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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (Ed Chmielewski)
2. 03:15 AM - Re: Mark II Xtra update (icrashrc)
3. 05:06 AM - Re: Re: Mark II Xtra update (APilot@webtv.net)
4. 07:15 AM - FireFly for sale (Terry)
5. 07:55 AM - gascolator (boyd)
6. 08:12 AM - Re: Bummer (Paul Petty)
7. 08:21 AM - Re: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar (George Thompson)
8. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (David Lehman)
9. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (John Hauck)
10. 09:58 AM - Re: gascolator (Dana Hague)
11. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (Ralph)
12. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (rap@isp.com)
13. 01:28 PM - Cool Video (Rex Rodebush)
14. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Bummer (jerb)
15. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Bummer (David Lehman)
16. 03:30 PM - Re: Bummer (Paul Petty)
17. 03:48 PM - Set the timers, here we go (Richard Girard)
18. 04:10 PM - Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure (Richard Girard)
19. 06:12 PM - Re: Idle jet size on the 447 (DAquaNut@aol.com)
20. 07:01 PM - Re: FireFly for sale (Steven Green)
21. 07:03 PM - Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure (possums)
22. 07:23 PM - Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure (Larry Bourne)
23. 08:14 PM - Re: Idle jet size on the 447 (Malcolmbru@AOL.com)
24. 09:55 PM - Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure (possums)
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| Subject: | Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar |
Keith,
Please don't go! At least not until you tell me what 'errateeed'
is! It's really buggin' me!
Yore pal,
Ed
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>
> I haved unsubscribed to your old lady chat club thanks for saving me time
> reading your non aviation related posts
>
>
>>From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com>
>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:43:08 -0600
>>
>>
>>youpepole are like a bunch of old women this is about airplanes nothing
>>else there is probley a place on line were your crtiques may be welcome
>>but not by me thanks you doint have to read my posts if they errateeed you
>>
>>
>>>From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
>>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:53:23 -0600
>>>
>>>Keith, No need to get upset. What Ed was pointing out is that your posts
>>>are
>>>virtually unreadable, and as such do not impart the information you wish
>>>to
>>>offer. 'Part of life is the need to communicate easily and accurately.
>>>As I told my ex wife, if words and phrases have multiple and
>>>contradictory
>>>meanings, I choose interpretation 49, "Please go get your pistol and blow
>>>my
>>>F****** brains out." As you can probably see, my communications skills
>>>weren't too good either, then. I really think they're much better now.
>>>
>>>Rick
>>>
>>>On 1/13/07, Keith Callfas <kkcmax@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I did not know this was enlish class thanks and get a life
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Xtra update |
Paul,
I purchased Kit 1 At the Kolb homecoming in 2005. Started work on it around 12/1/05.
Worked until the end of March on it. I picked up Kit 2 At the Homecoming
2006 and just started working on the plane around Christmas.
Thanks for the compliments. My friend Paul and I both tend to follow some of Burt
Rutans wisdom, "your best is ALMOST good enough".
I ordered the Mark III X with the 'Classic' style wing. Kolb will build them either
way for you. If you order the flapped wing they mod the cage for you. The
flaps and linkage are the same as the Classic.
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Scott
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Xtra update |
What is the difference between the Mark III Extra wing and the Classic
wing?
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| Subject: | FireFly for sale |
Gentlemen,
It is my unhappy task of helping my friend's son sell his fathers
Firefly. Dick Bezzard has left us before Christmas after a poor year of
health. It is a 1996 model and was damaged on a rude landing at my
place. I helped him rebuild the fuselage and he had to replace one rib
on a wing. While he was at it, he cut the ailerons down from the barn
door size to the size now used. It would have been completed by now if
not for his health.
The fuselage is powdered coated as is the rest of the hardware and
boom. The covering is done on the wings, fuselage and ailerons with the
tapeing done on the fuselage. Tapeing still needs to be completed on
the wings and ailerons. The tail section was not damaged at all and is
still attached to the boom. All of the dope and paint for it has been
purchased including Polyspray UV protection. Actually more than needed.
The 447 has 41.3 hr.'s on it and is included with a three blade IVO
prop. Instruments include: Air speed, Altimeter, VSI, Card compass,
dual CHT, combined rpm/egt, bank indicator and Hobb's meter. It has
heel brakes on Azusa 6" wheels. Spare 6" steel rims with balloon tires
on them. An upholstered seat cushion. Dual wing tip Kuntzleman
strobes. 4 gal. of AV-2 mixing oil. New nose fairing and sheet metal
for the floor pan. Antenna mounted on left wing strut attachment with
groundplane built into wing above. Complete set of plans with building
manual and Rotax manuals.
Only thing missing that I can determine is the Lexan for the wind
screen. Also, the gear legs are bent and need to be straighten or new
ones purchased.
Dick was a machinist by trade and very particular with his
possession's. I have advised his son to place a price tag on the whole
thing at $6,000. A real bargain for someone. It is hangered at
Smoketown airport east of Lancaster, PA. where it has been since it's
inception. If interested, I can show it to you and then provide you a
contact number for his son.
