---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/27/07: 40 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:29 AM - Re: wings (Steven Green) 2. 04:45 AM - Re: that old video (pat ladd) 3. 06:22 AM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (JetPilot) 4. 06:23 AM - Re: wings (planecrazzzy) 5. 06:55 AM - Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings (planecrazzzy) 6. 07:03 AM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (Terry) 7. 07:06 AM - Re: Re: Aluminum and routers (Charlie England) 8. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: new video (Vic Peters) 9. 08:44 AM - Re: Fuel Flow at Cruise (DAquaNut@aol.com) 10. 08:44 AM - Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Richard Girard) 11. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Kolb glider (possums) 12. 09:52 AM - Lumbar Support (planecrazzzy) 13. 10:24 AM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Wayne Boyter) 14. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: fuel tank piping (pat ladd) 15. 11:31 AM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Richard Girard) 16. 11:34 AM - Re: that old video (possums) 17. 12:06 PM - Re: that old video (JetPilot) 18. 12:12 PM - Re: Lumbar Support (JetPilot) 19. 12:24 PM - Re: that old video (pat ladd) 20. 12:40 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (John Hauck) 21. 12:57 PM - Re: Re: that old video (knowvne@aol.com) 22. 02:03 PM - Panel pics (Paul Petty) 23. 02:15 PM - Re: Lumbar Support (planecrazzzy) 24. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: that old video (John Hauck) 25. 02:57 PM - Re: Lumbar Support (Larry Bourne) 26. 03:02 PM - Re: that old video (Larry Bourne) 27. 03:02 PM - Re: Lumbar Support (planecrazzzy) 28. 03:10 PM - Re: Lumbar Support (planecrazzzy) 29. 03:17 PM - Re: Panel pics (planecrazzzy) 30. 03:45 PM - Re: Re: Lumbar Support (Larry Bourne) 31. 04:14 PM - Polishing the B box (planecrazzzy) 32. 04:56 PM - Re: that old video (JetPilot) 33. 05:03 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (APilot@webtv.net) 34. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: that old video (Robert Laird) 35. 05:23 PM - Steel landing gear? Which models? (John H Murphy) 36. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: that old video (John Hauck) 37. 05:43 PM - Anybody with a Kolbra/Mark 111 in Albuquerque, New Mexico? (John H Murphy) 38. 06:16 PM - Re: Steel landing gear? Which models? (planecrazzzy) 39. 06:41 PM - Re: Steel landing gear? Which models? (Roger Lee) 40. 09:59 PM - Re: Mk 3 steel main gear legs (Denny Rowe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:29:53 AM PST US From: "Steven Green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: wings Mike, If you decide to go with the rivets and buy your covering supplies from Jim and Dondi they will send you a drill jig to make drilling the ribs a little easier. Steven > > For what it's worth... > John H. has some important points re: stitching, and bunching of > tape, etc. And as I already stated, stitching is really a two man job. > Although I intended on rib-stitching, my mind can easily be changed!!!! > > My only question is: Are the rivets very noticable when the wing is > finished??? > If they aren't, then I will go back to the rivet method. It will be a LOT > less work, that's for sure. > Mike in Utah > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:45:03 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video I think is would be 500 - 600 ft off the ground.>> Hi Possum, To take over a minute from that height to the ground is very good. Better than my Challenger. On the other hand I had the engine quit at around that height and you had turned the engine off at 2000ft so you were pretty well sorted out to make such a good landing while I arrived too fast in a cloud of dust after about 30 seconds. Incidentally I read in an article by our Popular Flying Assoc. Chief Coach the following points re forced landings. I have deleted stuff which does not apply to our sort of planes. 1.Fly the plane. 2. Fly best L/D (around 1.4 of stall speed) 3. Turn downwind. This will let you cover more ground and therefore give a wider selection of fields. 4. Pick Field. Surface, Size, Shape, Slope, Situation. 5. Turn off engine. You do NOT want it to start again just when you are lined up. Of course if you have time get off a MAYDAY. (Possum from 2000 ft had enough time to make a cup of tea.) Farnborough, our main testing and research centre, reckon that an `unalerted reaction time` is 6 seconds. Unless your plane has lots of inertial energy (ours dont) and you have high skill levels (which of course we all have) do NOT attempt to turn back in the event of an engine failure at take off. Use an arc of 45 degrees either side of the nose. The RAF does not teach turn backs at all in their Grob 109 Tutors. The instructors are limited to 600ft minimum turn back height, less in narrow fields. Fly the plane until impact no matter what you are going to hit. Lack of attention can stall you in and the impact even at low level could drop the engine on you. Flying into the far hedge at 20 mph is better than into the near hedge at 60. Most of this is familiar to many of us but in the light of recent discussion I thought it was relevant. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:40 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "JetPilot" I downloaded it from the website. The computer, some paper, and clear tape will make great V speeds. Thanks Mike ! -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90789#90789 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:26 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: wings From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Steve, I had my Doubts about that drilling jig at first... But that little sucker really worked GOOD ! Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90790#90790 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:07 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Airspeed Indicator Markings From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Mike, If you notice , the important numbers are in RED....Stall & Vne One of these days , I'm gonna have an Engraving Shop carve me one out of Plastic ( two tone) like name tags....Then I'll use a red Sharpie to make the Stall & Vne in red.... Same with the other side where I have "Experimental N381PM" it'll probly be cheap enough to replace them all with plastic ones... After you find out "YOUR" stall speed , That book tells you how to figure out the other "V speeds".....at least "ballpark" The book is also handy for flight testing your plane....it gives pretty good suggestions for flight plans....especially that first flight. One thing the FAA guy wanted , that the book didn'y mention.... He wanted the CG in the "Front half" of the CG Range.... I had to drain my rear fuel tank ( re-plumb ) and also put 16 lbs in the nose of the aircraft to get it . Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN JetPilot wrote: > I downloaded it from the website. The computer, some paper, and clear tape will make great V speeds. > > Thanks Mike ! -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90796#90796 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:28 AM PST US From: Terry Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/26/2007 8:38:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, > tkrolfe@usadatanet.net writes: > > > Ed, > > What's your hurry? I like to fly slow and gawk, that's why I > built a FireFly ultralight. I normally cruise at 5,000 to 5,200 > rpm which translates into 50 mph to 52 mph. Sometimes at 4,800 > rpm if interested in a particular place and want to enjoy. I can > go faster, but don't need to. Flying for pleasure, not to get > somewhere. This is with an open cockpit, probably could do a > little better with a full enclosure. Also, the number of > takeoff's really increases the fuel burn rate. > > Fuel consumption goes up in mid summer with the loss of air density. > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > Terry, > > When you said you could go 120 miles before refueling, I assumed > you were flying to get somewhere. So you figure if I held my RPMS to > 5200 I should be able to go 100 miles on a tank? I havent tried going > that slow when going cross country! > > > Ed (Firefly #62) > Ed, Didn't mean to come off as argumentative, just informative! When I said I could go 120 miles before refueling, I didn't mean that I do. I was translating my fuel burn into continuous miles if I didn't put down as I usually do. My longest flights so far have been in the 50 ml. range. Have a fellow flyer who keeps pushing me to go further which I will do. Have the luxury of beautiful Lancaster county, PA to fly over with it's many Amish farms. What I was trying to convey is that I don't have the need for speed, but do enjoy the performance level of the FireFly, especially the climb rate. Another benefit to keeping rpm down is the life of the 447. 622 hr.'s and still purring with no tear down performed. "Now I know I will hear about that" as it is the common wisdom of this list that you have to tear down regularly and de-carbon and so on. Luckily, my friend and fellow kolb flyer is a 2 cycle guru and repairman with much experience and I follow his lead on maintenance. I expect maybe 1000 hr.'s before tear down. Not suggesting anyone else follow this program, but I do know that the Rotax engine isn't the fragile little thing that many make it out to be. It had powered many snowmobiles and jet ski's many miles before being used by us on ultralight's. As far as you being able to go 100 miles on a five gallon tank of gas, that should be quite possible depending on your gross weight and air density and not doing several takeoff's. Being in Texas, I assume that your average temperatures when flying is higher than mine and your therefore your fuel consumption will be higher. Terry - FireFly #95 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:12 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Aluminum and routers Vic Peters wrote: > I tried the router table trick with 3/8" aluminun, free hand. Not too > bright but it worked great. First cut it out with a jig saw and > cutting oil (the type you would use with a drill press). Without the > oil you could only get about an inch of cut. > > Then I tried the 1/8" instrument panel that comes with the Extra's > pod. That plate fetched up on the bit jumped in the air fell back on > the bit busted it and bound up stopping the motor. The only thing I > could do was yank the power plug. > Believe it or not all was saved except the bit ofcourse. I > finished it with gloves on. If you have a router table and like your > fingers use a clamping system. > > Vic > 912 EXRA > Me. I've had success using a roto-zip bit (like sheet-rock/dry wall finishers use) in a drill press. The flutes seem to be open enough to avoid clogging & I haven't had to use cutting fluid. Charlie ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:19 AM PST US From: "Vic Peters" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: new video Now I see horses Thanks vic ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:50 AM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Flow at Cruise In a message dated 1/27/2007 9:04:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, tkrolfe@usadatanet.net writes: What I was trying to convey is that I don't have the need for speed, but do enjoy the performance level of the FireFly, especially the climb rate. Another benefit to keeping rpm down is the life of the 447. 