Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/12/07


Total Messages Posted: 32



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     1. 01:58 AM - Re: Red Bull (pat ladd)
     2. 04:08 AM - Transition aircraft (Lanny Fetterman)
     3. 04:21 AM - Re: Red Bull (Larry Bourne)
     4. 04:26 AM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (APilot@webtv.net)
     5. 04:47 AM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (Richard Girard)
     6. 04:54 AM - VA humor (Richard Girard)
     7. 06:03 AM - Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (planecrazzzy)
     8. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (pat ladd)
     9. 08:06 AM - Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (WillUribe@aol.com)
    10. 08:45 AM - Re: Trottle cables 912ULS  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
    11. 09:08 AM - Re: DRE-6000 (jimhefner)
    12. 09:37 AM - Little details.... (planecrazzzy)
    13. 10:02 AM - Re: Little details.... (John Hauck)
    14. 10:49 AM - Re: Trottle cables (possums)
    15. 12:43 PM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (Keith Callfas)
    16. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS (Vic Peters)
    17. 02:00 PM - Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter (planecrazzzy)
    18. 02:10 PM - Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb (Mike Pierzina)
    19. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter (John Hauck)
    20. 02:24 PM - Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter (planecrazzzy)
    21. 03:20 PM - Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb (Richard Pike)
    22. 04:20 PM - Firestar w/ Trailer For Sale (flymichigan@comcast.net)
    23. 06:01 PM - Mark 3 Xtra for Sale (Robert Mason)
    24. 06:11 PM - Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb (Bob Noyer)
    25. 07:12 PM - Re: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale (Kolbdriver)
    26. 08:32 PM - Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb (possums)
    27. 08:54 PM - Re: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS (APilot@webtv.net)
    28. 08:58 PM - Re: Little details.... (APilot@webtv.net)
    29. 09:04 PM - Sport pilot ? (possums)
    30. 09:29 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do you use? (Arksey@aol.com)
    31. 09:38 PM - Re: Little details.... (possums)
    32. 11:15 PM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (Ed Chmielewski)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:58:01 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Red Bull
    red bull is owned buy a real aviation lover they come to our ultralight fly inn's >> Hi Malcolm, Thats really nice but it doesn`t get over the problem of massive crowds and a crimp in local flying at an actual air race event. The crowds have to be seen to be believed. That is not what I was hoping for in the middle of a desert. I was expecting to find a resonably quiet campsite with a chance to BBQ and chat with the people on this list with whom I have only corresponded and hopefully to scrounge a lift in someones 2 seater. Cheers Pat do not archive


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    Time: 04:08:11 AM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho@uplink.net>
    Subject: Transition aircraft
    John, I agree with Bob, It all depends on what flying skills you already have. IMO it`s cheaper and easier to get some dual time, then it is to replace landing gear and bent cage tubes. As they say, don`t ask me how I know ! Lanny Fetterman N598LF


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    Time: 04:21:44 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Red Bull
    I agree with you, Pat. I'm real wary of events like that. Went to 'em - race tracks, etc when I was much younger, but want no part of the furor now. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: pat ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:57 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Red Bull red bull is owned buy a real aviation lover they come to our ultralight fly inn's >> Hi Malcolm, Thats really nice but it doesn`t get over the problem of massive crowds and a crimp in local flying at an actual air race event. The crowds have to be seen to be believed. That is not what I was hoping for in the middle of a desert. I was expecting to find a resonably quiet campsite with a chance to BBQ and chat with the people on this list with whom I have only corresponded and hopefully to scrounge a lift in someones 2 seater. Cheers Pat do not archive


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    Time: 04:26:16 AM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    Re: High speed taxi..........they can be dangerous. It is easier in a tricycle gear airplane. Kolbs are easy to fly for a tail dragger, but they are still tail draggers and required caution. Some practice on a flight simulator might help. I like the J-3 Cub on Microsoft's FS 2004 simulator.


