---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/15/06: 39 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 04:52 AM - LOC (Matt Dralle) 1. 02:13 AM - Dave (pat ladd) 2. 06:20 AM - Re: Az. Dave (WillUribe@aol.com) 3. 06:24 AM - Re: Az. Dave () 4. 06:49 AM - Re: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) (Bob Green) 5. 07:30 AM - Re: Az. Dave (George Thompson) 6. 07:43 AM - Re: Az. Dave (RICHARD BUTLER) 7. 08:19 AM - Re: Az. Dave (George Thompson) 8. 08:42 AM - Mark-II for sale (UNCLASSIFIED) (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 9. 09:45 AM - Re: Az. Dave (RICHARD BUTLER) 10. 10:03 AM - Re: Az. Dave (Gherkins Tim-rp3420) 11. 01:08 PM - Re: Az. Dave (jimhefner) 12. 01:36 PM - Re: Cockpit Noise (David Lucas) 13. 01:53 PM - Re: Re: Cockpit Noise (Richard Pike) 14. 01:59 PM - Check out Low and slow - Google Video (WillUribe@aol.com) 15. 02:26 PM - Teat (possums) 16. 02:47 PM - Re: Az. Dave (WillUribe@aol.com) 17. 02:54 PM - Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video (N111KX (Kip)) 18. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Cockpit Noise (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 19. 03:07 PM - Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video (John Williamson) 20. 03:08 PM - Re: Az. Dave (Bob Noyer) 21. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Cockpit Noise (APilot@webtv.net) 22. 03:26 PM - Re: Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video (John Hauck) 23. 03:28 PM - Re: Az. Dave (George Thompson) 24. 03:34 PM - Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video (Larry Cottrell) 25. 03:41 PM - Re: Az. Dave (Bob Noyer) 26. 03:48 PM - Re: Vamoose (planecrazzzy) 27. 04:30 PM - For Dave (Bob Dalton) 28. 04:38 PM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (Dave Bigelow) 29. 04:44 PM - Re: For Dave (ron wehba) 30. 04:52 PM - Re: For Dave (david@davidlehman.net) 31. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (John Hauck) 32. 08:36 PM - Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (John Hauck) 33. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (HShack@aol.com) 34. 08:39 PM - My Kind of Airport (John Hauck) 35. 08:42 PM - Early Days of Cross Country Flying (John Hauck) 36. 08:44 PM - FS 1989 (John Hauck) 37. 08:53 PM - Re: For Dave (TheWanderingWench) 38. 09:04 PM - Re: My Kind of Airport (Bob Noyer) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:55 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: LOC Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:54 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Dave Nice one John. I shall miss Daves posts although I never had the good fortune to meet him.. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:00 AM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave _Click here: Monument_Valley_2005.wmv - Google Video_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2591281788974632563) I too am sadden by the loss of a brother in flight. Some of us met AZ. Dave at Monument Valley. Here is an 8 min video from the flight line at MV 2005. Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/) Do not archive http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2591281788974632563 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:44 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Does anyone know what engine Dave was flying under? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:02 AM PST US From: "Bob Green" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! :-) Will do. Thanks for the lists. Bob Please snail mail your List Contribution to: Matt Dralle/Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 USA Be sure to include your email address along with your check! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator At 07:00 AM 11/14/2006 Tuesday, you wrote: > >Matt >I need your snailmail address -- > >On Nov 8, 2006, at 3:11 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > >> >>If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its >>because you haven't yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! >>This is the first PBS-like funds drive message under the new >>distribution system. The new system selectively sends out the >>Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol >>credit card this year to support the continued operation and >>upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked >>that way? :-) >> >>You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these >>support requests messages during November will suddenly stop coming >>to your personal email inbox! Pardon me if I seem kind of excited >>about the new feature. 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I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the >>Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other >>commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet these days and I >>particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site. I'm >>pretty sure you don't either. >> >>If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the >>Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it >>that way!! >> >>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >>Thank you! >> >>Matt Dralle >>Matronics Email List Administrator >> >> >> >> >> > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:30:33 AM PST US From: "George Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave 582 with two up at 4300 ft. George ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Does anyone know what engine Dave was flying under? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 11/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:07 AM PST US From: "RICHARD BUTLER" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave George do you really mean 4300 feet? R Butler Rimrock ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave 582 with two up at 4300 ft. George ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Does anyone know what engine Dave was flying under? href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comwww.aeroelectric.comhref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">w ww.