Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/14/06


Total Messages Posted: 30



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     1. 02:49 AM - Re: half doors (APilot@webtv.net)
     2. 06:12 AM - Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb (Thom Riddle)
     3. 06:28 AM - Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb (David Lehman)
     4. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: Az. Dave (RICHARD BUTLER)
     5. 06:55 AM - Re: Az. Dave (TheWanderingWench)
     6. 06:58 AM - Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb (Richard Pike)
     7. 07:05 AM - Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-)  (russ kinne)
     8. 07:31 AM - Re: Az. Dave (David Lehman)
     9. 07:44 AM - See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color (Eugene Zimmerman)
    10. 07:44 AM - See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color (Eugene Zimmerman)
    11. 07:44 AM - See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color (Eugene Zimmerman)
    12. 07:55 AM - Firestar Fuel Tank (Edward Bonsell)
    13. 08:04 AM - Re: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color (Eugene Zimmerman)
    14. 08:28 AM - Re: Az. Dave (Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft))
    15. 08:31 AM - Re: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color (Eugene Zimmerman)
    16. 08:39 AM - Re: Vamoose (chris davis)
    17. 08:40 AM - Re: Az. Dave (George Thompson)
    18. 09:03 AM - Re: Firestar Fuel Tank (David Lehman)
    19. 09:40 AM - Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-)  (Matt Dralle)
    20. 11:47 AM - Re: Az. Dave (John Hauck)
    21. 12:11 PM - Re: Fall Color From a Kolb (TheWanderingWench)
    22. 12:34 PM - Re: Az. Dave (George Bass)
    23. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: Az. Dave (Bob Noyer)
    24. 03:30 PM - re- AZ DAVE farewell picture (Arksey@aol.com)
    25. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: Az. Dave (George Thompson)
    26. 04:24 PM - Re: Re: Az. Dave (RICHARD BUTLER)
    27. 05:08 PM - Re: Az. Dave (Roger Lee)
    28. 05:18 PM - Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) ( (Craig Nelson)
    29. 07:21 PM - Re: Az. Dave (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    30. 08:21 PM - Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:49:53 AM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: half doors
    I took Richard's advice and made 1/2 doors for my Mark III Classic. I flew it with the half door on the pilot side and no door on the other side. It worked out really good for taking pictures and there is almost no wind hitting me. Thanks Richard.


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    Time: 06:12:34 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb
    .... Last year I got to fly an original Firestar that was under 300 pounds, maybe even part 103 legal. It felt about the same way.... Richard Pike..... Richard, I used to own an early Firestar but have never flown a MkIII. Was the above statement comparing the Firestar to the MkIII or the Hummer? Never having flown a Hummer either I'm trying to figure out which airplane's handling characteristics are similar to the early Firestar. There may be other Kolbers who have flown one type but not the other and might like to know too. Thanks in advance for your clarification. Attached are a few photos taken on Oct 7 on my flight to Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome near Kingston, NY. Anyone in that area during the summer should take the time to see their antique airs how on weekends. They have a good website with videos of several of their antiques flying. If I've mentioned this before, forgive my aging memory. http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/ Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 06:28:10 AM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb
    OK, I picked on the Texans about the "mountains", so where's the concrete in the NY pictures?... They have trees in NY?... ;-) I know there's brands X, Y & Z, but the pictures I enjoy the most come from "brand" Kolb... Thanx Thom... DVD On 11/14/06, Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> wrote: > > > .... Last year I got to fly an original Firestar that was under 300 > pounds, maybe even part 103 legal. It felt about > the same way.... Richard Pike..... > > > Richard, > I used to own an early Firestar but have never flown a MkIII. Was the > above statement comparing the Firestar to the MkIII or the Hummer? > Never having flown a Hummer either I'm trying to figure out which > airplane's handling characteristics are similar to the early Firestar. > There may be other Kolbers who have flown one type but not the other > and might like to know too. > > Thanks in advance for your clarification. > > Attached are a few photos taken on Oct 7 on my flight to Old Rhinebeck > Aerodrome near Kingston, NY. Anyone in that area during the summer > should take the time to see their antique airs how on weekends. They > have a good website with videos of several of their antiques flying. If > I've mentioned this before, forgive my aging memory. > > http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/ > > > Thom in Buffalo >