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    Time: 04:47:39 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    John, In a tricycle gear airplane high speed taxiing is no big deal. In a tail dragger, even one as nicely mannered as a Kolb, welllllllllll, hmmmm. I'm not an expert by any stretch, but I'd go with the nays. The reason is pretty simple. While the tires are still touching the ground a taildragger is unstable because the CG is behind the main gear. Cross winds and ham handed control inputs can put you out of control too quickly to recover. Once those tires leave the ground stability returns and you are much safer. Rick On 1/11/07, John H Murphy <jhm9812@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed > taxi runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of > feet and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed > runs..take off. Any comments on this? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87016#87016 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 04:54:38 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: VA humor
    A Letter FROM A FARM KID, (NOW AT SAN DIEGO MARINE CORPS RECRUIT TRAINING) Dear Ma and Pa, I am well. Hope you are. Tell Brother Walt and Brother Elmer the Marine Corps beats working for old man Minch by a mile. Tell them to join up quick before all of the places are filled. I was restless at first because you got to stay in bed till nearly 6 a.m. but I am getting so I like to sleep late. Tell Walt and Elmer all you do before breakfast is smooth your cot, and shine some things. No hogs to slop, feed to pitch, mash to mix, wood to split, fire to lay. Practically nothing. Men got to shave but it is not so bad, there's warm water. Breakfast is strong on trimmings like fruit juice, cereal, eggs, bacon, etc., but kind of weak on chops, potatoes, ham, steak, fried eggplant, pie and other regular food, but tell Walt and Elmer you can always sit by the two city boys that live on coffee. Their food plus yours holds you until noon when you get fed again. It's no wonder these city boys can't walk much. We go on "route marches," which the platoon sergeant says are long walks to harden us. If he thinks so, it's not my place to tell him different. A "route march" is about as far as to our mailbox at home. Then the city guys get sore feet and we all ride back in trucks. The country is nice but awful flat . The sergeant is like a school teacher. He nags a lot. The Captain is like the school board. Majors and Colonels just ride around and frown. They don't bother you none. This next will kill Walt and Elmer with laughing. I keep getting medals for shooting. I don't know why. The bulls-eye is near as big as a chipmunk head and don't move, and it ain't shooting at you like the Higgett boys at home. All you got to do is lie there all comfortable and hit it. You don't even load your own cartridges. They come in boxes. Then we have what they call hand-to-hand combat training. You get to wrestle with them city boys. I have to be real careful though, they break real easy. It ain't like fighting with that ole bull at home. I'm about the best they got in this except for that Tug Jordan from over in Silver Lake. I only beat him once. He joined up the same time as me, but I'm only 5'6" and 130 pounds and he's 6'8" and near 300 pounds dry. Be sure to tell Walt and Elmer to hurry and join before other fellers get onto this setup and come stampeding in. Your loving daughter, Alice -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 06:03:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Yeah , I've got "MY" opinion.....That DOESN'T sound good to me.... Lemme splain.... Before I "Took off" , I did some fast taxi and flew the tail..... That's OK....But as I did a faster taxi and the plane got "light" That wasn't a good place to be....either on the ground or in the air .... and Two Feet ? I shot for 10....give yourself a little room.....Even with 10 your still in "ground effect" so if you climb out ....Make sure your airspeed is good.... You could get into trouble playing around with it too close to the ground " MY Opinion " I have a story about my first flight ( and second ) I'll try to find them for you.....it might be in this forum ....? Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87058#87058


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    Time: 07:38:32 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    high speed taxi runs on a long runway. . Any comments on this?>> Yeah! Dont do it. Taxi around until you are familiar with rudder, brakes and throttle. Then, get just fast enough to just raise the tail and give youself some rudder control. Only try it if the wind is dead ahead. If you take off get away from the ground as quickly as possible and then only if you know how to fly. If you can fly, go for it and get some height. Its the ground thats hard, not the air. If you can`t fly, stay away from the plane until someone checks you out. I know you can do it all your own but most of the pilots who have taught themselves to fly, and there are some on this list, do not recommend it. Cheers Pat do not archive


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    Time: 08:06:22 AM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    John, I have 300 hours on my FireStar II and I wouldn't do it, too scary for me. Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II N4GU El Paso, TX but working in Sonora, Mexico _http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/_ (http://home.elp.rr.com/airplane/) (mailto:jhm9812@yahoo.com) > I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed taxi runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of feet and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed runs..take off. Any comments on this?


