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0. 01:02 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:48 AM - Re: Stories of off-airport landings (David Downey)
2. 04:20 AM - Hangar update (Mike Schnabel)
3. 04:59 AM - Re: Hangar update (N27SB@aol.com)
4. 06:12 AM - Re: Stories of off-airport landings (Thom Riddle)
5. 06:44 AM - New Prop (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
6. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: Stories of off-airport landings (pat ladd)
7. 07:46 AM - Re: Picture of Homer Kolb (LEE CREECH)
8. 07:48 AM - Stories of Off-Airport Landings (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
9. 07:50 AM - Re: Stories of off-airport landings (Thom Riddle)
10. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Stories of off-airport landings (John Hauck)
11. 09:12 AM - Re: Stories of Off-Airport Landings (possums)
12. 10:09 AM - Re: Stories of Off-Airport Landings (Jim Dunn)
13. 10:31 AM - Re: Hangar update (jerb)
14. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: Stories of off-airport landings (jerb)
15. 10:56 AM - Re: Hangar update (Richard Girard)
16. 01:46 PM - Re: Hangar update (N27SB@aol.com)
17. 02:59 PM - DRE-6000 ANR Headset (John Hauck)
18. 03:21 PM - Re: Hangar update (Richard Girard)
19. 07:12 PM - Re: Flight Info (possums)
20. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: Flight Info (Bob Noyer)
21. 07:44 PM - Re: Picture of Homer Kolb (Dennis Souder)
22. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Flight Info (Larry Cottrell)
23. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Flight Info (Larry Bourne)
24. 08:50 PM - Re: Re: Flight Info (possums)
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| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | Stories of off-airport landings |
good morning Dennis;
Of all the posters on the list, I look forward to yours most due to your involvement
in teh project throughout.
Please update the date on your PC though. It is a hassle to have to page back
and back and back to find yoru postings since they are dated in 2002!
Thanks!
Dennis Souder <flykolb@pa.net> wrote:
In that vein, I'll continue with this one:
It was the first or second year TOK showed its TS at SNF. I took Howard
Levy, who used to write for Popular Mechanics but was then writing for
various aviation magazines, on a ride. We had an engine out, the TS had a
447 (yes the first TS was 447 powered) and that engine was never quite
right. That was the first of several seizures. It was during the flying
session and I landed in the woods - don't remember if was in or outside the
pattern, but it was close by. I landed on a narrow twisting dirt lane thru
the woods, gracefully following the twists and turns of the path until touch
down. Landed safely - no damage - and I was a bit apprehensive because I
was not ahmm, er ... properly credentialed to make such a flight with
passenger. So I was not anxious to hang around to see who might show up. I
pulled the starter cord and the 477 popped back to life as if nothing had
happened. I explained to Howard that I hated to leave him stranded, but I
thought I might get him out quicker if I went for help and, of course, I'd
be better off solo as I had to fly of the same twisty path I had landed on.
I got no argument from him! I got out of there fast and returned to paradise
city and went to get Howard in another vehicle for which I was properly
credentialed.
Howard was very gracious and never mentioned the incident in the article he
wrote on the TS. He could have ... but didn't.
Thanks Howard,
Dennis
Dave Downey
in SE PA
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Good morning gang,
Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email server...
screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then weeks
cleaning and prepping the building components (after over 9 years in storage),
things are finally taking shape!
With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to complete the
major part of construction in that time. That is as long as my crew can hang
in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
Mike S
Manchester TN
Firestar 2 503
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar update |
Nice work Mike,
You will be very happy with your building. If you have not Grouted in the
bottom of your walls yet, You might want to paint that area with something to
prevent moisture from causing the grout to eat the steel. I used regular silver
type roof coating. It is far easier to do this BEFORE you erect but I see
you have already started. It is still easy to do.
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of off-airport landings |
Sometime in the summer of 1967, with my private ticket less than a year old and
my courage and inexperience far out weighing common sense, I flew an old straight
tailed C-150 from Lithonia, GA up to a place in North GA I'd heard other
pilots talk about. The place called Turkey Mountain was allegedly a grass airport.
After much searching I finally found it and landed. The roll out was extremely
short as the "runway" was a bit overgrown, i.e., weeds just above knee-high.