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    Time: 06:45:13 AM PST US
    From: "RICHARD BUTLER" <richardbutlers@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    I heard the news this AM while driving to work from Rimrock to Sedona...I could not believe it! I 1st met Dave and Eve 2 years ago at MV and have many fine pictures taken from Dave's plane...that and his hospitality at the Pauldin fly ins is how I will remember him. What an asset to the sport and mankind! I know he is flying high now! We are all here for you eve. Richard Butler Rimrock ----- Original Message ----- From: jimhefner<mailto:hefner_jim@msn.com> To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Az. Dave <hefner_jim@msn.com<mailto:hefner_jim@msn.com>> I am in shock and disbelief hearing the news of this tragedy this evening! Dave was one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. He would go out of his way to help anyone that need it. He even offered to drive down to Tucson from Prescott with his BAMH and pull my trailer and plane to MV in 2004, the year of my divorce when I didn't have a vehicle to pull it and he wasn't taking his plane there that year. That was typical Dave and he was dead serious. He had a wonderful sense of humor and really made an impression on my new wife and daughter with his kidding and laughter. Our deepest sympathy and condolences to Eve. Rest in peace my friend. You will be sorely missed by all that knew you! -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74410#74410<http://forums.m atronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74410#74410> www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.kitlog.com<http://www.kitlog.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List<http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Kolb-List>


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    Time: 06:55:50 AM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    When Doug (Sky Raider) and I (Maxair Drifter) flew into Gouldings, MV this past May, we wondered if we'd gotten the dates wrong - the airstrip looked deserted from a distance. As we got closer we saw a single long white trailer - and a beautiful Kolb being unloaded. Arizona Dave was the first Kolber we met, and his instant warmth an friendliness let us know this was going to be a great weekend. I remember spending time with him, Eve and George, sharing Cherry Garcia ice cream in their motor home, talking about flying, motorcycling, and being human. Lots of memories of him and Eve packed into a short time. Although I didn't know him very long or well, I feel his loss acutely. I was so looking forward to reconnecting with him in MV in 2007 - I envy those of you who knew him well. Arty --- George Thompson <eagle1@commspeed.net> wrote: > Dave was killed this morning when his Kolb went down > with another man. Both were killed instantly. Many > of the Kolb flyers on this list knew him and his > wife Eve from M V. > It would be nice if you could send condolences > to his wife. > Mrs. Eve Pelletier > 1134 Fair St. > Prescott, Az. 86305 > > Az. Bald Eagle www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 06:58:07 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb
    The Firestar reminded me of the Hummer, light wing loading, sort of floaty, the feel that you were flying something that was just wafting along on the wind. What is it that Beauford calls it, the tissue plane? I forget. The MKIII feels light compared to a spam can, but it doesn't float so much as it slices through what the Firestar sort of floated through. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thom Riddle" <jtriddle@adelphia.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fall Color From a KolbFall Color From a Kolb > > .... Last year I got to fly an original Firestar that was under 300 > pounds, maybe even part 103 legal. It felt about > the same way.... Richard Pike..... > > > Richard, > I used to own an early Firestar but have never flown a MkIII. Was the > above statement comparing the Firestar to the MkIII or the Hummer? > Never having flown a Hummer either I'm trying to figure out which > airplane's handling characteristics are similar to the early Firestar. > There may be other Kolbers who have flown one type but not the other > and might like to know too. > > Thanks in advance for your clarification. > > Attached are a few photos taken on Oct 7 on my flight to Old Rhinebeck > Aerodrome near Kingston, NY. Anyone in that area during the summer > should take the time to see their antique airs how on weekends. They > have a good website with videos of several of their antiques flying. If > I've mentioned this before, forgive my aging memory. > > http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/ > > > Thom in Buffalo > >


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    Time: 07:05:21 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution
    Yet! :-) Matt I need your snailmail address -- On Nov 8, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its > because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! > This is the first PBS-like funds drive message under the new > distribution system. The new system selectively sends out the > Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol > credit card this year to support the continued operation and > upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked > that way? :-) > > You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these > support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming > to your personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited > about the new feature. I've wanted to implement something like > this for a number of years now, but it was always such a daunting > task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept > putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the > bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few > days later, bam! A working system! > > Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and > every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. > It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and > software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also > goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection and to pay > the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and > the air conditioner powered up. > > Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other > Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up > and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the > Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other > commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I > particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. I'm > pretty sure you don't either. > > If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the > Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it > that way!! > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Thank you! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > >


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    Time: 07:31:14 AM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    This morning's FAA preliminary report: ******************************************************************************** ** Report created 11/14/2006 Record 1 ** ******************************************************************************** IDENTIFICATION Regis#: 2031S Make/Model: KOLB Description: KOLB ULTRALIGHT Date: 11/13/2006 Time: 1720 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Destroyed LOCATION City: PAULDEN State: AZ Country: US DESCRIPTION ACFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD WERE FATALLY INJURED, PAULDEN, AZ INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2 # Crew: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: WEATHER: METAR 00000KT 10SM CLR 06/M03 A3017 OTHER DATA Activity: Pleasure Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER Departed: PAULDEN, AZ Dep Date: Dep. Time: Destination: Flt Plan: Wx Briefing: Last Radio Cont: Last Clearance: FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date: 11/14/2006 DVD do not archive


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    Time: 07:44:14 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color
    Apple-Mail-51-528232498--


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    Time: 07:44:40 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color
    Apple-Mail-54-528254942 Apple-Mail-55-528254946 Apple-Mail-56-528254949--


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    Time: 07:44:50 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color
    Apple-Mail-59-528269299 Apple-Mail-60-528269303--


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    Time: 07:55:50 AM PST US
    From: "Edward Bonsell" <ebonsell@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Firestar Fuel Tank
    Friends, This is my first post to the list in a long time. I have an original Firestar. Built it in 1986 & 87. Flew it until 2000 when it suffered an unfortunate event. I started to rebuild it but job, family, mistakes, ect. got in the way and I had to shelve it. I now have more time so I got it out and dusted it off. I hope to have it back in the air in 2007. I'll post some stories and photo's of some of our great trips we had around here, (SE PA). I'm also interested in a Firestar fuel tank conversion. I replaced the original 5 gallon tank with an 8 gallon tank the from the auto racing industry. It's heavy, barely fits, and I was never really happy with it. I hope to replace it with something better. I'm also looking for MK II in good condition. Does anyone know of one for sale? I'm sorry to hear about Dave. We have lost several pilots around here. Two due to engine failure on take off leading to a stall/spin. One of which tried to turn around and go back to the field. A third due to unsafe flying techniques. Please be careful out there. Sincerely, Ed Bonsell


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    Time: 08:04:12 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color
    OOOPS! Looks like I did something wrong. I try again later. On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Apple-Mail-59-528269299 > Apple-Mail-60-528269303-- > >


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    Time: 08:28:13 AM PST US
    From: "Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft)" <travis@tnkolbaircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    This is such A loss to our Kolb family. I never had the privilege of meeting Dave in person,but did talk with him on the phone several times.It was always such A pleasure to hear his happy cheerful voice.Our sincere condolences to the families Kolb Aircraft ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Dave was killed this morning when his Kolb went down with another man. Both were killed instantly. Many of the Kolb flyers on this list knew him and his wife Eve from M V. It would be nice if you could send condolences to his wife. Mrs. Eve Pelletier 1134 Fair St. Prescott, Az. 86305 Az. Bald Eagle


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    Time: 08:31:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: See'm fly at Rheinebeck -was fall color
    From: "Eugene Zimmerman" <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    See'm fly at Rheinbeck Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74529#74529 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/9_961.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/8_212.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/7_730.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/6_299.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/5_628.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_924.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_115.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_893.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_118.jpg


