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1. 12:11 AM - Re: Mark II Xtra update (icrashrc)
2. 01:18 AM - Re: Re: Mark II Xtra update (APilot@webtv.net)
3. 03:08 AM - slingshot (tc1917)
4. 04:17 AM - Re: slingshot (Larry Bourne)
5. 04:34 AM - Re: Re: Mark II Xtra update (David Key)
6. 05:57 AM - Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure (Vic Peters)
7. 06:30 AM - Re: Idle jet size on the 447 (Beauford T)
8. 06:50 AM - BRS Repack (John Hauck)
9. 07:37 AM - Re: slingshot (n27sb@aol.com)
10. 07:45 AM - Re: BRS Repack (n27sb@aol.com)
11. 07:58 AM - Re: slingshot (Jack B. Hart)
12. 08:32 AM - Re: BRS Repack (Beauford T)
13. 09:24 AM - Re: BRS Repack (John Hauck)
14. 10:33 AM - Re: FireFly for sale (Terry)
15. 11:03 AM - Re: Bummer (Paul Petty)
16. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (Wayne T. McCullough)
17. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (David Lehman)
18. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (John Hauck)
19. 11:58 AM - Re: Re: Bummer (John Hauck)
20. 12:21 PM - Mk III to Xtra Conversion (Mike Welch)
21. 12:52 PM - Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion (John Hauck)
22. 02:52 PM - Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion (Richard Pike)
23. 03:01 PM - Re: slingshot vs cobra (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
24. 03:05 PM - Airspeed Indicator (JRatcli256@aol.com)
25. 03:26 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator (John Hauck)
26. 03:45 PM - Re: slingshot vs cobra (Denny Rowe)
27. 03:50 PM - Re: slingshot vs cobra (Denny Rowe)
28. 04:38 PM - Re: slingshot vs cobra (planecrazzzy)
29. 04:47 PM - buying the parts (Mike Welch)
30. 04:56 PM - Re: Idle jet size on the 447 (DAquaNut@aol.com)
31. 05:03 PM - Re: Naveman fuel gauge (Eugene Zimmerman)
32. 05:16 PM - ()
33. 06:20 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator (DAquaNut@aol.com)
34. 06:35 PM - My path to buying a Kolb (David Kulp)
35. 06:51 PM - Re: My path to buying a Kolb (Larry Bourne)
36. 06:51 PM - Re: My path to buying a Kolb (Richard Pike)
37. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: slingshot vs cobra (Bob Noyer)
38. 07:02 PM - Re: Naveman fuel gauge (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
39. 07:17 PM - Re: Naveman fuel gauge (Eugene Zimmerman)
40. 07:23 PM - Re: buying the parts (Denny Rowe)
41. 07:57 PM - Re: Naveman fuel gauge (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
42. 08:37 PM - Re: Idle jet size on the 447 (olendorf)
43. 08:58 PM - Re: buying the parts (APilot@webtv.net)
44. 09:34 PM - Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion (APilot@webtv.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Xtra update |
The Xtra wing uses flaperons.
The Classic wing uses seperate flaps and ailerons.
APilot(at)webtv.net wrote:
> What is the difference between the Mark III Extra wing and the Classic
> wing?
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Xtra update |
Thanks for the info.
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Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a
firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it
interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing
more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to
thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama.
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Years ago, Ron Christensen built shortened droop tips for his Mk III Classic
(he called it the Mk III 1/2) and they didn't work out too well. I forget
the details now, but he experimented with several different tips, and
finally wound up back with the factory plans wingtips. Maybe an archive
search would work, or maybe someone on the List has a better memory for 8 or
9 years ago. Lar.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
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From: "tc1917" <tc1917@hughes.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: slingshot
>
> Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a
> firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it
> interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the
> landing more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone
> has HAD to thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama.
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Xtra update |
Some xtra' s have flaps. Most of the xtra lights have flaperons and the xtra
heavies have flaps.
>From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark II Xtra update
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:10:28 -0800
>
>
>The Xtra wing uses flaperons.
>The Classic wing uses seperate flaps and ailerons.
>
>
>APilot(at)webtv.net wrote:
> > What is the difference between the Mark III Extra wing and the Classic
> > wing?
>
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>Scott
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88532#88532
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| Subject: | Re: Second thoughts on welding Kolb structure |
I like the toe in you've added to the rudder.
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: Idle jet size on the 447 |
Ed...
I doubt you would have to change the idle jet size from the original...
