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1. 05:03 AM - Re: Full enclosure (Dwight.Kottke@hti.htch.com)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Full enclosure (planecrazzzy)
3. 06:55 AM - Re: Tail wheel rod bending (Rick Pearce)
4. 08:09 AM - Re: Tail wheel rod bending (Vic Peters)
5. 10:41 AM - Payment Question (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
6. 12:25 PM - Re: Payment Question (Bob Noyer)
7. 01:21 PM - Re: Payment Question (Jim Dunn)
8. 02:18 PM - 103 & slightly overweight (Dana Hague)
9. 02:50 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (Jim Dunn)
10. 02:50 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (FLYMICHIGAN@comcast.net)
11. 03:47 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (Dana Hague)
12. 03:48 PM - Re: Payment Question (Larry Bourne)
13. 03:53 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (David Key)
14. 04:11 PM - Re: Payment Question (pat ladd)
15. 04:18 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (ron wehba)
16. 04:30 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (John Hauck)
17. 04:31 PM - 103 and slightly overweight (Lanny Fetterman)
18. 04:46 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (Larry Cottrell)
19. 04:54 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (John Hauck)
20. 04:59 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (John Hauck)
21. 05:05 PM - Re: Kold in Fl (riquenkelly@aol.com)
22. 05:08 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (ron wehba)
23. 05:10 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (Ralph)
24. 05:22 PM - Re: Payment Question (Larry Bourne)
25. 05:26 PM - Re: Full enclosure (planecrazzzy)
26. 05:37 PM - Re: Kold in Fl (riquenkelly@aol.com)
27. 05:46 PM - Re: Hard to Pull Choke on a 912 (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
28. 05:54 PM - Re: Kold in Fl (Tom463@aol.com)
29. 05:56 PM - Re: Payment Question (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
30. 09:31 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (Dana Hague)
31. 09:54 PM - Re: 103 & slightly overweight (jerb)
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Subject: | Re: Full enclosure |
Hey Planecrazzy, nice pictures, especially the one with your new welder in
it. Tell us more about your new toy.
The Flying Farmer
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Subject: | Re: Full enclosure |
Hi Dwight,
Well, since you mention it.... I have something written about it.
It's on the Tailwind section because I mainly bought it to build my next plane
( Wittman - Tailwind - W-10 , 320 lycoming - cruise 190-200 )
Here's the address:
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4184
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> [quote="Dwight Kottke"]Hey Planecrazzy, nice pictures, especially the one with
your new welder in it. Tell us more about your new toy.
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> The Flying Farmer [b]
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel rod bending |
Sounds like a real good idea how many different sizes did you have
to use? I have allot of 4130 from the Christavia MK4 project.When I did
the weight & balance I had 85# on the rear wheel. I have avoided not
supporting the wings when I fold them because the stock rod not being
strong enough. Seems like it is not strong enough for the 912UL3 because
mine bent just rolling it in and out of the hanger. I keep my tractor &
lawn mower , 4 wheeler in the same hanger so I'm always rolling the Kolb
out to get to some thing. The Pacer had high enough wings to get every
thing in & out with out moving the plane. My be when I get the floats
on.
To change the subject is anyone else having problems with the 912
chokes being too stiff? I have buddy with a Highlander with a 912 and he
had the same problem. He just disconnected the chokes and added a
aircraft style primer. I ordered my primer yesterday and a new battery.I
had a battery out of one of these hand jump start sets. Just was not up
to the job so I ordered $96 one from Spruce.
Also were is every one mounting there airworthy & registration
papers? I was thinking about the center section that way it is out of
the wind & weather. I could also put them on top of the section behind
the gas tanks but the would subject to wind. Rick Pearce MK3C 912UL3
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tail wheel rod bending
Titaniumjoe.com has some tubing, but most of it is pretty thin wall. I
used 4130 tubing in telescoping sizes. I cut the larger tube at 45
degrees and ended it about half way to the tail wheel. It hasn't bent
through all my tailwheel first landings before I learned to wheel land.