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    Time: 08:39:46 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Vamoose
    Larry Glad you made that choice ! it will all work out Good luck and please stay on the list and keep us informed and entertained . Chris Davis Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: Too bad I didn't get around to saying this a day earlier....... I pulled the ad for Vamoose off Barnstormers last week, and when I get set up here in NM, I'll figure out a way to bring airplane and boat both back to Santa Fe. Not quite sure what I'll do for an engine yet, but that troublesome reduction drive is long ago in the trash, so's I can't be tempted again. Sorry, Dave - I wish you could've seen it fly. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:40:54 AM PST US
    From: "George Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    I just talked to Marsha at the EAA headquarters.Dave's wife, Eve told me that she would rather have donations made to the EAA Young Eagles program than flowers You can send checks to phone#1 800 564 6322 EAA Aviation Center PO Box 3086 Oshkosh Wisconsin 54906 Put on the check, For the Dave Pelletier memorial. His wife's name is Eve for those of you who do not know, at 1134 Fair St. Prescott, Az. 86305 Funeral arrangements are still to be made, but she told me that she is going to have him buried in Arlington National Cemetery. I am going to miss Dave very much as he was my closest friend here in Prescott. George Thompson Az. Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Eve says she does not want any more flowers. Dave's passion was Kids. He was very much into the Young Eagles program.She requests that you make all donations to the EAA Young Eagles Program in Dave's name. I will get a phone number and E mail address tomorrow.Thanks for your concern. Az. Bald Eagle ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lehman To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Here's more information, so sad... 11/13/2006 5:37:00 PM Email this article - Print this article Two people die in light aircraft crash near Paulden Accident is third area plane crash in 10 weeks By MIRSADA BURIC The Daily Courier PRESCOTT - A Prescott pilot and a passenger died Monday morning when an experimental/light sport aircraft crashed near Pilots Rest Airstrip in Paulden, about five miles west of Highway 89. David Arthur Pelletier, 68, and his passenger Michael Francis Maikowski, 54, of Kent, Wash., didn't show any signs of life when first responders arrived. A Falcon Way resident called 911 at 10:27 a.m. to report the crash after she and her husband saw the Kolb MK3 wreckage in their driveway. Sally Strickland-McAleenan and Ken McAleenan said they didn't see the actual crash, but they heard a loud noise. After Strickland-McAleenan reported the crash, she rushed to help the victims. "There was absolutely no life in there," she said. "It is so sad." She remained on the scene until the first Chino Valley Fire engine arrived, she said. A couple of other witnesses were in the area, she said, and they told her that they saw the plane flying northwest toward nearby mountains, and as it made a turn it dove into the ground. Strickland-McAleenan said she and her husband were familiar with the aircraft because Pelletier often flew in the area. According to Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor, the aircraft took off from the airstrip branching off Falcon Way. Strickland-McAleenan said, "This is a grandfathered airstrip. It has been there since the World War II" when the military used it to practice touch and go landings and take-offs, she said. "Most of the people like the airstrip and use it quite often." As he watched authorities remove the bodies from the wreckage, Paulden resident Ron Stoks said, "It looks like a hard hit." Stoks heard of the crash from a friend and rushed to the scene to see it for himself. He said he knew Pelletier for 10 years. "He just got a sport-pilot license," said Stoks, who also owns an experimental aircraft. "He was flying a lot here. He had fun giving rides." Because his friend was safety-minded, Stoks said, he wouldn't board the plane if he thought that it had a mechanical problem. A few days before the October air show at the Prescott Airport, Stoks said, he and Pelletier flew in the DC3 with William "Billy" Friedman, a 40-year pilot who died in the Oct. 18 plane crash that also killed four other people on board. Coincidently, Friedman saw the Sept. 2 plane crash that killed two adults and a teenager near the Pi=F1on Oaks subdivision in Prescott. The National Transportation Safety Board is still investigating the previous two incidents. Gregor said a Scottsdale-based FAA crew and NTSB will investigate this incident also. Contact the reporter at mburic@prescottaz.com DVD On 11/13/06, George Thompson <eagle1@commspeed.net> wrote: Dave was killed this morning when his Kolb went down with another man. Both were killed instantly. Many of the Kolb flyers on this list knew him and his wife Eve from M V. It would be nice if you could send condolences to his wife. Mrs. Eve Pelletier 1134 Fair St. Prescott, Az. 86305 Az. Bald Eagle href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 11/12/2006 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 11/12/2006


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    Time: 09:03:42 AM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: Firestar Fuel Tank
    Welcome back Ed... I'm going to try a Titan 10 gal. tank this weekend... My Firestar is like yours, '80s, so I'll let the group know if it works... DVD do not archive On 11/14/06, Edward Bonsell <ebonsell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Friends, > > This is my first post to the list in a long time. I have an original > Firestar. Built it in 1986 & 87. Flew it until 2000 when it suffered an > unfortunate event. I started to rebuild it but job, family, mistakes, ect. > got in the way and I had to shelve it. I now have more time so I got it out > and dusted it off. I hope to have it back in the air in 2007. I'll post some > stories and photo's of some of our great trips we had around here, (SE PA). > I'm also interested in a Firestar fuel tank conversion. I replaced the > original 5 gallon tank with an 8 gallon tank the from the auto racing > industry. It's heavy, barely fits, and I was never really happy with it. I > hope to replace it with something better. I'm also looking for MK II in good > condition. Does anyone know of one for sale? > I'm sorry to hear about Dave. We have lost several pilots around here. > Two due to engine failure on take off leading to a stall/spin. One of which > tried to turn around and go back to the field. > A third due to unsafe flying techniques. > Please be careful out there. > > Sincerely, > > Ed Bonsell >