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.comhref=" http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http://www.mat ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-L ist> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 11/14/2006 www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:35 AM PST US From: "George Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave That's our field elevation. ----- Original Message ----- From: RICHARD BUTLER To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave George do you really mean 4300 feet? R Butler Rimrock ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave 582 with two up at 4300 ft. George ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Does anyone know what engine Dave was flying under? href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Date: 11/14/2006 href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com title=http://www.buildersbooks.com/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 11/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Mark-II for sale (UNCLASSIFIED) From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Edward Bonsell asked: << I'm also looking for MK II in good condition. Does anyone know of one for sale? >> Ed - There is one currently posted on Barnstormers, located in Columbia, MD. 503-powered, owned by Larry Johnson, priced at $14,900. Dennis Kirby New Mexico Do not archive Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:18 AM PST US From: "RICHARD BUTLER" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Thanks for my clarification George. R Butler ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave That's our field elevation. ----- Original Message ----- From: RICHARD BUTLER To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave George do you really mean 4300 feet? R Butler Rimrock ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. 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Dave From: "Gherkins Tim-rp3420" Guys, I have been so stunned and saddened about losing Dave, I have just had a hard time posting about it. Every time Dave brought somebody to the valley to show them uncle Craig's and my airplanes, he would pay the highest compliments. Recently spent some time with him at Copperstate Fly-in and he kept ranting and raving the judges to come over and judge our planes. Always the center of goings on at monument valley where he and Eve gave freely of their pop, food and a chair. We will sorely miss him. Our humble condolences to Eve and her family and of course his right hand man, George. Tim Gherkins & Uncle Craig ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Thompson Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave That's our field elevation. ----- Original Message ----- From: RICHARD BUTLER To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave George do you really mean 4300 feet? R Butler Rimrock ----- Original Message ----- From: George Thompson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave 582 with two up at 4300 ft. George ----- Original Message ----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Does anyone know what engine Dave was flying under? href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com www.aeroelectric.comhref="http://www.buil d ersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kit l og.comhref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref=" htt p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="htt p ://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?Kolb-List> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c h ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics .. com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________ Date: 11/14/2006 href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com title=http://www.buildersbooks.com/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c h ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics .. com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c h ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics .. com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________ Date: 11/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:08 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Az. Dave From: "jimhefner" In memory of Dave, here are some pictures from when he hauled his plane to San Manuel airport (40 miles N of Tucson) in early 05. We had a great time flying around the area and spending time together camping in his BAMH. I really still can't believe it! Also I'm sure there is another family tragedy we are not talking about, the family of his passenger.... condolences to them as well! -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74831#74831 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_004_large_407.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_005_large_132.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_006_large_477.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_007_large_902.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_009_large_194.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_013_large_294.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_014_large_211.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dave_pelletier_visit_012505_018_large_132.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:36:47 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise From: "David Lucas" > That hole in the back was acting like a giant megaphone Just wondering, Does the Tube back to the tail feathers also act like a drum with each passing of the nearby prop tip thus passing the noise back up the tube to the cockpit cage ? Has anyone done any work on this theory by having some sound deadening material inside the tube at that point at least ? Resonation can travel well within the confines of a tube especially if harmonics are involved. Just curious. David Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74833#74833 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:46 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise I cut out a thick plug of foam rubber and stuffed it into the tube just behind my right elbow to keep cold air from flowing out of it. Don't know if it is quieter, but my elbow has quit turning blue... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lucas" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise > > >> That hole in the back was acting like a giant megaphone > > > Just wondering, Does the Tube back to the tail feathers also act like a > drum with each passing of the nearby prop tip thus passing the noise back > up the tube to the cockpit cage ? > > Has anyone done any work on this theory by having some sound deadening > material inside the tube at that point at least ? > > Resonation can travel well within the confines of a tube especially if > harmonics are involved. > > Just curious. David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74833#74833 > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:23 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: Check out Low and slow - Google Video _Click here: Low and slow - Google Video_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7821240344254343216) Playing in my back yard do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:26:07 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Kolb-List: Teat >Sorry to hear about Dave. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:09 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Az. Dave had been flying the Kolb for a long time and had flown many passengers. I find it hard to believe he just stalled and spun in. I want wanabies or newbies to know that Kolbs don't just fall out of the sky and the plane had just been inspected. My first thought was he either suffered a hart attack or a stroke. But that will all come out in the NTSB report. At least I got to spend a short time with Dave at the Copperstate fly-in. Regards, Will Uribe El Paso, TX FireStar II N4GU _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/) From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Thompson Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:06 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Larry, Of couce it is not official because the NTSB are going to investigate it because he had just registered the Kolb as a sport certified plane.They had been doing touch and go's all morning. I don't know how big (heavy) the passenger was but it is my and most others that he made a low level turn and just stalled and spun in. He only had a 282 Rotax on it. It went in straight down. No chance for his chute. Since he was in the pattern, I doubt that they were more than4-500 feet high. our field is 4500 feet. do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video From: "N111KX (Kip)" Great flying, Will :D . I wish that it was that easy to fly low in Georgia! I have been lying low recently as I have been deciding on a next project. I hope to have a Waiex kit delivered in Feb [Shocked] . Don't worry, the Firestar is going nowhere and will someday have a big brother in the hangar with her... Kip -------- Kip Firestar II (born September 2000) Atlanta, GA N111KX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74857#74857 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:26 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise David I have been trying to make my MKIII quieter since I lowered my engine by adding sound deadening material everywhere I could think of with no luck. I never considered the fuselage tube but that could be it. definitely worth checking. My tube is plugged near the tail feathers but not on the fuselage end so it might be even more noisy. Good idea. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW powered MKIIIc ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lucas" Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise > > >> That hole in the back was acting like a giant megaphone > > > Just wondering, Does the Tube back to the tail feathers also act like a > drum with each passing of the nearby prop tip thus passing the noise back > up the tube to the cockpit cage ? > > Has anyone done any work on this theory by having some sound deadening > material inside the tube at that point at least ? > > Resonation can travel well within the confines of a tube especially if > harmonics are involved. > > Just curious. David > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74833#74833 > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:08 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video From: "John Williamson" Since "Low and Slow"is a relative term, here is a link to 5 videos from the Kolbra or standing by it: http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot2/LowandSlow.htm -------- John Williamson Arlington, TX Kolbra, 912ULS http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74861#74861 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:45 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Since Dave was checking the other guy out, who had a PPL, could he have been at the controls? It was a kinda strange machine to the other guy. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:28 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Cockpit Noise You make a good point of air coming forward in the Mk III tube. I have been wondering about cutting a louver in the under side of the nose cone to relieve the vacuum which would also stop the forward movement of air in the tube. According to Mr. Newton, the reaction would be less from the forward moving air. However, the drag of a louver would be more. Hard to figure. Vic ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:15 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Check out Low and slow - Google Video | John Williamson Hi John W: The Sand Dune Video brings back some fond memories of several years ago. Do you have the video you shot on our flight down the Texax coast last year? john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:01 PM PST US From: "George Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave No, The other Guy had a Private license. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Noyer To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave Since Dave was checking the other guy out, who had a PPL, could he have been at the controls? It was a kinda strange machine to the other guy. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 11/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:07 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out Low and slow - Google Video Why in the world did they cut so many roads in the desert? New subdivision? Larry, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: WillUribe@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:58 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Check out Low and slow - Google Video Click here: Low and slow - Google Video Playing in my back yard do not archive ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:41:15 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az. Dave PPL..private license...that's what the pax had...according to faa. Maybe my writing wasn't clear. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vamoose From: "planecrazzzy" That's GOOD to hear Lar.... Don't give up , your just Soooo close to gittin it in the air....Then the fun begins... Gotta Fly... -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74872#74872 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:47 PM PST US From: "Bob Dalton" Subject: Kolb-List: For Dave All, I wanted to express a little more on the loss of Dave Pelletier and thought about putting together a slideshow. But I decided on this picture instead, it made me feel better. Bob D. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion From: "Dave Bigelow" Regarding props - I've had very good results with Powerfin props. They are well made, rugged, and have a low moment of inertia. I would use a Warp Drive for sure if I was on floats or operating off a gravel runway because of the metal leading edge. Prop preferance is kind of like blondes, brunettes, or red heads. I'll certainly test a warp drive if I can get ahold of one for that purpose. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74883#74883 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:38 PM PST US From: "ron wehba" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: For Dave very, very nice thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Dalton To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Kolb-List: For Dave All, I wanted to express a little more on the loss of Dave Pelletier and thought about putting together a slideshow. But I decided on this picture instead, it made me feel better. Bob D. ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:58 PM PST US From: david@davidlehman.net Subject: RE: Kolb-List: For Dave Wow Bob!... Excellent work... DVD Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Dalton" Sent: 11/15/2006 4:29 PM Subject: Kolb-List: For Dave All, I wanted to express a little more on the loss of Dave Pelletier and thought about putting together a slideshow. But I decided on this picture instead, it made me feel better. Bob D. ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:37 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion | | I'll certainly test a warp drive if I can get ahold of one for that purpose. | | -------- | Dave Bigelow Dave: Try to keep preference and performance seperated in your HKS test. ;-) Props are the primarly connection between the aircraft and the air we fly in. Differences in manufacturers and designs reflect in differences in performance. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:29 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade Hi Gang: Someone was asking about increasing fuel capacity in their original FS. Here is how Brother Jim and I did it on my FS in 1988, an 18 gal 5052 Aluminum .050 wall tank, mounted in the upper rear behind the bulkhead, opening up a cargo compartment below. Similar configuration as my MKIII. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:15 PM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion In a message dated 11/15/2006 7:39:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, up_country@hotmail.com writes: I'll certainly test a warp drive if I can get ahold of one for that purpose. Dave, as dicussed in previous posts, save yourself some trouble & call Warp Drive & ask for the inertia on whatever prop you would use. You will probably fund it is way too high for your gearbox. I like Warp props; used one for 500 hrs. I'm now using a Kiev prop; like it better. Howard Shackleford FS II SC ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:36 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: My Kind of Airport Hi Gang: On my way north to Alaska, 2001, I landed at Ashley, ND, for a short break. There was no one there, but they did have an old rotary dial type telephone on the wall of the little one room FBO. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:17 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Early Days of Cross Country Flying Hi Gang: This photo was taken of my FS and one man bivy tent, affectionately referred to as my "body bag", at Sun and Fun 1988, 18 years ago. About as close to barn storming as I could get back then. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:44 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: FS 1989 Hi Gang: Making a low pass and go around to eventually land in a small cow pasture near Woodville, FL, some time in 1989. This little airplane and I always felt like one. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:51 PM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Re: Kolb-List: For Dave Bob - This is incredible! If you want to print it out and send it to Eve, matted and framed, I'll be glad to help out with the cost. (Frames seem to get more expensive every year, especially with special mats.) Arty Trost --- Bob Dalton wrote: > All, > > > > I wanted to express a little more on the loss of > Dave Pelletier and thought > about putting together a slideshow. But I decided on > this picture instead, > it made me feel better. > > > > Bob D. > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:27 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: My Kind of Airport John et al (don't know al's last name), The state of Ohio has a hard surface rnwy, phone, terlit in every one of the county's airports/strips...some look like the Alaskan one you snapped. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive