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1. 05:15 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 (Todd Fredricks)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: First flight of MIIIC N285CZ (Ralph Hoover)
3. 05:29 AM - Re: Is Lexan source important? (Ralph Hoover)
4. 06:35 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 (Craig Nelson)
5. 06:42 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 (Larry Bourne)
6. 08:33 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
7. 09:00 AM - Re: Sport Pilot (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
8. 09:06 AM - Dry Lake (Craig Nelson)
9. 09:15 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
10. 09:43 AM - Re: Dry Lake (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
12. 10:18 AM - 180 turn back to runway (first flight) (Jason Omelchuck)
13. 10:46 AM - Re: 180 turn back to runway (first flight) (Ralph Hoover)
14. 11:21 AM - Re: Sport Pilot (Richard Girard)
15. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Is Lexan source important? (George Myers)
16. 11:59 AM - Re: 180 turn back to runway (first flight) (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
17. 01:22 PM - Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage (Gherkins Tim-rp3420)
18. 01:28 PM - Re: Sport Pilot (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
19. 03:35 PM - Re: Sport Pilot (Kolbdriver)
20. 03:42 PM - 2006 Kolb Homecoming Photos (John Williamson)
21. 03:51 PM - Not-so-cheap thrills (Ralph Hoover)
22. 04:16 PM - Re: Not-so-cheap thrills (Ralph Hoover)
23. 04:29 PM - Re: Not-so-cheap thrills (Ralph Hoover)
24. 05:07 PM - Re: 2006 Kolb Homecoming Photos (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
25. 05:39 PM - Re: Sport Pilot (john s. flannery)
26. 05:53 PM - Plug Color (David Key)
27. 05:58 PM - Re: New Member Panel Question (Mike Schnabel)
28. 06:34 PM - Re: Sport Pilot (Michael Sharp)
29. 06:46 PM - Flutter Question (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
30. 07:05 PM - Re: Flutter Question (Richard Pike)
31. 07:48 PM - Re: Flutter Question (Richard Girard)
32. 08:08 PM - Re: Not-so-cheap thrills (possums)
33. 08:10 PM - Tail Wheel (Jeff Nelson)
34. 08:25 PM - Re: Tail Wheel (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
35. 08:41 PM - Re: Flutter Question (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
36. 11:12 PM - Re: Not-so-cheap thrills (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
Craig:
Are you giving up on the engine cowling?
Todd
On 9/26/06 2:32 AM, "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com> wrote:
> <<DSC_0015.JPG>> <<DSC_0020.JPG>> <<DSC_0022.JPG>>
> <<DSC_0059.JPG>> <<DSC_0067.JPG>>
> Fun
> Uncle Craig
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| Subject: | Re: First flight of MIIIC N285CZ |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Jason, Good for you.
12 years ago I was 49, transitioning between racing sail boats and getting back
into the motorcycle world for the third time. I reflect back and have to hand
you a great "Tanasity Trophy"! Lives changes, familys changes, jobs change, the
world changes. Gas went up, then down, then back up. U.S. went into and out
of strifes and threats. But you Jason, stayed the course.
It became a "have to do" rather than a can do. You had to eat, sleep and live "build
the plane, build the plane".
Thats incredible. And here it is done. Just like a dad finished paying for his
sons doctorate, and at the edge of the stage waiting for the hats to fly from
their hands, having accepted his degree and thanking his family for their support.
Then finding yourself one of his first patients. And finding out that the
money was in deed, well spent.
Many great years of flight, do I wish upon you. You have raised the bar.
Ohio Ralph numb in your presence!
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
I guess that the duel "George Myers grin" is conformation that Big Lar is the winner!
Actually, if one orders the 060 material, even if its 8 foot x 4 foot, the container
would be no larger that the 4 foot as they could roll it upon itself. The
larger thickness however doesn't roll into as small a container and does sometimes
have to be shipped flat. Very expensive as Lar stated.
My full wind screen is 1/16" thick and was dificult enough to form, hold down in
place while I drilled and pop rivited it to the supports.
Ohio Ralph
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| Subject: | Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Fredricks
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022,
DSC_0059, DSC_0067
--> Kolb-List message posted by: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
Todd
No still testing the engine, I want to get a few more hours on her B4
installing the cowling. Made a lot of modifications. Taking it slow and
easy
Uncle craig
DO NOT ARCIVE
Craig:
Are you giving up on the engine cowling?
Todd
.