You might wonder why I'm not interested in finishing it myself. It's
because I already have a FireFly that I built after seeing Dick's back
in 98. Can't house or fly two!!!
Terry - FireFly #95
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Years ago I saw a gas filter in autozone that had 2 inlets and 1 outlet.....
because gas is lighter than water,,, if it was positioned so the active
inlet was above the inactive inlet, ( plumbed into a drain valve) and the
outlet above them all,,, the gas/water mix would enter in the upper inlet,
the gas would go to the outlet on top and the water would go to the bottom
inlet/outlet/drain... you could have a gas collator filter all in 1. if it
were installed say 15 to 20 deg from vertical I think the installation would
be good. The filter as I remember was semi transparent to fully
transparent. Installed in this manner I think the filter would have to be
completely full of water for water to enter the outlet.
Boyd
At 11:28 PM 1/15/2007, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>I have a gascolator that has a port on the bottom for attaching a drain
>valve. It's all metal, but the price might be good - make me an offer....
Thanks, but I do want one I can see through...
-Dana
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I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS?
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
painting and reassembly
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| Subject: | Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar |
Yes Keith Don't go. It is more fun reading your posts than doing a
crossword puzzle and just as challenging.
Az Bald Eagle
From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:34 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> Keith,
>
> Please don't go! At least not until you tell me what 'errateeed'
> is! It's really buggin' me!
>
> Yore pal,
>
> Ed
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>
>
>>
>> I haved unsubscribed to your old lady chat club thanks for saving me time
>> reading your non aviation related posts
>>
>>
>>>From: "Keith Callfas" <kkcmax@msn.com>
>>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:43:08 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>>youpepole are like a bunch of old women this is about airplanes nothing
>>>else there is probley a place on line were your crtiques may be welcome
>>>but not by me thanks you doint have to read my posts if they errateeed
>>>you
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
>>>>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Transition aircraft -> to Kolb Firestar
>>>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:53:23 -0600
>>>>
>>>>Keith, No need to get upset. What Ed was pointing out is that your posts
>>>>are
>>>>virtually unreadable, and as such do not impart the information you wish
>>>>to
>>>>offer. 'Part of life is the need to communicate easily and accurately.
>>>>As I told my ex wife, if words and phrases have multiple and
>>>>contradictory
>>>>meanings, I choose interpretation 49, "Please go get your pistol and
>>>>blow my
>>>>F****** brains out." As you can probably see, my communications skills
>>>>weren't too good either, then. I really think they're much better now.
>>>>
>>>>Rick
>>>>
>>>>On 1/13/07, Keith Callfas <kkcmax@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I did not know this was enlish class thanks and get a life
>
>
> --
> 4:36 PM
>
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Affirmative, it's BS
DVD
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On 1/17/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS?
>
> --------
> Paul Petty
> Kolbra #12
> Ms Dixie
> painting and reassembly
>
>
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| Paul Petty
Paul:
If you have not done so already, contact the nearest FSDO and ask
them.
For your location the nearest would be Jackson, MS:
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/mis/
Hope this helps clarify your question.
john h
mkIII
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At 10:53 AM 1/17/2007, boyd wrote:
>
>Years ago I saw a gas filter in autozone that had 2 inlets and 1 outlet.....
>because gas is lighter than water,,, if it was positioned so the active
>inlet was above the inactive inlet, ( plumbed into a drain valve) and the
>outlet above them all,,, the gas/water mix would enter in the upper inlet...
My old Jeep had a filter like that. It was actually one inlet and two
outlets; the larger (lower) outlet went to the carburetor, and the upper
(smaller) outlet returned excess fuel back to the fuel tank. The purpose
was to prevent vapor lock by keeping (cool) fuel circulating through the
pump, and also to prevent excess fuel pressure from flooding the
carburetor. The top return outlet also insured that any air or vapor in
the filter got routed back to the tank instead of to the engine.
-Dana
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Paul they do free ones, but it may take forever before they come out
to inspect it. A DAR will do it in a reasonable amount of time, but
then you pay for it.
Ralph
-- "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS?
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
painting and reassembly
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> The way I under stand it is they don't want to and try to discorage
them, that is why such a long wait. If they make it too long a wait
every one will go with a DAR. I'm in a bind right now I maxed out the
credit card trying to finish this plane. Finished the plane but don't
have the money to afford the DAR. I'm sure I will be able to dig up $500
dollars by April. Jan is just a rough month.
Affirmative, it's BS
>
> DVD
>
> do not archive
>
>
> On 1/17/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS?
>>
>> --------
>> Paul Petty
>> Kolbra #12
>> Ms Dixie
>> painting and reassembly
>>
>>
>>
>
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Check out The New Kolb website for a neat video. It gives a good pilot's view
of take off and landing a Mark III. Seems to me to be very similar to a J-3 cub.