Obviously it was abandoned. This particular old airport was atop a mountain
(Turkey, I presume) and was a one-way runway with a cemetary and mature forest
at one end of the relatively short strip and the edge of the mountain at the
other end. I taxied (with high power and the prop acting somewhat as a week-whacker)
to the dead (cemetary) end and turned around. I had no idea whether
I was going to get airborne or not but I had to try. No cell phones back then
and NOTHING within sight down the mountain. Not sure how people used to get to
the place because I didn't even see a dirt road up to it. At any rate, I gave
the take-off my best efforts and when I got to the cliff edge end of the runway
I was very close to flying speed with one notch of flaps and got airborne only
after the runway passed behind me and I descended into the air below.
I am grateful to be able to tell that story. It could have ended badly and I never
would have discovered the joys of Kolb flying or flying with safety being
foremost in my mind.
do not archive
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Thom in Buffalo
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=76366#76366
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Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Kolb Friends -
I switched props on my Mark-III, and am happy to report a noticeable
performance improvement. I'm running a 912ul.
Went from a Powerfin 3-blade 70-inch diameter to a 72-inch diameter
(still a Powerfin 3-blade). The extra 2 inches diam appears to have
increased my indicated airspeeds by 3 mph, for the all the same power
settings between 4200 and 5200 rpm. I'm happy with it! And there is
still 2 inches of clearance between the prop tip and the tailboom.
Noise level, however, is somewhat increased. (Time to start looking for
a ANR headset!)
Since I do all my cruising below 5000 rpm, I figured I'd take advantage
of the "larger prop turning slower is more efficient than a smaller prop
spinning fast" principle. Here are the numbers I'm seeing, for this
bone-stock Mark-III:
RPM IAS
4400 58
4600 62
4800 68
5000 72
Since these indicated airspeeds were taken at 8000 feet msl, converting
for altitude puts my true airspeeds at about ten MPH faster, across the
board.
Dennis Kirby
912ul, Powerfin-72, 60 hrs TT
Cedar Crest, NM
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of off-airport landings |
runway passed behind me and I descended into the air below.>>
Hi Thom,
you are in good company. Sikorsky rescued Mussolini from a mountain top in
the same way. They loaded up a Fieseler Storch with Mussolini, Sikorsky,
pilot.. plus I think 4 others and just drove it over the edge. Takes guts
Cheers
Pat
do not archive
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| Subject: | Picture of Homer Kolb |
And I assume that there was no "ultralight" category as such, so you had to
have an N number to fly legally even with chain-saw power.
It would be interesting to know the specifications of that machine, such as
weight, speed, total horsepower, etc. I wonder if that information still
exists?
Someone should put together a history of Homer and his designs.
Lee
>From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
>Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:57:43 -0500
>
>
>Early N numbers for experimentals started out low and the early birds got
>the worms. The early guys got the low numbers and these became prestigious
>and sought after. As I recall Homer sold one of his early N numbers for
>$1,000. This was back when $1,000 was worth something.
>
>That's how I recall it.
>
>Dennis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LEE CREECH
>Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:02 PM
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
>
>
>Was it actually N-numbered? Looks like "N2H" on the fin, either a
>three-digit N number or a joke . . .
>
>Lee in Ky
>Firestar II
>
>
> >From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
> >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:45:43 -0600
> >
> >Hi Gang
> >For the new List members who have not seen this picture, I thought it was
> >worthy to resend.
> >The picture is of Homer Kolb with a 1956 design powered by 4 chainsaw
> >engines, I guess this proves once and for all who the "real father" of
> >ultralights really is.....
> >Bill Vincent Firestar II
> >Upper Peninsula of Michigan
> >
> >Do Not Archive
> >
> >
>
>
> ><< HOMER_KOLB.jpg >>
>
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| Subject: | Stories of Off-Airport Landings |
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Here's mine:
Before I knew about Kolbs, I owned a 1953 Piper TriPacer in partnership
with another fellow.
In 1994, I was flying it north of my home field, about 5 miles away,
when one magneto crapped out. With its short wing, you could not keep a
TriPacer in level flight with less than 70 percent power, so I ended up
landing in a freshly-mowed alfalfa field. Perfect landing, no damage.
Within minutes, a pickup truck rumbled up the dirt road and the owner
asked if I needed any help. I thanked him for his offer, and asked only
for a ride to his farmhouse, that I might use a phone to arrange for an
alternate ride home. The farmer was fine with leaving the plane parked
in his field for as long as I needed, and he gathered rope and stakes
for me to tie it down properly. (I learned from this incident that the
rural Mexican farmers around here are the friendliest, most gracious
salt-o-the earth folks you could meet.)