>
>
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Todd Fredricks, DO
Flying Fox Services
http://web.mac.com/flyingfoxservices
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
Way to go, Craig. Have fun in that toy. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk III
Vamoose
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:32 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059,
DSC_0067
<<DSC_0015.JPG>> <<DSC_0020.JPG>> <<DSC_0022.JPG>>
<<DSC_0059.JPG>> <<DSC_0067.JPG>>
Fun
Uncle Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022, DSC_0059, DSC_0067 |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Hey Unk Craig...
Great pics. Where is that dry lake (?) you're flying from?
AzDave
Fun
Uncle Craig
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
<< What is the best glide speed for a Kolb MkIII? What is Vx
and Vy? (I'm around 50 to 55 for both of them and can't see hardly any
difference in climb rate.) AzDave >>
Hey, Arizona Dave -
For my bone-stock Mark-III, I declared 55 for Vy (best rate = best
glide), and 50 for Vx (best angle), when the FAA asked me. (As you
know, we are required to determine these speeds for our homebuilt
airplanes during our Phase-I flight testing period, and document them in
our aircraft log as part of FAA certification.)
And like you, I'm seeing hardly any difference in climb rate between
these two speeds. Good luck in finishing up your certification!
Dennis Kirby
912ul, "Magic Bike"
Cedar Crest, NM
(Now, if I could just get this silly 'spider' to work right ... ;-)
do not archive
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
El Marriage California or however you spell it?
Uncle craig
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
Pelletier
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022,
DSC_0059, DSC_0067
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
<pelletier@cableone.net>
Hey Unk Craig...
Great pics. Where is that dry lake (?) you're flying from?
AzDave
Fun
Uncle Craig
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| Subject: | Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
AZ Dave/All
Uncle Craig and myself and another good friend(retired DPS heli
pilot/officer) spent last week at El Mirage dry lake bed near
Victorville CA for flight testing and to attend the annual PRA (popular
rotorcraft association). Flight tests went well and soon we will have a
full cowl on the engine. Excellent place to fly. Perfect weather and 6
miles long and 3 mile wide of the smoothest packed clay lake bed.
Tim
FSII
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
Pelletier
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022,
DSC_0059, DSC_0067
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
--> <pelletier@cableone.net>
Hey Unk Craig...
Great pics. Where is that dry lake (?) you're flying from?
AzDave
Fun
Uncle Craig
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Yeah, been there a couple of times. It's about ten miles away from Brian
Ranch in Llano, which is one fine Ultralight facility. Dunno how it was
when you were there, but that lake bed is a beehive of activity on weekends.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Dry Lake
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
>
> El Marriage California or however you spell it?
> Uncle craig
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier" <pelletier@cableone.net>
Tim,
Yeah, just commented on Uncle Craig's reply. OK, (and you know what's
coming) now when are you gonna put that extraordinarily beautiful Firestar
in the air? Like I mentioned to you before, If you and Uncle Craig take
both your birds to Oshkosh or S & F, you'll drive the judges crazy trying to
figure out who to give the Grand Champ trophy to. Those sure are pretty
birds.
AzDave
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420"
> <rp3420@freescale.com>
>
> AZ Dave/All
>
> Uncle Craig and myself and another good friend(retired DPS heli
> pilot/officer) spent last week at El Mirage dry lake bed near
> Victorville CA for flight testing and to attend the annual PRA (popular
> rotorcraft association). Flight tests went well and soon we will have a
> full cowl on the engine. Excellent place to fly. Perfect weather and 6
> miles long and 3 mile wide of the smoothest packed clay lake bed.
>
> Tim
> FSII
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
> Pelletier
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022,
> DSC_0059, DSC_0067
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> --> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Hey Unk Craig...
>
> Great pics. Where is that dry lake (?) you're flying from?
>
> AzDave
>
>
> Fun
> Uncle Craig
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 180 turn back to runway (first flight) |
Hello all,
Many of you have commented about my 180 back to the runway after an engine
out on the first flight. So as not to encourage this activity at the wrong
time, let me expound on the story. I had 5000 of runway and no wind. I
lifted of in the first 500' of runway. At the departure end of the runway,
I had 500 or more feet of altitude. When the engine quit, I was able to
drop the nose at will and build the airspeed up to to a good flying speed.
To be honest, I don't know what that speed was, I was too busy flying the
airplane (and obviously had the runway made) to look but my guess was it was
about 65. I landed in the first 1/3 of the departure end of the runway, so
by my (thumbnail) calculations it would have been a lot more exciting if I
had been flying out of runway that was 3000' or less. This runway was
picked by design, many of the local ultralighters told me it was too busy so
it was not a good runway to test fly out of. At this point I am glad I
listened to myself and selected a runway that is not only 5000' long but has
no obstructions on either end. The short story is that on the first flight,
have a plan and make sure your surroundings allow for a huge margin of
error. Either that or be much much wiser than I am and be 100% sure that
everything and every system on your airplane will perform to 100%, 100% of
the time (even though it has never flown before) :).
