is a West Marine outlet near you, get their prestretched SS rigging
wire. It's still 7 X 7, but isn't oil coated.
Rick
On 9/24/06, possums <possums@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> At 04:38 PM 9/26/2005, you wrote:
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> --> Kolb-List message posted by: WillUribe@aol.com
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> Greetings Kolb fans,
>
> I'm getting ready to replace the wire bracing on my tail because the cable
>
> tangs are starting the wear into the thimbles. This morning before I
> departed
> for Kansas City I looked at my drawings and they call for a 3/32"
> stainless
> steel cable. The question I have is it 3/32" 7X7 or 3/32"7X19 stainless
> steel
> cable?
>
>
> You might look into "machine swaged" tail wires with 1/2
> turn buckle
> swaged into one end since you already know the length of your wires.
> They are adjustable about an 3/4 inch per wire. Lots of AP's have a
> swage
> machine, hell we got one! (I know I sent you this before but?)
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Modtail&swagedwires.jpg <http://www.mindspring.com/%7Epossums/Modtail&swagedwires.jpg>
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>
> And they've got something to take the place of those rusty old muffler
> springs
> now - if you can afford it.
> Cost about $25.00 from CPS and is stainless steel and you don't have to
> take your muffler off to put it on.
>
> Only problem so far.... is that the Stainless Steel tends to cut into
> the AN bolts - after about 60 hours.
> Solution -
> "Order new stainless steel AN (the ones
> with the springs) that came with the kit.
>
> CPS part # 30385 - you can see one at :
>
>
> http://www.adventuremotorsport.com/BallJointMufflerKit.htm
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>
> *
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> *
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>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Hello List,
Fixing to put all the parts back together. Weather is interfering with priming/painting.
It looks like KY got blasted last night. Hope everyone is OK and
safe at the Homecoming.
On the list is new windscreen and door coverings. I need to purchase some more
Lexan (polycarbonate sheet). Searched the archives for tips and tricks. Noticed
some older threads about quality of Lexan going down and cracking being a
problem.
>From another source, read about the box stores (Home "deposit" and not so Lowes)
get the cheaper, non-prime Lexan. Any success or horror stories on Lexan
from big box stores?
Looking for a plastic supplier in area that sells retail. May mail order from a
place like
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "ropermike" <ropermike2002@yahoo.com>
Do not despair! There is more people learning about Kolbs all the time. I was browsing
through Barnstormers a few months ago and found a sweet little Mk ll about
80 miles away and to make a long story short, I am now a Kolb driver. (Still
learning). I'm having a ball! I plan to build one in the future but for now
my MKll is the apple of my eye!....Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Tail wire brace size |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: APilot@webtv.net
Yesterday, I noticed that Osh in Sacramento sells aircraft cable from
1/16" and larger diameters and sells the swag nicros too.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Well Ropermike, Congrats! And welcome. A great forgiving choice among planes. Ask
me how I know. No, don't.
And Possum said:
"Maybe the Kolb market has matured to that of a GA plane.
Maybe not so sad?? Maybe a good sign? "
You know how long it takes to make good friends now a days? Well, when I left
the biker world, I had nuttin in common with most of them anymore.
I hope we don't loose anymore. And I hope Kolb factory grows each year in sales!
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
John, I need to get some also .060 thick, lightly smoked if posible, for my overhead
gap seal. I guess it could be up to 1/8" thick as the Kolb leading edge
is aluminum and wouldn't require any bending.
My instructor suggested Mc Master Carr. I haven't looked, but I do know that the
stuff is getting more expensive.
Let me know what you find.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
I'm not sure about the big stores, but my inclination would be to look at
the brand of lexan. I kinda think GE or whatever lexan would be the same
stuff regardless of where you buy it.
The thing I'd watch for is picking it up yourself if possible. I had A/C
Spruce ship me a sheet a couple of years ago, and it cost over $50.00 for
freight - it's too big for UPS - and that was cut in 1/2, and A/C Spruce'
Corona store is only 50 miles away. Dollar a mile. Pretty steep. The
package was just 4'x4' and a few inches thick. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Is Lexan source important?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
>
>>
>>From another source, read about the box stores (Home "deposit" and not so
>>Lowes) get the cheaper, non-prime Lexan. Any success or horror stories on
>>Lexan from big box stores?
>
> Looking for a plastic supplier in area that sells retail. May mail order
> from a place like
>
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> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
Lexan is the GE trademark for polycarbonate resin. Tuffak and Cyrolon are others.
I would suggest doing a little research on the different grades available within
each brand. Some are quite a bit better than others.
Other things that can be done to minimize crazing and cracking include "flame
polishing" the cut edges and heated bending.
Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne"
I'm not sure about the big stores, but my inclination would be to look at
the brand of lexan. I kinda think GE or whatever lexan would be the same
stuff regardless of where you buy it.
The thing I'd watch for is picking it up yourself if possible. I had A/C
Spruce ship me a sheet a couple of years ago, and it cost over $50.00 for
freight - it's too big for UPS - and that was cut in 1/2, and A/C Spruce'
Corona store is only 50 miles away. Dollar a mile. Pretty steep. The
package was just 4'x4' and a few inches thick. Lar.
Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bickham"
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Is Lexan source important?
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Bickham"
>
>>
>>From another source, read about the box stores (Home "deposit" and not so
>>Lowes) get the cheaper, non-prime Lexan. Any success or horror stories on
>>Lexan from big box stores?
>
> Looking for a plastic supplier in area that sells retail. May mail order
> from a place like
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C
>
Dave Downey
in SE PA
Carpe Tigercubium
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I spoke with Travis at TNK after OSH and he said he's never seen so much
interest as he saw this year.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
> Let me know what you find.
>
> Ohio Ralph
http://www.usplastic.com
Try using
www.thomasnet.com
to search for materials.....quite handy.
Jim Baker
580.788.2779
Elmore City, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
Ralph Hoover wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
>John, I need to get some also .060 thick, lightly smoked if posible, for my overhead
gap seal. I guess it could be up to 1/8" thick as the Kolb leading edge
is aluminum and wouldn't require any bending.
>
>My instructor suggested Mc Master Carr. I haven't looked, but I do know that the
stuff is getting more expensive.
>
>Let me know what you find.
>
>Ohio Ralph
>
Try the Yellow Pages. I recently bought a piece from a local company
that does all manner of plastic fab work in acrylic, polycarbonate & (I
suppose) other forms of plastic. I just walked in with the old piece
(landing light cover for an RV-4) & told them the overall dimensions
needed. They went in back, found a scrap that was close & I was out much
less than $10. This was in Jackson MS, a comparative backwater of
civilization.
Even the local Home Depots around here carry both types of plastic in
various thicknesses. I'd have gone there, but the walk from the car was
shorter at the specialty store & the service was much faster & more
knowledgeable.
Smoked probably isn't available at the big box stores, but clear
shouldn't be any problem. Besides, all you need to do is spill a little
fuel on it & lexan will be 'smoked' in a hurry. :-)
Charlie
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Hey Guys,
I saw my fastest Ground speed today , 91 MPH
I don't have a full encloser yet , but my air speed was 70-75 today
The prop was really getting a hold on the crisp air...
There was a 10-20 mph wind but it wasn't gusting , so it was some good
flying...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
Ralph
There is a Plastics supply house in every nook and cranny.. Gotta be
several in your neighborhood?? They have all kinds of material.. Lexan
sheets being one of them.. Local place in Gallatin Tenn,Bruce Plastics,
sells .0625 for 65 dollars for a 4x8 sheet.. Clear.. Not sure about
smoked??
Herb
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 13:50:34 -0700 "Ralph Hoover"
<flht99reh@columbus.rr.com> writes:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
> <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
> John, I need to get some also .060 thick, lightly smoked if posible,
> for my overhead gap seal. I guess it could be up to 1/8" thick as
> the Kolb leading edge is aluminum and wouldn't require any bending.
>
> My instructor suggested Mc Master Carr. I haven't looked, but I do
> know that the stuff is getting more expensive.
>
> Let me know what you find.
>
> Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Good Air Today |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
Rub it in. But, what's VNE?
Groundbound this week.
jsf
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Good Air Today
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> I saw my fastest Ground speed today , 91 MPH
>
> I don't have a full encloser yet , but my air speed was 70-75 today
>
> The prop was really getting a hold on the crisp air...
>
> There was a 10-20 mph wind but it wasn't gusting , so it was some good
>
> flying...
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Good Air Today |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
PS,
Hey, Guy, Re: VNE
The terminal velocity of a skydiver is about 124 mph (200 kph). Put your
nose down and try to exceed it if you want to wind it up permanently, as
one of our cancer-ridden buddies did in a Challenger, right in front of his
back-country NM hangar.
Who know when the wings will come off a Kolb.
jsf
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Good Air Today
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey Guys,
> I saw my fastest Ground speed today , 91 MPH>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Good Air Today |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
VNE = Velocity, Never-Exceed. You should know this!
On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:41 PM, john s. flannery wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery"
> <jsflan@valornet.com>
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> Rub it in. But, what's VNE?
>
> Groundbound this week.
>
> jsf
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy"
> <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 5:54 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Good Air Today
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>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy"
>> <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>> Hey Guys,
>> I saw my fastest Ground speed today , 91 MPH
>> I don't have a full encloser yet , but my air speed was 70-75 today
>> The prop was really getting a hold on the crisp air...
>> There was a 10-20 mph wind but it wasn't gusting , so it was
>> some good flying...
>> Gotta Fly...
>> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Pulling the wings off a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
> Who know when the wings will come off a Kolb.
I believe John Hauk knows. I seem to recall he had an incident like that
once upon a time, during some testing or something.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Good Air Today |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
Come on, Kinne, it's like past the maximum shutter speed of the camera,
only in this case the aircraft's safe function. Velocity Never Exceed. I
would assume this is a known and published speed for all Kolbs, as it is for
all General Aviation aircraft.
jsf
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From: "russ kinne" <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Good Air Today
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> VNE = Velocity, Never-Exceed. You should know this!
>
> On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:41 PM, john s. flannery wrote:
>
>> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery"
>> <jsflan@valornet.com>
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>> Rub it in. But, what's VNE?
>>
>> Groundbound this week.
>>
>> jsf
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| Subject: | Re: Pulling the wings off a Kolb |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com>
Not always a factor of speed, however, but glad he had the chute to throw
out. If he had thirteen letters in his name, he'd be one of us...The Black
Cat Society, and maybe he sneaked in as some do. We have 13 lives and I've
used more than a few. Last was with the red wretch mis-rigged and loose
throttle and throttle cable. Am watching it every day.
john s flannery
do not achieve
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From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Pulling the wings off a Kolb
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
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>> Who know when the wings will come off a Kolb.
>
> I believe John Hauk knows. I seem to recall he had an incident like that
> once upon a time, during some testing or something.
>
> do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@csrlink.net>
Hi, Ralph and All, I talked to a pilot somewhere, that said he tinted Lexan
with Rit fabric dye. I never tried it, if you try it, let us know if it
works. Lanny Fetterman FSII N598LF
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