622 hr.'s and still purring with no tear down performed. "Now I know I will hear about that" as it is the common wisdom of this list that you have to tear down regularly and de-carbon and so on. Luckily, my friend and fellow kolb flyer is a 2 cycle guru and repairman with much experience and I follow his lead on maintenance. I expect maybe 1000 hr.'s before tear down. Not suggesting anyone else f ollow this program, but I do know that the Rotax engine isn't the fragile little thing that many make it out to be. It had powered many snowmobiles and jet ski's many miles before being used by us on ultralight's. As far as you being able to go 100 miles on a five gallon tank of gas, that should be quite possible depending on your gross weight and air density and not doing several takeoff's. Being in Texas, I assume that your average temperatures when flying is higher than mine and your therefore your fuel consumption will be higher. Terry - FireFly #95 Terry, What you are saying now is more in line with what I am experiencing with my Firefly. I dont think I could go more than 60 mi without refueling. I do know that it burns a lot less fuel just taking it easy , flying slow and enjoying the scenery. I was about ready to get me a Tennessee wooden prop, but it sounds like there is not much difference between that and my 66' 2 blade Ivo. Ed (FF #62 In SOGGY Houston) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:51 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs When I was in the midst of main gear straightening caused by my horrible landing technique, I thought the way out was TNK's steel gear legs. Now that I am pretty happy with my landings, I know I'm not going to install them. $350 for the pair, plus shipping. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:47 AM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb glider At 01:38 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: > >Possum, > >Those are amazing pictures.. I never heard about that. Im >assuming you posted the story behond that, can you post a link to it ??? Just one of the guys that we pulled out of the woods way back when. A 20 mph crosswind landing flipped him up & over and upside down into the trees before he ever touched down in Taccoa? Four of us landed before him and he was dragging behind everybody because of his damn floats. We were actually eating lunch "Burger King Woppers" from our ground crew (my Dad) when we first heard his engine go from "normal" to this God aawful "Full throttle/chain saw" sound. You might notice that his "nose" never touched the ground. Got a Wrecker to pick his plane up and put it on the runway. He towed it home - one less Possum. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:10 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Lumbar Support From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Guys, On short trips , it doesn't bother me ...But on my longest Cross Country ( 400 Miles ) ....Well, longest so far... I noticed that I needed a little "lower back support"..I used a towel once, but it didn't really work very good..... While I was at work....I was sitting in the break room one day.... We have the office "OLD" swivel/rolling chairs..... I noticed this "Bulb" hanging from the chairs.... They have a blatter inside , and the bulb will inflate or de-flate it.... Man, do they got those things GLUED in there.... I put a couple of holes in it because I was trying to get it out without pulling off the back of the chair.....Which I had to do anyway.... Holes are fixed now... Well, I'm gonna have "Lumbar Support" in my Firestar.....Cool " Little Details" .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90840#90840 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_001_979.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_002_527.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:11 AM PST US From: "Wayne Boyter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs Are the new steel gear leg from kolb still have the wrong bend at the axle? all the old ones about two years ago, camber was way off when the weight was on the wheels. Wayne Kolb mark 3 582 three blade wrap drive 450 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:44 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs When I was in the midst of main gear straightening caused by my horrible landing technique, I thought the way out was TNK's steel gear legs. Now that I am pretty happy with my landings, I know I'm not going to install them. $350 for the pair, plus shipping. Rick -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:38 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: fuel tank piping I also have a 6 gal. bladder tank for a total of 16 gals. It has its own fuel pump and pumps into the fuel line that comes out of the tanks going to the engine. It fills up the tanks in flight. >> Hi Roger, thats interesting. Where did you install the bladder tank? I don`t understand why you joined the fuel line `between the tank and the engine`. Doesn`t that interfere with fuel to the engine?. I would have thought that a feed directly into the tank to top it up would be the way to go. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:38 AM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs I bought them in April or May of 2006 so I doubt they are in that lot. Rick On 1/27/07, Wayne Boyter wrote: > > Are the new steel gear leg from kolb still have the wrong bend at the > axle? all the old ones about two years ago, camber was way off when the > weight was on the wheels. > > Wayne > Kolb mark 3 > 582 three blade wrap drive > 450 hrs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Richard Girard > *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:44 AM > *Subject:* Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs > > When I was in the midst of main gear straightening caused by my horrible > landing technique, I thought the way out was TNK's steel gear legs. Now that > I am pretty happy with my landings, I know I'm not going to install them. > $350 for the pair, plus shipping. > > Rick > > -- > Rick Girard > "Ya'll drop on in" > takes on a whole new meaning > when you live at the airport. > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > * > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:43 AM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video At 07:44 AM 1/27/2007, you wrote: > >I think is would be 500 - 600 ft off the ground.>> > >Hi Possum, > >To take over a minute from that height to the ground is very good. >Better than my Challenger. On the other hand I had the engine quit >at around that height and you had turned the engine off at 2000ft so >you were pretty well sorted out to make such a good landing while I >arrived too fast in a cloud of dust after about 30 seconds. I had plenty of time to set up the landing, that's why I think the altitude was about right. That camera had a wide angle lens on it to get the wings in the shot, so it makes things look a little farther away than the really are. First time I cut my engine off, I was going to restart about 800 feet. I got so excited after flying my "glider" down from 3,000 ft, that I forgot to turn on the ignition and had to land deadstick. That is a common mistake, I hear. BTW : It doesn't mater how you juggle the coke or the throttle, it still won't crank with the ignition off. It's cold out there so here's another old video from a few summers ago called "We're pretty normal people .....most of the time" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6342651231744705575 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:06:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: that old video From: "JetPilot" That last video was awesome possums. I had not seen that before, im sure there are many newcommers to the list that are seeing these videos for the first time. Keep on posting :) Where was the beach video done ? Also, on the video of the glide to landing, how did you mount the camera to the tail of your kolb ? Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90872#90872 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:12:10 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support From: "JetPilot" Great idea Mike, being indoors from the bitter cold does have its advantages. Lots of neat improvements to that firestar this winter ! ( Kolb should look hard at that full enclosure ). I bet its not only warmer, and quieter, but also faster when its fully enclosed. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90873#90873 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 12:24:49 PM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video We're pretty normal people>> Hi Possum, I really liked that video. What freedom you guys have, and room of course. There is probably not a beach in the UK as empty of people as that. I like the soundtrack. Who was it, sounded like Jimmy Buffet to me. He is almost unknown here but i like his Margaritaville stuff. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:50 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs I know I'm not going to install them. | $350 for the pair, plus shipping. | | Rick Rick: If you keep on flying, eventually you will need them. Old hauck's holler proverb. ;-) john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:57:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: that old video From: knowvne@aol.com NICE footage.. A buddy and I did much the same thing on part 103 Trikes from the Plumb Island Airport on the NH Coast... We flew the length of the NH Coast line ( Only About 13 miles ) 8-) Then returned to the Airport for a not so warm welcome... Some along the beach called the airport and complained we were flying too close and too low... but truth be told we were out over the water MOST of the time 8-) BTW Thats only 13 miles of the USAs 12,383 miles of Coast line that we got yelled at for over flying 8-/ sad HuH http://www.teachervision.fen.com/maps/bodies-of-water/725.html Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: orcabonita@hotmail.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 3:06 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: that old video That last video was awesome possums. I had not seen that before, im sure there are many newcommers to the list that are seeing these videos for the first time. Keep on posting :) Where was the beach video done ? Also, on the video of the glide to landing, how did you mount the camera to the tail of your kolb ? Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90872#90872 ________________________________________________________________________ across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Panel pics From: "Paul Petty" Took some high res pics of the panel for Scott. Thought I would share with all of you. -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90892#90892 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1260048_145.