Jason
MKIIIC BMW R100
Portland OR
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| Subject: | Re: 180 turn back to runway (first flight) |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Jason, In response, and I may be corrected, but here goes.
We will return to the ways that are embedid within us and how we are trained. Your
on the ground, you are safe, the plane is safe, you are a better pilot for
your hands on experience.
Now in retrospect, looking back as only the individual doing the doing could do;
Would you change anything of what you did? If so, what? How? At what point would
that decision have to be decided upon.
I can speak for many, if not most and especially me in saying that we will ALL
experience a test of our knowledge. As Possum best put it (but not a quote) "thats
what makes this an interesting sport..the danger." Sorry Possum if I mis-percieved
or mis-represented your actual intent.
I'm sure with 12 years of building under your belt, you were every bit as concerned
about a safe uneventful landing as you were about your 12 year investment.
I am glad you did what you did when you did it, Your proof as I am from my mistake.
Ready to fly again.
Made in Ohio, more humble each day, Ralph
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John, I fly a 582 powered Mk 3. Last time I went out at dawn to do timed
climbs, I got a flat result from 50 to 65 mph of right at 500 fpm. It was 80
degrees at 6:30 a.m., ah summer in Kansas.
I use 60 as the top of the white arc (flap speeds) 90 as the top of the
green arc 90 to 99 as the yellow arc (max smooth air cruise) and 100 even as
red line (VNE).
After I put the aileron balances on I took it out to 120 to check for
flutter. I usually cruise at 80 to 85 IAS if I want to get somewhere and 70
to 75 when I'm just out cruising. Your results may differ as I have the prop
(Warp Drive 66" 3 blade with straight blades) set to get 6500 max RPM.
Rick
On 9/25/06, john s. flannery <jsflan@valornet.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, And, do you believe *that*, with a Kolb Mark III of unknown age,
> use, and provenance, covered with very thin but clean fabric you can't
> define? And no built-in umbrella or *falschirm*? But, it has held
> together at 70, maybe plus to date. Think my old-tried-it-still-here side
> says " I shan't seek 100 mph." Nor shall I creep much past 70 indicated.
> Verily and foresooth as the boys say.
>
> And next, the flaps extension speed and how many threads should be
> concealed in the flap rod. An A&P messed up the flap levers rebuild and had
> to back out to get flaps balanced with underside of wings at 0-degrees or
> lose 5 mph.
>
> jsf
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kolbdriver <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 6:52 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
>
> According to the paperwork that came from Phoenixville the VNE of the
> Mark III is 100MPH.
>
>
> Mike
>
> Oak Grove Missouri
>
> Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
>
> Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
>
> Started with Big Lar still behind...
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *john s. flannery
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 8:27 PM
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
>
>
> AZDave,
>
>
> Doubt their is much difference in, or too much concern about Vx and Vy
> where 50 to 55 can be an inch of stick or a slight gust, and I firmly
> believe the one to be concerned about in any of these is VNE. Anybody know
> what it is on the Mark III?
>
>
> When I can get the problems half straightened out with the Mark III and
> can fly, I am getting 500 fpm and sometimes 700 fpm on takeoff when
> density altitude drops below 6K here in southern NM. It's beginning to drop
> with change in weather. Now if I just ordered the right parts ...
>
>
> jsf
>
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Dave & Eve Pelletier <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 4:25 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
>
>
> Russ,
>
>
> I agree. But where do I look them up? That's my question. I'm about
> the fifth owner of this plane and no paperwork came with it. In testing,
> best glide seems to be at 50 mph. I know what Vx and Vy are defined as. I
> don't know if there are any "official" numbers for the Kolb MkIII. Vx and
> Vy seem to be 50 and 55 mph, but that's what I get when I test it. There
> seems to be no difference in climb from one of these speeds to the other.
> Depending on conditions, I'm climbing at 200 to 300 fpm at both of these
> speeds. If I go to higher or lower speeds, the climb rate drops. I forgot
> to mention, I'm flying a MKIII with a 582.
>
>
> AzDave
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
>
>
> Az Dave
>
> You guys should all know the V-speeds; it's pretty basic info. Do yourself
> a favor and look them up; less than a dozen.
>
> Won't your SP examiner ask these? He should.
>
> Vx is best angle-of-climb speed, Vy is best rate-of-climb. Important to
> know which to use if you want to climb over a ridge or simply gain altitude
> quickly.
