Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/29/07


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 03:14 AM - Re: Steel landing gear? Which models? (pat ladd)
     2. 03:35 AM - Re: skate boards (pat ladd)
     3. 04:53 AM - Re: help! (APilot@webtv.net)
     4. 06:34 AM - EIS to intercom wire (Paul Petty)
     5. 06:42 AM - Re: EIS to intercom wire (Richard Pike)
     6. 06:53 AM - Re: tank troubles (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
     7. 07:01 AM - Speaking of fabric (Vic Peters)
     8. 08:29 AM - Re: help! (Larry Cottrell)
     9. 09:06 AM - antennas (boyd)
    10. 11:04 AM - Re: skate boards (Bob Noyer)
    11. 12:57 PM - Re: wings  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
    12. 03:06 PM - PTT info (Bob Noyer)
    13. 03:33 PM - Re: EIS to intercom wire (Paul Petty)
    14. 03:38 PM - Re: antennas (Bob Noyer)
    15. 04:30 PM - Re: help! (Richard Girard)
    16. 04:51 PM - Kolb Road (David Kulp)
    17. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: EIS to intercom wire (John Hauck)
    18. 05:13 PM - Re: antennas (APilot@webtv.net)
    19. 05:30 PM - Re: antennas (Herb Gayheart)
    20. 05:32 PM - Re: Re: EIS to intercom wire (John Cooley)
    21. 06:18 PM - Re: tank troubles (Charlie England)
    22. 06:32 PM - Re: help! (Larry Cottrell)
    23. 06:39 PM - Re: tank troubles (John Hauck)
    24. 06:48 PM - Re: EIS to intercom wire (JetPilot)
    25. 06:57 PM - Homebuilt Help DVD's (icrashrc)
    26. 07:00 PM - Re: Re: EIS to intercom wire (John Hauck)
    27. 07:03 PM - Re: help! (Charlie England)
    28. 07:05 PM - Re: Mark III Wing Fabric Repair... Damn Cats... (R. Hankins)
    29. 07:09 PM - Re: tank troubles (Charlie England)
    30. 07:26 PM - Re: tank troubles (John Hauck)
    31. 07:32 PM - Re: Homebuilt Help DVD's (David Key)
    32. 07:48 PM - Re: Mark III Wing Fabric Repair... Damn Cats... (jerb)
    33. 09:36 PM - Re: Re: EIS to intercom wire (HShack@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:14:45 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Steel landing gear? Which models?
    >From experience he knew just how much to bend it >> Hi Richard, experience is a great thing. I toured a car maker some years ago and they were straightening drive shafts exactly like that. These were new shafts, about 5 ft long which connect the engine to the differential gear box on the back axle. They apparently come from the forging process with quite a curve on them. Easily discernable to the naked eye, maybe 1/2 inch or more out of true. The guys were putting them in a jig which held the ends down, turn the bend to face downwards, press a pedal and a ram came up from below and pushed the shaft straight. They just jiggled the shaft and pressed the pedal couple of times and that was that, straight on to the assembly. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 03:35:17 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: skate boards
    Now I can move the FireFly with one hand, >. Hi Bob, visit any English gliding club and you will see thats how it is done. Try putting a dozen gliders into a Nissen hut which, in 1940 used to be the Sergeants mess and into which the glider will only fit sideways. Add in the fact that it is Sunday night and most of the club have sloped off home leaving about 3 members to put the planes away. That is when you invent cunning devices like yours. When you look at the finished stack with all the gliders wings overlapping you wonder how on earth you ever managed it. The couple of times I have flown gliders in the States a glider would be waiting on the flight line for me and I just left it there after flying and someone else put it away. In the usual UK Club there is no paid help and you are expected to either arrive early enough to get the machines out of the hangar /shed or stay late enough to put them away. As one of the 3 that were usually left at the end of the day I can tell you that there is enough ingenuity in the average gliding club to pay off the National Debt . I saw one gliding club which had designed and built the biggest `up and over` hangar door I have ever seen. High enough to push a Tiger Moth under and wide enough to accomodate most gliders wingspan the whole thing lifted in the air driven by a chain the motive power for which was a hand turned bicycle pedal sprocket. A child could do it. Cheers Pat do not archive


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    Time: 04:53:41 AM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: help!
    Re: Push to tallk switch. I have never been able to get my ptt switch to work with my JPH520 radio. Recently, I was told that my radio may not have the circuit for a ptt switch. Guess that I should have bought an Icom.


