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1. 03:45 AM - Re: Question About Dave Pelletier (Dana Hague)
2. 04:16 AM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (planecrazzzy)
3. 04:36 AM - Re: Trottle cables 912ULS (Richard Girard)
4. 04:47 AM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (Richard Girard)
5. 04:59 AM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (Richard Girard)
6. 05:18 AM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (David Lehman)
7. 05:39 AM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (APilot@webtv.net)
8. 05:50 AM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 06:04 AM - Re: Kolb trainers/dealers! (Thom Riddle)
10. 06:18 AM - Re: Kolb trainers/dealers! (David Lehman)
11. 06:47 AM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (LEE CREECH)
12. 07:04 AM - Re: Seperating cage from boom tube (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
13. 07:53 AM - Re: Question About Dave Pelletier (Travis Brown (Kolb Aircraft))
14. 08:10 AM - Re: Bummer (David Lehman)
15. 08:15 AM - radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (Larry Cottrell)
16. 08:28 AM - Re: Question for Chris Wolf (jimhefner)
17. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Question for Chris Wolf (John Hauck)
18. 08:58 AM - DRE-6000 (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
19. 09:43 AM - Re: My Apologies let it stop list (jam-n)
20. 10:35 AM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (HShack@aol.com)
21. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (possums)
22. 12:59 PM - Re: Re: Question for Chris Wolf (Chris Wolf)
23. 01:21 PM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (planecrazzzy)
24. 03:16 PM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (Richard Pike)
25. 04:35 PM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (Jack B. Hart)
26. 05:31 PM - Re: Trottle cables 912ULS (Steven Green)
27. 05:46 PM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (Don G)
28. 06:05 PM - Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick (possums)
29. 07:38 PM - Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (John H Murphy)
30. 07:45 PM - Re: Ignition noise leaks (LEE CREECH)
31. 10:38 PM - Re: Question for Chris Wolf (jimhefner)
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| Subject: | Re: Question About Dave Pelletier |
At 11:15 PM 1/9/2007, riquenkelly@aol.com wrote:
>You might be interested to hear, one of my friends is flying MH-53's in
>the Air Force. he lost his leg below the knee in combat action. He flies
>with a prosthetic and recently took over as the commander of his
>squadron. He could run circles around me any day. Shows you what
>determination can do.
Don't forget Douglas Bader, who lost both legs in a crash in the 1930's but
went on to become one of the leading aces of the Battle of Britian.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Good info on the 180 ....Thanks
I'm not ready to turn off the key in flight , So your info will be in the back
of my mind...
Maybe if I flew in the Winter , Over a frozen lake I could do some experimenting
without worry....I guess you've got alot of flat desert below
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Trottle cables 912ULS |
Rick, Are your cables of 1 X 19 construction? Much stiffer when pushing a
control than cable of finer wire.
Rick
On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce <rap@isp.com> wrote:
>
> I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of go
> back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full trottle on
> the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable that comes stock
> with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the trottle. My buddy with
> the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty 1/8" cable to solve his
> problem. He also disconected the springs on the carbs. How has other people
> with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C
>
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>
> *
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Larry, If you're going to transmit from your base station, you'll need a
radio with a current bandwidth split, so you don't bleed over into other
channels. You can probably pick up a good used handset like the Icom A-3 or
A-4 for the house. If you just want to listen, then a good old 360 channel
radio should do just fine. These can be had for $50 bucks or less from ebay.
Might check with an avionics shop or ask around the next time your out
hangar flying.
I'm not an FCC knowledgable guy, but you might need a license for the base
station.
Rick
On 1/9/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
>
> I was finally able to fly today to check out my radio problems. I
> replaced my coax cable and since I haven't been to town, (Boise- 130 miles)
> I flew without a capacitor. I had not been able to do so before because I
> was waiting for some tire tubes and a new battery. The radio worked just
> like it always had. The wife could hear a lot of exhaust noise, but no
> static. My reception was good as well. The radio that she was using needed a
> new battery, but this was the first time I could hear her while flying. I
> think I am going to look into a base station for the place. Any good deals
> out there?
