---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/25/07: 45 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:52 AM - Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels (Richard Girard) 2. 12:59 AM - Re: panel (icrashrc) 3. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Kolb History (Jeremy Casey) 4. 07:14 AM - Airspeed Indicator Markings (JetPilot) 5. 08:03 AM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (John Hauck) 6. 08:34 AM - New ANR Headsets (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 7. 08:55 AM - Re: that old video (possums) 8. 10:06 AM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (Ralph) 9. 10:06 AM - Re: New ANR Headsets (George Bass) 10. 10:16 AM - Re: New ANR Headsets (John Hauck) 11. 10:16 AM - Re: that old video (JetPilot) 12. 11:11 AM - Re: New ANR Headsets (Terry) 13. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: that old video (Bob Noyer) 14. 11:36 AM - Fuel Flow at Cruise (jim) 15. 12:03 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (David Lehman) 16. 12:29 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Terry) 17. 01:18 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (Vic Peters) 18. 01:18 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Richard Pike) 19. 02:14 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Jim Dunn) 20. 02:22 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (knowvne@aol.com) 21. 02:58 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (knowvne@aol.com) 22. 03:07 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (Richard Pike) 23. 03:37 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Jim Dunn) 24. 04:01 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (planecrazzzy) 25. 04:12 PM - Re: panel (Paul Petty) 26. 04:14 PM - Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels (planecrazzzy) 27. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels (Larry Bourne) 28. 05:35 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (JetPilot) 29. 05:48 PM - new video (Larry Cottrell) 30. 06:02 PM - Re: new video (JetPilot) 31. 06:36 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 32. 06:36 PM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (planecrazzzy) 33. 06:47 PM - Re: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels (Richard Girard) 34. 07:11 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (DAquaNut@aol.com) 35. 07:13 PM - Re: Best Oil Filter for the 912 (JetPilot) 36. 07:39 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Earl & Mim Zimmerman) 37. 07:53 PM - Re: Re: Best Oil Filter for the 912 (John Hauck) 38. 07:54 PM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (John Hauck) 39. 08:31 PM - wings () 40. 08:58 PM - Re: wings (John Hauck) 41. 09:00 PM - Re: wings (Richard Pike) 42. 09:06 PM - Re: Kolb History (JetPilot) 43. 09:12 PM - Re: wings (John Hauck) 44. 09:16 PM - Re: Kolb History (John Hauck) 45. 10:18 PM - Re: new video (R. Hankins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:27 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels Recently I rebuilt the BRS mount on my Mk 3, moving it forward and down and reducing the part count. While finishing up other projects, I've put off trimming the gap cover to fit the BRS's new location until yesterday and got a nice surprise. If you are an HFT customer and you receive the e-mail sale flyers you've probably seen the diamond coated cutoff wheels they occasionally offer at a discount. Normally they sell for $9.95 for a package of five, but on sale they are marked down to $1.99. These little wheels slice right through .06 Lexan like the proverbial hot knife and the butter. And, better yet, they last. I cut about 30 inches with the diamond wheels buried in the cut, plus a fair amount of trimming and it showed no sign of wear or build up of sludge to the wheel. When I went after the aluminum angle that frames the gap seal the wheel began to show some wear but was still hanging in after a couple of inches of .06 aluminum. I'm not a share holder or agent for Chinese commerce, but these little buggers are really nice and dirt cheap at the sale price. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: panel From: "icrashrc" Paul, Any chance you could send a high res copy of picture P1230040.JPG to me? I would like to get a better idea of what you've done and how you've done it. Thank you, Scott icrashrc@aol.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90324#90324 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:20 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Casey" <1planeguy@kilocharlie.us> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb History Made an ID mistake on the red Sling Shot. That was Oshkosh 1999 and the Sling Shot belongs to Bruce Chesnut. Was just now looking at that photo and saw the 912 sitting on it. The old Kolb Sling Shot was powered with a 582. Xin loi! john h mkIII Hey John, That exact plane is now a resident of Jones Light airfield. Is owned by a Mr. Mike Welch (not the one on this list of recent). It has gone through a few owners and couple of incidents but is now in good hands and being cared for and flown regular. Also has a 582 on it now...that happened to come off Steven Greens M3...man what a small world it is. Jeremy Casey ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "JetPilot" I see in a lot of pictures you guys have nice, perfect looking white, red and green arcs on your airspeed indicators. Being that every plane is different, im assuming that you put these markings on yourself ? How did you guys do this ? Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90358#90358 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:15 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings markings on yourself ? How did you guys do this ? | | Michael A. Bigelow Mike: Most aircraft parts houses have sticky arcs available in kit form for a reasonable price. I did my instruments, as most other homebuilders have done. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:34:11 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New ANR Headsets From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Fellow Kolbers - I just tried a new pair of ANR headsets on a flight this morning in my Mark-III, and I'm happy to report THEY WORK GREAT! All the low-frequency thrumming (which is so fatiguing after more than a half hour of flying) is gone. What a pleasurable difference. I was originally planning to buy the DRE-6000 (following the many positive reports from this List), but when I discovered that they are no longer in production, I went looking for other options in the $300 price range. What I bought was a LiteSPEED QFR XCc ANR headset, rated at 14 dB active, and 26 dB passive noise cancellation. Very light and comfortable. Comes with audio interfaces for music or cell phone. $260 at the local pilot shop here in Albuquerque. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul, and enjoying the pleasures of quiet flying in Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:35 AM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video At 12:15 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: > >Get to post my tired old video again!>> > >Hi, >enjoyed it again too. The clip is just over a minute, how high were >you when the clip started? > >Cheers > >Pat I'd be guessing, but I think is would be 500 - 600 ft off the ground. Then engine was turned off about 2000 ft AGL and I know that 600 ft is too high too land in that field at that point of the approach - so I'm guessing closer to 500. I can hear myself saying "too high" at one point on the tape. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:32 AM PST US From: "Ralph" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings Get the sticky yellow, green, and red arcs from LEAF. Ralph -- "JetPilot" wrote: I see in a lot of pictures you guys have nice, perfect looking white, red and green arcs on your airspeed indicators. Being that every plane is different, im assuming that you put these markings on yourself ? How did you guys do this ? Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90358#90358 ________________________________________________________________________ Interested in getting caught up on today's news? Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=198954&u=http://www.usatoday.com/news/front.htm?csp=24 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:32 AM PST US From: "George Bass" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New ANR Headsets I have no idea how well these items compare to the headset that by Dennis Kirby mentioned, but, the price is certainly right, & so is the price. For a "Buy It Now" price of $155.00 on eBay. Also states that it has a 28.7 Noise Reduction Rate, weighs only 12 ounces & has a 3 year warranty. Lightspeed Aviation Passive Headset QFR Solo/ C Item Number: 170072972527 P.S.: (20 listed available) Blue skies, George Bass DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:04 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New ANR Headsets Also states that it has a 28.7 Noise Reduction Rate, weighs only 12 ounces & has a 3 year warranty. Lightspeed Aviation Passive Headset QFR Solo/ C Item Number: 170072972527 George Bass George: Those are not the same model as the XC that Dennis purchased. The ebay models listed are passive and not active. I did a search for them earlier and thought I have discovered a bonanza. hehehe After I read into it discovered I had not found anything. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: that old video From: "JetPilot" Where can I see this video ???? -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90399#90399 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:54 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New ANR Headsets George Bass wrote: > I have no idea how well these items compare to the headset that > by Dennis Kirby mentioned, but, the price is certainly right, & so > is the price. For a "Buy It Now" price of $155.00 on eBay. > > Also states that it has a 28.7 Noise Reduction Rate, weighs only > 12 ounces & has a 3 year warranty. > > > Lightspeed Aviation Passive Headset QFR Solo/ C > > Item Number: 170072972527 > > P.S.: (20 listed available) > > Blue skies, > > George Bass > George, I tried these for my FireFly and they are a good passive