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     0. 12:12 AM - Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
     2. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: New windshield (Jim Dunn)
     3. 10:38 AM - Facet pump installation (UNCLASSIFIED) (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     4. 10:51 AM - Re: Kolb Training Question (Ed Chmielewski)
     5. 11:13 AM - Re: Kolb Training Question (Chris Wolf)
     6. 12:39 PM - Columbus, NM fly-in w/ lunch in Palomas Mexico (WillUribe@aol.com)
     7. 01:26 PM - Re: Repairman ELSA / Facet pump (Cat36Fly@aol.com)
     8. 01:57 PM - Re: Facet pump (David Key)
     9. 02:16 PM - 2007 Monument Valley? (TheWanderingWench)
    10. 03:18 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (Larry Cottrell)
    11. 04:12 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (John Hauck)
    12. 04:24 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (Dave & Eve Pelletier)
    13. 05:16 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (George Thompson)
    14. 06:02 PM - My first Kolb (David Key)
    15. 06:21 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (Kolbdriver)
    16. 06:36 PM - Re: 2007 Monument Valley? (Larry Bourne)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New windshield | 
      
      
      I need a full enclosure for my Firefly.  Do you think yours would work for
      me?
      
      Thanks,
      Jim
      N. Idaho
      
      
      >
      > Re: full enclosure.  I have a Mark III Classic velcro and vinyl
      > enclosure that came with my kit.  I will never use it.  Make offer.  Vic
      
      
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| Subject:  | Facet pump installation (UNCLASSIFIED) | 
      
      
      Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
      Caveats: NONE
      
      Lanny Fetterman asked: << install a facet fuel pump in parallel with 
      the mechanical pump. If anyone has ... any suggestions before I start
      this project, I would appreciate the help. I read that the pump should
      be placed below the level of the fuel tanks, Is it best to wire it to
      the ignition 
      switch so it runs all the time, as suggested by one of the other pilots 
      taking the course, or a toggle switch? Lanny Fetterman >>
      
      Hi, Lanny -
      
      Kolb List members are somewhat split in opinions for how to install the
      Facet pump.  Some like 'em parallel, some like 'em in series with the
      mech pump.  The archives are full of Kolb Members' personal opinions for
      the benefits of either installation.  Personally, I plumbed mine in
      series and have had zero problems.  Advantages are, fewer connections to
      potentially cause a problem.  The Facet is designed to allow fuel to
      continue flowing thru it when it is off or failed.  Although I have
      heard one story of a Facet pump blocking the fuel flow when it failed,
      this was the exception, not the rule.
      
      I also followed Richard Pike's advice to keep the Facet pump running all
      the time while flying.  Given that this pump boasts an average
      mean-time-between-failure rate of tens of thousands of hours, you are
      not really "saving" any potential pump life by leaving it off.  Mine has
      an on-off switch, and I only turn it off during my runup, to ensure the
      mech pump is still working. After that, I turn it back on, and leave it
      on for the entire flight. 
      
      Dennis Kirby
      Mark-III, 912ul, 59.8 hrs
      Cedar Crest, NM
      
      
      Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
      Caveats: NONE
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kolb Training Question | 
      
      
      Hi Chris,
      
              Good luck on the purchase.  You can't find much better than a Kolb 
      IMHO.
      
              Flying the bird prior to buying it is nice and all, but I'd much 
      rather a competent (UL-savvy) A&P do a thorough check of it, first and 
      foremost.  He might find that one little thing that would change your mind 
      about flying it right away.  And if his inspection goes well, you'll have 
      much more peace of mind on any flying and the ultimate purchase.
      
              Best to ya,
      
      Ed in JXN (MI)
      MkII/503
      Do not archive.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Chris Wolf" <cwolf41@comcast.net>
      Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:26 PM
      Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Training Question
      
      
      >
      >
      > I've got my eye on a used Kolb Mark III Xtra that I'm interested in 
      > buying.
      > Normally I'd just go look at the airplane, the owner and I would test fly
      > it, and if I liked it, I'd buy it.
      (Snip)
      >
      > Thanks for any suggestions!
      >
      > Chris Wolf
      > cwolf41@comcast.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Kolb Training Question | 
      
      
      On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:49:55 -0500, Ed Chmielewski wrote:
      
      >
      >Hi Chris,
      >
      >Good luck on the purchase.  You can't find much better than a Kolb 
      >IMHO.
      