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    Time: 11:47:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Hi Folks: Was looking through some old photos and came across this one. It was a dark dreary day at Birchwood Airport, Alaska. The more I looked at it, the more I thought it an appropriate way to say farewell to my ole bud, AZ Dave. Farewell friend. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74566#74566 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/farewell_az_dave_138.jpg


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    Time: 12:11:05 PM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Fall Color From a Kolb
    I know this is a Kolb list - but a request is a request - right? :>) To keep it as Kolb-related as possible, three of these 5 shots were taken on the way to/at the Kolb MV fly-in in May 2006. (I flew there in my Maxair Drifter from Sandy, Oregon with a buddy flying his Sky Raider.) I sometimes choose to include part of the Drifter in the photo, as I've done with one of these - but when I do so, I have to twist and turn for the shot. Arty Trost --- FS2Kolb@aol.com wrote: > > Arty, > I would like to see some pictures you have taken > from you drifter. www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 12:34:01 PM PST US
    From: "George Bass" <gtb@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    Kolbers: I too knew Dave Pelletier. Although my visits to the USUA Chapter #555 (that he had become president of) were simply memories, the influence, and the inspiration that he brought to the organization was part of the energy that kept it going. It has been some time since I've been able to get to a meeting, but, to show you how GIVING this person was, he had actually encouraged me to fly his old Firestar, after he got the 2-place. How many others would even have considered GIVING another the joy of flying their prize toy, never having seen me fly, nor having spoken to anyone we knew, of my capabilities. He instilled trust and safety, and encouraged many who would not have otherwise flown. My heart aches this day. I will be among those who remember the examples he set, for all of us to follow, and share with others. Prayers and condolences for Eve, and envy of the time she had with Dave. My sympathies to George Thompson, as well, George Bass


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    Time: 02:58:35 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    Perfect, John. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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    Time: 03:30:07 PM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: re- AZ DAVE farewell picture
    Hi Folks: Was looking through some old photos and came across this one. It was a dark dreary day at Birchwood Airport, Alaska. The more I looked at it, the more I thought it an appropriate way to say farewell to my ole bud, AZ Dave. Farewell friend. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Yes John a good farewell picture. jim swan firestar ll michigan do not archive


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    Time: 03:46:55 PM PST US
    From: "George Thompson" <eagle1@commspeed.net>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    Thanks John, That was nice. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Az. Dave > > Hi Folks: > > Was looking through some old photos and came across this one. > > It was a dark dreary day at Birchwood Airport, Alaska. > > The more I looked at it, the more I thought it an appropriate way to say > farewell to my ole bud, AZ Dave. > > Farewell friend. > > -------- > John Hauck > MKIII/912ULS > hauck's holler, alabama > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74566#74566 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/farewell_az_dave_138.jpg > > > -- > >