headset, not ANR, but if you wear glasses or sunglasses as I do when flying, you won't get a good seal because of the stems. You need gel seals for glasses. Fortunately, Spinners Pilot Shop let me trade them for Flightcom. Terry - Firefly # 95 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:03 AM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: that old video Jetpilot...here's video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9177096133625180462&hl=en regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:20 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise From: "jim" What sort of cruise fuel flows do you get? I haven't flown my Firefly long enough or far enough to know. I was looking at the Rotax data sheets and they indicate 4.5 to 5.5 gph for a 447 or 503 in cruise. I though folks got more like 2gph??? What are your cruise fuel flows (preferably with associated airspeed)? -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90416#90416 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:05 PM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise Original dirty Firestar... 3-3.5+/- GPH, single carb. 503, indicate 67@SL... 4-4.5+/- GPH, dual carb. 503, indicate 67@SL... DVD On 1/25/07, jim wrote: > > > What sort of cruise fuel flows do you get? I haven't flown my Firefly > long enough or far enough to know. I was looking at the Rotax data sheets > and they indicate 4.5 to 5.5 gph for a 447 or 503 in cruise. I though > folks got more like 2gph??? > > What are your cruise fuel flows (preferably with associated airspeed)? > > -------- > Jim > N. Idaho > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:47 PM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise jim wrote: > >What sort of cruise fuel flows do you get? I haven't flown my Firefly long enough or far enough to know. I was looking at the Rotax data sheets and they indicate 4.5 to 5.5 gph for a 447 or 503 in cruise. I though folks got more like 2gph??? > >What are your cruise fuel flows (preferably with associated airspeed)? > >-------- >Jim >N. Idaho > > > Jim, I get about 2 gph on my FireFly. I swing a 66" Tennessee Prop and can go about 120 miles before having to set down for more fuel depending on the air density and my flying maneuvers. Great mileage now, but cold!!!!! Enjoy your FireFly!!! Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:04 PM PST US From: "Vic Peters" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings For enough income to actually pay rent and eat I do vinyl lettering out of my home. I can make arcs, circles, graphics, panel markings and letters from 1/4' to 24" any color. Tell me what size,color and what you'd like to donate + postage. You really should take advantage of this, I'm cheap! I've also done many #'s & logos for models also. Vic MKX 912 Maine ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:41 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise MKIII Rotax 582, B box 2.58:1 Ivo 2 blade, 68" About 3.5 gph at 65 mph at 5200 rpm FSII Rotax 582, E box 2.62:1 Ivo 2 blade 68" About 3 gph at 65 mph at 4800 rpm Fuel flow is a function of rpm & load. Streamline the airframe, and rpm's drop for a given speed. As rpm's drop, fuel flow goes down. A big engine loafing is preferable to a little one screaming, it's quieter and doesn't use any more fuel, sometimes it uses less fuel. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise > > What sort of cruise fuel flows do you get? I haven't flown my Firefly > long enough or far enough to know. I was looking at the Rotax data sheets > and they indicate 4.5 to 5.5 gph for a 447 or 503 in cruise. I though > folks got more like 2gph??? > > What are your cruise fuel flows (preferably with associated airspeed)? > > -------- > Jim > N. Idaho > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90416#90416 > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise From: "Jim Dunn" I don't know how Rotax took their measurements, but their 447 graphs shows no change in fuel flow (5.3gph) from 5500 rpm (35HP) to 7000 rpm (40HP). My Firefly has a 503 DCDI. Rotax fuel flow figures for this engine make more sense in that they follow RPM/HP to max RPM. But it still shows fuel flow at 4.8gph @ 4500 rpm (27HP) to 5.8gph @ 6500 rpm (50HP). Even with short flights it seems my fuel flow is not more than 3 gph at 60 mph. > Fuel flow is a function of rpm & load. > Streamline the airframe, and rpm's drop for a given speed. > As rpm's drop, fuel flow goes down. > A big engine loafing is preferable to a little one screaming, it's quieter > and doesn't use any more fuel, sometimes it uses less fuel. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: knowvne@aol.com Hey VIC Saw you post on Vinyl lettering... What would something like this run me??? Letters are to be applied to the windows of a truck shell... They must fit across a 36 inch space...... So I'm not sure how large the font could be.... I'm guessing 1" maybe 1.25" I was thinking it might end up being around 1" maybe 1.25" x 36" Again just the letters without a background color.... Glass is smoke black now... Thanks.. Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: vicsvinyl@verizon.