Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/05/07


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 02:35 AM - Re: x in the mark III (Todd Fredricks)
     2. 05:38 AM - New seals for Rotax 447 (olendorf)
     3. 05:54 AM - Rotax B box (olendorf)
     4. 06:30 AM - Transitioning ultralight to ELSA ()
     5. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City, NV (John Hauck)
     6. 06:42 AM - Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA (Jim Kmet)
     7. 06:44 AM - Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA (robert bean)
     8. 07:32 AM - Re: Re: MV 07 (TheWanderingWench)
     9. 07:33 AM - Re: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb Pilots  (TheWanderingWench)
    10. 08:10 AM - Re: Brake option for light Kolbs (olendorf)
    11. 08:50 AM - Re: Rotax B box (Richard Pike)
    12. 09:57 AM - Re: Rotax B box (Ralph)
    13. 09:58 AM - MV fly in (pat ladd)
    14. 10:38 AM - Re: Rotax B box (Eugene Zimmerman)
    15. 10:58 AM - Re: Rotax B box (HShack@aol.com)
    16. 11:04 AM - Re: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb Pilots (David Key)
    17. 08:58 PM - Re: Rotax B box (olendorf)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:35:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: x in the mark III
    From: Todd Fredricks <flyingfox@copper.net>
    Send some photos Craig. Sounds Great! Todd On 1/4/07 5:46 PM, "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com> wrote: > Happy new year all > I have re-installed the engine after the oil seal was replaced and put th e > cowling on. We decided to started it up and do some tests before the fina l > inspection with the faa. The sound is defiantly different. Much quieter. I > decided to taxi and see how all the oil lines were doing and get the temp s up > check the H2O system ect. Inspected everything, now check it at higher > rpm=B9s=8Bcheck the two ignitions it looks good, then decided to do a fast ta xi. > WOW my heart pounding as I put the usual power setting I have come accust om to > and she leaped into the air 50 60 feet! I just wanted to taxi at 50 mph. I was > trying to keep her just above the runway and settle back to earth. But no she > wanted in the air. Me fighting her, trying to coax her back to the ground =8Bbut > no-- like a dolphin, up and down. The air speed was 70 no 80, pull the > throttle back Oh! She=B9s coming down to fast. Put a little power in 60 man , the > run way is shrinking underneath me---time for power and get altitude and go > around. No doors 4850 rpm and I an indicating 90! I come around set up th e > approach come across the fence at 65 hold err off hold err off, power bac k a > little---oh! Cross wind left aileron hold--- hold-- a little=8Boh=8Bbounce-- more > power=8Bease it out=8Brudder -- and then settle to the runway. MAN! I had suc h a > grasp on the stick my arm now feels like I=B9ve been to the gym. You may > remember my post about air speed and could not get over 60 mph. I did jus t a > few hops and when we went to the dry lake bead the oil seal .went out. So the > time in the air has been minimal. I=B9m surprised John H or some one did no t > spot my problem at MV. No pitch! In the time we had spent on doing the re pair > from the 4th of July incident I forgot where to pick the pitch with the > protractor. We had maybe 5 or 6 degrees only. I=B9m embarrassed to admit we did > not look for the proper procedure to pith the prop. John I put the X bac k on > the extra along with your pitch number as a starting point, using the > protractor at the tip of the blade This bird wants blue sky!!. A few year s ago > the speed we saw was 80 mph with doors off. today 90 with doors off and l ower > power settings with the cowling. The temps were good, but today was a coo l 70 > degrees in Maricopa. It looks good. > Have lots of success this year in all you do, and happy flying! > Uncle craig > Do not archive > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:38:19 AM PST US
    Subject: New seals for Rotax 447
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    So today I decided it was a good time to remove my 447 and replace the front and rear oil seals. I have noticed a little oil dripping from the front of the engine after flying and figured it was a leaky seal. I should have replaced them at 150 hours when I decarboned I guess. Did you ever see the gearbox section that has the two open holes? Everyone looks at those holes and asks why they aren't capped off. Rotax says this is the way it is supposed to be. Did you wonder if anything gets in there? I was removing the gear box when I saw this. It looks like something was making a nest. Probably a spider. I can't figure out why they needed all that gravel though. The funny thing was I noticed pieces of gravel on the engine mount once and was really confused how it got there. It wouldn't hurt anything since this is just a spacer. By the way did any of you guys notice the price for Rotax tools lately? The flywheel puller is now over $160. [Shocked] I remember when I thought $50 was too much. The PTO gear puller is $162. I can't get the gear off so I ordered one today from Canada for $75. I didn't need the Rotax flywheel puller. I was able to use a generic $9 puller for that. I'm also going to repaint my exhaust with POR-20, high heat paint meant for manifolds. Good for 1400 degrees. Supposed to be fantastic paint as someone mentioned here a few weeks ago. See www.por15.com for all their products. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85606#85606


