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1. 04:17 AM - Kolb owners in Madrid Spain ()
2. 04:34 AM - Re: Az. Dave (John Jung)
3. 04:40 AM - Re: Kolb owners in Madrid Spain (Larry Bourne)
4. 04:40 AM - Re: Early Days of Cross Country Flying (N111KX (Kip))
5. 05:19 AM - Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (David Lehman)
6. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Early Days of Cross Country Flying (John Hauck)
7. 07:38 AM - Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (David Downey)
8. 08:24 AM - Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (John Hauck)
9. 08:35 AM - Re: thanks everyone for the pictures (pat ladd)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (John Bickham)
11. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (John Hauck)
12. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (robert bean)
13. 10:18 AM - Re: thanks everyone for the pictures (David Key)
14. 11:06 AM - Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade (John Hauck)
15. 12:13 PM - Re: For Dave (George Thompson)
16. 12:27 PM - Covering supplies (Jim Kmet)
17. 12:49 PM - Re: Covering supplies (John Hauck)
18. 04:15 PM - Alvord Desert 2005 (John Hauck)
19. 05:02 PM - Re: Mark-II for sale (UNCLASSIFIED) (lndc)
20. 06:34 PM - Re: Alvord Desert 2005 (Bob Dalton)
21. 08:53 PM - Re: Alvord Desert 2005 (TheWanderingWench)
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Subject: | Kolb owners in Madrid Spain |
Any Kolb owners in Madrid? I will be in Madrid a few more days and would like
to meet any Kolbers here.
Steven Green
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> Since Dave was checking the other guy out, who had a PPL, could he have been
at the controls? It was a kinda strange machine to the other guy.
> regards,
> Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
> http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ (http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/)
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I talked to Dave on Saturday, and he said that a guy was flying in (on a jet) to
get some stick time with him. Since this guy was from Seattle, I assume that
he was the same guy and that he was at the controls. That Dave would give a stranger
stick time in his plane to help transition to a Kolb, shows how generous
a person he was.
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John Jung
Firestar II N6163J
Surprise, AZ
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Subject: | Re: Kolb owners in Madrid Spain |
I assume you're in Madrid, Spain ?? Too bad - Madrid, New Mexico is only
about 20 or so miles from Santa Fe. Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
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From: <kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:16 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb owners in Madrid Spain
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> Any Kolb owners in Madrid? I will be in Madrid a few more days and would
> like to meet any Kolbers here.
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> Steven Green
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Subject: | Re: Early Days of Cross Country Flying |
Ancient times. Even before streamlined struts were invented [Wink]
Kip
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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
Thanx John...
I picked up a 10 gal. Titan tank that I'm going to try this weekend... I
think I'll eventually try to copy yours... If you have any more pictures of
that installation, I'd appreciate seeing them...
Thanx again...
DVD
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On 11/15/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Hi Gang:
>
> Someone was asking about increasing fuel capacity in their original
> FS. Here is how Brother Jim and I did it on my FS in 1988, an 18 gal
> 5052 Aluminum .050 wall tank, mounted in the upper rear behind the
> bulkhead, opening up a cargo compartment below. Similar configuration
> as my MKIII.
>
> john h
> mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Early Days of Cross Country Flying |
| Kip
Kip:
Got to look a little closer. I believe 4130 streamline struts were
already in place. I do remember the first two things we changed on
the original FS was gear legs and lift struts. We went to .090 wall
4130 X 1" and heat treated to 42 Rockwell. I got the Rockwell number
from Maxair. Experience dictated harder heat treating and larger
diameter legs the next year.
Still using the same material and numbers for the gear legs on my
mkIII.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
I would also like to see the images if they are out there. Direct e-mail is OK.
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David Lehman <david@davidlehman.net> wrote:
Thanx John...
I picked up a 10 gal. Titan tank that I'm going to try this weekend... I think
I'll eventually try to copy yours... If you have any more pictures of that
installation, I'd appreciate seeing them...
Thanx again...
DVD
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On 11/15/06, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: Hi Gang:
Someone was asking about increasing fuel capacity in their original
FS. Here is how Brother Jim and I did it on my FS in 1988, an 18 gal
5052 Aluminum .050 wall tank, mounted in the upper rear behind the
bulkhead, opening up a cargo compartment below. Similar configuration
as my MKIII.
john h
mkIII
Dave Downey
in SE PA
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
Morning Gang:
Those interested, if there are more photos of the original FS 18 gal
aluminum fuel tank, I will be glad to post them.
This tank was baffled internally, pulled fuel from the bottom rear,
lowest point of tank, through a finger strainer. Fueled from the rear
through an inlet made up of pvc and brass plumbing parts.
This tank worked great in all areas except a small leak in the bottom
rear that was not detected until after installation. This tank was
not sloshed. Had we sloshed it, like we did the 25 gal aluminum tank
in my mkIII, we probably would not have had any leakage problems.
Soon as I get a chance I will dig through old photos and see what I
can find.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: thanks everyone for the pictures |
I intend to look into the electric kit for the carbs. is anyone
running them? >
Hi, we have a version that heats the carb itself available here. no
switching on and off as it is on all the time. I have it on the Jabi on
my mk 111 but as I have not flown since I crunched my wing and had only
a few hours before that i cannot speak for it. efficiency.