>
> Since I had a new battery and in air restarts were possible, I took it up
> to 1000 agl cut the engine and established a glide, then checked to see how
> much altitude I lost in making a 180 turn. One thing that I noticed was that
> I really had to watch my air speed. I came dangerously close to holding too
> much up stick several times. As near as I could figure I lost close to 500
> feet in just making a 180. This follows what had been posted on the list
> before, so it isn't new. However hearing and seeing are two different
> things. I am going to redo this until I get to the point that I know without
> looking what is too low.
> Larry, Oregon
> do not archive
>
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>
> *
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>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
Lee, Did you accidentally get B8ES plugs instead of BR8ES? Have you got the
metal caps on your spark plugs? Is your handheld run off batteries or ships
power?
Rick
On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH <dcreech3@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be
> more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna --
> assuming
> you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for
> airport and plane-to-plane communication."
>
> This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My
> handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but
> then
> got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise.
> (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no
> improvement.
> Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise
> leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I
> look for?
>
> Lee
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> >From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes
> has
> it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1
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>
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
A friend of mine had the same problem with a 503 and Icom handheld... Icom
told him that the handheld is very voltage sensitive and wouldn't handle the
higher voltage the regulator was putting out... He installed some kind of
resister and the Icom transmitted perfectly...
DVD
On 1/9/07, LEE CREECH <dcreech3@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be
> more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna --
> assuming
> you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite good for
> airport and plane-to-plane communication."
>
> This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My
> handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but
> then
> got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise.
> (Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no
> improvement.
> Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise
> leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I
> look for?
>
> Lee
>
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is
lot.
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Nope,
It is very good if it is a mile wide 180.
It just proves incomplete info is useless.
On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:39 AM, APilot@webtv.net wrote:
>
> Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree
> turn is
> lot.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb trainers/dealers! |
Steve,
I know there are several Kolbs in western NY, just up the road a bit
from you, some of which are two-seaters. I do not know all of them but
Bob Bean, an active member on this list who flies a MkIII knows of most
of the Kolbs in our area. He may or may not be able to help you out. I
know right now he is in Jupiter, FL for a week of R&R and off the list
while until he gets back. Find one of his past posts and send him a
direct email and see what he says.
Although I taught myself to fly an early Firestar I had many recent
hours in sorta-similar airplanes and have self-taught myself to fly
several, getting some stick time in a Kolb is a smart and safe
approach. You did not mention what you have been flying recently. That
can make a difference in how much dual Kolb time you are likely to
need.
Let us know how your Kolb dual time search goes.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb trainers/dealers! |
Thom, nice article you did in the Sport Pilot magazine...
DVD
On 1/10/07, Thom Riddle <jtriddle@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I know there are several Kolbs in western NY, just up the road a bit
> from you, some of which are two-seaters. I do not know all of them but
> Bob Bean, an active member on this list who flies a MkIII knows of most
> of the Kolbs in our area. He may or may not be able to help you out. I
> know right now he is in Jupiter, FL for a week of R&R and off the list
> while until he gets back. Find one of his past posts and send him a
> direct email and see what he says.
>
> Although I taught myself to fly an early Firestar I had many recent
> hours in sorta-similar airplanes and have self-taught myself to fly
> several, getting some stick time in a Kolb is a smart and safe
> approach. You did not mention what you have been flying recently. That
> can make a difference in how much dual Kolb time you are likely to
> need.
>
> Let us know how your Kolb dual time search goes.
>
> Thom in Buffalo
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
It doesn't have much. No battery, starter or strobe, just a Key West
rectifier/regulator which powers the handheld and GPS. I do use BR8ES
resistor plugs. Unplugging the radio from ship's power doesn't improve
matters.
Lee
>From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks
>Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:23:49 -0500
>
>
>I guess what we need to know is, what sort of electrical stuff does the
>airplane have on it? If we eliminate what it doesn't have, then it is
>easier to focus on possible problems.
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>do not archive
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:06 PM
>Subject: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks
>
>
>>
>>QUOTE FROM ROBERT LAIRD: "A good ICOM or Vertex handheld radio should be
>>more than adequate for your needs... The rubber ducky antenna --
>>assuming you don't have any ignition noise leaks on your plane -- is quite
>>good for airport and plane-to-plane communication."