>
> Best-glide speed should be implanted IN CAPS, in your brain before you
> ever fly anywhere, anytime. If the engine quits you don't want to waste any
> time trying to remember it.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
>
>
> Been flying a lot and I'm real close to taking the Sport Pilot
> practical test - hopefully in the first week of Oct. A couple of
> questions: What is the best glide speed for a Kolb MkIII? What is Vx and
> Vy? (I'm around 50 to 55 for both of them and can't see hardly any
> difference in climb rate.) Will take any acvice you can give.
>
>
> AzDave
>
>
> Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Is Lexan source important? |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Myers" <gmyers@grandecom.net>
>I guess that the duel "George Myers grin" is conformation that Big Lar is
the winner!
I resemble that remark!
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| Subject: | Re: 180 turn back to runway (first flight) |
Jason
Congratulations. Also thanks for sharing all that information. It is now
clear why you did the 180. At 500 ft AGL you had plenty of altitude to
safely do the 180 with even some margin for error.
As a Rotax alternative proponent I'm very interested in your BMW. When
you get time please explore your engine capabilities and share them with
us. Of particular interest are cost, custom work that had to be
performed to mount the engine, weight and noise/vibration. Height of
thrust line above boom tube. High or low mount gear box and reduction
ratio. Also send photos. As for performance we would like to know climb
rate, cruise speeds with percent power and RPM, fuel burn at cruise.
I know I'm asking allot and don't expect everything right away. Allot of
this is from what people have asked me. Engine choices are very
important and can be very costly (Rotax 912). Reliability is also a
major concern, if you are traveling over inhospitable country it may be
the most important thing and if so most people would be wise to choose
the Rotax 912 "for now". As time goes bye we will find out how reliable
the BMW is on a airplane.
Anyone out there that has other engines please share your experience.
Now that the a (Rotax 912) costs more than the airplane it is a
significant portion of airplane ownership. Most of us can afford to own
a rotax 912 series on a airplane but may choose not to even own a
airplane because they need or want to spend the hard earned dollars
elsewhere. A lower cost engine might open up aviation for a lot more
people.
Thanks again and congratulations
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Omelchuck
To: 'Kolb-List Digest Server'
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 180 turn back to runway (first flight)
Hello all,
Many of you have commented about my 180 back to the runway after an
engine out on the first flight. So as not to encourage this activity at
the wrong time, let me expound on the story. I had 5000 of runway and
no wind. I lifted of in the first 500' of runway. At the departure end
of the runway, I had 500 or more feet of altitude. When the engine
quit, I was able to drop the nose at will and build the airspeed up to
to a good flying speed. To be honest, I don't know what that speed was,
I was too busy flying the airplane (and obviously had the runway made)
to look but my guess was it was about 65. I landed in the first 1/3 of
the departure end of the runway, so by my (thumbnail) calculations it
would have been a lot more exciting if I had been flying out of runway
that was 3000' or less. This runway was picked by design, many of the
local ultralighters told me it was too busy so it was not a good runway
to test fly out of. At this point I am glad I listened to myself and
selected a runway that is not only 5000' long but has no obstructions on
either end. The short story is that on the first flight, have a plan
and make sure your surroundings allow for a huge margin of error.
Either that or be much much wiser than I am and be 100% sure that
everything and every system on your airplane will perform to 100%, 100%
of the time (even though it has never flown before) :).
Jason
MKIIIC BMW R100
Portland OR
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| Subject: | Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
AZ Dave,
Thank you for the kind words about our Kolbs. Our primary goal is to
get uncle Craig's plane inspected and registered and test time flown
off. Then we will concentrate on my Firestar II. I plan to start flight
school to obtain my private pilot certificate this fall. We'll keep you
all posted.
Tim/Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
Pelletier
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
--> <pelletier@cableone.net>
Tim,
Yeah, just commented on Uncle Craig's reply. OK, (and you know
what's
coming) now when are you gonna put that extraordinarily beautiful
Firestar in the air? Like I mentioned to you before, If you and Uncle
Craig take both your birds to Oshkosh or S & F, you'll drive the judges
crazy trying to figure out who to give the Grand Champ trophy to. Those
sure are pretty birds.
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" <rp3420@freescale.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, El Mirage
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420"
> <rp3420@freescale.com>
>
> AZ Dave/All
>
> Uncle Craig and myself and another good friend(retired DPS heli
> pilot/officer) spent last week at El Mirage dry lake bed near
> Victorville CA for flight testing and to attend the annual PRA
(popular
> rotorcraft association). Flight tests went well and soon we will have
a
> full cowl on the engine. Excellent place to fly. Perfect weather and
6
> miles long and 3 mile wide of the smoothest packed clay lake bed.