I can send a pic in the morning if you'd like.
Rick
On 12/26/06, Rick Pearce <rap@isp.com> wrote:
My tail wheel support tube is already bending and I have not
even taxied the plane yet. I remember some posting a while back about
replacing it with a titiaum rod. Does any one have a source? Rick
Pearce MK3 912
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel rod bending |
Your right about the flexing tail wheel rod. Makes for suspention.
I also noticed when I sat on the tail boom (not recomended) adj.
brackets for the radiator that my rod was bent when I got up, but
straight with no weight. That weight also tends to straighten out the
built in curve of the welded steel tail section. Something I gave poor
Travis hell about (sort of). Sorry.
The only potential problem I noticed is that the forward point of the
lower vertical stabilizer was also puled away from the boom tube.
Mine was not riveted at that time but I wonder if anyone has had any
trouble with rivets in that area?
Vic
912 Extra
Me.
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Subject: | Payment Question |
Kolb Friends -
For those of you who have sold large-dollar-amount items (like airplanes
or engines), how do you work out the payment plan?
For example, let's say I found a nice, low-time 912ul engine on
Barnstormers that I wish to purchase from an individual to give to Big
Lar for Christmas so he can get Vamoose flying. I don't want to send a
check for $8,000 to a stranger until the engine I just bought is
delivered at my door. Similarly, he does not want to ship his engine to
me until he is sure I've sent his $8,000.
Is there some kind of escrow service that we can use to address this
dilemma?
I've heard of "PayPal" accounts that many folks use for purchasing stuff
on eBay, but I don't have such an account. What are the options that
would benefit both parties?
Many thanks -
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
Dennis,
Go to http://www.paypal.com and jump through their hoops..easy.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
As a seller, Paypal has a $500/month max unless seller provides their SSN
for Uncle Sam. If an individual with a one-time sale, seller may not want
to do that. Also, seller may get charged 3% fee on the money they
received from PP. That's $240 they would loose unless you pay extra.
If you or a friend can't pick it up in person, I think the best bet is to
talk to the individual and determine if you trust him/her. Check ebay
feedback, research the store,etc. If you don't trust them enough to send
in your money, you probably should not bid on the item.
I will sometimes ask for a 3-day inspection on an item I purchased. If it
is not as advertised, then return it for refund; less shipping. You can
negotitate anything you want, but in the end you will have to trust the
seller first.
Jim
N. Idaho
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
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> Kolb Friends -
>
> For those of you who have sold large-dollar-amount items (like airplanes
> or engines), how do you work out the payment plan?
>
> For example, let's say I found a nice, low-time 912ul engine on
> Barnstormers that I wish to purchase from an individual to give to Big
> Lar for Christmas so he can get Vamoose flying. I don't want to send a
> check for $8,000 to a stranger until the engine I just bought is
> delivered at my door. Similarly, he does not want to ship his engine to
> me until he is sure I've sent his $8,000.
>
> Is there some kind of escrow service that we can use to address this
> dilemma?
>
> I've heard of "PayPal" accounts that many folks use for purchasing stuff
> on eBay, but I don't have such an account. What are the options that
> would benefit both parties?
>
> Many thanks -
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
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Subject: | 103 & slightly overweight |
As a new owner of a near-stock Ultrastar (which I haven't yet done a W&B
on, so I don't know where it falls), I wonder:
We all know that many (if not most) otherwise supposedly 103 legal
ultralights are a bit (or more than a bit) overweight. The question is,
has anybody ever been inspected and weighed by the FAA? Obviously if you
fly into an airshow and there's an inspector there, or the local FSDO is
doing ramp checks, and you have a 2-seater or great big gas tanks or
something else blatant, you're probably asking for trouble... but I wonder
about the plane that's otherwise legal but has a few extra coats of paint,
or wheel brakes, or instruments, or whatever, that push the weigh up to 255
lbs or 260 or 270 or so... what is the real likelihood of trouble? If you
have an accident, of course, all bets are off, but even then are they
likely to actually weigh it (or all the pieces)?