      That's what I keep hearing.  I want the plane primarily for flightseeing,
      and I understand that the Kolb is one of the best.  And I want good folding
      wings, which the Kolb seems to have.
      
      Originally I had planned to get a Zenith 701.  Fine little airplane, but I
      don't like the way the wings fold, the view doesn't seem quite as nice, and
      the cockpit seems a little small for anyone over six feet tall (like me).
      I hear the Mark III Xtra has an extra-large cockpit to accommodate larger
      pilots.
      
      >Flying the bird prior to buying it is nice and all, but I'd much 
      >rather a competent (UL-savvy) A&P do a thorough check of it, first and 
      >foremost.  He might find that one little thing that would change your mind 
      >about flying it right away.  And if his inspection goes well, you'll have 
      >much more peace of mind on any flying and the ultimate purchase.
      
      That's an excellent point.  But I'd always heard that A&Ps didn't have much
      to do with ultralights.  Has that changed?  If so, is there any good way to
      go about finding such an expert?  Thanks!
      
      Chris Wolf
      cwolf41@comcast.net
      
      
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| Subject:  | Columbus, NM fly-in w/ lunch in Palomas Mexico | 
      
      Sunday I flew about 3 hours round trip from El Paso, TX to Columbus,  NM. in 
      my FireStar II.
      
      20 airplanes attended including a Kolb, Challenger and a slow X-Air.  On our 
      return trip the turbulence was so brutal at 5000' we  climbed to 9,000' and 
      found smother air.
      
      
      In 1916 Pancho Villa attacked Columbus in  New Mexico, so President Woodrow 
      Wilson ordered  troops into Mexico to capture Villa. The  expedition pursued 
      him for eleven months but was ultimately  unsuccessful.
      
      We were shuttled, by the restaurant's van, across the border for  lunch.
      do not archive
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Repairman ELSA / Facet pump | 
      
      Congrat's on the new certificate! I'm getting ready to perform my  first 
      annual on my MKlllX.
      
      I installed both the mechanical fuel pump and an electric Fawcet in line  
      with one another. The electric is on a toggle switch from my electric panel  
      (battery) with a fuse in line. I can fly with both fuel pumps running (Takeoff)
      
      or just the mechanical (cruising). I also use the pump as a primer on startup 
      
      (no squeeze bulb) along with the choke. I start the fuel pump when I get in 
      the  AC and start my cockpit checks  so it has time to fill the carbs. Even  
      after setting for a couple of weeks the engine fires up with little  problem.
      This arrange simplifies the plumbing, eliminates potential leaks and has  
      worked without any problems for 50+ hrs.
      
      Good Luck
      Larry Tasker
      MKlllX 582
      N615RT
      
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      I noticed too that when I start the engine after a while of not running that 
      it starts quicker if I run the fuel pump and choke it. I'm pretty sure it 
      has to do with empty fuel lines and the distance from the tank to the carbs.
      
      When I'm in cruise and the electric fuel pump is on I noticed that the fuel 
      flow meter is higher than when the electric fuel pump is off. I don't know 
      what happens to the extra fuel... but I keep it off in case it is 
      conserving.
      
      David Key
      Mark III Xtra, 912uls
      N952DK
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      Hi Kolbers -
      
      Will there be another Monument Valley Kolb fly-in in
      2007?  Same weekend in May as this year, or...?
      
      I had such a great time flying there and hanging out
      with you Kolbers that I want to do it again - en route
      to Texas.  (Why Texas?  Seems like a good place to fly
      to on a long cross-country.)
      
      It may be way too early for many of you to be thinking
      about next spring, but I'm trying to get a head start
      on my work schedule. And I need lots of time to
      sweet-talk my honey into my being gone a month - which
      is how long I figure it will take me to get to Texas
      and back to Oregon.
      
      I've already started talking with a few ultralight
      buddies (Larry - are you listening?) about making the
      flight with me.  I know that Will Aribe, John Hauck
      and others fly these incredible distances on their
      own, but I'm a chicken-hearted pilot and want at least
      one other pilot flying with me.
      
