---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/27/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:36 AM - List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle) 1. 01:45 PM - Az Daves' services (JAMES BEARD) 2. 02:22 PM - Re: Az Daves' services (George Thompson) 3. 03:30 PM - ms dixie (Paul Petty) 4. 05:07 PM - Facet pump thread sealer (Lanny Fetterman) 5. 06:06 PM - Re: Facet pump thread sealer (Larry Cottrell) 6. 06:18 PM - Arizona Dave (Craig Nelson) 7. 06:38 PM - Adventures in Prop Inertia (Richard Girard) 8. 07:38 PM - Re: Facet pump thread sealer (David Lehman) 9. 07:52 PM - Firestar Lord Mounts, Rudder Cables (Edward Bonsell) 10. 08:52 PM - Re: Firestar Lord Mounts, Rudder Cables (R. Hankins) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:42 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:09 PM PST US From: "JAMES BEARD" Subject: Kolb-List: Az Daves' services Two weeks after Daves accident and I can barely think of it without welling up. I Wanted to post something meaningful here but words cannot communicate the emotions we are all experiencing. I know that George, the Black Mesa Flyers, Uncle Craig, Tim and many others must feel his loss even more deeply than do I, having known Dave just a brief year. He mentored myself and many others in all things Kolb; He was so very generous with his time and his wisdom that the community owes him a great deal of respect, if nothing more. Many of you will travel far to join us in celebrating his life Saturday in Prescott; for those who might need a place to r.o.n. Friday evening, please give Sandy and I a call on the land line at 928-649-9440, or simply send an email. We live just off the Cottonwood airport in Clarkdale, thirty minutes from Embry-Riddel. Any friend of Dave is more than welcome, and we would have much to share. It's the least we could do for such a remarkable individual, such a wonderful man. Jim and Sandy Beard; MlllX "Jackalope" (under construction) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:18 PM PST US From: "George Thompson" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Az Daves' services I will second that. I have two queen sized beds here at my home for anyone who needs to spend the night by coming from affair. Any friend of Dave's is a friend of mine. Please contact me off line if you need a bed for the night. Az. Bald Eagle George Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: JAMES BEARD To: kolb-list Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Az Daves' services Two weeks after Daves accident and I can barely think of it without welling up. I Wanted to post something meaningful here but words cannot communicate the emotions we are all experiencing. I know that George, the Black Mesa Flyers, Uncle Craig, Tim and many others must feel his loss even more deeply than do I, having known Dave just a brief year. He mentored myself and many others in all things Kolb; He was so very generous with his time and his wisdom that the community owes him a great deal of respect, if nothing more. Many of you will travel far to join us in celebrating his life Saturday in Prescott; for those who might need a place to r.o.n. Friday evening, please give Sandy and I a call on the land line at 928-649-9440, or simply send an email. We live just off the Cottonwood airport in Clarkdale, thirty minutes from Embry-Riddel. Any friend of Dave is more than welcome, and we would have much to share. It's the least we could do for such a remarkable individual, such a wonderful man. Jim and Sandy Beard; MlllX "Jackalope" (under construction) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 11/27/2006 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:15 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: ms dixie From: "Paul Petty" Hey gang got the fuselage painted and headed to the shop tonight to work on the tail and nose cone. Photos are here >>>> http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2994 Later -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie covering and painting Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=77426#77426 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:34 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Facet pump thread sealer Hi All, My Facet pump came today, are there any suggestions as to what I should use to seal the threads? Also, if I mount it lower than the fuel tanks. In the event it fails ( from what I have read this would probably need to be from a blown fuse or bad connection), can the mechanical pump pull fuel through about five feet of fuel line, with a three foot lift to the carbs? Just trying to cover all the bases before installation! Thanks in advance Lanny Fetterman N598LF FSII Do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:55 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet pump thread sealer Hi, I mounted my facet on the bottom of the "jump seat" then ran the fuel lines forward to a panel at the side of the front seat, then back up to the pulse pump. I first attempted to use it as a boost pump as in a GA plane. It worked fine until I did a fly by at a friends house then attempted to pull