BTW, the rumor is (from a "usually reliable source") that starting in
January, the feds will be doing widespread ramp checks at airports with
significant ultralight activity.
-Dana
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"If yew ain't livin' on th' edge, yer takin' up too much room!"
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
I fly out of a private grass strip in N. Idaho. Regarding a different
safety-related matter (not UL related), the Spokane FAA told us that they
would never come out [to a private strip] unless specifically invited. I
can't imagine that would hold for a fatal accident, but probably would for
routine regulatory enforcement.
BTW, 254 pounds is overweight. Regs say less than 254 pounds for an
Ultralight.
> We all know that many (if not most) otherwise supposedly 103 legal
> ultralights are a bit (or more than a bit) overweight. The question is,
> has anybody ever been inspected and weighed by the FAA? Obviously if you
> fly into an airshow and there's an inspector there, or the local FSDO is
> doing ramp checks, and you have a 2-seater or great big gas tanks or
> something else blatant, you're probably asking for trouble... but I wonder
> about the plane that's otherwise legal but has a few extra coats of paint,
> or wheel brakes, or instruments, or whatever, that push the weigh up to
> 255
> lbs or 260 or 270 or so... what is the real likelihood of trouble? If you
> have an accident, of course, all bets are off, but even then are they
> likely to actually weigh it (or all the pieces)?
>
> BTW, the rumor is (from a "usually reliable source") that starting in
> January, the feds will be doing widespread ramp checks at airports with
> significant ultralight activity.
>
> -Dana
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
This subject continues to confuse me..... Everything I read says that fat ULs are
going to be worthless if they are not transitioned into SP. I see people selling
them, and trying to find 103 compliant ships to replace them. I have to
say, I don't get it. My single place firestar will be no more illeagal after
Jan 31st than it is now. The FAA has always turned a blind eye to single place
ULs that are over weight. I have seen nothing from them that leads me to
believe that this will change. The people who I have heard this from are people
like Jim Stephenson at ASC who stand to make financial gains from this whole
SP thing.
Don't get me wrong, for people who want to fly 2 place or faster planes, I think
SP is great. But my opinion is that single place ULs that look like an Ultralight
(tube and fabric), carry 5 gals of gas, and seem to fit the "spirit" of
part 103 will see very little enforcement. Just don't get caught doing something
stupid, or make an emergency landing in the wrong place. Then they probably
will make an example out of you.
In answer to your question, I have never been ramp checked, and never heard of
any UL being weighed by the FAA unless it was involved in an accident.
End of Rant.
Bryan Dever
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
At 05:50 PM 12/27/2006, FLYMICHIGAN@comcast.net wrote:
>In answer to your question, I have never been ramp checked, and never
>heard of any UL being weighed by the FAA unless it was involved in an accident.
Hmmm, yes, I guess the question is has anybody ever heard of an UL being
weighed by the FAA even *after* an accident? Unless, of course, they had
reason to believe the weight led to the accident.
Most of the UL accidents and incidents I've heard of, the FAA doesn't even
investigate if the police report (if there is one) makes it look like a
legal ultralight.
-Dana
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"Makers of oils will assure you their lubricants will last the life of the
transmission. This may be true, but that life can be longer if you change
the oil.
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
You're buying me an engine ?? Gee, you're a wonderful guy, but Christmas is
past, so I guess I'll just hafta wait till next year, eh ??
I've also heard that PayPal has an escrow service, but I'd be very, very
careful. PayPal is OK, I'm told, but I've had a huge amount of spam using
the PayPal name, and it makes me very nervous. Lar.