>>
>>This leads me off on a tangent about the "ignition noise leaks". My
>>handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but
>>then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise.
>>(Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no
>>improvement. Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an
>>"ignition noise leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility,
>>what should I look for?
>>
>>Lee
>>
>>_________________________________________________________________
>>>From photos to predictions, The MSN Entertainment Guide to Golden Globes
>>>has
>>it all. http://tv.msn.com/tv/globes2007/?icid=nctagline1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seperating cage from boom tube |
In a message dated 1/7/2007 4:09:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ceddavis@gmail.com writes:
some cage damage
HEY CHUCK,
You didn't say what caused the damage! : >(
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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| Subject: | Re: Question About Dave Pelletier |
We have several customers flying with hand controls only.
Travis @ Kolb
----- Original Message -----
From: riquenkelly@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier
You might be interested to hear, one of my friends is flying MH-53's
in the Air Force. he lost his leg below the knee in combat action. He
flies with a prosthetic and recently took over as the commander of his
squadron. He could run circles around me any day. Shows you what
determination can do.
Cheers,
Rique
-----Original Message-----
From: WillUribe@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier
Chris,
There is a local pilot flying a modified Cessna 210 with hand
controls, he can't use the foot controls.
Regards,
Will Uribe
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Wolf"
<cwolf41@comcast.net>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Question About Dave Pelletier
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:32:19 EST, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is it a lawyer asking this question?
>>
>> No. The sister of Mike Maikowski, who died in the crash with Dave,
>> heard a rumor that Dave Pelletier was an amputee. She couldn't
>> understand how an amputee could be a pilot. I'm not sure just what
>> the FAA's stand is on amputee pilots.
>>
>> I figured it was just a crazy rumor, about Dave, and I wanted to
put
>> it to rest.
>>
>> Chris Wolf
>> cwolf41@comcast.net
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Rick...
Where are you located?...
DVD
On 1/9/07, Rick Pearce <rap@isp.com> wrote:
>
> I got my call from the FAA today on my inspection. Next May is the
> soonest he can get to it. Of course I can go hire a DAR at $500 to do my
> inspection. I've allready waited 3 month on the registration. I talked to a
> guy the other day & it took him longer to get the plane registered & flying
> than it took to build.
>
> *
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
<snip>
Maybe if I flew in the Winter , Over a frozen lake I could do some
experimenting without worry....I guess you've got alot of flat desert
below
<snip>
Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is
lot.
<snip>
Nope,
It is very good if it is a mile wide 180.
It just proves incomplete info is useless.
I think the reason that I lost so much altitude in my turn was because I
was in a mush condition. As I said in my earlier post, I found it a lot
more difficult than I thought it would be to maintain adequate air
speed. My tendency was to fly it the same way and attitude as when the
motor was running. This is not what was needed. (I recall once over the
Alvord Desert, I did some dead stick landings trying to find out which
speed would give me the longest glide. I did two four mile glides, one
at 45 mph the other at 55. The actual landing spot was less than 100
yards apart.) As I said in my earlier post, I found myself doing
between 40 and 45. Not what I wanted and definitely in a mush, still
controllable, but mush none the less. As for being able to land on the
flat desert- well you aren't going to run into anything, but the result
will still be upside down. Two foot high sage is not very forgiving.
It is true that the info is incomplete, the only thing that I learned is
that I didn't know as much about the situation as I thought I did, and
that I am going to learn more. One thing that I have found over the last
year is that when the fan isn't running and the situation is critical, I
have a tendency to do what I have been doing. In other words my actions
become automatic. So in that case the actions need to be practiced until
the proper evasive action takes place.
I actually did a 360 turn, started at 1000 agl. The first 180 was a lot
flatter, I think because I was a lot more comfortable with the altitude,
and I flew it better (faster). The second was the eye opener, where I
found myself looking at the ground and subconsciously pulling more
elevator, thus losing more altitude. The turns were tight as they would
be if I were in a take off condition.