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    Time: 04:24:41 PM PST US
    From: "RICHARD BUTLER" <RICHARDBUTLERS@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    Photo E-mail Play slideshow<http://photos.msn.com/Viewing/Album.aspx?PST=8nK2AN1B!1LmPLmC 9HXTYwxc1VPOuBcbtNsS50ibyoP!V7bHM2Asg4769OAi6z7FN7tiW809PFDmbxGy0eFEpA%24 %24> | Download images <http://photos.msn.com/viewing/Photos.aspx?pi_Type=SlideshowTask&Task= Download&stppData=&pi_ImagesOnly=1&Folder=nBuRgwTGIGhKPWRvXLqz1CTQX yL6bqt*md7sGsDCogA%24&User=LJjObqfwa74Uwc5F8IouiKZvNRUblFzh&pi_NoLogin= 1> I have about 10 of Dave I took ...one from 2 yras ago in M Valley AZ of a leg of our trip. R Butler Rimrock<http://photos.msn.com/Viewing/Album.aspx?PST=8nK2AN1B!1LmPLmC9H XTYwxc1VPOuBcbtNsS50ibyoP!V7bHM2Asg4769OAi6z7FN7tiW809PFDmbxGy0eFEpA%24%2 4> 2005 from Dave's Kolb ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson<mailto:eagle1@commspeed.net> To: kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:46 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Az. Dave <eagle1@commspeed.net<mailto:eagle1@commspeed.net>> Thanks John, That was nice. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com<mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com>> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com<mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Az. Dave <jhauck@elmore.rr.com<mailto:jhauck@elmore.rr.com>> > > Hi Folks: > > Was looking through some old photos and came across this one. > > It was a dark dreary day at Birchwood Airport, Alaska. > > The more I looked at it, the more I thought it an appropriate way to say > farewell to my ole bud, AZ Dave. > > Farewell friend. > > -------- > John Hauck > MKIII/912ULS > hauck's holler, alabama > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74566#74566<http://forums.m atronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74566#74566> > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/farewell_az_dave_138.jpg<http://forums matronics.com//files/farewell_az_dave_138.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.kitlog.com<http://www.kitlog.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List<http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Kolb-List> This MSN Photo E-mail slideshow will be available for 30 days. To share high quality pictures with your friends and family using MSN Photo E-mail, join MSN<http://g.msn.com/0PHenus1/29>.


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    Time: 05:08:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi All, This is truly a sad, sad day. This hits really close to home. I first met Dave at MV and then down here in Tucson. Dave had been talking to me about purchasing my Kolb. Dave and I had talked numerous times on the phone for an hour. A really nice guy. I will really miss him. Roger Tucson, Az. Here is a picture of the accident that was posted in the local newspaper. Double click the picture and it will open up and be more clear. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74623#74623 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/scan0001_521.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/scan0001_447.jpg


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    Matt Dralle Please check I am getting this e mail. I don't care about the e mail but I have concerns that I did e mail my credit card $100 for the list contribution and did not credit it to my e mail address Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) Russ et al, Please snail mail your List Contribution to: Matt Dralle/Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 USA Be sure to include your email address along with your check! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator At 07:00 AM 11/14/2006 Tuesday, you wrote: > >Matt >I need your snailmail address -- > >On Nov 8, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > >> >>If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its >>because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! >>This is the first PBS-like funds drive message under the new >>distribution system. The new system selectively sends out the >>Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol >>credit card this year to support the continued operation and >>upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked >>that way? :-) >> >>You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these >>support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming >>to your personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited >>about the new feature. I've wanted to implement something like >>this for a number of years now, but it was always such a daunting >>task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept >>putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the >>bullet and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few >>days later, bam! A working system! >> >>Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and >>every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. >>It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and >>software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also >>goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection and to pay >>the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and >>the air conditioner powered up. >> >>Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other >>Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up >>and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the >>Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other >>commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I >>particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. I'm >>pretty sure you don't either. >> >>If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the >>Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it >>that way!! >> >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >>Thank you! >> >>Matt Dralle >>Matronics Email List Administrator >> >> >> >> >> > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft


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    Time: 07:21:20 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Az. Dave
    In a message dated 11/13/2006 6:31:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, eagle1@commspeed.net writes: Dave was killed this morning when his Kolb went down with another man. Both were killed instantly. Many of the Kolb flyers on this list knew him and his wife Eve from M V. It would be nice if you could send condolences to his wife. Mrs. Eve Pelletier 1134 Fair St. Prescott, Az. 86305 Az. Bald Eagle Eve, George, and others, Just met Dave this year and got to know him. He was a swell Guy. What a loss, He will be missed. Eve will be in our prayers! Ed Diebel


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    Craig.Nelson(at)heraeus.c wrote: > Matt Dralle > Please check I am getting this e mail. I don't care about the e mail but > I have concerns that I did e mail my credit card $100 for the list > contribution and did not credit it to my e mail address > Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com > -- Craig, Well, this particular post *response* is kind of an exception to the Squelch. Without waxing to geek, when I send out a Fund Raiser message, I include a special email header that flags the email as a Contribution message so when it gets processed by the Matronics system, it is only sent to people that haven't yet made a Contribution. This special header isn't kept when the message is redistributed by the system, however, so any subsequent replies to my original message will go to everyone. I checked the records, and your generous Contribution was successfully received and recorded. Thank you! The Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74662#74662




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