P.S. 1 of these days we gotta get together and at least say hello, since
I'm only about 65 miles away. Right now I'm up to my ears in the new job,
and pretty much working 7 days a week. No relief in sight, but the
weather's been terrible, so nothing else to do anyway.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Payment Question
> <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
>
> Kolb Friends -
>
> For those of you who have sold large-dollar-amount items (like airplanes
> or engines), how do you work out the payment plan?
>
> For example, let's say I found a nice, low-time 912ul engine on
> Barnstormers that I wish to purchase from an individual to give to Big
> Lar for Christmas so he can get Vamoose flying. I don't want to send a
> check for $8,000 to a stranger until the engine I just bought is
> delivered at my door. Similarly, he does not want to ship his engine to
> me until he is sure I've sent his $8,000.
>
> Is there some kind of escrow service that we can use to address this
> dilemma?
>
> I've heard of "PayPal" accounts that many folks use for purchasing stuff
> on eBay, but I don't have such an account. What are the options that
> would benefit both parties?
>
> Many thanks -
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
>
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Subject: | 103 & slightly overweight |
It's more likely that the "usually reliable source" will become and
unreliable source than there will be a increase in ramp checks.
>From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: 103 & slightly overweight
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:16:38 -0500
>
>
>As a new owner of a near-stock Ultrastar (which I haven't yet done a W&B
>on, so I don't know where it falls), I wonder:
>
>We all know that many (if not most) otherwise supposedly 103 legal
>ultralights are a bit (or more than a bit) overweight. The question is,
>has anybody ever been inspected and weighed by the FAA? Obviously if you
>fly into an airshow and there's an inspector there, or the local FSDO is
>doing ramp checks, and you have a 2-seater or great big gas tanks or
>something else blatant, you're probably asking for trouble... but I wonder
>about the plane that's otherwise legal but has a few extra coats of paint,
>or wheel brakes, or instruments, or whatever, that push the weigh up to 255
>lbs or 260 or 270 or so... what is the real likelihood of trouble? If you
>have an accident, of course, all bets are off, but even then are they
>likely to actually weigh it (or all the pieces)?
>
>BTW, the rumor is (from a "usually reliable source") that starting in
>January, the feds will be doing widespread ramp checks at airports with
>significant ultralight activity.
>
> -Dana
>--
>--
>"If yew ain't livin' on th' edge, yer takin' up too much room!"
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
but Christmas is past, >>
Hi Lar,
but Christmas is like the Ides of March `come Ceasar but not yet gone`. You
could still be lucky.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
if it looks legal ,, you probrobly won't ever get checked
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 103 & slightly overweight
>
> As a new owner of a near-stock Ultrastar (which I haven't yet done a W&B
> on, so I don't know where it falls), I wonder:
>
> We all know that many (if not most) otherwise supposedly 103 legal
> ultralights are a bit (or more than a bit) overweight. The question is,
> has anybody ever been inspected and weighed by the FAA? Obviously if you
> fly into an airshow and there's an inspector there, or the local FSDO is
> doing ramp checks, and you have a 2-seater or great big gas tanks or
> something else blatant, you're probably asking for trouble... but I wonder
> about the plane that's otherwise legal but has a few extra coats of paint,
> or wheel brakes, or instruments, or whatever, that push the weigh up to
> 255 lbs or 260 or 270 or so... what is the real likelihood of trouble? If
> you have an accident, of course, all bets are off, but even then are they
> likely to actually weigh it (or all the pieces)?
>
> BTW, the rumor is (from a "usually reliable source") that starting in
> January, the feds will be doing widespread ramp checks at airports with
> significant ultralight activity.
>
> -Dana
> --
> --
> "If yew ain't livin' on th' edge, yer takin' up too much room!"
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
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| if it looks legal ,, you probrobly won't ever get checked
Ron:
What does legal look like?
And, do you think is really that dumb, that they do not know what
weighs less than 254 lbs?
I think everyone will probably agree, there are very, very few, if
any, legal ULs out there flying.