You will never be able to get complete information, unless we can talk
Jack into making it. :-)
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Question for Chris Wolf |
Chris,
Sorry about your loss! Thanks for posting the photo of Mike. Yes, it is very
hard to understand how this accident happened under perfect conditions with 2
very experienced pilots. We may never know exactly what happened. I think this
should be a lesson to all of us to always be on our guard, even in the most
perfect conditions. The ballistic parachute probably could not have been deployed
from such a low altitude since they were likely trying to fly the plane.
There is a delayed reaction to realizing you need to pull the handle and they
didn't have much time.
Here is a picture of Dave since you said you had not seen a picture of him.
Best of luck to you!
Jim
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Jim Hefner
Kolbless in Tucson :(
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| Subject: | Re: Question for Chris Wolf |
The ballistic parachute probably could not have been deployed from
such a low altitude since they were likely trying to fly the plane.
There is a delayed reaction to realizing you need to pull the handle
and they didn't have much time.
|
Jim:
The ballistic parachute handle can be pulled at any time prior to
impact. Never give up until you are finished crashing.
I have one save at 250 feet AGL and another at 500 feet AGL with a Jim
Handbury hand deployed parachute. The BRS deploys much faster than my
hand tossed model did.
john h
mkIII
PS: One of my favorite photos of Arizona Dave. Thanks.
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Kolbers -
Several months ago, ANR headsets were discussed on the List, and I
detected overall positive reports about the DRE-6000. Well, I finally
decided to buy one, only to discover that this headset is no longer
offered at Aircraft Spruce, or at Tropic Aero. (Price was listed as
$299.)
Anybody know where I can still get one of these?
Many thanks -
Dennis Kirby
Looking for a quieter environment in my Mark-III, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | My Apologies let it stop list |
>now what am I here after?
then u realize that it is there... after. well, once u remember and since
couldnt find it, u realize that when here after... it is always there
after... u remeber.
for its always the last place we look. well, so it seems. lol
regards
~barnstormer~
ok to archive, BUT prob best not to...
>
>Its ok ... really. The Bible talks about flying, Well, I don't know about you,
but many of us are getting>older and do start thinking more about the hereafter.
Like you walk into>your shop (working on your Kolb, of course) and when
you get there you ask>your self, now what am I here after?
>
>Dennis
>
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
In a message dated 1/10/2007 8:40:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
APilot@webtv.net writes:
Do you have flaps on your airplane? 500 ft loss in a 180 degree turn is
lot.
Yeah, I can do it in 200 ft. in my FSII [barely}.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
At 07:16 AM 1/10/2007, you wrote:
>
>Good info on the 180 ....Thanks
>
>I'm not ready to turn off the key in flight , So your info will be
>in the back of my mind...
>
>Maybe if I flew in the Winter , Over a frozen lake I could do some
>experimenting without worry....I guess you've got alot of flat desert below
>
>Gotta Fly...
It's like riding a bicycle no worries mate,....and this was on a bumpy day.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9177096133625180462&hl=en
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| Subject: | Re: Question for Chris Wolf |
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:27:55 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Chris,
>
>Sorry about your loss! Thanks for posting the photo of Mike. Yes, it is
>very hard to understand how this accident happened under perfect
>conditions with 2 very experienced pilots. We may never know exactly what
>happened. I think this should be a lesson to all of us to always be on
>our guard, even in the most perfect conditions. The ballistic parachute
>probably could not have been deployed from such a low altitude since they
>were likely trying to fly the plane. There is a delayed reaction to
>realizing you need to pull the handle and they didn't have much time.
I think you're probably right. Apparently the accident happened only a few
hundred feet up. By the time they realized they were in real trouble, they
were probably striking the ground. The only way to hope to save yourself
in such a situation is to pull the handle the moment the plane even
threatens to go out of control, and that's not really practical under
normal piloting conditions. You'd be pulling the handle every time you hit
turbulence, or a thermal.
Mike and I flew a powered parachute (PPC) for six years before deciding to
get a Kolb. As an old skydiver whose life was saved twice by my reserve
parachute, I'm a firm believer in backup parachutes. When we got our PPC,
I insisted on putting a ballistic parachute on it. I think it was the only
PPC in the world equipped with a ballistic parachute. Most PPC pilots
think they don't need a ballistic parachute, since they already have a
parachute wing over their heads. Which is something I completely disagree
with. Any flying machine can fall out of the sky, and can benefit from a
backup parachute.