>
> Tim
> FSII
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
> Pelletier
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: DSC_0015, DSC_0020, DSC_0022,
> DSC_0059, DSC_0067
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dave & Eve Pelletier"
> --> <pelletier@cableone.net>
>
> Hey Unk Craig...
>
> Great pics. Where is that dry lake (?) you're flying from?
>
> AzDave
>
>
> Fun
> Uncle Craig
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
John, I fly a 582 powered Mk 3. Last time I went out at dawn to do
timed climbs, I got a flat result from 50 to 65 mph of right at 500 fpm.
It was 80 degrees at 6:30 a.m., ah summer in Kansas.
I use 60 as the top of the white arc (flap speeds) 90 as the top of
the green arc 90 to 99 as the yellow arc (max smooth air cruise) and 100
even as red line (VNE).
After I put the aileron balances on I took it out to 120 to check for
flutter. I usually cruise at 80 to 85 IAS if I want to get somewhere and
70 to 75 when I'm just out cruising. Your results may differ as I have
the prop (Warp Drive 66" 3 blade with straight blades) set to get 6500
max RPM.
Rick
WOW! I'd love to get those numbers. Sometimes, when conditions are
right, I can get 500 fpm in the early a.m. In fact one time I got 700
but it was back to 500 before I could get the camera out :-). The only
way I can get 80 to 85 is down hill. My cruise is about 60 - 65 and I
have the same set up as you do....Warp Drive 66" 3-blade and 6500 max.
My white arc is 70 but I've been told that you can pretty much depoy the
flaps at any speed. Like a dummy, I've had it to 80 on approach with
the flaps full down before I noticed it. I watch it much closer now.
AzDave
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I believe what the Designer of the aircraft states.
Few of us know the true details of the spam can we rent either.
Since exceeding Vne speed should never be done.. Hence the "ne" part. I
wouldn't seek 100 either.
Mike
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john s. flannery
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
Thanks, And, do you believe that, with a Kolb Mark III of unknown age, use,
and provenance, covered with very thin but clean fabric you can't define?
And no built-in umbrella or falschirm? But, it has held together at 70,
maybe plus to date. Think my old-tried-it-still-here side says " I shan't
seek 100 mph." Nor shall I creep much past 70 indicated. Verily and
foresooth as the boys say.
And next, the flaps extension speed and how many threads should be concealed
in the flap rod. An A&P messed up the flap levers rebuild and had to back
out to get flaps balanced with underside of wings at 0-degrees or lose 5
mph.
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kolbdriver <mailto:kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
According to the paperwork that came from Phoenixville the VNE of the Mark
III is 100MPH.
Mike
Oak Grove Missouri
Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
Started with Big Lar still behind...
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john s. flannery
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
AZDave,
Doubt their is much difference in, or too much concern about Vx and Vy where
50 to 55 can be an inch of stick or a slight gust, and I firmly believe the
one to be concerned about in any of these is VNE. Anybody know what it is on
the Mark III?
When I can get the problems half straightened out with the Mark III and can
fly, I am getting 500 fpm and sometimes 700 fpm on takeoff when density
altitude drops below 6K here in southern NM. It's beginning to drop with
change in weather. Now if I just ordered the right parts ...
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dave <mailto:pelletier@cableone.net> & Eve Pelletier
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
Russ,
I agree. But where do I look them up? That's my question. I'm about
the fifth owner of this plane and no paperwork came with it. In testing,
best glide seems to be at 50 mph. I know what Vx and Vy are defined as. I
don't know if there are any "official" numbers for the Kolb MkIII. Vx and
Vy seem to be 50 and 55 mph, but that's what I get when I test it. There
seems to be no difference in climb from one of these speeds to the other.
Depending on conditions, I'm climbing at 200 to 300 fpm at both of these
speeds. If I go to higher or lower speeds, the climb rate drops. I forgot
to mention, I'm flying a MKIII with a 582.
AzDave
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----- Original Message -----
From: russ kinne <mailto:kinnepix@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
Az Dave
You guys should all know the V-speeds; it's pretty basic info. Do yourself a
favor and look them up; less than a dozen.
Won't your SP examiner ask these? He should.
Vx is best angle-of-climb speed, Vy is best rate-of-climb. Important to know
which to use if you want to climb over a ridge or simply gain altitude
quickly.
Best-glide speed should be implanted IN CAPS, in your brain before you ever
fly anywhere, anytime. If the engine quits you don't want to waste any time
trying to remember it.