It is getting general use here and I have heard nothing against it.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
Here are some pictures of my attempt at the John/Jim Hauck fuel tank design for
a Mark III. Originally I calculated 20.5 gallons. In the leak and flow test
I did just before covering put 21.5 gallons in it. I worked out a size that
I would only have to remove one tube to install or remove. John H's tank is a
bit bigger and I think he has two tubes that he removes.
Both Jim and John talked me it through it.
One difference is my tank is .063". Couldn't get .050" around here. It was right
after Katrina and supply/selection was pretty limited. This tank weighs 10
pounds less than my old one that only carried 12.7 gallons. Should have done
it right the first time.
Take it from someone who knows, if you are thinking of making long X-countries
then you need at least a one hour reserve. Our planes fly at a speed that just
a little bit of weather at the end of a flight can put you in a bad way. I
learned the hard way. The FAR 30 minute reserve is not enough for planes that
like to fly slow.
John H has all the experience with this. These pictures are my humble attempt
to gain from that experience. If John H has trouble finding his old pictures
and you need more details let me know. I have more handy. John H did this so
long ago that once he finds them he may have to take them and have them restored
:D !
I have been fighting the two W's (Work and Weather) to get this painting finished.
Ready for final color coats. Just happens to be foul weather on my off days
for the last month. Also had few chores in there.
Anxious to fly it.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
John H did this so long ago that once he finds them he may have to
take them and have them restored :D !
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| John Bickham
Hi John B:
Do you know anyone that does tin-type restorations? I got a couple of
the fuel tank I need fixed up. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
John B, looks very nice. I like the simplicity, no fancy angles, less
sides.
Maybe someday I'll do that too.
BB
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On 16, Nov 2006, at 11:40 AM, John Bickham wrote:
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Subject: | Re: thanks everyone for the pictures |
I have a carb heating system for a 912 that circulates the coolant from the
heads to keep the carbs at a tempature where they don't ice. I forget the
name but I can photo it.
>From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: thanks everyone for the pictures
>Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:34:55 -0000
>
>I intend to look into the electric kit for the carbs. is anyone running
>them? >
>
>Hi, we have a version that heats the carb itself available here. no
>switching on and off as it is on all the time. I have it on the Jabi on my
>mk 111 but as I have not flown since I crunched my wing and had only a few
>hours before that i cannot speak for it. efficiency.
>
>It is getting general use here and I have heard nothing against it.
>
>Cheers
>
>Pat
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Subject: | Re: Original FS Fuel Tank Upgrade |
Here's a few more photos of my aluminum tank installation in the original FS.
I don't think I have any of the construction phase of the tank.
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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler, alabama
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Thanks Bob, That is a great picture. I am taking it to our Utralight
meeting tonight of which Dave was our President.
George Thompson.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Dalton
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: For Dave
All,
I wanted to express a little more on the loss of Dave Pelletier and
thought about putting together a slideshow. But I decided on this
picture instead, it made me feel better.
Bob D.
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11/16/2006
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Subject: | Covering supplies |
Hi all, Im recovering the Fuse on my MK-3, who has the best prices for
Poly-Brush/Spray/Tone of recent? & contact info would be appreciated. I
only need a gallon of each W/reducers. Thanks, Jim
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Subject: | Re: Covering supplies |
Hi all, Im recovering the Fuse on my MK-3, who has the best prices for
Poly-Brush/Spray/Tone of recent? & contact info would be appreciated.
I only need a gallon of each W/reducers. Thanks, Jim
Hi Jim:
Try Jim and Dondi Miller:
http://www.aircrafttechsupport.com/
CALL TOLL FREE 1-877-877-3334
john h
mkIII
hauck's holler, alabama
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Subject: | Alvord Desert 2005 |
Hi Gang:
Four photos I like that were shot by Larry/Karen Cottrell during our
Kolb get together and camp out on the dry lake bed. Hard to
experience complete freedom of flight like we had out there. We did
have one little area we marked as semi-restricted, that was the area
just south of us that was used by the land sailors. For some reason,
they did not want anything to do with us or our airplanes.
Looking forward to visiting that area again.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Mark-II for sale (UNCLASSIFIED) |
Hi, I mailed a guy in Lakeville MN. to see if he still has his Mark ll for sale.
If he does, I'll leave all the info you need to get hold of him. It's real nice.
Dan
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Subject: | Alvord Desert 2005 |
Those are great shots John, (Larry, Karen).
Bob
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Alvord Desert 2005
Hi Gang:
Four photos I like that were shot by Larry/Karen Cottrell during our
Kolb get together and camp out on the dry lake bed. Hard to
experience complete freedom of flight like we had out there. We did
have one little area we marked as semi-restricted, that was the area
just south of us that was used by the land sailors. For some reason,
they did not want anything to do with us or our airplanes.
Looking forward to visiting that area again.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Alvord Desert 2005 |
John -
All the pictures were good - but the last one is
absolutely fantastic! Whoever took it was a really
fine photographer - or Adobe Photoshop artist!
Hope that we see each other at the Alvord in 2007!
Arty
--- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi Gang:
>
> Four photos I like that were shot by Larry/Karen
> Cottrell during our
> Kolb get together and camp out on the dry lake bed.
> Hard to
> experience complete freedom of flight like we had
> out there. We did
> have one little area we marked as semi-restricted,
> that was the area
> just south of us that was used by the land sailors.
> For some reason,
> they did not want anything to do with us or our
> airplanes.
>
> Looking forward to visiting that area again.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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