The symptom you describe sounds like the way mine behaves when it has
crud in the idle jet... Have you checked to see if it is clean...? It
only takes a tiny amount of fuzz in that jet to make it do exactly what
you are describing... Mine is stable at idle as long as the idle jet is
clean.
Worth what ye paid fer it...
Beauford
FF# 076
Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking
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From: DAquaNut@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Idle jet size on the 447
List,
I am having trouble with my firefly loading up at idle for more than
about 10 seconds. Just wondering if going down on the idle jet size
would cure the problem. I think this is a common problem on the 447 ,
and wondered if any one has cured it. There have been a few times I
would go to " clear" it and it would bog to the point of dying almost!
Anyone had this problem and cured it? Not much in the archieves.
Ed Diebel Firefly 062 ( In Houston) (Where it has
been colder than normal)
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Beauford
FF# 076
Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking
Beauford:
If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare
and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please.
I spent a couple telephone calls to them yesterday and still have no
answers. Will try again today to get set up to get mine returned and
updated. I think I understand the rocket is good for 12 years and
does not need to be returned for inspection. My parachute is a 1050
soft pack. Repack requirement every six years if parachute is
installed inside the aircraft out of the weather. I have 7 years on
the initial pack. BRS told me to go ahead and fly it until last fall,
then send it in.
Cold and wet at hauck's holler, alabama.
john h
mkIII
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Tnk is currently working on some tips for the MKIIIX. It should not be a secret
because they had them on display at the Homecoming.
steve B
Firefly on Floats
-----Original Message-----
From: tc1917@hughes.net
Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 6:07 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: slingshot
Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a firefly
or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it interfer with
the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing more? would it
twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to thought about it, right?
Ted Cowan, Alabama.
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John, I did one last year. You can send your pack as is or you can open it to take
a look, be carefull not to let it inflate out in the open, it takes very little
breeze to yank a Hauck off the ground. DO NOT SEND THE ROCKET. It requires
a special training class and liscense to ship one. If yours is out of date
buy a new one. Bring your old one to TNK this year and we will test it.
steve
-----Original Message-----
From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
Sent: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 9:49 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: BRS Repack
Beauford
FF# 076
Grounded... BRS shipped off for repacking
Beauford:
If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare
and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please.
I spent a couple telephone calls to them yesterday and still have no
answers. Will try again today to get set up to get mine returned and
updated. I think I understand the rocket is good for 12 years and
does not need to be returned for inspection. My parachute is a 1050
soft pack. Repack requirement every six years if parachute is
installed inside the aircraft out of the weather. I have 7 years on
the initial pack. BRS told me to go ahead and fly it until last fall,
then send it in.
Cold and wet at hauck's holler, alabama.
john h
mkIII
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At 05:07 AM 1/18/07 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Has anyone ever put droop tips on a kolb? How about on a short wing as a
>firefly or slingshot? seems it would really help the landing. would it
>interfer with the faster flying of a slingshot or would it help the landing
>more? would it twist the wing under pressure? Come on, someone has HAD to
>thought about it, right? Ted Cowan, Alabama.
>
Ted,
For a Firefly, I believe if you add VG's, go to smaller chord ailerons,
shorten the T bar moment arm, there is no reason to change the tips for
improved landing characteristics. With the changes I have listed, the
FireFly is very light and positive on the controls.
If I was going to rebuild the wings, I would flare out the wing tip at a 45
degree angle from the leading edge to the rear and keep the bottom flat.
Shorten the leading edge and extend the trailing edge to keep the wing area
the same as before. This would help reduce wing tip vortices and provide a
little better cruise with out additional weight.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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John:
First of all, this is a good time to do it, since they are offering a 15%
winter discount until 01 March.
Here is about all I know about it based on dealing with them this past week:
-- BRS requires you to obtain a Return Materials Authorization (RMA) number
from them prior to shipping anything back to them. If you don't have a
number, they won't accept it.
-- They require payment in full before they will work on your chute.
-- My chute is a BRS-5 cannister - I called and asked whether they wanted
just the bare cannister, or whether they preferred getting it with the two
mounting bands and the sub-mounting base on it... They said it did not
matter, either way was OK. I shipped mine "clean." FED-EX from Florida was
under $20, including a fee for $1K insurance.
-- Rocket is 12 year replacement item but the BRS-5 cannister model chute,
itself, is rated by BRS at a 25 year service life, with 6 year repack cycle.
-- The current turnaround time they quote is "a couple of weeks." We shall
see.
-- With the discount, my bill was $658... prices vary for other models and I
do not have that data, although George Alexander mentioned to me that if one
needed a new rocket for the BRS-5 it would be approximately $400 more.
(George can likely provide some precise info on the rocket price, since he
discussed it with BRS this week).
-- I found that coaxing a live BRS human to answer the service desk
telephone number listed on their website for RMA numbers is a challenging
undertaking... Evidently the gents who man that desk are also doing the
repacking work and they stay rather busy at that task most of the time. I
surrendered after half a dozen attempts at various times of day and finally
just called their front office admin number, which is also listed on the
website. A very professional and pleasant young lady named Brenda got me
the pricing info, answers to my shipping questions and the RMA number.
Hope this helps...
Beauford, FF#076
Brandon, FL
>
> > Beauford:
>
> If you have time, give us a run down on what was required to prepare
> and ship your parachute back to BRS for repack, please.
>
>
>
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A very professional and pleasant young lady named Brenda got me
| the pricing info, answers to my shipping questions and the RMA
number.
|
| Hope this helps...
|
| Beauford, FF#076
|
Hi Beauford:
Thanks for the info.
I will call Brenda and get this thing on the road.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly for sale |
Steven Green wrote:
> Terry,
>
> Is this the Gentleman that toured with us to your place in September?
>
> Steven Green
> do not archive
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>
Steve,
Yes it is.
Terry
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Gang,
Just got off the phone with the FSDO in Jackson. Guy named Ed Adcock told me the
FAA no longer does AW inspections that now is done by DAR's. So it wasnt BS
looks like. He also said this was nation wide and due to money crunches his division
of the FAA handeled surveillance only what ever that means. [Crying or
Very sad] Oh well thank goodness for credit!
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
painting and reassembly
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Went and talked with my local FAA representative who is out of the Atlanta
area..........
Here in Savannah Georgia......
That is the same information that I am getting...............
Wayne McCullough
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Paul...
Lots of FSDOs are still performing Experimental certifications, sounds like
Jackson doesn't... Bring it to "Lovely" Fresno and the FSDO will do the
certification...
DVD
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On 1/18/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote:
>
>
> Gang,
> Just got off the phone with the FSDO in Jackson. Guy named Ed Adcock told
> me the FAA no longer does AW inspections that now is done by DAR's. So it
> wasnt BS looks like. He also said this was nation wide and due to money
> crunches his division of the FAA handeled surveillance only what ever that
> means. [Crying or Very sad] Oh well thank goodness for credit!
>
> --------
> Paul Petty
> Kolbra #12
> Ms Dixie
> painting and reassembly
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=88651#88651
>
>
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FAA no longer does AW inspections that now is done by DAR's.
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| Paul Petty
Hi Paul:
Was not the answer you were looking for, but at least you have a valid
answer and don't have to worry about hearsay.
15 years ago I paid a gentleman out of Birmingham, Alabama, to do my
airworthiness inspection. He did a good job, asked for a fair price.
I have no idea what he charges now, but he may be agreeable to swing
by your place, when the time comes, and do your inspection. His name
is John Burgin. Someone on the Kolb List may have his number handy.
If not, we can find it shortly.
john h
mkIII
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| Paul Petty
Paul:
Gents name is John E. Burgin, Birmingham, Alabama, telephone:
205-836-8390.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Mk III to Xtra Conversion |
Hi Everyone,
I'm new to the list, just signed up yesterday. Not new to Kolb, tho. I
bought a Mk III back in 1999, and I recognize a few familiar names.
I have not finished building my Mk III Classic, yet I am very close. I
got held up from finishing the Mk III and I did not want to cover it until I
could store it inside a hanger. Essentially, about all that's left is the
fabric and paint. But!! I really, really think I want to back the
process up a little, and make a few aerodynamic changes...(like Barnaby
Wainfan suggested) to create what should have been all along...a Mk III
Xtra.
That sucker looks like it's going fast, sitting still. While I have
absolutely no doubt whatsoever about my own talents to making a worthwhile
conversion, I am curious if there are those among you who have considered or
even done this very thing.
I can do the fuselage modifications (mostly just widening the front and a
newer better windshield
design). Of course, I'll have to make a new fiberglass nose, etc. Any
thoughts on the matter?? Thanks, Mike Welch in
Utah (southwest corner...two hour drive from Las Vegas)
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion |
Mike Welch
Hi Mike:
Welcome to the Kolb List.
