---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/26/06: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:20 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (pat ladd) 2. 05:16 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (chris davis) 3. 06:18 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (Larry Bourne) 4. 07:01 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (John Jung) 5. 07:31 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (pat ladd) 6. 07:56 AM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (George T. Alexander, Jr.) 7. 10:23 AM - Re: Re: FS II for sale (Chris Mallory) 8. 10:52 AM - Re: Trailer Jacks (George Alexander) 9. 12:03 PM - Max EGT (Larry Cottrell) 10. 12:24 PM - Original firestar seat (1) (Roy Spangler) 11. 01:22 PM - Re: MK III X 582 TO 912ULS CONVERSION (Cat36Fly@aol.com) 12. 01:43 PM - Re: Original firestar seat (1) (Richard Pike) 13. 02:02 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (George Thompson) 14. 02:03 PM - Re: MK III X 582 TO 912ULS CONVERSION (Jim Ballenger) 15. 03:32 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (planecrazzzy) 16. 04:55 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (Larry Bourne) 17. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: Vamoose For Sale (Larry Bourne) 18. 05:14 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (Robert Laird) 19. 05:16 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (Larry Bourne) 20. 06:43 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (ron wehba) 21. 08:03 PM - Big Lar, "You did it!" (Bob Dalton) 22. 08:04 PM - Re: Vamoose For Sale (Larry Bourne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:41 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:08 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Larry , We are not friends but I have been reading your posts for a few years and i am going to miss you! and whoever buys Vamoose will get a hell of a deal.Good luck with the new job .Chris DAvis Larry Bourne wrote: OK, it's official. I listed Vamoose on Barnstormers today. I listed the plane itself for $12,500.00, with no engine or reduction drive. This price includes the gull wing doors, tall spring steel landing gear, heavy duty tapered roller wheel bearings, 8:00 tires, Narco aircraft radio, transponder and altitude encoder. The engine is listed separately for $2500.00, and is a 2110cc high performance VW with electronic wasted spark ignition and computer controlled fuel injection. To the best of my knowledge, the engine is great, and started every time I hit the ignition. Engine price includes Warp Drive 3 bladed 72" prop, My problems were with the reduction drive, that now lives at the Palm Springs city dump. The engine is mounted and I would prefer to sell it with the plane, but if necessary I could separate them. I also have an enclosed trailer for it that needs a little work on the modified front end, and have listed the trailer for $2500.00. A complete description of Vamoose is online at: http://www.biglar.homestead.com/BUILDINGVAMOOSE.html A combination of factors brought this about. The primary one is that I've just lost interest, and not just in Vamoose. In the first 6 years that I had my pilot's license, I flew over 300 hours in rental planes. In the last 5 years, just 30 hours. The flightseeing tour at Bella Coola, B.C. this summer got me jazzed for a bit, but it fell flat again. Second, I've just accepted a position as Director of Engineering at a luxury hotel in Santa Fe, NM and 1) I'm not going to have much, if any, time for hobbies for quite a while, and 2) I'm just not up for dragging it along and trying to find a place to store it, let alone work on it. I don't really think that awful redrive was much of a factor, tho' it surely did p..... me off big time. That's mechanical and was poorly designed from the get go, and I think I gave it a helluva go. I'm very thankful it caused its' problems on the ground. I still enjoy the Kolb List and my many friends here, and figure on keeping on with it, Vamoose or no. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:32 AM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Thanks, Chris. I'll still be around. The Kolb List has been a great source of entertainment for me over the past 8 years and I've made many friends here. I hope it sells soon - I'm leaving in 3 weeks. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: chris davis To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Larry , We are not friends but I have been reading your posts for a few years and i am going to miss you! and whoever buys Vamoose will get a hell of a deal.Good luck with the new job .Chris DAvis Larry Bourne wrote: OK, it's official. I listed Vamoose on Barnstormers today. I listed the plane itself for $12,500.00, with no engine or reduction drive. This price includes the gull wing doors, tall spring steel landing gear, heavy duty ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose For Sale From: "John Jung" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "John Jung" Congratulations on the new job, Larry. -------- John Jung Firestar II N6163J Surprise, AZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70313#70313 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:48 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:19 AM PST US From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Pat: Second blank you have fired today. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat ladd Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:49 AM PST US From: "Chris Mallory" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: FS II for sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Chris Mallory" Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:57 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FS II for sale > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" > > Where is the trailer located...? > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70212#70212 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:52:16 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Trailer Jacks From: "George Alexander" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "George Alexander" Dave Pelletier wrote: > Guys, > > A few of you asked for pics of my trailer jack set up. > > > > AzDave > > Do Not Archive > Kolbers/Kolbettes: With Dave's permission, I have added pictures of his trailer arrangement to the section of my web site "Trailering a Kolb". These pictures feature his trailer jack and the wing support system inside the trailer. Go to: http://gtalexander.home.att.net and click on the link "Trailering a Kolb" Also added a link to Big Lar's page and am working on adding another Kolbers trailer. If any of the rest of you want your stuff up there, let me know. -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70377#70377 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:36 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: Max EGT Hi, Just a follow up on this thread. A lot of you contributed ideas as to my problem. The main thing was that the only change was the prop, so it figures that is where the difference came in. I have been trying to get the wiring mess under control so that I can move forward on my certificate and have had a lot of company so betweens the two haven't been a big mover lately. I also had some concern as to the two tanks not drawing the same. ( back tank higher when flying, so it appears to draw more) I changed the EIS aux pick up to the rear tank, and that fixed the problem. I also had some concern as to my fuel burn. ( it was upwards of 4 or more gallons an hour) To fix that I put my "silencer" back on and put a 148 main jet back in the carb. That caused me to have some EGT temps over 1250 on midrange. To fix that I turned in another degree of pitch to the prop. I just got back from a flight that was 1 hour and 35 minutes, two takeoffs, three climbs to 1000 feet AGL. ( I had to check some ponds for ducks for Jessie.) I burned 4 gallons of fuel. My WOT was 6250, I cruised at 56 to 5700 with an average speed of about 63 MPH. I did have a bit of higher egt temps on one of my landings when I got in the 4000 RPM range, but I just throttled back more and they dropped. Didn't seem to need that much power any way. The OAT was in the 20's when I took off. I am at a bit of a loss as to why I cannot wind the engine up to 6500 and keep my temps in range as they were with the same carb set up but a IVO prop. However when I talked to Daryl at Warp he hinted that things would be a bit different due to the difference in the prop design. Thanks for the help Larry ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:20 PM PST US From: Roy Spangler Subject: Kolb-List: Original firestar seat (1) --> Kolb-List message posted by: Roy Spangler To all, I have a firestar that has had the original web/sling seat replaced with a fiberglass seat that doesn't allow my 6' 2" frame to fit correctly. I would like to acquire one from someone out there that has one sitting around. roy 'enjoy reading the questions and answers on this site! -- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:04 PM PST US From: Cat36Fly@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 TO 912ULS CONVERSION Jim; I'm very happy to see you back in the air. However, go easy with those new performance numbers as some of us are still using the 582. Actually, I'm green with envy. Fly Safe Larry Tasker Any feel yet for how long your legs are going to be now? Should use less fuel and as I recall you have 20 gal. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:16 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Original firestar seat (1) --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Richard Pike" Do you just need the webbing, and not the steel? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Spangler" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Original firestar seat (1) > --> Kolb-List message posted by: Roy Spangler > > To all, > > I have a firestar that has had the original web/sling seat replaced with a > fiberglass seat that doesn't allow my 6' 2" frame to fit correctly. I > would like to acquire one from someone out there that has one sitting > around. > > > roy > > 'enjoy reading the questions and answers on this site! > > > -- > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:33 PM PST US From: "George Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale What a shock!, But I know where you are coming from. I had felt that way about some of my Kolbs and didn't even have the problems that you have had. I was proud that you were able to squeeze into My Firestar II