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    Time: 06:34:20 AM PST US
    Subject: EIS to intercom wire
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    Anyone know what the red/blue wire from the EIS to Intercom system is for? Even more what it does? -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91275#91275


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    Time: 06:42:09 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    It tells your passenger what your engine is doing. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Kolb-List: EIS to intercom wire > > Anyone know what the red/blue wire from the EIS to Intercom system is for? > Even more what it does? > > -------- > Paul Petty > Kolbra #12 > Ms Dixie > painting and reassembly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91275#91275 > > >


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    Time: 06:53:17 AM PST US
    From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." <gtalexander@att.net>
    Subject: tank troubles
    Larry: Rick's suggestion of switching caps is the most likely to find the source of your dilemma. The way you describe the current setup and the results, improper venting is most likely. Odds are that them 'daubers (or some eight-legged critters) did their do before the single digits set in. As for pickups in the bottom of the tanks..... If the grommets are installed correctly there shouldn't be a problem. Before I got religion and switched to a Kolb, I had 8 years in a couple of Quicksilvers. The Quicksilver tanks hang over the root tube and have a cross over loop to equalize the fuel in the areas below the root tube. Also has the pickup on the bottom. As part of the spring ritual, would change out the grommets (two on the cross over and one on the pickup), all fuel lines and filter. (My original FS also had the feed from the bottom. Same spring routine.) Probably overkill, but it made me feel better. I found that a little oil on/in the grommets first, put them in the tank, then push the elbow straight in... as opposed to twisting and turning and yanking and cranking and pulling and cussing. Use a pair of locking pliers to hold the elbow because it does take some force to get it into the grommet. Never had a leak (of fuel that is) in 10 years of this routine. Rick's method of vent/overflow is also a good ideee. As Beauford would say..... Worth what you paid for it. George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: tank troubles --> <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> I guess that I read it too fast and didn't understand all I read. I would rather have two separate tanks and the attendant bull that goes with them, rather than tap into the bottom of them. I guess I am just not that trusting when it comes to leaking gas. If they were metal, I wouldn't have a problem. Plastic is another thing for me. Larry,Oregon do not archive


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    Time: 07:01:38 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Speaking of fabric
    How does one avoid a scalloped edge of fabric when folding over and gluing the final edge of a fabric seam. I start with a clean cut straight edge of fabric but going up and over any ribs that sit on top of a tube causes it to look crooked. Their seems to be no way to cut a crooked line that looks straight until its glued. Any tricks? Vic 912 Extra Maine


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    Time: 08:29:47 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: help!
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net> Charlie was nice enough to let me call him and this is what we found. The micro jack has three separate contacts. The outer one is the red, (push to talk) the next is the black wire (audio) the last is the green ( ground) The white wire is not used on the jack. Therefore the red and the green are connected to the momentary switch in the grip. When the button is pushed the circuit would be completed. The white and black are connected together and that allows the microphone to work. If this is not clear, let me know I will try again. I joined the areoElectric list to see if they could help me. this is the reply that I got shown below. Thanks Larry, Oregon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the AreoElectric list. Correct. ALL PTT buttons are normally open, momentary operation. > When I cut into the wire I find a red, green, white and black wire. The > red and green show continuity when the button is pushed. Then use these two wires. > The white and black also are a closed circuit. I really don't want to > screw things up, can anybody enlighten me as to the best way to hook this > up. Didn't your stick grip come with a schematic? If not, contact the suppler and suggest that his product is NOT ready for prime-time until it's shipped with lucid, tell-all instructions.