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    Time: 08:45:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a time ... Vic >> Vic - What kind of grease did you use for the throttle cables? Dennis Kirby New Mexico


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    Time: 09:08:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: DRE-6000
    From: "jimhefner" <hefner_jim@msn.com>
    Dennis, for what it's worth, if you can't find a DRE-6000, I highly recommend the Lightspeed 25XL. Lightspeed had a yearend $50 off special on their reconditioned 25XL headset... ended 12/31. I bought one for $300... a $600 headset new. You can't tell it from brand new, it was tested to new specs, new everything that is replaceable like ear pieces, mike cover, carry bag, etc and it came with a year warranty. It is an amazing headset! It is really comfy and when you press the ANR button, quiet is the word! It is a top of the line quality looking and performing headset in every way. When I called Lightspeed they had to make one up for me so it took a few days before they shipped it, but I was in no big hurry and shipping was only $5!! Lightspeed replaced this model with the 30/3G a few years ago so the 25XL is no longer in production. I asked them about getting support for the 25XL in the future and they said that is no problem for at least 5-6 years and most likely a lot longer. They sold a ton of these to airline pilots so they will be around a long time. They have a nice battery saving feature if you forget to turn off the ANR, it turns itself off. 2 AA batteries last a long time.... probably 6-9 months at the rate I fly. Good luck!! -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87096#87096


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    Time: 09:37:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Little details....
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Hey Guys, Got a few more days off ( Birthday ) so I've been goofin around with the plane of course....Fix'n things and clean'n things up.... I needed to lengthen my Aileron counter balance rods , So I took them off , Re Drilled and tapped a hole....Needed to repaint them , so I figured I'd try somethin new....Here's some pictures Gotta Fly... -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87105#87105 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_counter_balance_rods__checkered_001_831.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_counter_balance_rods__checkered_002_212.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_counter_balance_rods__checkered_004_208.jpg


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    Time: 10:02:21 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Little details....
    http://forums.matronics.com//files/aileron_counter_balance_rods__checkered_004_208.jpg Mike P: I like that idea. Will keep it in mind if I get around to repainting mine. Thanks, john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:49:26 AM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Trottle cables
    At 11:07 AM 1/12/2007, you wrote: ><< My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a >time ... Vic >> > >Vic - What kind of grease did you use for the throttle cables? > >Dennis Kirby You can lubricate your choke and throttle cables without taking them off the carbs. Part # 7435 CABLE LUBER SYSTEM - $17.95 "Prevent cable freezing and extend cable life by lubricating cable with the "Cable Luber" system. Special precision machined lube block allows ease of lubrication between cable and housing without removing the cable. Just attach the Cable Luber to either end of the cable and insert nozzle from aerosol can. Specially designed seals in block force lube down inside cable housing. A must for the serious mechanic. Cable Life Aerosol lubricates and rustproofs moving parts even at temperatures far below -50 degrees. Buy it at a Motorcycle shop


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    Time: 12:43:43 PM PST US
    From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    thats how you wreck a good plane its the worst part of tacking off and landing at high speed near ground in normal opp. you speed up /slow down very quickley with high speed taxis you are at risk to have some thing go wrong at a fast speed for much longer get instruction in a light tail dragger piper taylorcraft kolb drifter ect. it will save you money and plane repairs from stalls ground loops ect airplanes are not toys they can and haved killed and in a kolb you can be 100 feet off the ground before you know you left >From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812@yahoo.com> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar >Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:13:06 -0800 > > >I've had several people e-mail with the suggestion of doing high speed taxi >runs on a long runway. The idea is to get up off the deck a couple of feet >and bring her down. After enough practice of these enough high speed >runs..take off. Any comments on this? > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87016#87016 > > _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001


