---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/10/06: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (geoffthis) 2. 10:50 AM - first Post (Jason Omelchuck) 3. 11:08 AM - Re: first Post (John Hauck) 4. 11:43 AM - trim tab (john s. flannery) 5. 12:35 PM - New 6 Gals. tanks (Noel Bouchard) 6. 02:40 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (TheWanderingWench) 7. 03:01 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (Ralph Hoover) 8. 03:08 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (Ralph Hoover) 9. 05:39 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (Noel Bouchard) 10. 05:46 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (Noel Bouchard) 11. 05:58 PM - FW: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (Kolbdriver) 12. 06:28 PM - Re: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (Larry Bourne) 13. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (Denny Rowe) 14. 06:48 PM - New 6 Gals. tanks (Noel Bouchard) 15. 07:04 PM - Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (grabo172) 16. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (Jim Baker) 17. 07:19 PM - Re: New 6 Gals. tanks (Richard Pike) 18. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list (ElleryWeld@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list From: "geoffthis" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "geoffthis" First post March 16, 1998 - finished Firestar II in '99 and bent it 50 hrs later...about to start the rebuild. No really hope to be flying next summer... Geoff Thistlethwaite Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=66909#66909 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:36 AM PST US From: "Jason Omelchuck" Subject: Kolb-List: first Post April of 96, I had questions about ordering kits 2 and 3 and what were the largest tires I could get. The funny thing is I still remember getting the "after market" tires via ups and opening the box. I think that was half the fun of building; getting items via UPS and having Christmas come many times a year, and it was exactly what I wanted! Jason MKIII C BMW R100 2 hours and now with a 2 bay lexan trim tab she flies straight. Thanks John H for all the testing and recommendations on what works. It really takes allot of the "what if I tried this" out of it and allows me to fix it and move on. This list is also very comforting in that I know that that foot full of left rudder I needed was my Kolb flying just like a Kolb does. Next on the agenda is move the rods in on the aileron horn to try to make it lighter in roll (thank you Mr Pike). ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:08:10 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: first Post --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Hauck" Jason MKIII C BMW R100 Jason: Where are you located? How many BMW powered Kolbs do we have out there? Yes, I am interested in BMW power. Always have been, even though I have a new 912ULS sitting on the bench waiting on time to get it installed on the mkIII. I think I related to the group about interdicting Mike Richardson and his BMW powered mkIII a few minutes south of Henderson, Ky. He has the fuel injected version. Looked good. How are the BMW's doing? You guys getting any time on them? Making in cross country flights? Is everyone using a Rotax C gearbox? What kind of performance figures are you all getting? Would a BMW conversion be practical for a long distance cross country flight on a Kolb? I'm curious. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:20 AM PST US From: "john s. flannery" Subject: Kolb-List: trim tab Flew the Mark III without the gigantic rudder trim tab, and it felt docile. Rudders seemed okay though I go a little wiggly extending landing down a 7200' runway to save taxiing. Guess the red tab will become scrap aluminum. jsf do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:48 PM PST US From: Noel Bouchard Subject: Kolb-List: New 6 Gals. tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: Noel Bouchard Hell all ! I have installed 2 new gas tanks bought from TNK co. and wanted to share my findings with the group ... These are the new 6 US gallons ones. The first thing i noticed is that they are made of a quite thin plastic ... much thinner than what i had before. After fitting the pickup fitting i changed all the fuel lines to black auto fuel line. I use a type made by Gates which their catalog says it is suitable for gaz "and other petoleum distilates" A friend of mine used exactly the same type of lines on it's 582 without any poblem and the lines we're as strong after 5 years ... On the clearance side ... The thanks are about 2 inches taller ... it is a tight fit in my Twinstar Mk II but the thank do not interfere with the aileron controls ... but the starting rope rubs a bilt against the thank near the cap which may cause a problem in the long run ... I may have to fit some sort of guide to avoid this ... Overall, i am quite pleased by the result having gained 2 gallons or a good 40 minutes more endurance with my 503 DC ... I just hope the tank will prove to be stong enough over time ... Nol Twinstar MK II -- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:29 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New 6 Gals. tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: TheWanderingWench Noel - Would you post info about TNK - how to contact them as well as the item # for the tanks? Also, what color are the tanks? The standard red, or opaque white or...? Thanks, Arty --- Noel Bouchard wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Noel Bouchard > > > Hell all ! > > I have installed 2 new gas tanks bought from TNK co. > and wanted to share my findings with the group ... > > These are the new 6 US gallons ones. The first > thing i noticed > is that they are made of a quite thin plastic ... > much thinner than > what i had before. > > After fitting the pickup fitting i changed all the > fuel > lines to black auto fuel line. I use a type made by > Gates which their > catalog says it is suitable for gaz "and other > petoleum distilates" > A friend of mine used exactly the same type of lines > on it's 582 without > any poblem and the lines we're as strong after 5 > years ... > > On the clearance side ... The thanks are about 2 > inches taller ... > it is a tight fit in my Twinstar Mk II