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings For enough income to actually pay rent and eat I do vinyl lettering out of my home. =C2- I can make arcs, circles, graphics, panel markings and letters from 1/4' to 24" any color. =C2- Tell me what size,color and what you'd like to donate + postage. =C2- You really should take advantage of this, I'm cheap! =C2-I've also done many #'s & logos for models also. =C2- Vic MKX 912 Maine ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:58:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise From: knowvne@aol.com Hey Richard With the 503 DC on the Firefly are you still 103 legal or did you bust the weight limits? All I've ever read about on a Fireflyis the smaller 447... Thanks Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: jim@tru-cast.com Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:13:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise I don't know how Rotax took their measurements, but their 447 graphs shows no change in fuel flow (5.3gph) from 5500 rpm (35HP) to 7000 rpm (40HP). My Firefly has a 503 DCDI. Rotax fuel flow figures for this engine make more sense in that they follow RPM/HP to max RPM. But it still shows fuel flow at 4.8gph @ 4500 rpm (27HP) to 5.8gph @ 6500 rpm (50HP). Even with short flights it seems my fuel flow is not more than 3 gph at 60 mph. > Fuel flow is a function of rpm & load. > Streamline the airframe, and rpm's drop for a given speed. > As rpm's drop, fuel flow goes down. > A big engine loafing is preferable to a little one screaming, it's quieter > and doesn't use any more fuel, sometimes it uses less fuel. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:56 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings Vic, I never put the Kolb MKIII vinyl decal/sticker on my MKIII because it is the wrong color. If I sent it to you with a color swatch, could you do a couple clones of them in blue? Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic Peters To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Airspeed Indicator Markings For enough income to actually pay rent and eat I do vinyl lettering out of my home. I can make arcs, circles, graphics, panel markings and letters from 1/4' to 24" any color. Tell me what size,color and what you'd like to donate + postage. You really should take advantage of this, I'm cheap! I've also done many #'s & logos for models also. Vic MKX 912 Maine ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise From: "Jim Dunn" The Firefly is over 254# with the 503. Even with the 447 you can only have 1 carb, a 2-bladed wood prop, 4" wheels, no brakes, no oil injection, no electrical, no or minimal instruments, and minimal paint. I think you may also have to cover the wings with toilet paper instead of Polyfiber. If I had built it I would have put on a 447. The guy I bought it from had a new 503 already so he bought the Firefly and put his engine on it. > > Hey Richard > With the 503 DC on the Firefly are you still 103 legal or did you bust > the weight limits? > All I've ever read about on a Fireflyis the smaller 447... > > Thanks > > Mark Vaughn > > -----Original Message----- > From: jim@tru-cast.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:13:52 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise > > > I don't know how Rotax took their measurements, but their 447 graphs > shows > no change in fuel flow (5.3gph) from 5500 rpm (35HP) to 7000 rpm (40HP). > > My Firefly has a 503 DCDI. Rotax fuel flow figures for this engine make > more sense in that they follow RPM/HP to max RPM. But it still shows > fuel > flow at 4.8gph @ 4500 rpm (27HP) to 5.8gph @ 6500 rpm (50HP). Even with > short flights it seems my fuel flow is not more than 3 gph at 60 mph. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:01:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "planecrazzzy" Hi Mike, I bought my arc's at ??? ACS&S or LEAF.... One thing to remember , If you look at the picture that I attached... The Airworthiness Inspection requires the glass to be taped to the outer ring.....Notice my Red Vne.....it overlaps. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN JetPilot wrote: > I see in a lot of pictures you guys have nice, perfect looking white, red and green arcs on your airspeed indicators. > > Being that every plane is different, im assuming that you put these markings on yourself ? How did you guys do this ? > > Michael A. Bigelow -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90456#90456 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/elt_002_184.jpg ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: panel From: "Paul Petty" Scott, I can and will take more photos of the panel tonight in high def and e-mail them to you. The e-mail off-list for you doesnt seam to work. Send me a e-mail @ paulpetty@myway.com and I will zip them right to you! Also feel free to call me anytime at 601-480-9979. -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90457#90457 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:14:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels From: "planecrazzzy" Why would you use a Diamond wheel to cut Aluminum ???? Seems like it would just "Gum" it up.... They make stuff that coats an abrasive wheel so that it won't gum up Sometimes WD-40 will work too.... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90458#90458 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:31 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels Way back in the beginnings of Vamoose, some "friend" told me to use a router to cut thin sheet aluminum, so I gave it a go. It worked ! ! ! Cut that there alumineeum like cheese.........but cleanup was a beast. Man, did that ever make a mess. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels > > Why would you use a Diamond wheel to cut Aluminum ???? > > Seems like it would just "Gum" it up.... > > They make stuff that coats an abrasive wheel so that it won't gum up > > Sometimes WD-40 will work too.... > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90458#90458 > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "JetPilot" Hi Mike, That is the same ASI that I have ! Same ESI also. What is LEAF and also, where did you get the transparent decals with the lettering that give your V-Speeds and that says ESI warning ? -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90476#90476 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightmikekolbflorida_148.jpg ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: new video I managed to get out today and fly for the first time since becoming a pilot. Somehow other than getting to fly a plane that I liked, there didn't seem to be much difference from the time I was an ultra light pilot. Imagine that! I took some short videos of the scenery, wild horses, and the Owyhee River Canyon. Sorry about the horses, but it was in really hostile territory and I wasn't able to go as slow as I would have liked. It is just as well, I really don't like to stress them very much. There were lots of horse bands out there today. They of course were where they could access the water in the canyons. The mountain is singular, Steens Mt. Juts up to 10000 feet MSL out of the otherwise flat desert. The River has cut through the desert leaving a rather spectacular area to visit. I of course only touched on a small rather drab area. I was actually looking for some game to fly my hawk on. :-) You may have to cut and paste, perhaps not. Larry http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2376663474002568632 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7842798223607400927 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5368054455726402302 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: new video From: "JetPilot" Looks like Larry had more fun than we did today... -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90484#90484 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:01 PM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise I get 2.5 an hour not pushing it with my 447 Rotax on a Firestar and that is using a NAVMAN Fuel flow meter Ellery do not archive ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:36:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Mike, I'm a "Cheap" SOB....Those were typed on the computer, Then printed out....cut out....and "Taped" ( By the way , I changed those "V - Speeds" , I had some wrong ) That's another thing that they want for the Airworthiness inspection.... EVERYTHING LABELED....So until you get it the way you want it... A quick solution is to type it , print it , Tape it... Do you have the VSI in your EIS ? .....( I Love mine ) Well, it's Not LEAF...... it's L.E.A.F. I think there in Wiscosin.... I bought my Engine and prop from them... Here's there address : http://www.leadingedge-airfoils.com/ They have a catolog too , it's not as big as ACS&S .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike in MN .. .. JetPilot wrote: > Hi Mike, > > That is the same ASI that I have ! Same ESI also. What is LEAF and also, where did you get the transparent decals with the lettering that give your V-Speeds and that says ESI warning ? -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90490#90490 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:39 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels The problem with trying to cut aluminum with a router is that you have to do conventional cutting (going against the rotation of the cutter). The chip is carried around to the material and gets friction welded to it. Router bits are usually reverse spiral, too, and that doesn't help the problem either. If the cutter is buried in the material you can climb cut and that helps a lot, but if you come far enough out and the cutter grabs, watch out. As for cutting aluminum with a diamond wheel, the edge began to break down, but it didn't gall up at all. My only excuse is that I was working on the floor of the hangar, my back was killing me, and what the heck, I've got about 50 of the little buggers, so I just plowed on through. You're right, WD40 is a great cutting lubricant as a quick and dirty method, but kerosene with it's oily base seems to stick a bit better. Ah, memories. Cutting 2" aluminum tooling plate with a worm drive saw, a carbide blade, and a spray bottle