In this fenced-in alfalfa field were four horses. Now I've heard
stories of cows liking to chew on fabric airplanes, but horses (being
*this* much smarter than their bovine counterparts) do not. So I tied
down the TriPacer in the field, got a ride home, and planned to come out
the following weekend with some friends to remove the wings and tow it
the 5 miles back to the airport.
[Fast-forward one week.] Airplane is back at the airport, the wings
back on, and I'm giving it a preflight inspection. It was then I
noticed a huge dent in the bottom of one wing. One of the aluminum ribs
was crushed upward, as if hit hard from underneath. We finally
concluded that a curious horse was probably investigating this strange,
new thing in his field, and was under the wing when something must've
startled him. His enormous equine head, jerking up, is what apparently
hit the wing bottom, doing an amazing amount of damage. Lesson learned:
Keep your stranded airplanes away from large creatures!
Dennis Kirby
Rural New Mexico
do not archive
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of off-airport landings |
Pat,
Have you notices that "guts" tend to dissipate with age? I think it has an inverse
mathematical coorelation with wisdom.
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Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of off-airport landings |
Sikorsky rescued Mussolini from a mountain top in
| the same way. They loaded up a Fieseler Storch with Mussolini,
Sikorsky,
| pilot.. plus I think 4 others and just drove it over the edge. Takes
guts
|
| Pat
Patrick:
When you mentioned Sikorsky, it sparked my interest in your story
because of my past experience with helicopters. However, Sikorsky was
not involved, but a gentleman by the name of Skorzeny. Gerlach was
the pilot who rescued Mussolini. Skorzeny insisted on accompanying
Mussolini to get points with Hitler. Gerlach did not think the Storch
would fly with Mussolini, much less when Skorzeny piled on too.
For the rest of the story:
http://www.3squadron.org.au/sasso.htm
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of Off-Airport Landings |
> We finally
>concluded that a curious horse was probably investigating this strange,
>new thing in his field, and was under the wing when something must've
>startled him. His enormous equine head, jerking up, is what apparently
>hit the wing bottom, doing an amazing amount of damage. Lesson learned:
>Keep your stranded airplanes away from large creatures!
>
>Dennis Kirby
I've been there before - actually horses like to "rub" up against things
like fences and airplanes. I had to round up several and put them in the
barn (after the owner explained this habit of theirs to me) in
order to leave my plane in his field until the next day.
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of Off-Airport Landings |
The horse was probably scratching himself against your wing, resulting in
the dent.
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>
>
> Here's mine:
>
> Before I knew about Kolbs, I owned a 1953 Piper TriPacer in partnership
> with another fellow.
>
> In 1994, I was flying it north of my home field, about 5 miles away,
> when one magneto crapped out. With its short wing, you could not keep a
> TriPacer in level flight with less than 70 percent power, so I ended up
> landing in a freshly-mowed alfalfa field. Perfect landing, no damage.
> Within minutes, a pickup truck rumbled up the dirt road and the owner
> asked if I needed any help. I thanked him for his offer, and asked only
> for a ride to his farmhouse, that I might use a phone to arrange for an
> alternate ride home. The farmer was fine with leaving the plane parked
> in his field for as long as I needed, and he gathered rope and stakes
> for me to tie it down properly. (I learned from this incident that the
> rural Mexican farmers around here are the friendliest, most gracious
> salt-o-the earth folks you could meet.)
>
> In this fenced-in alfalfa field were four horses. Now I've heard
> stories of cows liking to chew on fabric airplanes, but horses (being
> *this* much smarter than their bovine counterparts) do not. So I tied
> down the TriPacer in the field, got a ride home, and planned to come out
> the following weekend with some friends to remove the wings and tow it
> the 5 miles back to the airport.
>
> [Fast-forward one week.] Airplane is back at the airport, the wings
> back on, and I'm giving it a preflight inspection. It was then I
> noticed a huge dent in the bottom of one wing. One of the aluminum ribs
> was crushed upward, as if hit hard from underneath. We finally
> concluded that a curious horse was probably investigating this strange,
> new thing in his field, and was under the wing when something must've
> startled him. His enormous equine head, jerking up, is what apparently
> hit the wing bottom, doing an amazing amount of damage. Lesson learned:
> Keep your stranded airplanes away from large creatures!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Rural New Mexico
> do not archive
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar update |
Mike,
Like the looks of your building. Please excuse this silly question
but looking at your pad it appears you have a U channel at the edge
in which the hangar side wall rest. Question is the channel
temporary during erection or will it stay there.