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1260045_476.jpg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support From: "planecrazzzy" Hi Mike, The full enclosure "isn't" enclosed yet.....I'm at a standstill til I can push it out and set up the wings so I can see how to swing the doors. I just finished my Lumbar support, I'll be posting the pictures and process on the Wings forum ( I have a collection going there ) .. Gotta Fly... Mike in MN .. JetPilot wrote: > Great idea Mike, being indoors from the bitter cold does have its advantages. Lots of neat improvements to that firestar this winter ! ( Kolb should look hard at that full enclosure ). I bet its not only warmer, and quieter, but also faster when its fully enclosed. > > Mike -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90894#90894 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_006_455.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_005_837.jpg ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:12 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: that old video | Where was the beach video done ? | | Mike Mike B: Believe that beach was on St George Island on the Northwest Florida coast, not far from where I grew up in Tallahassee, Florida. I have been fortunate to fly this beach many times over the years. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:05 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lumbar Support Real good idea, Mike. I bought a temper foam seat from Oregon Aero for another project, and wound up using the zip on lumbar support in the Baja Bug. Works VEry well, but very spendy. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:51 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Lumbar Support > > Hey Guys, > On short trips , it doesn't bother me ...But on my longest > Cross Country ( 400 Miles ) ....Well, longest so far... > > I noticed that I needed a little "lower back support"..I used a towel > once, > but it didn't really work very good..... > > While I was at work....I was sitting in the break room one day.... > We have the office "OLD" swivel/rolling chairs..... > > I noticed this "Bulb" hanging from the chairs.... > They have a blatter inside , and the bulb will inflate or de-flate it.... > > Man, do they got those things GLUED in there.... I put a couple of holes > in it because I was trying to get it out without pulling off the back of > the chair.....Which I had to do anyway.... Holes are fixed now... > > Well, I'm gonna have "Lumbar Support" in my Firestar.....Cool > > " Little Details" > > . > Gotta Fly... > Mike & "Jaz" in MN > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90840#90840 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_001_979.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/lumbar_support_002_527.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:17 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video I loved that video the 1st time I saw it, and enjoyed it just as much now. What a way to go. Living in Possum-land can't be ALL bad. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "possums" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: that old video > > At 07:44 AM 1/27/2007, you wrote: >> >> ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:02:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support From: "planecrazzzy" The whole process is at this address if yer interested... http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4575 The reason I put them at this site , is because there's no messin around with the pictures , They're all "ready" to look at... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90906#90906 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:10:29 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Big Lar, Yeah, Ya start gettin up there in age and little comforts can make a BIG difference....What's next , Rolaids dispenser ? ( I don't fly without them close at hand ) Are the zip on lumbar supports "air" or foam...? Gotta Fly... Mike in MN biglar wrote: > Real good idea, Mike. I bought a temper foam seat from Oregon Aero for > another project, and wound up using the zip on lumbar support in the Baja > Bug. Works VEry well, but very spendy. Lar. > > Larry Bourne > Santa Fe, NM > www.gogittum.com > > --- -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90908#90908 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Panel pics From: "planecrazzzy" Hey Paul, Very "clean" looking wire job you've got going there ! Nice Job ! .. .. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN ( Jaz sez "Bark , bark" ) -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90909#90909 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:39 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support They are temper-foam, but very spendy. Oregon Aero builds a very good product, but you sure pay for them. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "planecrazzzy" Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lumbar Support > > Hey Big Lar, > Yeah, > Ya start gettin up there in age and little > comforts can make a BIG difference....What's next , Rolaids dispenser ? > ( I don't fly without them close at hand ) > > Are the zip on lumbar supports "air" or foam...? > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN > > > biglar wrote: >> Real good idea, Mike. I bought a temper foam seat from Oregon Aero for ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 04:14:01 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Polishing the B box From: "planecrazzzy" I polished one already...it looked pretty good.... This ones at the early stages , but already looking better than before... I've been using "Mothers" Also , after seeing the stuff that spider drug into his B box , I plugged the holes on the side... Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90916#90916 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/prop_extention__3_inch_723.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/polishing_b_box_003_208.