While I am a happy camper with my old mkIII, there are those on the
List that will welcome discussions on how to make it look faster, etc.
Have never had a chance to fly with a mkIIIx long enough to do any
comparisons between my mkIIIc and the xtra. Looking forward to doing
that comparison, one of these days.
john h
mkIII
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion |
I would be interested in the implementing mods that involve the fuselage
from the doors back. I understand that the Xtra has a different side profile
that reduces drag, and while it would be good to have the wider nose, it
would also probably help to have the aerodynamic mods from the doors to the
rear of the fuselage that improve drag. Which would be vastly easier to
install.
Plus, I like the front the way it is <grin>
In your case, why not ask TNK to sell you just the front end? Probably
wouldn't break the bank, and save you reinventing the wheel...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk III to Xtra Conversion
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I'm new to the list, just signed up yesterday. Not new to Kolb, tho. I
> bought a Mk III back in 1999, and I recognize a few familiar names.
> I have not finished building my Mk III Classic, yet I am very close. I
> got held up from finishing the Mk III and I did not want to cover it until
> I could store it inside a hanger. Essentially, about all that's left is
> the fabric and paint. But!! I really, really think I want to back the
> process up a little, and make a few aerodynamic changes...(like Barnaby
> Wainfan suggested) to create what should have been all along...a Mk III
> Xtra.
> That sucker looks like it's going fast, sitting still. While I have
> absolutely no doubt whatsoever about my own talents to making a worthwhile
> conversion, I am curious if there are those among you who have considered
> or even done this very thing.
> I can do the fuselage modifications (mostly just widening the front and a
> newer better windshield
> design). Of course, I'll have to make a new fiberglass nose, etc.
> Any thoughts on the matter?? Thanks, Mike Welch
> in Utah (southwest corner...two hour drive from Las Vegas)
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: slingshot vs cobra |
what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal
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| Subject: | Airspeed Indicator |
Its about time to purchase an airspeed indicator for my mark3x. There seems
to be numerous brands on the market, from inexpensive on up. Would like to get
input on reliability of the various units being used. Think how they stand up
under vibration, would be a reasonable concern. Would like to get some list
recomendations.
Also was wondering about connecting the Navman fuel flow transducer to the
Grand Rapids EIS rather then using the gage unit supplied for the Navman. Can it
be done?
Many Thanks
John Ratcliffe
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicator |
| Its about time to purchase an airspeed indicator for my mark3x.
| John Ratcliffe
|
John R:
I have used Winter ASI's for years. In 2600 hours I have replaced
mine once in my mkIII. They were designed for soaring, are very
accurate and reliable.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: slingshot vs cobra |
Kolbra is stretched out and has a lot more room in the back seat, also
the Kolbra has a about six more feet of wing.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: slingshot vs cobra
what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal
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| Subject: | Re: slingshot vs cobra |
I forgot to mention that the Kolbra has dual controls and the Slingshot
does not.
The Slingshot is the Corvette of the Kolb designs and the Kolbra is the
SuperCub.
Denny Rowe
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From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: slingshot vs cobra
what is the difference between the slongshot and the cobra? mal
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| Subject: | Re: slingshot vs cobra |
Here's a Slingshot...
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN
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| Subject: | buying the parts |
Hi Richard,
I already called and talked to TNK about this idea and the front nose cone
is about $350. The problem is there is a lot more to it than just the
fiberglass. If I were able to build an EXACT match to an Xtra, then buying
a nose piece might save a little time, but since I will have to do my own
widening on a MkIII fuselage, their genuine nosecone won't really fit what I
come up with. I believe I can best build my own version of an Xtra
nosecone, after I've finished the frame mods, and it will be "made to fit".
Akso, TNK guy said that to actually change a MkIII into a real Xtra would
mean 1) the fuselage 2) the nosecone, and some misc. other things. All
told...maybe $3500 to $4000, to make a true Xtra.
Not worth it to me to spend that kind of bucks. I still feel I can modify
my MkIII for just the cost of some parts, namely chrome-moly tubing ($300),
fiberglass and resin ($150) and some new lexan. I need new lexan anyway,
since my old windshield cracked up being in the sun too much.
Referring to the side/back of the fuselage, I am not familiar with any
noticible changes (yet). I do know that small flat area right in front of
the prop is a source of "poor airflow" and it is imperitive to build a
aluminum "v" to fare that area to improve airflow to the prop.