of kerosene in the Kansas summer sun. Way too much fun. Rick On 1/25/07, Larry Bourne wrote: > > > Way back in the beginnings of Vamoose, some "friend" told me to use a > router > to cut thin sheet aluminum, so I gave it a go. It worked ! ! ! Cut that > there alumineeum like cheese.........but cleanup was a beast. Man, did > that > ever make a mess. Lar. Do not > Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Santa Fe, NM > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "planecrazzzy" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 4:13 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Harbor Freight Tools diamond cutting wheels > > > > > > Why would you use a Diamond wheel to cut Aluminum ???? > > > > Seems like it would just "Gum" it up.... > > > > They make stuff that coats an abrasive wheel so that it won't gum up > > > > Sometimes WD-40 will work too.... > > > > Gotta Fly... > > Mike in MN > > > > -------- > > . > > . > > . > > . > > . > > Do Not Archive > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90458#90458 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:31 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise In a message dated 1/25/2007 2:31:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, tkrolfe@usadatanet.net writes: I get about 2 gph on my FireFly. I swing a 66" Tennessee Prop and can go about 120 miles before having to set down for more fuel depending on the air density and my flying maneuvers. Great mileage now, but cold!!!!! Enjoy your FireFly!!! Terry - FireFly #95 Terry, What speed are you cruising to get 2 gph? I burn 3.5- 3.45 gph at 60-65 mph Ed (In Houston FF#62) Where we had A sunny day for the first time in 2 weeks! ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:57 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Best Oil Filter for the 912 From: "JetPilot" I have been researching Rogers post about oil filters and found the exact same results that Robert did. Motorcycle people are an excellent source for high performance engine information, and they gave the Purolator Pure One filter the best ratings in filtering out the smallest particles, the amount of filter media used, and construction. Some off road sites also came to the same conclusion Roberd did, Pure One beign the best, Mobil 1 being second, and down from there.... Check out the following websites. http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/Filters.html#OilFilters http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters.html I was hesitant to try a different oil filter in my brand new 912-s, and I could care less if the filter cost 5 dollars or 15 dollars, I just want to put on the best filter avialable. I called some Rotax mechanics and asked them about it, and they gave me the same line they gave Robert, " Use Rotax because of the higher bypass pressure "... Well the Rotax Bypass pressure is 13 PSI and the Purolator bypass pressure is 12 PSI, 1 PSI just will not make any difference... Here is the Kicker, the mechanic said "you dont want to be in bypass"... The Purolator filter has a lot more media than the Rotax Filter, so even though it is 1 PSI difference, the oil flow through a lot of media in the Purolator is much better than through less media in the Rotax filter. So in the end, I am less likely to see bypass at cold oil temperatures or due to clogging in the Purolator filter. One thing some websites said is that the purolator has so much filter media, that they from looking at it they think it could impede flow as the pleats are close together, although there have never been any reported problems. If I were very worried about this, and wanted to be conservative and error on the safe side, I would use the Mobil 1 filter... For those of you that use Fram filters in your engines ( I have used Fram in my cars for years ) you REALLY need to see the bottom of the page in the last link of the websites !!! Fram always rates in the lowest of the sites I have found, but this is scarey !!! The easy thing for me to do would be to just buy the Rotax filter, but I want the best filter I can get. Falsely feeling good about a Rotax Filter just because they relabeled it and Rotax tells us all to use it does not make it the best filter. Look how long it took manufaturers to discover the advantages of synthetic oil and finally give us their "blessing" to use it. I have run out of reasons not to stick a Purolator filter on my 912-s after my first oil change. Any input from those that have been flying 912's for a long time would be greatly appreciated. Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90503#90503 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/oilfilters3_164.