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1. 06:57 AM - Re: ELSA inspection (pat ladd)
2. 07:12 AM - Re: Kolb Glide Ratio (UNCLASSIFIED) (pat ladd)
3. 10:05 AM - Fuel Tank... (David Lehman)
4. 10:21 AM - Re: Kolb Glide Ratio (UNCLASSIFIED) (chris davis)
5. 11:03 AM - Fall Color From a Kolb (John Williamson)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: ELSA inspection (APilot@webtv.net)
7. 11:30 AM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (David Lehman)
8. 05:39 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (TheWanderingWench)
9. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: UltraStar Value? (russ kinne)
10. 07:04 PM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (Dave Bigelow)
11. 07:05 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (Steven Green)
12. 07:16 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (R. Hankins)
13. 07:20 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (R. Hankins)
14. 08:08 PM - Re: Fuel Tank... (Richard Girard)
15. 08:11 PM - Re: ELSA inspection (Richard Girard)
16. 08:19 PM - Re: Fuel Tank... (David Lehman)
17. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: UltraStar Value? (Eugene Zimmerman)
18. 08:21 PM - Re: ELSA inspection (David Lehman)
19. 08:31 PM - Re: ELSA inspection (Richard Girard)
20. 08:41 PM - ELSA inspection/Wing Inspections (John Hauck)
21. 08:47 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (John Hauck)
22. 09:20 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (FS2Kolb@aol.com)
23. 11:32 PM - Re: Fuel Tank... (jerb)
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA inspection |
Just curious, what would I look at in my MkIII wing if I did have an
inspection port?>>
Good question. But when you decide what you want to look at then you can put
an inspection panel right there. I think that if I was worried about bees
nesting or hiving or whatever in the wing I would shake it EVERY flight.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Glide Ratio (UNCLASSIFIED) |
I fly the best looking plane there is, a Kolb mkIII.>>
Oh John, sorry that I can`t support you on this. The Kolb is many things
but beauty ain`t one of them. Pretty in their super paint jobs? Sure.
Useful in their flying performances? Yep. Reliable? Pretty much. But then
the question wss about beauty not performance and usefulness.
There is nothing more beautiful in the air than a modern high performance
sailplane. The smooth, airodynamic fuselage. The long thin, gently
undulating wing. Even the not so modern designs have a grace and clarity of
line that no Kolb can match. A glider seen, not from the ground but from
another glider is one of the most beautiful sights the eye can behold.
I can remember the time that I would have poured scorn on any flying machine
with an engine. I have mellowed in my old age and I wouldn`t swap my Kolb
for a sailplane now, but I still haven`t changed my mind about the sheer
simple, classic, unsurpassable, beauty of a sailplane.
Cheers
Pat
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>
> Looking for ideas for an early Firestar large fuel tank... I have a 6
> gal. tank mounted forward of the engine (above the engine/wing mount tube)
> and I'd like to have another 10-12 gals. for the rare occasions that I'm a
> long way from a station... The area of the cage where the original tank
> resided is not shaped to install over-the-counter tanks, other than a 5-6
> gal.container...
>
Thanx...
DVD
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Glide Ratio (UNCLASSIFIED) |
Pat I'm with you on that one !!!!!!!!Chris Davis
I fly the best looking plane there is, a Kolb mkIII.>>
Oh John, sorry that I can`t support you on this. The Kolb is many things
but beauty ain`t one of them. Pretty in their super paint jobs? Sure.
Useful in their flying performances? Yep. Reliable? Pretty much. But then
the question wss about beauty not performance and usefulness.
There is nothing more beautiful in the air than a modern high performance
sailplane. The smooth, airodynamic fuselage. The long thin, gently
undulating wing. Even the not so modern designs have a grace and clarity of
line that no Kolb can match. A glider seen, not from the ground but from
another glider is one of the most beautiful sights the eye can behold.
I can remember the time that I would have poured scorn on any flying machine
with an engine. I have mellowed in my old age and I wouldn`t swap my Kolb
for a sailplane now, but I still haven`t changed my mind about the sheer
simple, classic, unsurpassable, beauty of a sailplane.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Fall Color From a Kolb |
This is as good as the color gets in my part of Texas.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA inspection |
Inspection plates. I looked at an uncovered Kolb wing and made a note of
where I would like to see after covering. I now have about 10
inspection plates. So far, everything looks the same. Still a little
shaking is a good idea as part of a preflight.