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On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:00 PM, Dave & Eve Pelletier wrote:
Guys,
Been flying a lot and I'm real close to taking the Sport Pilot practical
test - hopefully in the first week of Oct. A couple of questions: What is
the best glide speed for a Kolb MkIII? What is Vx and Vy? (I'm around 50
to 55 for both of them and can't see hardly any difference in climb rate.)
Will take any acvice you can give.
AzDave
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| Subject: | 2006 Kolb Homecoming Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
I just added some photos of the trip to TNK Homecoming to my website.
It rained once and the tent never leaked. I still had a great time.
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1/
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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| Subject: | Not-so-cheap thrills |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
Man, this is almost as good as thereal thing without the "Possum" fear factor.
Too bad it costs around the same price as a new Firestar!
High speed internet ONLY. THe rest will have to wait, unfortunatly!
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/remote-flying-with-vr-goggles-and-a-camera-202964.php
Ohio Ralph
P.S. It is pretty close to the quality of the river run from Possum!
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| Subject: | Re: Not-so-cheap thrills |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
THis one is also no slow internet. It is a luxury we cannot afford, at least very
often and in these ways. Still interesting to watch. Sorry. I'm not trying
to turn this into a RC video site. Just thought it was pretty amazing.
Ohio Ralph
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=4410783374249173794&hl=fr
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| Subject: | Re: Not-so-cheap thrills |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
OK, Last one. Only reason its here is because of the rolls!
Ohio Ralph
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-6884817858714442651&hl=fr
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| Subject: | Re: 2006 Kolb Homecoming Photos |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
John W
Where we at the same Homecoming? I remember it QUIT raining once. Also how
did you get that photo of John H rolling without all that water being thrown
by his wheels. Also my tent leaked. Good Homecoming otherwise.
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Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Williamson" <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:41 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 2006 Kolb Homecoming Photos
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Williamson"
> <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
>
> I just added some photos of the trip to TNK Homecoming to my website.
>
> It rained once and the tent never leaked. I still had a great time.
>
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Not sure I agree, Mike.
As I remember, all the "spam cans" I've rented and owned have had gauges
color-marked indicating never exceed speed, caution range , maximum
structural cruising speed, normal operation range, maximum speed flaps
extended, flap operation range and that very important one touched on
earlier, maneuvering speed. They didn't get through annual without those
markings, I recall. And the ubiquitous operating manuals published by
the manufacturers even listed the variations in those speeds for
floatplanes, skiplanes and of course, landplanes.
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kolbdriver
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
I believe what the Designer of the aircraft states.
Few of us know the true details of the spam can we rent either.
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--> Kolb-List message posted by: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
I have a 912UL I was checking my plugs and they look white. I've never had a
4 stroke before but in a 2 stroke it would be too lean. Do the same colors
mean the same things in a 4 stroke?
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| Subject: | Re: New Member Panel Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Mike Schnabel" <tnfirestar2@yahoo.com>
Dear "self appointed Instrument panel /gauge cluster judge" Ralph...
sorry its talken so long to respond, my Yahoo email will not allow replies... have
i used my annual quota of Kolb list messages already??? I finally realized
that the forum was another way to post... so here goes!
Well, just wanted to offer my sincere thanks for your kind words on my humble cluster
of gauges... i really can take no credit. Designed and built by Bryan Melborn,
he knew what a Kolb flyer needed to see. Though, i would like to add a
slip indicatior just above the ASI, just as you thought!
Thanks again,
(looking forward to hearing from the TNK Homecoming crowd, and how as the event??)
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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John
My statement about the spam cans referred to your comment:
"Thanks, And, do you believe that, with a Kolb Mark III of unknown age, use,
and provenance, covered with very thin but clean fabric you can't define?
And no built-in umbrella or falschirm?"
The Spam cans I've rented and owned are covered with a very thin usually NOT
clean AL sheet and you have no idea how the last pilot treated the aircraft or
what "squawk's" he didn't report. And they can pass years worth of annuals with
the problems not being addressed... Therefore few of us know the true details
of the spam can we rent
Your statement seemed to hi-lite the condition of the aircraft and not the original
issue of Airspeed... Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Also, what does a "flip book" have to do with Aircraft?? i.e. "falschirm" Or
is it a term for something else??
Mike
"john s. flannery" <jsflan@valornet.com> wrote:
v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
} w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML)
} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } Not sure
I agree, Mike.
As I remember, all the "spam cans" I've rented and owned have had gauges color-marked
indicating never exceed speed, caution range , maximum structural cruising
speed, normal operation range, maximum speed flaps extended, flap operation
range and that very important one touched on earlier, maneuvering speed. They
didn't get through annual without those markings, I recall. And the ubiquitous
operating manuals published by the manufacturers even listed the variations
in those speeds for floatplanes, skiplanes and of course, landplanes.
jsf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kolbdriver
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot
I believe what the Designer of the aircraft states.