The reason I ask will not rain travel down the wall and fill it up
channel - being at the same level as floor inside will not water come
inside. A difference in height between the wall and inside floor is
a good design to minimize that occurring, but with the outside edge
it forms a channel with both being the same height might cause you
water problems. I see where the channel would help during
erection. If the outside perimeter of the channel were slightly
lower than the level of the floor, it might prevent water migrating
inside but I would be concerned about a rust problem over time with
your wall setting in a trough of water and dirt.
jerb
At 06:20 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
>Good morning gang,
>
>Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email
>server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
>
>After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done,
>then weeks cleaning and prepping the building components (after over
>9 years in storage), things are finally taking shape!
>
>With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to
>complete the major part of construction in that time. That is as
>long as my crew can hang in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
>
>I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
>
>Mike S
>Manchester TN
>Firestar 2 503
>
>do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stories of off-airport landings |
A field I used to fly out of near Detroit there was a guy that
restored Fieseler Storch planes. Quite a bird if I must say. They
had a fund raiser for the airport and were selling rides in a Sterman
or a Storch. I took a ride in Sterman and have been crying over it
since. :'( I could have easily gotten a ride in a Sterman many times
over - but a Storch. dumb dumb dumb .... The other dumb thing was in
1974 when I hesitated on a chance to buy a fresh rebuilt flying PT-19
for $3500, and then some stranger from PA came in and offered the
widow $1500 and she sold it while the flight school had two other
checks in hand for $3K. I would have bought it for sure at that
price. :-(
jerryb
At 09:30 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
>runway passed behind me and I descended into the air below.>>
>
>Hi Thom,
>you are in good company. Sikorsky rescued Mussolini from a mountain
>top in the same way. They loaded up a Fieseler Storch with
>Mussolini, Sikorsky, pilot.. plus I think 4 others and just drove
>it over the edge. Takes guts
>
>Cheers
>
>Pat
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar update |
Mike, By the sounds of it you are erecting an arch building. If so, I'd sure
like to hear of problems or tips to proper assembly. I have the dirt work
done, pallets of formed steel, and buckets of bolts. Is it just me, or is
getting a concrete guy as difficult in TN as it is in KS? And if my
assumptions about your building are wrong, then like Emily Littela said,
"never mind".
Rick
On 11/22/06, jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Mike,
> Like the looks of your building. Please excuse this silly question but
> looking at your pad it appears you have a U channel at the edge in which the
> hangar side wall rest. Question is the channel temporary during erection or
> will it stay there.
>
> The reason I ask will not rain travel down the wall and fill it up channel
> - being at the same level as floor inside will not water come inside. A
> difference in height between the wall and inside floor is a good design to
> minimize that occurring, but with the outside edge it forms a channel with
> both being the same height might cause you water problems. I see where the
> channel would help during erection. If the outside perimeter of the channel
> were slightly lower than the level of the floor, it might prevent water
> migrating inside but I would be concerned about a rust problem over time
> with your wall setting in a trough of water and dirt.
> jerb
>
> At 06:20 AM 11/22/2006, you wrote:
>
> Good morning gang,
>
> Its been a while since i could send a message via this Yahoo email
> server... screwy software! Think i have it fixed, so heres a test message.
>
> After several long months waiting for the concrete work to be done, then
> weeks cleaning and prepping the building components (after over 9 years in
> storage), things are finally taking shape!
>
> With the weather being very favorable the next few days, hope to complete
> the major part of construction in that time. That is as long as my crew can
> hang in that long! (Family, free labor, cant complain!)
>
> I hope everyone has an enjoyable, happy and safe holiday weekend!
>
> Mike S
> Manchester TN
> Firestar 2 503
>
> do not archive
>
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> *
>
>
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>
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"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar update |
Rick,
Unlike Mike's building, I used a formed steel U channel. It simplifies the
concrete work.
And the channel get filled with a Portland/sand grout. This last step really
stiffens the building.