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    Time: 09:06:57 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: antennas
    This is from my last email sent to Larry Cottrell, I hope someone can use the information. Boyd I have a cut sheet for antenna's and it says 23.5. The part I am not sure of is whether the center conductor at 23.5 and the braid pointed the other direction at 23.5 is the correct way to go. As it is I mounted my old antenna up on the top of the wind screen close to the wings, and it really doesn't do that badly. I am going to make one of your antennas and use it on the portable that I leave with Karen. First however I will try it on the plane and if it performs better than the outside antenna, I will make another for the wife. Thanks Larry ................ Larry 23.5 would be correct and that is what I have seen in some aircraft magazines. But it depends on the type of wire you are using. It seems that every piece of coax has its very own velocity factor which is stated as .7 .75 .78 .8 etc. the velocity factor is a percent of the speed of light. If the velocity factor is .9 my antenna would have to be longer than an antenna of my design with a coax of velocity factor of .7 that Is why you have to measure the swr or standing wave ratio in order to properly tune it. In receive it wont make much difference,,,, but in transmit the worse case is it will over temp the final transistors and burn them out. To picture what a swr is, tie a rope to a door knob.( visualize the rope as if it were the antenna) Stand across the room and pull the rope almost tight and then with a flick of the wrist in an up and down motion watch the pulse in the rope travel up the rope hit the far end then come back to your hand. The amount of energy your hand has to absorb would be absorbed by the final transistors. Now I suppose if you could get the rope the exact length, when you gave your end a flip, the pulse would travel up the rope and just as it hit the other end all of the energy from the flip was used up and nothing come back then the antenna would be in resonance to the frequency. Now in a rope a longer rope would use up all the energy, but in a wire antenna longer or shorter will cause the back lash. A longer coax between the radio and antenna would just use up energy and be of no use. For a handheld radio one of the easiest ways to extend the range with a rubber duck antenna or with an telescopic antenna, { if you use a telescopic antenna you need to figure the proper distance to telescope it to} you could go to Ham Radio Outlet hro.com and find what is called a tiger tail. Basically it is an eyelet with a piece of wire attached to it that goes under the bnc connector of the antenna, it works the same as the braid hanging out. Very nice and portable, but if you want an antenna you can hang in the living room, my diple would work well. Another antenna you could use at the house would be a J Pole antenna Hope this diagram works. .................o.............................. \ ........o../ The left side is the top and the right the bottom and can be mounted to a steel pole or direct buried into the ground. The coax hooks into the antenna where indicated by the o. it is best if made of or inch copper pipe. The length of the 2 upper pipes and the exact positioning of the o is how you tune the antenna. The bottom length can be any distance. This is a great antenna for outdoors because it is short circuited to ground in case of lighting strikes. Boyd


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    Time: 11:04:47 AM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: skate boards
    Pat, Hangar next to me has two Rv-?s with wings overlapped. One has a small ramp under one gear leg, which tilts the wing enough to clear the other guy's. Another has two V-Ezs stacked in a kinda "compromising" position. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 12:57:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: wings
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << your mentioning that rivits take one man. If you are going to do it by yourself, by all means, use rivits. If you have the luxury of a companion to talk to while you poke the needle back and forth from one side of the wing to the other ... rib stitching becomes more appealing. Richard Pike >> I was able to stitch both wings solo. It's easiest done with the wing hanging from the ceiling, trialing edge up. In looking back at my builder's log, the first wing took about 4.5 hours to rib stitch; the second one, a little more than half that time. And it was STILL appealing for me! As Richard also pointed out, I used quarter-inch wide reinforcing tape (at Jim & Dondi's recommendation) over the 5/16" rib tubes. This did an excellent job of minimizing any pucker at each stitch, while still providing adequate surface area for the stitch to grip. You can sleep peacefully now, John H. ;-) Dennis Kirby, with orangutan arms, in Cedar Crest, NM do not archive