Rex Rodebush
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I have to agree with John H, give them a call, no harm done in
asking. What category do you intend to license it, Experimental or
Light Sport. Seems like I recall reading that the FAA would not do
light sport inspection that you had to use the service of a DAR, but
the FAA inspections would still be available for experimental.
jerb
At 10:40 AM 1/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> | I was told the FAA no longer does free inspections. Is this BS?
>|
>| --------
>| Paul Petty
>
>
>Paul:
>
>If you have not done so already, contact the nearest FSDO and ask
>them.
>
>For your location the nearest would be Jackson, MS:
>
>http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/mis/
>
>Hope this helps clarify your question.
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
>
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Some, if not all, FAA offices certificate Light Sport Experimental...
DVD
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On 1/17/07, jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> I have to agree with John H, give them a call, no harm done in
> asking. What category do you intend to license it, Experimental or
> Light Sport. Seems like I recall reading that the FAA would not do
> light sport inspection that you had to use the service of a DAR, but
> the FAA inspections would still be available for experimental.
> jerb
>
>
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Thanks jerb John all shew! another 500 might bring about AIDS!
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
painting and reassembly
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| Subject: | Set the timers, here we go |
I finally got the paperwork for all five aircraft together and mailed to the
FAA today. I have reserved N numbers for each and a copy of the reservation
letter is enclosed, the 8050-88A forms were all properly notarized and
checked to reflect that any ownership paperwork is lost and cannot be
replaced, and the 8050-1 was filled out to show that I am the builder and
the make is a Kolb, not vice versa. I even used postal money orders for the
$5 fee so there would be no waiting on checks to clear or other impediments
to getting them all registered.
Here's hoping it all goes quickly, I really want to get them all back in the
air.
Rick
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure |
Like several of you, I rejected the idea of welding some of the structure of
the Kolb. I thought about the heat treat and deformation issues and kicked
my brain into cruise control on reflex.
Somewhat later, after banging my head, again, on the fuselage weldment of
the Cumulus that hangs from the ceiling of the garage, it occured to me that
the empennage components could be welded 4130 just as well as riveted
aluminum. The cumulus tail feathers are welded, not a pop rivet in sight.
Even the hinges are welded to the structures.
Of course there's the issue of weight. On reflex, again, it seems like the
steel structure might be a close second, but surely could not be as light as
aluminum. But, I've been wrong before.
So, in the spirit of "one good test beats a thousand well reasoned
opinions", is there anyone out there who has the tailfeathers for his Kolb
done, but not covered? I'm not sure model would make that much difference,
but to be as close as possible, a Fire Star or a FS 2 are very similar in
area of the tail feathers of the Cumulus. If you're near central Kansas, I
can bring scales to do the weighing.
Rick
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Idle jet size on the 447 |
List,
I am having trouble with my firefly loading up at idle for more than about
10 seconds. Just wondering if going down on the idle jet size would cure the
problem. I think this is a common problem on the 447 , and wondered if any
one has cured it. There have been a few times I would go to " clear" it and
it would bog to the point of dying almost! Anyone had this problem and
cured it? Not much in the archieves.
Ed Diebel Firefly 062 ( In Houston) (Where it has been
colder than normal)
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly for sale |
Terry,
Is this the Gentleman that toured with us to your place in September?
Steven Green
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| Subject: | Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure |
>
>So, in the spirit of "one good test beats a thousand well reasoned
>opinions", is there anyone out there who has the tailfeathers for
>his Kolb done, but not covered? I'm not sure model would make that
>much difference, but to be as close as possible, a Fire Star or a FS
>2 are very similar in area of the tail feathers of the Cumulus. If
>you're near central Kansas, I can bring scales to do the weighing.
>
>Rick
Just some different "mods" we've done on the tail -
down south in Possum country.
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| Subject: | Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure |
Good ideas, and perty nice workmanship, Possum. How has it all worked out
in practise ?? Do not Archive.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "possums" <possums@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure
>
>>
>>So, in the spirit of "one good test beats a thousand well reasoned
>>opinions", is there anyone out there who has the tailfeathers for
>>his Kolb done, but not covered? I'm not sure model would make that
>>much difference, but to be as close as possible, a Fire Star or a FS
>>2 are very similar in area of the tail feathers of the Cumulus. If
>>you're near central Kansas, I can bring scales to do the weighing.
>>
>>Rick
>
> Just some different "mods" we've done on the tail -
> down south in Possum country.
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| Subject: | Re: Idle jet size on the 447 |
carb icing is a possibility read the eht and cht if they seam low for the
condition you may have carb ice. this would give you a rich condition and bog
easily IT isn't the 447 but the one card supplying so much fuel and air
that makes it easier to ice up then the 503 with two carbes
I flew in ice conditions in my firestar several times even formed ice on
the wings and tail bogged the motor down so lo I landed with throttle full
forward and stalled when I let off the gas I weighed the plane back at the hanger
it was 592 LB Malcolm Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure |
At 11:22 PM 1/17/2007, you wrote:
>
>Good ideas, and perty nice workmanship, Possum. How has it all
>worked out in practise ?? Do not Archive.
>
>Larry Bourne
OK so far - but you never know?
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