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
Where's the mountains?... ;-)
Nice picture, can't beat a Kolb for a camera platform...
DVD
On 11/12/06, John Williamson <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
>
> This is as good as the color gets in my part of Texas.
>
> --------
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolbra, 912ULS
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
John's pics are great, and I'm probably going to get
hounded off the list - (I know I'm here on sufferance
since I don't fly a Kolb) - but I have to correct the
statement "can't beat a Kolb for a camera platform."
Take a look at the Maxair Drifter and the Air Cam.
There's a reason they are the "camera platforms" of
choice for National Geographic photographers -
unlimited visibility for 180 around you and nothing
whatsoever above you. Take off the nosepod and there's
not much in front or below you either!! :>)
An unabashed Drifter fan -
Arty Trost
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--- David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
> Where's the mountains?... ;-)
>
> Nice picture, can't beat a Kolb for a camera
> platform...
>
> DVD
>
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar Value? |
none of these will show 0n my Mac! -- but thanx anyway
On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote:
> <emzi@supernet.com>
>
> planecrazzzy wrote:
>> <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>> You really should tell the engine size....maybe the Hobbs reading....
>> Maybe instruments.... ( EIS ? )
>> a picture or two would help estimate it's value....
>
> Look here !! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rsanoa/album?.dir=/e28ere2
>
> Do Not Archive ~ Earl
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
I have the HKS mounted on the Firestar, and am working on hooking things up. The
ignition modules and coils are mounted on the aircraft frame (not on the engine).
There is also an oil tank and oil radiator to mount.
The engine is beautifully engineered and looks right sitting there on the Firestar.
The final gearbox will be the 2.58:1 B Box mounted down. The A Box (mounted
up) in the pictures will be replaced. The thrust line is too high with that
setup. I plan on using the same 66 inch two blade Powerfin prop that I used
with the Rotax 503. Looks like the fuselage boom clearance will be about one
inch.
The engine had to be mounted forward enough so the exhaust manifold pipes clear
the aileron torque tubes and control horn when folding and unfolding the wings.
This will require a prop spacer to give adequate prop clearance from the aileron
torque tubes when flying.
Jerry Olenik from Green Sky Aviation has been working closely with me throughout
this project. He plans on offering a mounting kit for the Firestar after we
finalize the installation and do the test flights.
I'm hoping to test fly it shortly after the first of the year.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
Here.
SG
do not archive
Where's the mountains?... ;-)
Nice picture, can't beat a Kolb for a camera platform...
DVD
On 11/12/06, John Williamson <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net> wrote:
kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
This is as good as the color gets in my part of Texas.
--------
John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
Arty,
The Kolb will get to picture altitude sooner! Here are a couple of fall pics and
one of you and your flamed-out drifter. One picture is of the Rogue River
just downstream from my place, the other is from my trip to France two weeks ago.
Cool flame job!
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
Let me try again with the pics.
--------
Roger in Oregon
1992 KXP 503
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank... |
David, Have you considered a composite tank built to fit exactly where you
want?
Rick
On 11/12/06, David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
>
> Looking for ideas for an early Firestar large fuel tank... I have a 6
> > gal. tank mounted forward of the engine (above the engine/wing mount tube)
> > and I'd like to have another 10-12 gals. for the rare occasions that I'm a
> > long way from a station... The area of the cage where the original tank
> > resided is not shaped to install over-the-counter tanks, other than a 5-6
> > gal.container...
> >
>
>
> Thanx...
>
> DVD
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA inspection |
The two main things I would recommend looking for inside the wing would be
signs of corrosion and "smoking" or otherwise failing rivets.
Rick
On 11/12/06, APilot@webtv.net <APilot@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>
> Inspection plates. I looked at an uncovered Kolb wing and made a note of
> where I would like to see after covering. I now have about 10
> inspection plates. So far, everything looks the same. Still a little
> shaking is a good idea as part of a preflight.
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank... |
Yes Rick, that's where I'm headed... I was hoping that I didn't have to
"reinvent the wheel/tank" if there was already something out there that
would work...
Thanx...
DVD
do not archive
On 11/12/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> David, Have you considered a composite tank built to fit exactly where yo
u
> want?