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    Time: 01:04:51 PM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
    << My cable pull force was high so I greased everything one part at a time ... Vic >> Vic - What kind of grease did you use for the throttle cables? Marine Grease (the blue stuff), all I had on hand anyway. Vic 912 Extra Maine do not archive


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    Time: 02:00:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    I was looking at my "So called" miZer today....I can see now after it has aged a little , that they put a "Sticker" on a navman.... The sticker sez "miZer" , then they charged 300 bucks...200 over the regular price....I'm steamed ! There is no such thing as a miZer... I looked up miZer in the dictionary.....it sez "screw job/ scam" Gotta Fly... Mike in MN PS Jack Hart....Take a look at the sticker on the top side.... -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87158#87158


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    Time: 02:10:26 PM PST US
    From: Mike Pierzina <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb
    Subject: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower Tower: "Delta 351, you have traffic at 10 o'clock, 6 miles!" Delta 351: "Give us another hint! We have digital watches!" ************************************************************************************************** Tower: "TWA 2341, for noise abatement turn right 45 Degrees." TWA 2341: "Center, we are at 35,000 feet. How much noise can we make up here?" Tower: "Sir, have you ever heard the noise a 747 makes when it hits a 727?" **************************************************************************************************** >From an unknown aircraft waiting in a very long takeoff queue: "I'm f...ing bored!" Ground Traffic Control: "Last aircraft transmitting, identify yourself immediately!" Unknown aircraft: "I said I was f...ing bored, not f...ing stupid!" ************************************************************************************************** O'Hare Approach Control to a 747: "United 329 heavy, your traffic is a Fokker, one o'clock, three miles, Eastbound." United 329: "Approach, I've always wanted to say this..I've got the little Fokker in sight." **************************************************************************************************** A student became lost during a solo cross-country flight. While attempting to locate the aircraft on radar, ATC asked, "What was your last known position?" Student: "When I was number one for takeoff." *************************************************************************************************** A DC-10 had come in a little hot and thus had an exceedingly long roll out after touching down. San Jose Tower Noted: "American 751, make a hard right turn at the end of the runway, if you are able. If you are not able, take the Guadeloupe exit off Highway 101, make a right at the lights and return to the airport." **************************************************************************************************** A Pan Am 727 flight, waiting for start clearance in Munich , overheard the following: Lufthansa (in German): " Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English." Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany .. Why must I speak English?" Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war!" **************************************************************************************************** Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on frequency 124.7" Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure. By the way, after we lifted off we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway." Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff behind Eastern 702, contact Departure on frequency 124.7. Did you copy that report from Eastern 702?" BR Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, roger; and yes, we copied Eastern... we've already notified our caterers." ***************************************************************************************************** One day the pilot of a Cherokee 180 was told by the tower to hold short of the active runway while a DC-8 landed. The DC-8 landed, rolled out, turned around, and taxied back past the Cherokee. Some quick-witted comedian in the DC-8 crew got on the radio and said, "What a cute little plane. Did you make it all by yourself?" The Cherokee pilot, not about to let the insult go by, came back with a real zinger: "I made it out of DC-8 parts. Another landing like yours and I'll have enough parts for another one." **************************************************************************************************** The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206. Speedbird 206: " Frankfurt , Speedbird 206 clear of active runway." Ground: "Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven." The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop. Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?" Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now."! Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?" Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, -- And I didn't land." ************************************************************************************************* While taxiing at London 's Gatwick Airport , the crew of a US Air flight departing for Ft. Lauderdale made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 727. An irate female ground controller lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming: "US Air 2771, where the hell are you going? I told you to turn right onto Charlie taxiway! You turned right on Delta! Stop right there. I know it's difficult for you to tell the difference between C and D, but get it right!" Continuing her rage to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting hysterically: "God! Now you've screwed everything up! It'll take forever to sort this out! You stay right there and don't move till I tell you to! You can expect progressive taxi instructions in about half an hour, and I want you to go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you! You got that, US Air 2771?" "Yes, ma'am," the humbled crew responded. Naturally, the ground control communications frequency fell terribly silent after the verbal bashing of US Air 2771. Nobody wanted to chance engaging the irate ground controller in her current state of mind. Tension in every cockpit out around Gatwick was definitely running high. Just then an unknown pilot broke the silence and keyed his microphone, asking: "Wasn't I married to you once?" Do Not Archive Firestar I&II Forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/ My Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/planecrazzzy/Planecrazzzy.html Sometimes you just have to take the leap and build your wings on the way down... --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.