      Anyway - let me know if there's already some thinking
      going on about re-convening in MV next year, and if
      the thinking hasn't started, when it might.
      
      Hoping to see you Kolbers again -
      
      Arty Trost
      Maxair Drifter
      Sandy, Oregon 
      
      www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
      
      "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
                            Helen Keller
      
      "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      Yes, I am listening, and Karen is thinking that it might be fun. That of 
      course means that I am allowed to think that way as well. :-) So far it 
      looks good.
      Larry, Oregon
      do not archive
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "TheWanderingWench" <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
      
      > Will there be another Monument Valley Kolb fly-in in
      > 2007?  Same weekend in May as this year, or...?
      >
      > I've already started talking with a few ultralight
      > buddies (Larry - are you listening?) about making the
      > flight with me. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      
      | 2007?  Same weekend in May as this year, or...?
      
      |
      | Arty Trost
      
      Hi Arty:
      
      If folks  show up we will have a MV Flyin.
      
      Last year we did it on the third weekend of May.   That worked out 
      good, one week after Mother's Day and week prior to Memorial Day.  We 
      usually have good weather during that time frame.
      
      I propose we do it the same weekend and I plan to be there.
      
      Take care,
      
      john h
      mkIII
      
      DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      > If folks  show up we will have a MV Flyin.
      > 
      > Last year we did it on the third weekend of May.   That worked out 
      > good, one week after Mother's Day and week prior to Memorial Day.  We 
      > usually have good weather during that time frame.
      > 
      > I propose we do it the same weekend and I plan to be there.
      > 
      > Take care,
      > 
      > john h
      
      Sounds good to me.  MAN LAW???
      
      AzDave
      
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      Sounds good to Me. I Plan to be there.
         Az Bald Eagle
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:11 PM
      Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2007 Monument Valley?
      
      
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Hi Arty:
      >
      > If folks  show up we will have a MV Flyin.
      >
      > Last year we did it on the third weekend of May.   That worked out
      > good, one week after Mother's Day and week prior to Memorial Day.  We
      > usually have good weather during that time frame.
      >
      > I propose we do it the same weekend and I plan to be there.
      >
      > Take care,
      >
      > john h
      > mkIII
      >
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE
      >
      >
      > -- 
      >
      > 
      
      
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      My first Kolb is on Ebay now! Long time no see. It hasn't changed at all. 
      The hours are even lower. Good plane!!
      
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kolb-Mark-III-Ultralight-Trainer-Aircraft-Parts_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63722QQihZ004QQitemZ140048314681QQrdZ1
      
      David Key
      Kolb Mark III Xtra 912uls
      N952DK
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      Man Law!
      
      I recon I have to change my signature now.... I sure hope lar doesn't have
      to sell... ;-(
      
      Mike
      Oak Grove Missouri
      Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
      Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
      Started with Big Lar still behind... 
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave & Eve
      Pelletier
      Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:24 PM
      Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2007 Monument Valley?
      
      <pelletier@cableone.net>
      
      > If folks  show up we will have a MV Flyin.
      > 
      > Last year we did it on the third weekend of May.   That worked out 
      > good, one week after Mother's Day and week prior to Memorial Day.  We 
      > usually have good weather during that time frame.
      > 
      > I propose we do it the same weekend and I plan to be there.
      > 
      > Take care,
      > 
      > john h
      
      Sounds good to me.  MAN LAW???
      
      AzDave
      
      > DO NOT ARCHIVE 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2007 Monument Valley? | 
      
      
      Man Law.........??  Whassat ??  Yah, I'm having serious 2nd thoughts, so if 
      it doesn't sell soon, may just haul it to Santa Fe with me.  We'll see. 
      Yup, I agree with the date for MV '07, too.  Sounds good. 
      Lar.                    Do not Archive.
      
      Larry Bourne
      Palm Springs, CA
      www.gogittum.com
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
      Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:21 PM
      Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 2007 Monument Valley?
      
      
      >
      > Man Law!
      >
      > I recon I have to change my signature now.... I sure hope lar doesn't have
      > to sell... ;-(
      >
      > Mike
      > Oak Grove Missouri
      > Mark III Classic (one of the last of Old Kolb) - 0hrs
      > Suzuki G13B 1.3L - 0hrs
      > Started with Big Lar still behind...
      > Do not archive 
      
      
 
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