Few of us know the true details of the spam can we rent either.
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| Subject: | Flutter Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Kolb Friends -
I suspect I've had my first encounter with flutter on my Mark-3.
Not sure - that's why I'm asking this question: Can aileron flutter
happen in short bursts (like, durations less than one second)?
I was flying this morning in mildly turbulent air. Cruise power,
straight & level at about 65 mph indicated. I encountered a sudden
burst of vibration in the airframe that felt like (if you can picture
this) someone threw a big glop of oatmeal thru the prop. Just one short
burst - not a continuous vibration. At first I thought something soft
went thru my prop, like a rag or something.
Lemme tell you - this is something that will make you sit bolt upright,
eyes wide, and make you wonder, "What the heck was THAT?"
My plane IS equipped with the aileron counterbalance rods (thanks again,
J.Hauck), but they are slightly shortened to accommodate wing folding.
This happened four different times in my 1.2 hour flight. Aside from
that, everything was working fine (engine), and my postflight inspection
revealed no anomalies. Except ...
I had repaired some fabric on the outboard trailing edge of the right
aileron a week before this flight. In doing so, the outboard six inches
of aileron gap seal fabric (I use bookbinding tape) was removed. And
not re-installed, after the fabric fix. I suspect the new airflow
pattern due to the missing tape, plus the extra weight of the fabric
patch/paint on the aileron, was enough to initiate the flutter.
Anybody think this could be the cause?
I will definitely reinstall the gap seal tape before next flight - see
if that cures the problem.
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Flutter Question |
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Possibly aileron flutter. Watch it. If it flutters, you can see it. I had
some rudder flutter, but it was sort of long duration, not so much a flutter
as a waggle. But totally unacceptable. And it only happened if you took your
feet off the pedals. Replace that tape muy pronto and see how it does.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flutter Question
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL"
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> I suspect I've had my first encounter with flutter on my Mark-3.
> Not sure - that's why I'm asking this question: Can aileron flutter
> happen in short bursts (like, durations less than one second)?
>
> I was flying this morning in mildly turbulent air. Cruise power,
> straight & level at about 65 mph indicated. I encountered a sudden
> burst of vibration in the airframe that felt like (if you can picture
> this) someone threw a big glop of oatmeal thru the prop. Just one short
> burst - not a continuous vibration. At first I thought something soft
> went thru my prop, like a rag or something.
>
> Lemme tell you - this is something that will make you sit bolt upright,
> eyes wide, and make you wonder, "What the heck was THAT?"
>
> My plane IS equipped with the aileron counterbalance rods (thanks again,
> J.Hauck), but they are slightly shortened to accommodate wing folding.
>
> This happened four different times in my 1.2 hour flight. Aside from
> that, everything was working fine (engine), and my postflight inspection
> revealed no anomalies. Except ...
>
> I had repaired some fabric on the outboard trailing edge of the right
> aileron a week before this flight. In doing so, the outboard six inches
> of aileron gap seal fabric (I use bookbinding tape) was removed. And
> not re-installed, after the fabric fix. I suspect the new airflow
> pattern due to the missing tape, plus the extra weight of the fabric
> patch/paint on the aileron, was enough to initiate the flutter.
>
> Anybody think this could be the cause?
>
> I will definitely reinstall the gap seal tape before next flight - see
> if that cures the problem.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flutter Question |
Dennis, You say the counter balances were shortened. Are they still in
balance? If in doubt, disconnect your aileron push rods at the aileron bell
crank and check. The combination of patch and shortening could very well be
the cause of a flutter episode. It certainly sounds exactly like my first
flutter incident. Airspeed was about the same, and it did come and go like
that at first. I had no counter weights. Installing them and doing a careful
balance has the flutter threshold beyond 120 mph, now.
Rick
On 9/26/06, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
>
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <
> Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> I suspect I've had my first encounter with flutter on my Mark-3.
> Not sure - that's why I'm asking this question: Can aileron flutter
> happen in short bursts (like, durations less than one second)?
>
> I was flying this morning in mildly turbulent air. Cruise power,
> straight & level at about 65 mph indicated. I encountered a sudden
> burst of vibration in the airframe that felt like (if you can picture
> this) someone threw a big glop of oatmeal thru the prop. Just one short
> burst - not a continuous vibration. At first I thought something soft
> went thru my prop, like a rag or something.