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    Time: 03:06:47 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: PTT info
    Last msg should have gone to Larry C., but my thumbs got in the way. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 03:33:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    FYI, Talked to Sany at grand rapids today and yes the red/blue wire is a audio warning input if anything is out of limit. It goes beep beep beep. Rather anoying to most pilots as she mentioned and most folks dont hook it up however if you acklowdege the signal the beeping stops but the red light stays on untill things are within limits. Sandy and the gang at grand rapids are great folks and have a great sence of humor. I asked Sandy why not have the sexy girl say "Your to low" or "You have a oil temp out of range" hehe she replied "That girl quit!" -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91431#91431


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    Time: 03:38:37 PM PST US
    From: Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: antennas
    Several years ago there was a great hue and cry about trimming/ adjusting VHF antennas and their associated transmission lines/coax for exact SWRs. This so-called "problem" is greatly overrated at the transmitter power levels found in our powerful 1-5 watters. And the same obtains with the associated receiver. SWRs of 2:1, even 3:1 won't "blow" the final amp in the xmtr; nor will there be much perceived loss of rcvr sensitivity. Antenna placement and altitude are much larger factors. Of course it's been almost 58 years since BSEE...could be rong. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 04:30:05 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: help!
    Well, it certrainly isn't definitive, but it truly focuses on who caused the problem. It certainly wasn't you, Larry. Bob is right, that info should have been forthcoming from the manufacturer. If we as consumers don't push back we will always be left to our own devices to fix what the manufacturer has left undone. It's one that should be proceeded with. You paid their asking price and they have let you down. If no one holds their feet to the fire they will never improve. Rick On 1/29/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net> > > > Charlie was nice enough to let me call him and this is what we found. > > The micro jack has three separate contacts. The outer one is the red, > (push > to talk) the next is the black wire (audio) the last is the green ( > ground) > The white wire is not used on the jack. Therefore the red and the green > are > connected to the momentary switch in the grip. When the button is pushed > the > circuit would be completed. The white and black are connected together and > that allows the microphone to work. If this is not clear, let me know I > will > try again. > > I joined the areoElectric list to see if they could help me. this is the > reply that I got shown below. > Thanks > Larry, Oregon > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From the AreoElectric list. > > Correct. ALL PTT buttons are normally open, momentary > operation. > > > When I cut into the wire I find a red, green, white and black wire. The > > red and green show continuity when the button is pushed. > > Then use these two wires. > > > The white and black also are a closed circuit. I really don't want to > > screw things up, can anybody enlighten me as to the best way to hook > this > > up. > > Didn't your stick grip come with a schematic? If not, > contact the suppler and suggest that his product is > NOT ready for prime-time until it's shipped with > lucid, tell-all instructions. > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 04:51:45 PM PST US
    From: "David Kulp" <undoctor@rcn.com>
    Subject: Kolb Road
    Hey Kolbfolks. My cuz just got back from Tucson, AZ. She visited the Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Center, AMARC, and told me there's a Kolb Rd. there. I Googled it and check out what I found http://www.amarcexperience.com/AMARCVGuide.asp Has anyone (or maybe almost everyone) visited this place, and does anyone know; is Kolb Road a coincidence?? Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA Do not archive


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    Time: 04:58:47 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    audio warning input if anything is out of limit. | -------- | Paul Petty Paul: When do you guys with EIS, audio and video warnings, flashing red lights, etc., find time to fly the plane? john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 05:13:09 PM PST US
    From: APilot@webtv.net
    Subject: Re: antennas
    I gave up trying to transmit. I could hear okay with my exterior antenna, but most could not hear me very good.. Recently, I purchase an inside antenna from a place in Canada. I think that it is called a magic air. Anyway, it is suppose to be pre-tuned and is mounted inside the fiberglass nose cone. If anyone has tried one let me know how it worked. I will be installing mine and testing it next week. Fingers are crossed. Vic in Sacramento