but the > thank do not interfere > with the aileron controls ... but the starting rope > rubs a bilt against > the > thank near the cap which may cause a problem in the > long run ... > I may have to fit some sort of guide to avoid this > ... > > Overall, i am quite pleased by the result having > gained 2 gallons or a good > 40 minutes more endurance with my 503 DC ... > I just hope the tank will prove to be stong enough > over time ... > > Nol > Twinstar MK II > > > > -- > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > Web Forums! > > > Admin. > > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:06 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New 6 Gals. tanks From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" "O" Noel, you didn't have the "O" in "Hello". They would eat you for lunch, for such a discrepancy. You are 100 % correct on the gas tank wall thickness. It still works well even when flipped over with plane, as I have done. The walls do vacuum in a bit when they drain at high speed (as in pumped out with Facet pump directly to a reserve tank, no resistance). But they hold up quite well. I believe they can use that tank because the wall interiority is connected to the fact that they are contained within a structure and have a metal frame around them, as in my Firestar. The bottom wall is a bit thinner than I would like as I use both the Facet and the Rotax mechanical pump discharging from the bottom, verses the strainer suction weighted tube hanging down inside. At least for me, the rubber expansive inserts work well and have held up without leaking. Even when I inverted my Kolb abruptly with a full tank. You might want to apply a trick that Planecrazzy used to draw air from a point lower than the tank. You would then have to close off any air intake on top or in the cap and use a hole, possibly in that small nozzle with the cap on the other side of the top. No one thinks of being inverted until they are. But the other good side of the tube going below is that rain and splashed weather wont enter your tank Ohio Ralph Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67018#67018 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New 6 Gals. tanks From: "Ralph Hoover" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Ralph Hoover" Sorry, I meant to say "integrity ! Ohio Ralph DO NOT ARCHIVE! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67020#67020 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:34 PM PST US From: Noel Bouchard Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New 6 Gals. tanks ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:10 PM PST US From: Noel Bouchard Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New 6 Gals. tanks ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:32 PM PST US From: "Kolbdriver" Subject: FW: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" Fist Post on the Kolb List April 27, 1997. Who administered the list at that time? The Striplings??? Mike Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:28 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Can't remember for sure. Think it was majordomo or somesuch when I signed on. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolbdriver" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:58 PM Subject: FW: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Kolbdriver" > > > Fist Post on the Kolb List April 27, 1997. > > Who administered the list at that time? The Striplings??? > > Mike > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:18 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Denny Rowe" > Can't remember for sure. Think it was majordomo or somesuch when I signed > on. Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Palm Springs, CA > Building Kolb Mk III > Vamoose > www.gogittum.com Lar, Now that you mention it, I remember the majordomo deal. Can't remember if I was a member than or not but I recall the @majordomo.com Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:23 PM PST US From: Noel Bouchard Subject: Kolb-List: New 6 Gals. tanks ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:39 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list From: "grabo172" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "grabo172" About 15 minutes... :D Just registered tonight, but have been lurking and learning soooo much from this list. I just bought my first Kolb Firestar about 2 months ago. I would have loved to build one, but I haven't the space to. Heck I barely have a space to keep it. It's tucked away in its trailer at the airport until I can find a hangar home for it here in Charleston. So everytime I fly, it's the whole unfold and fold when done. (can't wait for a hangar!) Just by reading this list, I have a "To Do" List about a mile lng on my little bird and can't wait to get started fine tuning and tweaking her. And when I do finally get some space, I'm going to shoot for a MKIIIX... Ahh dreams! -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67061#67061 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:00 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" > Now that you mention it, I remember the majordomo deal. > Can't remember if I was a member than or not but I recall the @majordomo.com Majordomo was a moniker used for almost all open source mailing list administrators. T'wasn't a person's handle or anything like that.... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:48 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New 6 Gals. tanks --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" Frustrating, isn't it? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) (do not archive) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Bouchard" Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: Kolb-List: New 6 Gals. tanks > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:26 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: How Long have YOU been on the Kolb list Erik I fold and unfold alone every time I fly once you get a system figured out you will be fine trust me, I really dont like help especially getting it unfolded I like to know the pins are in the correct direction and saftyed it screws up my system with help and takes longer save your money for fuel and fly often You have a portable hangar there Ellery in a Firestar do not archive