>
> Lemme tell you - this is something that will make you sit bolt upright,
> eyes wide, and make you wonder, "What the heck was THAT?"
>
> My plane IS equipped with the aileron counterbalance rods (thanks again,
> J.Hauck), but they are slightly shortened to accommodate wing folding.
>
> This happened four different times in my 1.2 hour flight. Aside from
> that, everything was working fine (engine), and my postflight inspection
> revealed no anomalies. Except ...
>
> I had repaired some fabric on the outboard trailing edge of the right
> aileron a week before this flight. In doing so, the outboard six inches
> of aileron gap seal fabric (I use bookbinding tape) was removed. And
> not re-installed, after the fabric fix. I suspect the new airflow
> pattern due to the missing tape, plus the extra weight of the fabric
> patch/paint on the aileron, was enough to initiate the flutter.
>
> Anybody think this could be the cause?
>
> I will definitely reinstall the gap seal tape before next flight - see
> if that cures the problem.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Not-so-cheap thrills |
At 06:51 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" <flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
>
>Man, this is almost as good as thereal thing without the "Possum"
>fear factor. Too bad it costs around the same price as a new Firestar!
>
>High speed internet ONLY. THe rest will have to wait, unfortunatly!
>
>http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/remote-flying-with-vr-goggles-and-a-camera-202964.ph
So how much does it cost - I couldn't find out?
Would be nice to have the camera off my head and
on the wing tip, tail or nose etc. I's pretty light. I think
I could rig the servos - they're pretty strong in some RC's.
I know how it works with the gyros & all.
And don't have a problem flying with the goggles (redone)
anything below my nose is not a problem to watch and
fly at the same time. The screen I've got now sits just
to the right and below my nose. I'll bet I could rig up a
"Heads up Display" easier than you think.
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Hi All
First thanks for the response to the panel question. I have made a new
panel for mine and hope to get pictures soon. I have a couple of more
questions.
One is the tailwheel? What was standard and what do you all use?
Stearable? Fixed? Mine looks kind of crude and is falling apart. I
will fix the one I have but might look at lighter solutions as well.
The second question is fuel. I will be getting this licensed in LSA and
would like a little more fuel than 5 Gallons. What do you all use?
There was a second tank on this but it was a round tank in right behind
the sling seat and was worried if I had an accident or incident it could
do some damage to my person. also the seat is much more comfortable
with it out.
Just to remind you this is a Firestar KXP with 503.
Thanks
Jeff Nelson
Middleton, WI
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Jeff
I am flying an Original Firestar and I purchased a Full swivel Tail wheel
from TNK and it works great
I installed a 10 Gallon fuel tank with no problem not much bigger in size
other that the heigth than the original tank
You can check the archives I believe it is in there where I got the tank but
if you dont find it I can look at my paperwork and see if I can find out where
I got it
also there are Pictures of my Sexy Tail wheel in the Photoshare
Ellery
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flutter Question |
Rick
You keep saying 120 MPH!!!! I suspect your airspeed indicator is giving
you higher readings than actual speeds. The published VNE on a MKIIIc is
100 MPH. If I remember the other speeds correctly you were quoting were
a bit high for the engine you are running. That was a 582? Any way, if
you really were going 120 MPH then you are a very lucky individual. I
would not recommend that anyone try to duplicate this feat unless you
are trying to rip your wings off.
My $.02 worth.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flutter Question
Dennis, You say the counter balances were shortened. Are they still in
balance? If in doubt, disconnect your aileron push rods at the aileron
bell crank and check. The combination of patch and shortening could very
well be the cause of a flutter episode. It certainly sounds exactly like
my first flutter incident. Airspeed was about the same, and it did come
and go like that at first. I had no counter weights. Installing them and
doing a careful balance has the flutter threshold beyond 120 mph, now.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Not-so-cheap thrills |
At 11:07 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
>At 06:51 PM 9/26/2006, you wrote:
> >--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover"
> <<mailto:flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>flht99reh@Columbus.rr.com>
> >
> >Man, this is almost as good as the real thing without the "Possum"
> >fear factor. Too bad it costs around the same price as a new Firestar!
>So how much does it cost - I couldn't find out?
do not archive
Never mind - I got it figured out:
http://www.rc-tech.ch/web/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=18&Itemid=26&lang=fr
Gonna do some cloud pictures if I can get somebody to chase thru the holes
to give the video some perspective. Trikes are the best to chase.
Don't worry - we're not around any GA planes and I pick the clouds
after flying around them
or a least over them if they're too big.
It take "two" idgits doing the same thing to run into each other.
Like the river - make sure someone else isn't doing the same thing you
are - coming the opposite way...... It happens.
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