I am speaking of airplanes, not trikes and powered parachutes.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | 103 and slightly overweight |
I asked the gentleman about this when he did my inspection. He said that
the FAA was too busy to hunt you down and weigh you, however, you better
not screw up to the point that they are called in to investigate something
you do. That`s when the poop will hit the whirling. blades. Lanny
N598LF Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
I guess that I might as well chip in.
It is my thoughts that after Jan there will be an increase in attention paid
to pilots as to their qualifications but the "UL's" have at least another
year after that I believe before they have to make the transition. After the
transition date then I do believe that they will begin an increase in
checks, since there should be no confusion to what is 103 and what is not.
Of course most enforcement is geared to trouble areas. If there are areas of
complaints, checks are always the next step. I do believe that the FAA is
understaffed enough to not go out looking for area to write tickets or what
ever it is that they write. I personally do not think that I will get my
shorts in a tangle over it, but I do intend to be legal by the deadline, or
I will stay out in my quiet little desert and keep a low profile.
Larry, Oregon
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
| weighs less than 254 lbs?
Hi Gang:
Should have read, "And..........do you think the FAA is really that
dumb, that they do not know what weighs less than 254?"
Poor proof reading, no proof reading on my part. ;-(
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
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| Larry, Oregon
Larry:
At your house, profile doesn't matter. You could fly naked and no one
but the coyotes, antelopes, dogs, birds, and Karen would know.
Larry has a great place to fly, and an airplane sure makes his travel
around the desert much easier and faster.
john h
mkIII
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Larry,
I'd like to take a look. Is it your airplane? I am in Springfield, Va. I'll
be back after this weekend. Would you mind discussing it on the phone (or Kolb's
in general?) My cell number is 850-543-1134. If you don't mind I'd be
happy to give you a call if you send your number or give me a call at your convenience.
I haven't decided if I want to build or buy.
Thanks,
Rique
-----Original Message-----
From: Cat36Fly@aol.com
Sent: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kold in Fl
There is a MKlllx about hrs driving time north of in Md. If you are interested
I can give you directions or you could fly into MD1 (Massey Aerodrome) in Massey
Md.
Larry Tasker
MKlllx 582
N615RT
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
good question john,,,,,,,,,,been a long day
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 103 & slightly overweight
>
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> Ron:
>
> What does legal look like?
>
> And, do you think is really that dumb, that they do not know what
> weighs less than 254 lbs?
>
> I think everyone will probably agree, there are very, very few, if
> any, legal ULs out there flying.
>
> I am speaking of airplanes, not trikes and powered parachutes.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
-- "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net> wrote:
if it looks legal ,, you probrobly won't ever get checked
Not true. The FAA isn't dumb. It isn't a 103 ultralight if it has 2
seats, has a 503 or larger engine, or carries more than 5 gallons of
fuel. The local police is already preparing for the crackdown here in
Minnesota and are being trained on what to look for. You guys that
think the FAA isn't going to do anything because they are
understaffed, better think again. I suppose it's a lot like driving a
little over the legal limit for alcohol. There are many that think
they won't get caught.
I flew my Firestar 20 years without a license guys.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar, 319 lbs
(a little over the legal limit)
Sport Pilot
N91493
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
Should I hold my breath ?? Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
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From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Payment Question
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> but Christmas is past, >>
>
> Hi Lar,
>
> but Christmas is like the Ides of March `come Ceasar but not yet gone`.
> You could still be lucky.
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Subject: | Re: Full enclosure |
New Progress....Update pictures are here :
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=4929#4929
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Gotta Fly...
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Steve,
I'd like to talk to you about both planes. Can you send me your number via direct
email and I'll give you a call if that is O.K. with you?
Thanks,
Rique
-----Original Message-----
From: N27SB@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kold in Fl
In a message dated 12/23/2006 4:50:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, riquenkelly@aol.com
writes:
Kolb experts,
I just subscribed. I am seriously considering purchasing a Kolb Mark III kit
or already constructed airplane. I just sold my last plane and am itching to
get back into something. I like alot of the Kolb features on the website but
I can't find one to see in person. I am in the Fl panhandle for the holidays
and live in D.C. Anybody have a Kolb near me that would be willing to let me
look?