In the final outcome I am not really trying to create a 100+ mph rocket.
I know a MkIII has its limitations, but I just want to "improve" it a
little, and make it cruise a couple of mph's quicker.
Besides....all my BIG bucks are being poured into my GlaStar I am also
building (about $30k+ in just the panel. Mostly color glass displays. Have
to butcher their molded instument panel to get it to all fit.) Thank God
for airplanes, or I'd have plenty of money to blow on hobbies!!! LOL
Mike in Utah
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| Subject: | Re: Idle jet size on the 447 |
In a message dated 1/18/2007 8:31:41 A.M. Central Standard Time,
beauford@tampabay.rr.com writes:
Have you checked to see if it is clean...? It only takes a tiny amount of
fuzz in that jet to make it do exactly what you are describing... Mine is
stable at idle as long as the idle jet is clean.
Beauford,
I have had the problem since new. If I let it idle for more than
about 5 seconds it seems to load up. I thought it was getting too much gas, but
if I knew for certain,I would not be needing help. I will check to make sure
everything is clean. I need to replace all my fuel lines anyway! If the
weather ever warms back up!!
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: Naveman fuel gauge |
I'd like to know that also. the Navman fuel gauge is no longer
available except in the more expensive models.
I suppose the best answer will need to come from Grand Rapids EIS .
On Jan 18, 2007, at 6:04 PM, JRatcli256@aol.com wrote:
> Also was wondering about connecting the Navman fuel flow transducer
> to the Grand Rapids EIS rather then using the gage unit supplied
> for the Navman. Can it be done?
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed Indicator |
In a message dated 1/18/2007 5:27:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
I have used Winter ASI's for years. In 2600 hours I have replaced
mine once in my mkIII. They were designed for soaring, are very
accurate and reliable.
john h
mkIII
John R,
I have to agree with John H. . I had a UMA ASI. It read about 20 mph
off. After hearing my post about having trouble with my UMA he suggested I
get a Winter ASI . I got one and it seems very accurate. They aren't cheap ,
but it would have been cheaper to get a Winter to start with. Hope this
helps.
Ed Diebel (firefly # 062)
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| Subject: | My path to buying a Kolb |
Hello Kolbers,
Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field
landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a
contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken
Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to
earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative
on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect
between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done.
I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm setting
up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative there. If
you'd like to check it out click on the link below.
http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/
I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who are
struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe
you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the
remainder.
Regards,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
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| Subject: | Re: My path to buying a Kolb |
I'd like to see that article, Dave. Thanks.
Larry Bourne
Santa Fe, NM
www.gogittum.com
----- Original Message -----
From: David Kulp
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: My path to buying a Kolb
Hello Kolbers,
Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field
landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a
contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken
Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to
earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative
on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect
between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done.
I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm
setting up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative
there. If you'd like to check it out click on the link below.
http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/
I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who
are struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe
you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the
remainder.
Regards,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
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| Subject: | Re: My path to buying a Kolb |
Wow. Glad to still have you around.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: David Kulp
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: My path to buying a Kolb
Hello Kolbers,
Back in the beginning of the year there was a thread about off-field
landings. I had an experience I believe would be qualified as a
contribution to that thread. While flying an under-constructed Chicken
Hawk ultralight, the wings folded at 1200' AGL and I survived a fall to
earth with no parachute. I tried to post some pictures and a narrative
on the photo share, but apparently there's some kind of disconnect
between me and the photo share because I was unable to get it done.
I'm sure many of you would be fascinated to read about it so I'm
setting up a personal website and posting the pictures and narrative
there. If you'd like to check it out click on the link below.
http://journal.rcn.net/DaveKulp/gallery/64/?fwdUrl=/DaveKulp/
I'd like to wish you all a great 2007. To those in the midwest who
are struggling with the ice and snow, my thoughts are with you. Maybe
you're getting your licks early in the year and will coast for the
remainder.
Regards,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
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| Subject: | Re: slingshot vs cobra |
Seeing that kid in the homegrown slingshot reminded me of our little
gang, about 1936 or so. We had built a 12' box kite, and decided to
have the smallest kid take a ride! About 100' below the bridle we
dropped a 10' pc of line with a board and a knothole for the line.
Got the kid maybe 20-25' up and all of a sudden his mother appears,
after hearing the "cry baby." Reeled him, and when his dad came home
from WPA, he took a hatchet to the kite.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Naveman fuel gauge |
The navman is still avaliable I just recieved a new one for another plane
113.00
Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Naveman fuel gauge |
Where did you get it. I tried several places and got a "no longer
available" from each one.