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    Time: 02:16:51 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
    the regular price....I'm steamed ! | Mike: Who did you get it from? One of the "normal" UL/Lt Plane suppliers? john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:24:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: NAVMAN Fuel Flow meter
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Hi John, I got it from Aircraft Spruce & Spec. . Gotta Fly... -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=87167#87167


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    Time: 03:20:05 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not
    Kolb Not Kolb related, but it is too cold to fly.... and continuing this non-Kolb related thread... On a clear and frosty January morn in Albany Ga, I was working tower & ground control combined, and we had a Stearman in the practice area. Albany had a crop dusting school, and the instructors were well known to be a fairly "loose" group of people in terms of protocol... Outside temps were in the 20's, and after about 45 minutes in the practice area, the Stearman comes in and lands and while taxiing back to the ramp the instructor asks the sort of question that every controller wonders how best to answer... "Hey ground, do you want to hear this poem I made up?" "Stearman XXXX, go ahead." "I hope I go to heaven when I die, because then I'll get a new Stearman to fly. But if I go the other way, they'll make me fly it every day!!" Not theologically accurate, but I could see where he was coming from... One afternoon at TRI, I was working ground and Phil was working local, we had a student from Miss Evelyn Johnson's (Google her, 57,620 hours) school in Morristown on downwind for 23, completing his student cross country. (Miss Evelyn sent all her students to TRI for their cross country flights) The C152 touched down, but did not turn off the active, but instead did a touch and go. Since we are a TRSA, we needed to know what was happening next, so we could give approach control the heads-up. (Insert East Tennessee accent to all following transmissions) "Cessna, 32Charlie, say intentions." "Roger." Cessna 32Charlie, say intentions." "Roger." Cessna 32 Charlie, TRI tower, SAY INTENTIONS." "Tower, 32 Charlie, I am payin' tention' whut chu want me t'do?" Don't remember what happened after that. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Pierzina To: List Kolb Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not Kolb Subject: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower <snip>


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    Time: 04:20:39 PM PST US
    From: flymichigan@comcast.net
    Subject: Firestar w/ Trailer For Sale
    Hey guys, I have decided to sell my firestar I. it has the 7 rib wings, so it could become a Firestar II quite easily. beautiful plane, needs nothing. pics on Barnstormers.com. $9500.00 Bryan Dever


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    Time: 06:01:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale
    From: Robert Mason <masonclan@sbcglobal.net>
    I am posting this to the list before going to Barnstormers. I must sell my Mark 3 Xtra and trailer. Check out the photos. http://web.mac.com/ladyluck/iWeb/kolbplane_ForSale/