out with full throttle. It coughed on pull out and I never attempted to fly without it again. So I guess my answer would be that it will "most likely" do just fine as long as you don't use full throttle. As Beauford says - its worth what you paid for it! Larry, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lanny Fetterman" can the mechanical pump > pull fuel through about five feet of fuel line, with a three foot lift to > the carbs? Do not archive > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:18:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Arizona Dave From: "Craig Nelson" All This is the hardest thing I have done in a long time. I have been silent for good cause. Dave's loss is great!! I am in New York tonight, I'll be here all week I'm in the hotel reading my daily dose of the list and... This is the holiday season which we spend time with the ones we love, family and friends, to reflect on the blessings we enjoy and extend our self's and hearts to them. Traditionally we gather together at thanksgiving with a feast and at Christmas time share ourselves again with those we hold dear exchanging gifts to express love and gratitude for the relationship we have with them building on the love with memories that are timeless. Today I feel the empty chair Eve must be experiencing, the first thanksgiving without her loved Dave. The thought of the up coming Christmas will become all too real after the service this sat... Eve my prayers are with you through this trying time. Know we all enjoyed Dave's warm friendly zest for all things good. From ice cream sandwiches at MV (not to mention the meal) to the new guy looking at his first metal and fabric formed in the shape of a Kolb. We all loved his willingness to share his experiences, stories of a flight, how the trailer works, where he and Eve have been," here take this sticker of a Kolb and put it on your trailer" May we all remember Eve in our Prayers in the future months that it will take to get comfortable with Dave in her heart rather than at her side----- my flight does not get in till sat so I hope I can make the service Uncle craig Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:35 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Adventures in Prop Inertia Like the weather, everyone talks about prop inertia. Okay, maybe it's only a few gearheads, but I got real interested after seeing the technique demonstrated while doing the weight shift and powered parachute modules for the repairman maintenance ticket. Having had plenty of time to think about it while driving back home from CA, I figured I had four props I could check and see how it all fit together. So I gathered them altogether and built the setup per Rotax Service Information instruction SI 11 UL 91 E, Available from the Rotax owners site and paraphrased in the CPS catalog. So here are the numbers for a 66" Ritz 2 blade wood prop, a 66" Warp Drive 3 blade straight carbon fiber prop with CNC aluminum hub, an IVO 60" 3 blade composite prop with quick adjust hub, and a 48" 2 blade Tennessee Propellor wood prop. Each prop was run 3 times and the times shown are the average of the three, although each prop's runs were all +/- 1 second. I'll go heaviest to lightest. Warp Drive 66" 3 blade CNC hub Wt. 9 lb. 12 oz. Average time to 30 oscillations, 180 seconds Inertia 5200 Kg cm^2 IVO 60" 3 blade Quick adjust hub Wt. 6 lb. 4 oz. Average time to 30 oscillations, 161 seconds Inertia 2700Kg cm^2 Ritz 66 X 28 2 blade Wt 5 lb. 1 oz. Average time to 30 oscillations, 190 seconds Inertia 3000 Kg cm^2 TPI 48 X 34 2 blade Wt. 3 lb. 3 oz. Average time to 30 oscillations, 127 seconds Inertia 1100Kg cm^2 So there you have it, you can definitely see the variance in inertia caused by length and mass. The Ritz is right at the top of the allowable range for a B gearbox, while the shorter, heavier IVO is right near it and the TPI shorty should represent no problem. The Warp drive is well within range of the C and E gearboxes but would be brutal on a B box. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:34 PM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Facet pump thread sealer Parker Seal Lube... do not archive On 11/27/06, Lanny Fetterman wrote: > > > Hi All, My Facet pump came today, are there any suggestions as to > what I > should use to seal the threads? Lanny Fetterman N598LF FSII Do not > archive > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:34 PM PST US From: "Edward Bonsell" Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Lord Mounts, Rudder Cables Hi All, Went out to Dillsburg aeroplane works today and got some new nuts and bolts to reassemble my 86 Firestar. They didn't have any lord mounts. Does anyone know where Kolb got their 1 3/4 inch lord mounts? Also, I pulled the control cables today and found the Rudder Cables had one or two broken strands in the pully area. Those of you with older or high time kolbs might want to check this. Ed Bonsell ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar Lord Mounts, Rudder Cables From: "R. Hankins" Ed, Thanks for the heads up on the rudder cables. 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