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/polishing_b_box_001_257.jpg ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: that old video From: "JetPilot" John Hauck wrote: > > > Believe that beach was on St George Island on the Northwest Florida > coast, not far from where I grew up in Tallahassee, Florida. > > I know Tallahassee very well, where did you live John ? I lived there for 4 years while I went to FSU. I flew my Cessna 150 all over that area, based my plane at Bainbridge for a while and then at the big airport in tallahassee. Did you ever fly out to Dog island ? I should have recognized that coastline, but I did not buzz the beaches as often as I should have [Wink] I much prefered to fly down the apalachicola river at 10 feet as it wound its way south, and low over the bean and cotton fields near bainbridge. I was flying trail formation over the river with my friend one day, my friend flew past a fishing boat and I saw the guys head follow my friends plane, so I went over him at 10 feet and 100 MPH. The next day some dude went to the bainbridge airport looking for this idiot that almost knocked him out of his boat. Luckily the line guy was my buddy and assured the guy that no pilots that fly out of that airport would do such a thing ;) My buddy used to fly circles around the 22 nd floor of the Florida state capitol building with his Cessna 140, and no one ever said a word about it. Now that would probably get him thrown in prison. They are doing their best to take the fun out of Aviation, but have not succeeded completely :) Michael A. Bigelow -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90919#90919 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:58 PM PST US From: APilot@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs Tap Plastics sells a 1" dia "S" glass fiberglass rod that is 6 feet long for $30. That would make two gear legs if a 3/16 thick sleeve could be found to reduce the dia of the fuselage sleeve on a Mark III. Has anyone tried them for a gear leg replacement? My guess is that they might be too flexible. Vic in Sacramento ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:18 PM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: that old video So, Mr. Hauck, were you ever this good? :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUvmPj9zU64 On 1/27/07, John Hauck wrote: > > DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Steel landing gear? Which models? From: "John H Murphy" I noticed that my Kolb Firestar II has aluminum landing gear. Is the Kolbra the only Kolb that comes standard with steel landing gear? Can the Firestar's gear be upgraded to steel? Thx. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90924#90924 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:18 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: that old video | So, Mr. Hauck, were you ever this good? :-) Robert L: Well...........I didn't need a helicopter to knock the cap off a bottle of beer, and I used my helicopter to kill gooks, not play games. ;-) john h mkII PS: Last rotary wing flight June 1976. DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Anybody with a Kolbra/Mark 111 in Albuquerque, New Mexico? From: "John H Murphy" I'm going to be in Albuquerque, NM from the 1st to the 5th of Feb. My wife has a nursing conference she is going to attend. I'm hoping to find someone that has a Kolb aircraft that I could get some air time prior to me flying my Kolb Firestar II. Of course I would gladly pay for your time & effort in this regard. Thanks. -John Murphy (Henderson, NV- Kolb Firestar II owner). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90927#90927 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:16 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Steel landing gear? Which models? From: "planecrazzzy" You really should stick with the aluminum gear.... it helps "save" the aircraft from damage.... The gear is easy to straighten or replace....I bent my right leg once made a homemade leg straightener with a 12 ton jack....piece of cake ( see pictures ) Gotta Fly... Mike in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90934#90934 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_004_709.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_002_178.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/axle_press_001_101.jpg ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Steel landing gear? Which models? From: "Roger Lee" Hi All, As soon as I quit listening to CFI's telling me how to land I never had another tweaked gear. Then I went with 1 3/8" T-7075 aluminum gear legs. These did not taper and were 1 3/8" all the way to the axial hub. I remade the gear strut/axial hub receptcle. That took about 1 hour to weld it up. The 1 3/8" aluminum cost $140. All I had to do then was drill the bolt holes. Never ever had another issue. I think the older stock tappered aluminum gear legs were a little light when people started to put 1100-1200 lbs on them. I think they were originally designed for 1000 lbs. max. The older gear legs tappered down from 1 3/8" to 3/4". I also added 6" in length which worked out really well. It gave me a slightly wider stance and better ground handeling and raised me up some and then allowed the Kolb to be landed on the mains first all the time. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90938#90938 ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:20 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk 3 steel main gear legs > > Tap Plastics sells a 1" dia "S" glass fiberglass rod that is 6 feet long > for $30. My guess is that they > might be too flexible. Vic in Sacramento > > > Vic no doubt about it. 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