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    Time: 06:11:40 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not
    Kolb here's another...from Flying Tales of The Grey Baron: Sayah Yo Reequest The following interchange was overheard between Washington National Approach and a Southern Belle (the tail number has been changed to protect the innocent), and with apologies for attempting to reproduce her accent. The time is about 4PM on a weekday; a year before the strike. Approach is very busy with airline traffic. Marginal VFR. Turn off your squelch and listen: =93Washington Nashnul A-proach, this is Novembuh Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-tel about five miles from Washington. Wez now three point five. Ovah." =93Zero Charley Hotel, National Approach. What=92s your request?=94 =93Washington Nashnul A-proach, Novembuh Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-tel is VFR, and we=92d lak to lan=92 at Washington Nashnul. Ovah.=94 =93Zero Hotel, say type aircraft and position.=94 =93Washington Nashnul A-proach this is Oh-oh-oh Cholly Ho-tel. We=92uh a Pipuh Cherokee Six. It looks lak wez about ovah the bridge. Ovah.=94 =93Piper Charley Hotel. Maintain VFR. Squawk zero four fife two and ident.=94 ...and so on, with the Piper cluttering up the frequency with the complete tail number and message address each time. Meanwhile she descended without clearance to 1500 feet. Approach in complete exasperation, tells her her transponder is not working. She turns it from STBY to ON. She is again reporting =93over a bridge,=94 and wanting landing instructions. Approach, about to leave his tree, says: =93Charley Hotel, we have maybe 15 bridges in the Washington area. Due to heavy traffic suggest you try Hyde Field or Washington Virginia airports. Frequency change approved. Good day." regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 07:12:47 PM PST US
    From: "Kolbdriver" <kolbdriver@mlsharp.com>
    Subject: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale
    Perhaps I missed it, How much are you asking???? Where are you located? Mike _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Mason Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Mark 3 Xtra for Sale I am posting this to the list before going to Barnstormers. I must sell my Mark 3 Xtra and trailer. Check out the photos. http://web.mac.com/ladyluck/iWeb/kolbplane_ForSale/


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    Time: 08:32:13 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Actual exchanges between pilots and control tower / Not
    Kolb At 09:10 PM 1/12/2007, you wrote: >here's another...from Flying Tales of The Grey Baron: >Sayah Yo Reequest I don't know, Beauford sent me this flow chart ...just in case I get confused. So I think I got it all figured out now. do not archive


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    Time: 08:54:52 PM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: Trottle cables 912ULS
    I have used teflon grease that I had on hand that I bought from the trailer supply store. It is white and seems to work pretty good.


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    Time: 08:58:10 PM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: Little details....
    Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances? Vic in Sacramento


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    Time: 09:04:53 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Sport pilot ?
    >I got it all figured out now. > >do not archive


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    Time: 09:29:13 PM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Fuel Bubbles caused by Fuel Filter, Which filter do
    you use? hi michael, attended a seminar today at the sport expo in sebring on rotax 2 cyle....they recommend wire mesh filter rather than paper.....also wonder how you are coming on hks installlation..... jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan...florida for winter.


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    Time: 09:38:47 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Little details....
    At 11:57 PM 1/12/2007, you wrote: > >Question: How did you know that you needed airleron counterbalances? >Vic in Sacramento At 85 mph - depending on you're set up. If you've got really balanced controls, maybe 90 mph - lucky you. Well....the first thing that happens is the "stick" starts shaking so hard that you can't hold on to it any more and then there's this God Awful sound....but it's over with pretty quick, cause the aileron controls or the aileron hinges fracture in just a few seconds. So you gotta land with the just the rudder and elevator. Kick right to raise the left wing, kick left to raise the right. etc. Don't need those stinking ailerons anyway - right? Really, they are there to stop all "the above" from happening before it ever gets started. And they work.


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    Time: 11:15:48 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
    Hi Keith, That's one looong damn sentence. Are your caps and punctuation keys all broke? ;^) Ed in JXN Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar > > thats how you wreck a good plane its the worst part of tacking off and > landing at high speed near ground in normal opp. you speed up /slow down > very quickley with high speed taxis you are at risk to have some thing go > wrong at a fast speed for much longer get instruction in a light tail > dragger piper taylorcraft kolb drifter ect. it will save you money and > plane repairs from stalls ground loops ect airplanes are not toys they can > and haved killed and in a kolb you can be 100 feet off the ground before > you know you left >




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