and experience the thrill of low and slow flight along with seeing lots of wild life. Hope to see you in MV next year and I might be able to see you in Santa Fe sometime. Az Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bourne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale OK, it's official. I listed Vamoose on Barnstormers today. I listed the plane itself for $12,500.00, with no engine or reduction drive. This price includes the gull wing doors, tall spring steel landing gear, heavy duty tapered roller wheel bearings, 8:00 tires, Narco aircraft radio, transponder and altitude encoder. The engine is listed separately for $2500.00, and is a 2110cc high performance VW with electronic wasted spark ignition and computer controlled fuel injection. To the best of my knowledge, the engine is great, and started every time I hit the ignition. Engine price includes Warp Drive 3 bladed 72" prop, My problems were with the reduction drive, that now lives at the Palm Springs city dump. The engine is mounted and I would prefer to sell it with the plane, but if necessary I could separate them. I also have an enclosed trailer for it that needs a little work on the modified front end, and have listed the trailer for $2500.00. A complete description of Vamoose is online at: http://www.biglar.homestead.com/BUILDINGVAMOOSE.html A combination of factors brought this about. The primary one is that I've just lost interest, and not just in Vamoose. In the first 6 years that I had my pilot's license, I flew over 300 hours in rental planes. In the last 5 years, just 30 hours. The flightseeing tour at Bella Coola, B.C. this summer got me jazzed for a bit, but it fell flat again. Second, I've just accepted a position as Director of Engineering at a luxury hotel in Santa Fe, NM and 1) I'm not going to have much, if any, time for hobbies for quite a while, and 2) I'm just not up for dragging it along and trying to find a place to store it, let alone work on it. I don't really think that awful redrive was much of a factor, tho' it surely did p..... me off big time. That's mechanical and was poorly designed from the get go, and I think I gave it a helluva go. I'm very thankful it caused its' problems on the ground. I still enjoy the Kolb List and my many friends here, and figure on keeping on with it, Vamoose or no. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 10/26/2006 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:05 PM PST US From: "Jim Ballenger" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 TO 912ULS CONVERSION Larry It is good to be back in the air. Last Sunday was an overcast morning and no wind. A great day to test what the plane and engine could do. I set the engine at 5000 rpm and it just flew as level as any plane I've flown including the spam cans. Of course it would only fly a few seconds without any corrections, it wants to roll very slightly to the left but I felt very comfortable. The plane and engine are a great combination. I really don't know how long I will fly between pit stops but I'm thinking around two hours at fuel flow of 5.25 gph. I'm not sure the old body or bladder will take much more than that. You're right I have 20 gallons on board. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Cat36Fly@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MK III X 582 TO 912ULS CONVERSION Jim; I'm very happy to see you back in the air. However, go easy with those new performance numbers as some of us are still using the 582. Actually, I'm green with envy. Fly Safe Larry Tasker Any feel yet for how long your legs are going to be now? Should use less fuel and as I recall you have 20 gal. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:32:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose For Sale From: "planecrazzzy" --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" Holy Cow Big Lar.... Now what am I gonna do with my T- Shirt that sez I Beat "Big Lar" in the air... It just kinda looses it's bite now...... I think you shoulda threw a 582 on it and went and had some fun.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70439#70439 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:30 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Pat, the posts I'm getting from you are blank. Is anyone else having this problem ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "pat ladd" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:31 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:36 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose For Sale --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" Aw, yer makin' me feel bad, Mike. Maybe you oughta buy it, then your shirt could read, "I beat Big Lar into the air with his OWN PLANE." Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:31 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose For Sale > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "planecrazzzy" > > Holy Cow Big Lar.... > > Now what am I gonna do with my T- Shirt that sez > > I Beat "Big Lar" in the air... > > It just kinda looses it's bite now...... > > I think you shoulda threw a 582 on it and went and had some fun.... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > . > . > . > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=70439#70439 > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:21 PM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Yes, everyone is having that problem. Pat, I guess, is just the strong, silent type. Maybe he's a John Wayne fan? ;-) -- Robert On 10/26/06, Larry Bourne wrote: > > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Larry Bourne" > > Pat, the posts I'm getting from you are blank. Is anyone else having this > problem ?? Do not Archive. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:34 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Can't hardly believe it myself, George, but it's time. I did enjoy the ride in your little plane, and I squoze into the back of Larry Cottrell's FS II, too, and we saw game on both trips, and I got cramps on both trips, too. That's OK. They were fun flights. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale What a shock!, But I know where you are coming from. I had felt that way about some of my Kolbs and didn't even have the problems that you have had. I was proud that you were able to squeeze into My Firestar II and experience the thrill of low and slow flight along with seeing lots of wild life. Hope to see you in MV next year and I might be able to see you in Santa Fe sometime. Az Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bourne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale OK, it's official. I listed Vamoose on Barnstormers today. I listed the plane itself for $12,500.00, with no engine or reduction drive. This price includes the gull wing doors, tall spring steel landing gear, heavy duty tapered roller wheel bearings, 8:00 tires, Narco aircraft radio, transponder and altitude encoder. The engine is listed separately for $2500.00, and is a 2110cc high performance VW with electronic wasted spark ignition and computer controlled fuel injection. To the best of my knowledge, the engine is great, and started every time I hit the ignition. Engine price includes Warp Drive 3 bladed 72" prop, My problems were with the reduction drive, that now lives at the Palm Springs city dump. The engine is mounted and I would prefer to sell it with the plane, but if necessary I could separate them. I also have an enclosed trailer for it that needs a little work on the modified front end, and have listed the trailer for $2500.00. A complete description of Vamoose is online at: http://www.biglar.homestead.com/BUILDINGVAMOOSE.html A combination of factors brought this about. The primary one is that I've just lost interest, and not just in Vamoose. In the first 6 years that I had my pilot's license, I flew over 300 hours in rental planes. In the last 5 years, just 30 hours. The flightseeing tour at Bella Coola, B.C. this summer got me jazzed for a bit, but it fell flat again. Second, I've just accepted a position as Director of Engineering at a luxury hotel in Santa Fe, NM and 1) I'm not going to have much, if any, time for hobbies for quite a while, and 2) I'm just not up for dragging it along and trying to find a place to store it, let alone work on it. I don't really think that awful redrive was much of a factor, tho' it surely did p..... me off big time. That's mechanical and was poorly designed from the get go, and I think I gave it a helluva go. I'm very thankful it caused its' problems on the ground. I still enjoy the Kolb List and my many friends here, and figure on keeping on with it, Vamoose or no. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 10/26/2006 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:21 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale hey Lar, you gonna move closer to these here "rattlers" ron in tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Bourne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Thanks, Chris. I'll still be around. The Kolb List has been a great source of entertainment for me over the past 8 years and I've made many friends here. I hope it sells soon - I'm leaving in 3 weeks. Lar. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: chris davis To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:15 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Larry , We are not friends but I have been reading your posts for a few years and i am going to miss you! and whoever buys Vamoose will get a hell of a deal.Good luck with the new job .Chris DAvis Larry Bourne wrote: OK, it's official. I listed Vamoose on Barnstormers today. I listed the plane itself for $12,500.00, with no engine or reduction drive. This price includes the gull wing doors, tall spring steel landing gear, heavy duty ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:36 PM PST US From: "Bob Dalton" Subject: Kolb-List: Big Lar, "You did it!" Larry, As a member of the "Big Lar Fan Club" I dedicate this "Vamoose is Flying" picture to you my friend. I knew you could do it! Good Luck with your new job, keep in touch. Bob Dalton ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:05 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale Well, yah, but seems like I never catch you at home. I t'ink you're avoiding me. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Palm Springs, CA Building Kolb Mk III Vamoose www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: ron wehba To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Vamoose For Sale hey Lar, you gonna move closer to these here "rattlers" ron in tx.