Steve
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| Subject: | DRE-6000 ANR Headset |
Hi Gang:
Tropic Aero has DRE-6000 Headsets. These are relatively inexpensive
great performing units. Good feature is the ability to use aircraft
12VDC system to operate ANR, plus two 9VDC bats for backup. I have
been using a set for the past 18 months. I have lost a lot of my
hearing, to the point I have difficulty understanding the spoken word
on the radio through a David Clark passive headset (H 10-40). The DRE
gives me a new lease on life. Everyone's radios start transmitting
better and I can understand what the are saying most of the time. ;-)
http://www.tropicaero.com/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=DRE-6000
Not selling them, but several of us on the Kolb List use them. They
make a long cross country day in a noisy Kolb much more pleasant and
far less fatiguing.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Hangar update |
I opted for the foundation weldments so I only have to do more bolts. After
7600, what's a few more? I can't wait to have real room again. Anybody doing
radiant floor heat?
Rick
On 11/22/06, N27SB@aol.com <N27SB@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Rick,
> Unlike Mike's building, I used a formed steel U channel. It simplifies
> the concrete work.
> And the channel get filled with a Portland/sand grout. This last step
> really stiffens the building.
>
> Steve
>
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> *
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>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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Still need your address - again.
Practicing the levitation stuff,
but it looks a lot better outside than inside
don't you think??
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5760228286962943975&hl=en
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is this the world's biggest wedgie?
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
do not archive
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| Subject: | Picture of Homer Kolb |
Lee,
You are correct. I'll ask Homer next time I see him about the speeds, but
as I recall Homer once said it had a lift off speed of something like 55 or
60 mph ... with only a 12 ft span it was HOT! Sitting in that thing doing
60 mph that close to the ground must have seemed more like 100 mph. Must
have been a quite a rush!
I don't think he flew it more than a couple times. Too HOT!
Next version traded one engine for another 5 ft of wing span - that one flew
much better.
When I was a kid, I remember one time going down to the river to watch this
guy fly a glider on floats pulled behind a boat. The boat accelerated and
the glider lifted off and was soon flying. But almost as soon as it gained
just a bit of altitude the wings folded up and down it went. Pilot was wet
and pretty disgusted, but otherwise ok.
Many years later when we were building airplanes, I asked Homer what
happened that his wings folded up so quickly. He replied that he had used
hardware store eye-bolts for attaching the wire-braced wings. The eye-bolts
just opened up when the flying stress was applied. Homer learned many such
lessons the hard way. His next glider had the same hardware store
eye-bolts, but these he had welded so it now had a closed loop.
Dennis
And I assume that there was no "ultralight" category as such, so you had to
have an N number to fly legally even with chain-saw power.
It would be interesting to know the specifications of that machine, such as
weight, speed, total horsepower, etc. I wonder if that information still
exists?
Someone should put together a history of Homer and his designs.
Lee
>From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
>Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 01:57:43 -0500
>
>
>Early N numbers for experimentals started out low and the early birds got
>the worms. The early guys got the low numbers and these became prestigious
>and sought after. As I recall Homer sold one of his early N numbers for
>$1,000. This was back when $1,000 was worth something.
>
>That's how I recall it.
>
>Dennis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LEE CREECH
>Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 12:02 PM
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
>
>
>Was it actually N-numbered? Looks like "N2H" on the fin, either a
>three-digit N number or a joke . . .
>
>Lee in Ky
>Firestar II
>
>
> >From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
> >To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Kolb-List: Picture of Homer Kolb
> >Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:45:43 -0600
> >
> >Hi Gang
> >For the new List members who have not seen this picture, I thought it was
> >worthy to resend.
> >The picture is of Homer Kolb with a 1956 design powered by 4 chainsaw
> >engines, I guess this proves once and for all who the "real father" of
> >ultralights really is.....
> >Bill Vincent Firestar II
> >Upper Peninsula of Michigan
> >
> >Do Not Archive
> >
> >
>
>
> ><< HOMER_KOLB.jpg >>
>
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Possums, you are so full of crap, that I would love to meet you. Why don't
you come to MV this year.
A fan!
Larry, Oregon
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight Info
>
>
> Still need your address - again.
> Practicing the levitation stuff,
> but it looks a lot better outside than inside
> don't you think??
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5760228286962943975&hl=en
>
>
>
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Perty kewl trick, senor.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight Info
>
>
> Still need your address - again.
> Practicing the levitation stuff,
> but it looks a lot better outside than inside
> don't you think??
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5760228286962943975&hl=en
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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At 12:21 AM 11/23/2006, you wrote:
>
>Perty kewl trick, senor.
>
>Larry Bourne
Sorry - didn't mean to send it to "you".
But it does look better outside - in the sun.
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