Whenever Mike and I flew our PPC, the guy on the ground would watch the
PPC's wing from the moment of takeoff, until the machine reached an
altitude of one thousand feet. That way, if anything went seriously wrong,
the guy on the ground would see it before the pilot, and could radio a
warning to the pilot to immediately fire the ballistic parachute. We never
even came close to using the ballistic parachute, but both Mike and I were
always ready to use it at a moment's notice. When Mike called me from
Arizona, on Sunday night, to tell me that Dave's plane was equipped with a
ballistic parachute, I was delighted.
I've often wondered if I had been there, on Monday morning, while Mike and
Dave were flying, and had been watching the plane take off, if I might have
had time to radio a warning to them if I saw the plane going out of
control, in time for them to fire the rocket.
Probably not. By the time of the accident they would have been flying for
several hours, and I probably would have been off somewhere, getting myself
a cup of coffee. And even if I was there, watching them take off, by the
time I realized they were definitely in trouble, it probably would have
been too late for the ballistic parachute to do any good.
Still, I'll always wonder. Was I not there for my buddy when he needed me?
Would my presence have made a difference? These are the questions that
still haunt me.
>Here is a picture of Dave since you said you had not seen a picture of him.
>Best of luck to you!
Thanks very much, Jim.
Chris Wolf
cwolf41@comcast.net
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Hey Possum,
Too Cool ! I like the camera view too !
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
Since you are using resistor plugs, that is not likely the problem.
(I do not use resistor plugs, and have no ignition noise problems. Another
thread...)
There are several sources for electrical noise. All of them center around
wires carrying alternating current to somewhere in the cockpit or near the
antenna. DC wires do not normally carry anything that makes noise. The
easiest way to get rid of radio noise is to shield any wires carrying A/C,
like kill switches and tach.
For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is two
or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the
shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for
the tach.
If your Key West is a long way from the engine, then your unshielded A/C
wires are acting as an antenna between the engine and the Key West. Shield
those wires and ground them at the engine end, especially if they are close
to the antenna.
If the noise rises and falls as you rev the engine, then it might be
ignition, but in my experience, ignition is a small component of overall
radio noise. Most of the noise comes from wires in the harness that are
carring alternating current from within the magneto, typically the tach and
kill switch wires.
If you are using an external antenna, consider switching to a rubber duck.
Experiment with the external antenna grounded/ungrounded to the airframe and
see if anything changes. And when using the radio seperate from the aircraft
power supply, make sure the radio batteries are hot.
Let us know what you find out - got to build up the database ya' know...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
----- Original Message -----
From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks
My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but
then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise.
(Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement.
Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise
leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I
look for?
- Type equipment on board?-
It doesn't have much. No battery, starter or strobe, just a Key West
rectifier/regulator which powers the handheld and GPS. I do use BR8ES
resistor plugs. Unplugging the radio from ship's power doesn't improve
matters.
Lee
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
At 06:15 PM 1/10/07 -0500, you wrote:
>
>For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is two
>or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the
>shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for
>the tach.
Lee,
I found most of my problems stemmed from the kill switch wires. After I put
the kill switches back on the engine and activated them with woven fish
line, I had no ignition noise in the radio. Shielding as Richard states
will be a big help and may be easier than moving the kill switches. You may
want to use very small coax cable. It might be a little lighter.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Trottle cables 912ULS |
Rick,
The cable should be in tension when going to idle, not pushing.
Steven Green
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Pearce
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Trottle cables 912ULS
I'm haveing trouble with my trottle cable wanting to buckle instead of
go back to idle. You are fighting the springs that want to go full
trottle on the carbs and the drag in the cable system. The 1/16" cable
that comes stock with the plane wants bend right at the swivel on the
trottle. My buddy with the Highlander went & spent $150 for a heavy duty
1/8" cable to solve his problem. He also disconected the springs on the
carbs. How has other people with Kolbs flying the 912's solved this
problem? Rick Pearce Kolb MK3C
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
Great Video Possums!..
Shows how good a Kolb flies with a fella sitting on the horizontal, one hand wrapped
around the rudder..holding the camera! :)
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Don G
FireFly#098
http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
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| Subject: | Re: radios, capacitor and observations on dead stick |
At 08:46 PM 1/10/2007, you wrote:
>
>Great Video Possums!..
>Shows how good a Kolb flies with a fella sitting on the horizontal,
>one hand wrapped around the rudder..holding the camera! :)
>
>--------
>Don G
>FireFly#098
Well .... I put a saddle on the boom tube for anyone that wants a ride.
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| Subject: | Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar |
This is forum has a wealth of information. I've been going through most of the
old posts. Thanks to all that have contributed. My question: I have a Firestar
that I yet to fly. Any recommendations as to a aircraft to get some transition
time in prior to flying my Kolb? Ideally it would be a Kolb two seater w. dual
controls. I live near Las Vegas, NV/Boulder City, NV, Henderson, NV. The chances
of finding someone with a Kolb that would mind giving me some air time seems
remote. I guess my question is what aircraft comes close to the characteristics
of the Kolb that is commonly found in the aviation community?
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition noise leaks |
The wiring harness that includes the kill switch and tach wires does in fact
run near the radio, (along the bottom left side of the cockpit) but that
didn't seem to be an issue until SOMETHING changed.
Lee
>From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:15:29 -0500
>
>
>Since you are using resistor plugs, that is not likely the problem.
>(I do not use resistor plugs, and have no ignition noise problems. Another
>thread...)
>There are several sources for electrical noise. All of them center around
>wires carrying alternating current to somewhere in the cockpit or near the
>antenna. DC wires do not normally carry anything that makes noise. The
>easiest way to get rid of radio noise is to shield any wires carrying A/C,
>like kill switches and tach.
>For your kill switch wires, try using microphone cable. Typically, it is
>two or three wires inside a tinfoil or woven shield. Ground one end of the
>shield to the engine, do not ground the other end of the shield. Same for
>the tach.
>If your Key West is a long way from the engine, then your unshielded A/C
>wires are acting as an antenna between the engine and the Key West. Shield
>those wires and ground them at the engine end, especially if they are close
>to the antenna.
>
>If the noise rises and falls as you rev the engine, then it might be
>ignition, but in my experience, ignition is a small component of overall
>radio noise. Most of the noise comes from wires in the harness that are
>carring alternating current from within the magneto, typically the tach and
>kill switch wires.
>
>If you are using an external antenna, consider switching to a rubber duck.
>Experiment with the external antenna grounded/ungrounded to the airframe
>and see if anything changes. And when using the radio seperate from the
>aircraft power supply, make sure the radio batteries are hot.
>Let us know what you find out - got to build up the database ya' know...
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE CREECH" <dcreech3@hotmail.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:47 AM
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ignition noise leaks
>
>
>My handheld Yuasa worked okay in my 503-powered Firestar II for years, but
>then got so that when I transmit, all I seem to put out is engine noise.
>(Reception is still okay). I had the radio overhauled with no improvement.
>Could something have changed about the engine -- i.e., an "ignition noise
>leak" that wasn't there before? If this is a possibility, what should I
>look for?
>- Type equipment on board?-
>It doesn't have much. No battery, starter or strobe, just a Key West
>rectifier/regulator which powers the handheld and GPS. I do use BR8ES
>resistor plugs. Unplugging the radio from ship's power doesn't improve
>matters.
>Lee
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Question for Chris Wolf |
John, I agree BRS's and other chutes can and have saved lives at very low altitudes.
I also suspect that when there is one person on-board, like in your situations,
the decision making is more clear and immediate than when there are two
on-board... therefore at low altitude I suspect it is less likely a chute will
be deployed in time due to continued attempts to right the situation, confusion,
panic, etc. Just a theory... could be wrong. Everyone flying with chutes
should make sure they remove the safety pin before going up since that is
not something you want to try to do when in an emergency situation.
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Kolbless in Tucson :(
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