>
> Rick
>
> On 11/12/06, David Lehman < david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
> >
> > Looking for ideas for an early Firestar large fuel tank... I have a 6
> > > gal. tank mounted forward of the engine (above the engine/wing mount
tube)
> > > and I'd like to have another 10-12 gals. for the rare occasions that
I'm a
> > > long way from a station... The area of the cage where the original t
ank
> > > resided is not shaped to install over-the-counter tanks, other than a
5-6
> > > gal.container...
> > >
> >
> >
> > Thanx...
> >
> > DVD
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> > www.aeroelectric.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List*
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Rick Girard
> "Ya'll drop on in"
> takes on a whole new meaning
> when you live at the airport.
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: UltraStar Value? |
The page downloads fine on my Mac. Your problem is most likely not
your Mac but something to do with Yahoo Photos and your particular
browser settings. Are you using Safari for your web browser?
On Nov 12, 2006, at 9:34 PM, russ kinne wrote:
>
> none of these will show 0n my Mac! -- but thanx anyway
>
> On Nov 9, 2006, at 10:35 PM, Earl & Mim Zimmerman wrote:
>
>> <emzi@supernet.com>
>>
>> planecrazzzy wrote:
>>> <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
>>> You really should tell the engine size....maybe the Hobbs
>>> reading....
>>> Maybe instruments.... ( EIS ? )
>>> a picture or two would help estimate it's value....
>>
>> Look here !! http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rsanoa/album?.dir=/e28ere2
>>
>> Do Not Archive ~ Earl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA inspection |
And if you live close to fields, mouse nests, they love fabric wings...
DVD
do not archive
On 11/12/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The two main things I would recommend looking for inside the wing would be
> signs of corrosion and "smoking" or otherwise failing rivets.
>
> Rick
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ELSA inspection |
They also seem to love wiring. My girl friend parked her Hyundai Sante Fe
when she came home from work one Thursday night and when I wnet to drive it
the next morning the check engine light was on an the engine was running
very rough. Little vermin took out the primary and secondary fuel injector
harnesses.
Rick
On 11/12/06, David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
>
> And if you live close to fields, mouse nests, they love fabric wings...
>
> DVD
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On 11/12/06, Richard Girard <jindoguy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The two main things I would recommend looking for inside the wing would
> > be signs of corrosion and "smoking" or otherwise failing rivets.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > *
>
>
> *
>
>
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"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | ELSA inspection/Wing Inspections |
| The two main things I would recommend looking for inside the wing
would be
| signs of corrosion and "smoking" or otherwise failing rivets.
|
| Rick
Rick:
Primarily, I would look for broken 5/16" tube braces on the leading
edge of the wing. These lateral braces keep the main rib noses in
column. If they shift, they will fail. The inboard rib nose braces
are fabric braces, not leading edge braces. The bowtip is not a
leading edge brace.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
| Where's the mountains?... ;-)
|
DVD:
Here's a couple, but no Fall colors. Well.........actually, no trees.
john h
mkIII
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Fall Color From a Kolb |
Arty,
I would like to see some pictures you have taken from you drifter.
In a message dated 11/12/2006 6:40:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
thewanderingwench@yahoo.com writes:
John's pics are great, and I'm probably going to get
hounded off the list - (I know I'm here on sufferance
since I don't fly a Kolb) - but I have to correct the
statement "can't beat a Kolb for a camera platform."
Take a look at the Maxair Drifter and the Air Cam.
There's a reason they are the "camera platforms" of
choice for National Geographic photographers -
unlimited visibility for 180=B0 around you and nothing
whatsoever above you. Take off the nosepod and there's
not much in front or below you either!! :>)
An unabashed Drifter fan -
Arty Trost
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Tank... |
What's the max size you can handle (LxWxH) - a Challenger 10 gal tank
might work?
jerb
At 12:04 PM 11/12/2006, you wrote:
>Looking for ideas for an early Firestar large fuel tank... I have a
>6 gal. tank mounted forward of the engine (above the engine/wing
>mount tube) and I'd like to have another 10-12 gals. for the rare
>occasions that I'm a long way from a station... The area of the
>cage where the original tank resided is not shaped to install
>over-the-counter tanks, other than a 5-6 gal.container...
>
>
>Thanx...
>
>DVD
>
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