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    Time: 05:30:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: antennas
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    Vic As I recall.. poor range even with a good antenna, can sometimes indicate a blown final...ie: output stage transistor.. What one is hearing at short range is some small amount of radiation from the driver transistor.. FWIW Herb do not archive. On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:12:55 -0800 APilot@webtv.net writes: > > I gave up trying to transmit. I could hear okay with my exterior > antenna, but most could not hear me very good.. Recently, I > purchase an > inside antenna from a place in Canada. I think that it is called a > magic air. Anyway, it is suppose to be pre-tuned and is mounted > inside > the fiberglass nose cone. If anyone has tried one let me know how > it > worked. I will be installing mine and testing it next week. > Fingers > are crossed. Vic in Sacramento > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:32:36 PM PST US
    From: "John Cooley" <jcooley380@hughes.net>
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    Hi John/Gang, John, with the EIS it really is nice to just fly and enjoy the scenery. You don't have to scan a dash full of steam gauges to know every thing is ok. If some parameter is about to be violated the flashing red light will catch your attention. You can set it up to warn you as early as you want or as late as you want. Of course you know this and your just needling Paul but some other folks might not know that. Do not archive Have a Great Day, John Cooley in the deep freeze south (24 degrees this morning) -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: EIS to intercom wire audio warning input if anything is out of limit. | -------- | Paul Petty Paul: When do you guys with EIS, audio and video warnings, flashing red lights, etc., find time to fly the plane? john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE -- 1:12 PM -- 1:12 PM


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    Time: 06:18:21 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: tank troubles
    John Hauck wrote: > > I really don't want to, still trying to follow the KISS principal. > >I am at a loss. >Larry, Oregon > >Hi Larry: > >I never had an airplane with this "screwy" system of pulling fuel from >two tanks through one line. > >If I did have two tanks, you can be assured I would be pulling from >the bottom of both into a T. I can assure you you will then be >getting equal draw from each tank. > >There is a neoprene grommet and elbow fitting available from Kolb or >most any UL parts house for tapping a plastic or metal tank. I have >used them for many years and many hours with great success. > >If you still want to pull fuel from the top of the tank, then tap the >bottoms, tie them together so gravity can do its job for you. > >Why switch back and forth between tanks with your fuel level sender >when you are working with a flow system that doesn't work logically? > >My thoughts for what they are worth. 2 cents. > >john h >mkIII > I don't know didly about Kolbs, but most high wing Cessnas with 2 wing tanks & the selector on 'both' feed unevenly. Others have mentioned venting issues; that's usually the cause of uneven feeds. It's very difficult to set up the tank vents where both tanks pressurize evenly. Add in inadvertent slip angles in flight, slight differences in fuel line length, routing, etc & It would be more surprising if they *did* feed evenly. :-) One technique in the homebuilt community (the Bede BD-4 is a good example) to work around the problem is to feed both tanks into the top of a small low mounted 'sump' tank & feed the engine from the bottom of that tank. Bear in mind that no homebuilt I'm aware of uses a syphon type feed out of the primary tanks; all draw from the bottom of the tanks. FWIW, Charlie


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    Time: 06:32:22 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: help!
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: help! Well, it certrainly isn't definitive, but it truly focuses on who caused the problem. It certainly wasn't you, Larry. Bob is right, that info should have been forthcoming from the manufacturer. If we as consumers don't push back we will always be left to our own devices to fix what the manufacturer has left undone. It's one that should be proceeded with. You paid their asking price and they have let you down. If no one holds their feet to the fire they will never improve. Rick I guess you could look at it like that, but the fact remains that it damn sure didn't help me worth didly! By the way I did it like Charlie told me to and it works just fine. Larry, Oregon do not archive


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    Time: 06:39:36 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: tank troubles
    fuel | line length, routing, etc & It would be more surprising if they *did* | feed evenly. :-) | | Charlie Charlie: Pull the fuel off the bottom of both tanks, siamese the vents to one line, and I bet the fuel will drain evenly from both tanks. john h mkIII