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/oilfilters3_808.jpg ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:35 PM PST US From: Earl & Mim Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise Jim Dunn wrote: > My Firefly has a 503 DCDI. Wow! That ought to be a wild ride! Wish I had one. ~ Earl ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:04 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Best Oil Filter for the 912 exact same results that Robert did. | | Michael A. Bigelow Hi Mike: IIRC I have already given you my opinion and the product I use on this issue. I read all these "less than scientic" "unprofessional" reports that you posted some time ago, well before Roger Lee posted reference 912 oil filters. I just now scanned through them very quickly. Did not see any info on first pass or one pass percentage of filtration. The filter I use is 98%. I have been flying more than 2,000 hours with the Fram filters. The one I use now is the Fram TG3614. If I want to double the amount of filter area I can run a Fram TG3600. However, the Rotax Factory seems to think the size of their filter is more than sufficient to do the job, so I will stick to a filter of that size, or the TG3614. These filters are readily available and are inexpensive, about 5.00 at Wal-Mart. Since I am not independently wealthy, I will probably keep on using Fram. BTW I have had no filter, lubrication, or any problems with my two 912 engines because of a Fram oil filter. I might add, I drive a 1992 Dodge/Cummins diesel pickup with well over 317,000 miles, all those miles the engine was lubricated with Shell RotellaT and Fram filters. Most of the oil filters today are produced by a few, very manufacturers. I am sure we would be hearing thousands of horror stories if the filters being sold on the market are defective, inferior, and not getting the job done. Not trying to sell myself or anyone else on using Rotax, Purolator, Fram, or any other brand of oil filter. I haven't seen or experienced anything to make me change my mind about the way I maintain my Rotax 912ULS. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:39 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise | Wow! That ought to be a wild ride! Wish I had one. ~ Earl Earl: I get a rush flying a 447 FF. The 503 would blow my mind. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:31:25 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: wings Has anyone chose to rib stitch instead of riveting the skin to the wing's? I'm thinking it will leave the rib's stronger this way as apposed to drilling into them. Any thought's -- Rob. ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:26 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wings I'm thinking it will leave the rib's stronger this way as apposed to drilling into them. Any thought's | -- | Rob. Rob: Rib stitching works better with flat wood ribs. Fabric rivets work better with round aluminum tubing. Kolbs have amassed thousands of hours over the years with no indication of weak ribs because of rib stitching. It is a well proven, approved method of fixing fabric to the wing. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:51 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wings Yes I have, and yes I think it would. But almost no one on the list agrees with me. However, I am unwilling to abuse my airplane sufficient to find a conclusive answer... Don't know how long it takes to drill all those holes, but my wife and I rib stiched one wing in half a day, and a friend brought his son over the next day to see how it was done and we did the other one in about three hours. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: wings > > Has anyone chose to rib stitch instead of riveting the skin to the wing's? > I'm thinking it will leave the rib's stronger this way as apposed to > drilling into them. Any thought's > -- > Rob. > > > ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb History From: "JetPilot" Here is a peice of Kolb History that I was suprised to see still flying !!! I bet John H. has seen this one at one time or another. -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90522#90522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolbultrastar2_957.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolbultrastar1_636.jpg ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 09:12:38 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wings | indication of weak ribs because of rib stitching. It is a well | proven, approved method of fixing fabric to the wing. | | john h Hi Gang: Made a boo boo. The above is incorrect. Should have said, "No indication of weakened ribs because of drilling for fabric rivets." Xin loi!! john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:51 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb History From: "John Hauck" Mike: That's the "flying stork", Richard Swiderski's old Ultrastar. I got on his tail and stayed there 30 mins before I showed myself and my Firestar. That will be 20 years ago next November. I met Richard the first time after we landed. I was on my first long cross country flight from hauck's holler to Miami, FL, and return. 1,500 miles was a long ways to fly and live in a Firestar in 1987. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90524#90524 ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 10:18:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: new video From: "R. Hankins" Yes, I'm sure he did. I was stuck at work all day. I can't wait to fly that area again this spring. Here are some sheep from last year. 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