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    Time: 05:54:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Rotax B box
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 EP. I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. What do you think? -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611


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    Time: 06:30:14 AM PST US
    From: <kfackler@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
    I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark Gray, who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II from the same airport, is also beginning the process. Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via direct email to share your lessons learned? Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to do' or 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. My off-list email is: kfackler@ameritech.net Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / A722KWF Rochester MI


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    Time: 06:30:14 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II - new owner in Henderson/Boulder City,
    NV | | Name: John Murphy Hi John M: Welcome to the Kolb List. Got fuel at Boulder City Airport after our first Kolb Flyin at Monument Valley, Utah. Take care, john h


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    Time: 06:42:12 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
    Ken, please keep us updated, as I will be doing this same thing in about 3 months, Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <kfackler@ameritech.net> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:29 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA > > I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered > ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark > Gray, > who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II > from > the same airport, is also beginning the process. > > Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly > completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via > direct email to share your lessons learned? > > Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for > guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to do' > or > 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. > > My off-list email is: kfackler@ameritech.net > > Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! > > -Ken Fackler > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF > Rochester MI > > >


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    Time: 06:44:59 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Transitioning ultralight to ELSA
    Register it in a state that won't try to track you down for sales tax because some use the registration as a trigger. Register it in a state that requires no state registration or annual fee tax dodger BB On 5, Jan 2007, at 9:29 AM, <kfackler@ameritech.net> wrote: > > I am just beginning the process of transitioning my Mark II (registered > ultralight trainer) to Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA). Mark > Gray, > who occasionally participates here on the list and flies a Firestar II > from > the same airport, is also beginning the process. > > Is there anyone on the list who has already completed (or even nearly > completed) this process and would be willing to correspond with us via > direct email to share your lessons learned? > > Please note that we already have the kit from EAA. We're looking for > guidance beyond that, i.e., the 'rocks in the road' or 'things not to > do' or > 'it will go better if you do this rather than that' and so forth. > > My off-list email is: kfackler@ameritech.net > > Thank you in advance for any assistance or guidance you care to offer! > > -Ken Fackler > Kolb Mark II / A722KWF > Rochester MI > >


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    Time: 07:32:51 AM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: MV 07
    As I just repliedf to David Key - we haven't finalized our route plans yet - I'm in the process of working on it. But Larry has a brother a little ways north of San Antonio and I have good friends in the same general area (near Burnett) and so my first thought is to follow I-10 across southern AZ & NM and into the San Antonio area, and coming back via MV and the disorganized Kolb fly-in. That might be all we have time for - my husband will divorce me if I'm gone more than a month! Arty --- DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:56:29 A.M. Central > Standard Time, > thewanderingwench@yahoo.com writes: > > Larry Cottrell and I are planning on > flying to Texas and coming back via the MV Fly-In. > So > we'll need to change our timing if the MV weekend > changes. > > Arty > > > > Arty > > Where all in Texas are You and Larry. going > to visit?. > > > Ed ( Firefly #062 In Houston) > Do Not Archieve > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 07:33:42 AM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb Pilots
    David - Thanks very much for your generous offer. I'm working on our possible route/s now. Of course, planned routes are seldom followed :>) somehow weather causes changes! We're looking forward to an exciting flight, and we'll probably post our intended route once we've worked it out. Arty DO NOT ARCHIVE --- David Key <dhkey@msn.com> wrote: > <dhkey@msn.com> > > Larry Cottrell and Arty, > I'm not going to be able to decide if I'm going to > MV till the end of March. > But I live near Dallas Tx in an airport home (F69) > you can park your planes, > get gas, food, wash cloths, take showers and sleep > in beds right here at the > house. There are over a dozen resturants, gas > stations, a home depo, a > walmart, and a full sized shopping mall less than a > mile away. It's not as > fun as camping out but I'd be happy to have you > over. If I can't do MV I'd > still like to meet up with you on your way through > Texas. > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 08:10:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brake option for light Kolbs
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    I have been looking at those as well. Just don't have the skills to design, fabricate a mounting method. Let us know how you do it. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85643#85643


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    Time: 08:50:02 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Rotax B box
    Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal dust show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with regular gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop ----- Original Message ----- From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil > but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 > EP. > > I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. > But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. > What do you think? > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 > > >


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    Time: 09:57:56 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax B box
    I agree with Richard. Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil is the way to go. Even after a year, it's still clear with no filings on the drain plug magnet. Ralph Original Firestar 20 years flying it N91493 -- "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal dust show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with regular gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop ----- Original Message ----- From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w gear oil > but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 W - 140 > EP. > > I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this purpose. > But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any difference. > What do you think? > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd


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    Time: 09:58:04 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: MV fly in
    I see that there is a move on the list to change the date of the weekend at MV. Get yourselves sorted out please chaps. I confirmed a booking at Holiday Inn Kayenta this morning for 18th to 20th.May If there is going to be a change please do it quickly as I have flights to sort out also. Earlier would suit me fine, particularly in view of the comments about the heat and in April I may be able to get into Gouldings which would make visiting with fellow Kolbers that much easier. After all from my point of view that is the object of the visit. Definitely do not want to get involved with Red Bull. They ran a weekend about 10 miles from home last year on a day when the weather was foul. They kept putting off cancellation until late afternoon when it became too late anyway and the consequence was that all the roads for miles around were clogged with traffic trying to get in while fighting with traffic trying to get out. Absolute mayhem. It was obvious from early morning that the day was unflyable but of course Joe Public didn`t know that and started out anyway. I agree that such an isolated place as MV seems unlikely but wouldn`t it be spectacular ! Pat


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    Time: 10:38:48 AM PST US
    From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzim62@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Rotax B box
    Does anyone have experience with Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil and the E- gear box? Does the superior lubrication of the synthetic oil ever keep the starter sprag from engaging properly? On Jan 5, 2007, at 5:54 PM, Ralph wrote: > > I agree with Richard. Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil is the way to go. > Even after a year, it's still clear with no filings on the drain plug > magnet. > > Ralph > Original Firestar > 20 years flying it > N91493 > > -- "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: > > Since I went to Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube, I haven't had any metal > dust > show up on the little magnet on the drain hole. Always had dust with > regular > gear oil, regardless of oil weight. I think that makes a difference. > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > Rotax 582, B box, 2.58:1 ratio, 2 blade 68" Ivoprop > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:54 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Rotax B box > > >> >> What oil do you guys use in your "B" box? Everywhere I read 90w > gear oil >> but the Rotax manual says: Gear Oil, API-GL5 or GLSAE 140EP or 85 > W - 140 >> EP. >> >> I was initially using 80w-90 like CPS and others sell for this > purpose. >> But I have changed over to 85W140 Gear Oil. I didn't see any > difference. >> What do you think? >> >> -------- >> Scott Olendorf >> Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop >> Schenectady, NY >> http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85611#85611 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com > Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! > http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http:// > www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd > >


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    Time: 10:58:07 AM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Rotax B box
    In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:55:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, olendorf@gmail.com writes: 85 W - 140 EP. I get that weight [or close to it] at almost any auto parts house. Valvoline, full synthetic. Never see any debris on the little magnet. Howard Shackleford FS II SC


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    Time: 11:04:34 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb Pilots
    It's open to anyone on the list as long as they have a Kolb or another light plane. >From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV 07 Texas Overnight Waypoint(F69) Open to Kolb >Pilots Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 07:26:02 -0800 (PST) > ><thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> > >David - > >Thanks very much for your generous offer. I'm working >on our possible route/s now. Of course, planned >routes are seldom followed :>) somehow weather causes >changes! We're looking forward to an exciting flight, >and we'll probably post our intended route once we've >worked it out. > >Arty > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >--- David Key <dhkey@msn.com> wrote: > > > <dhkey@msn.com> > > > > Larry Cottrell and Arty, > > I'm not going to be able to decide if I'm going to > > MV till the end of March. > > But I live near Dallas Tx in an airport home (F69) > > you can park your planes, > > get gas, food, wash cloths, take showers and sleep > > in beds right here at the > > house. There are over a dozen resturants, gas > > stations, a home depo, a > > walmart, and a full sized shopping mall less than a > > mile away. It's not as > > fun as camping out but I'd be happy to have you > > over. If I can't do MV I'd > > still like to meet up with you on your way through > > Texas. > > > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > > > Web Forums! > > > > > > > > > > > > >www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com > >"Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > Helen Keller > >"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." > >


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    Time: 08:58:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax B box
    From: "olendorf" <olendorf@gmail.com>
    I guess I'll stick with the 85w-140. Synthetic seems like the way to go. Thanks. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=85812#85812




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