On Jan 18, 2007, at 10:01 PM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> The navman is still avaliable I just recieved a new one for
> another plane 113.00
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> Ellery in Maine
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| Subject: | Re: buying the parts |
Mike,
I know you have your heart set on wringing that last three miles per hour
out of your Mk-3, but let me give you my thoughts.
You have a well proven airframe kit that will have plenty of value if you
ever decide to sell. You are very close to completion if you do not get
side tracked into major mods that may upset weight and balance as well as
directional stability, remember that the extra needs larger tail surfaces to
offset the longer forward fuselage.
You are also building a Glastar which has much greater range and speed than
any Kolb so the need for a faster Mk-3 seems almost silly.
My advise is to finish both planes per plans and enjoy the wonderful world
of slow flight the Mk-3 gives, as well as the capabilities of the Glasstar.
Worth what you paid for it.
Denny Rowe, Mk-3, PA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: buying the parts
>
> Hi Richard,
> I already called and talked to TNK about this idea and the front nose
> cone is about $350. The problem is there is a lot more to it than just
> the fiberglass. If I were able to build an EXACT match to an Xtra, then
> buying a nose piece might save a little time, but since I will have to do
> my own widening on a MkIII fuselage, their genuine nosecone won't really
> fit what I come up with. I believe I can best build my own version of an
> Xtra nosecone, after I've finished the frame mods, and it will be "made to
> fit".
>
> Akso, TNK guy said that to actually change a MkIII into a real Xtra
> would mean 1) the fuselage 2) the nosecone, and some misc. other things.
> All told...maybe $3500 to $4000, to make a true Xtra.
> Not worth it to me to spend that kind of bucks. I still feel I can modify
> my MkIII for just the cost of some parts, namely chrome-moly tubing
> ($300), fiberglass and resin ($150) and some new lexan. I need new lexan
> anyway, since my old windshield cracked up being in the sun too much.
>
> Referring to the side/back of the fuselage, I am not familiar with any
> noticible changes (yet). I do know that small flat area right in front
> of the prop is a source of "poor airflow" and it is imperitive to build a
> aluminum "v" to fare that area to improve airflow to the prop.
>
> In the final outcome I am not really trying to create a 100+ mph rocket.
> I know a MkIII has its limitations, but I just want to "improve" it a
> little, and make it cruise a couple of mph's quicker.
> Besides....all my BIG bucks are being poured into my GlaStar I am also
> building (about $30k+ in just the panel. Mostly color glass displays.
> Have to butcher their molded instument panel to get it to all fit.)
> Thank God for airplanes, or I'd have plenty of money to blow on hobbies!!!
> LOL
> Mike in Utah
>
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| Subject: | Re: Naveman fuel gauge |
http://www.jandhproducts.com/product.asp?pf_id=14956 this is where I got
mine from I see the price went up a couple dollars but its still cheaper then
the Fuel MIZER
Good luck
Ellery
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| Subject: | Re: Idle jet size on the 447 |
"Idle jet on 447"
When I first installed my 447 it ran rich at idle. So rich I couldn't even use
the choke at all without the engine stopping. I changed from a 45 idle jet to
a 40. It is much better. Been that way now for 180 hours.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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| Subject: | Re: buying the parts |
My thoughts are parallel to these. 70 mph is my top cruise even though
I have seen 100 mph going downhill. Have flown it with and without
winter doors, summer doors and windshield. It is just too fast for open
air flying enjoyment. I can slow it down to 45 mph and have fair
control. All of my mods that I will install in a few weeks are to slow
it down. With my new wing tips extensions, vortex generators and
various gap seals here and there, I hope to obtain an airplane that will
be safe to fly at low level at 35 mph. That is a lot to ask for
something that can get as heavy as 1000 lbs. Have even considered going
on a diet.
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| Subject: | Re: Mk III to Xtra Conversion |
The airflow from behind the doors to the prop area is also of interest
to me. An upside down fin similar to what we see on race cars which
they attach to the trunk lid if attached to the rear belly, might bring
air up to the prop. And, maybe some diverters or vortex generators
attached to the rear sides of the fuselage would help. I do know that
my prop gets more air with my half (summer) doors than with my full
coverage winter doors. Someone has mentioned a "V" be installed, but I
cannot visualize it.
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