Also interested in info on making a Mark III into a float plane.
Thanks for the help,
Rique
I am in Orlando, Fl and my Firefly on Floats is in Winter Haven. A Pretty good
drive, but you are welcome to come down. I also have a MKIII kit sitting in the
shop that is for sale.
Steve Boetto
FF 007
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Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:Hard to Pull Choke on a 912 |
That's kinda a quincidence you mention a hard to pull choke on a Highlander I
just removed a choke cable assembly on a Highlander and replaced it with a
Primer on the 912 because of the same problem, I am now Building another New
Highlander Kit and that sure is not going to get the choke system and I am
rebuilding that Challenger that got blown off its tie downs a while ago and I have
a Sky Ranger coming here to build as soon as I have room
It looks like I am in the small plane building business now everyone likes my
work I guess
Ellery still in a firestar :o)
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If you're coming to Orlando, I have a Firestar II, 503 DCDI, for sale at
Florida Flying Gator's Airpark, located near Clermont, Florida, about 25 miles
West of Orlando. It is listed on Barnstormers for $9,500. My friend has a
custom trailer for it (I bought the plane from him) for $2,500. Both are in
great shape. I'm selling because I'm buying an amphibian.
Tom Yowell
(407) 448-9974
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Subject: | Re: Payment Question |
After the Problems I have had with pay pal I would not recomend it! or
someone from another country will be living off your bank acount dont ask me how
I
found that out
Ellery
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
At 08:09 PM 12/27/2006, Ralph wrote:
>-- "ron wehba" <rwehba@cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>if it looks legal ,, you probrobly won't ever get checked
>
>Not true. The FAA isn't dumb. It isn't a 103 ultralight if it has 2
>seats, has a 503 or larger engine, or carries more than 5 gallons of
>fuel...
Right, all those things are obvious... but 10 or 20 (not 50 or 100) extra
pounds are a lot less obvious (I hope) on a bird with one seat, a 5 gallon
tank, and a Cuyuna...
-Dana
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A rolling stone .... kills worms
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Subject: | Re: 103 & slightly overweight |
Let's think about this, how many fat ultralight type aircraft fly
into Sun & Fun and Oshkosh each year. They were limiting those
flying in the ultralight area to 5 gallons of fuel, but that's all I
have heard of. If you screw up or do things you shouldn't they might
look at you closer. Look like an UL, act like a UL, sound like a UL,
then you must be a UL. Use a radio, sound like you know what your
doing, be courteous to other aircraft, learn proper procedures for
operating in a airport traffic pattern, you'll generally be just find.
jerb
At 04:16 PM 12/27/2006, you wrote:
>
>As a new owner of a near-stock Ultrastar (which I haven't yet done a
>W&B on, so I don't know where it falls), I wonder:
>
>We all know that many (if not most) otherwise supposedly 103 legal
>ultralights are a bit (or more than a bit) overweight. The question
>is, has anybody ever been inspected and weighed by the
>FAA? Obviously if you fly into an airshow and there's an inspector
>there, or the local FSDO is doing ramp checks, and you have a
>2-seater or great big gas tanks or something else blatant, you're
>probably asking for trouble... but I wonder about the plane that's
>otherwise legal but has a few extra coats of paint, or wheel brakes,
>or instruments, or whatever, that push the weigh up to 255 lbs or
>260 or 270 or so... what is the real likelihood of trouble? If you
>have an accident, of course, all bets are off, but even then are
>they likely to actually weigh it (or all the pieces)?
>
>BTW, the rumor is (from a "usually reliable source") that starting
>in January, the feds will be doing widespread ramp checks at
>airports with significant ultralight activity.
>
> -Dana
>--
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>"If yew ain't livin' on th' edge, yer takin' up too much room!"
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