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    Time: 06:48:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    With EIS there is no scanning guages, it really lets you give more of your attention to the scenery outside. I never have to look to see if my oil pressure, temperature, etc is ok. If anything gets out of range, the flashing red light along with the flashing number that is out of range gets my attention immidately. With my luck, the oil pressure would start to fall exactly when I am not looking at the guage... With an EIS, it gets my attention as soon as it happens. Talk about taking a load off, not to have to monitor engine instruments, and spending more time looking outside is what flying a Kolb is all about :) Michael A. Bigelow -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91479#91479


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    Time: 06:57:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Homebuilt Help DVD's
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    Homebuilthelp.com has a few interesting DVD's. I was wondering if anyone on the list has watched them. If so, are they worth the cost? I'm looking at; Rotax 912 Installation Tips & Techniques, Weight & Balance101 for Homebuilts, Electrical Wiring101 for your Homebuilt Aircraft, and How to License your Homebuilt Aircraft. All look like they could be helpful. They could also be a waste of time and money. Any thoughts, used copies for sale, etc.? -------- Scott do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91483#91483


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    Time: 07:00:54 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    Talk about taking a load off, not to have to monitor engine instruments, and spending more time looking outside is what flying a Kolb is all about :) | | Michael A. Bigelow Mike: A good pilot can scan his gauges in a split second. Learned how to do that in Primary Training, and can still do it. Don't think I have lost any time lately enjoying the beautiful places I get to fly my old bird. I have flown with the EIS enough to know what I am comfortable with. Besides, what would I do with my old collections of gauges if I upgraded to a blinking light and a beeper in my headset? john h mkIII Old fashioned, but it still gets away from home occassionally.


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    Time: 07:03:36 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: help!
    Larry Cottrell wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Girard <mailto:jindoguy@gmail.com> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: help! > > Well, it certrainly isn't definitive, but it truly focuses on who > caused the problem. It certainly wasn't you, Larry. Bob is right, > that info should have been forthcoming from the manufacturer. If > we as consumers don't push back we will always be left to our own > devices to fix what the manufacturer has left undone. It's one > that should be proceeded with. You paid their asking price and > they have let you down. If no one holds their feet to the fire > they will never improve. > > Rick > > I guess you could look at it like that, but the fact remains that > it damn sure didn't help me worth didly! > > By the way I did it like Charlie told me to and it works just fine. > > Larry, Oregon > do not archive > In Bob's defense (I monitor that list too) he misunderstood your question. He thought the problem was with the stick grip instead of the PTT adaptor. He has a full time day job & answers dozens of requests for help with electrical problems for the personal satisfaction of improving the craft of designing/implementing a/c electrical systems. He would have arrived at the same solution, once he understood the problem. Charlie


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    Time: 07:05:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mark III Wing Fabric Repair... Damn Cats...
    From: "R. Hankins" <rphanks@grantspass.com>
    Try the .17 HMR. It is a wonderful cat tonic. It is very effective and makes much less mess than a 12GA. or a .223REM. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91487#91487


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    Time: 07:09:40 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: tank troubles
    John Hauck wrote: > > >fuel >| line length, routing, etc & It would be more surprising if they >*did* >| feed evenly. :-) >| Charlie > > >Charlie: > >Pull the fuel off the bottom of both tanks, siamese the vents to one >line, and I bet the fuel will drain evenly from both tanks. > >john h >mkIII > It might, but it might not. Some of the previously mentioned Cessnas have the tank vents siamesed together. They still don't feed evenly. Charlie


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    Time: 07:26:19 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: tank troubles
    together. They still don't feed evenly. | | Charlie Charlie: Impossible to compare Cessnas and Kolbs. ;-) john h mk III DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:32:49 PM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Homebuilt Help DVD's
    I watched the setting up the Rotax 912. I thought it good and worth the money, everything was covered in the Rotax manuals but I needed to hear it two or three times. >From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Homebuilt Help DVD's >Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:56:58 -0800 > > >Homebuilthelp.com has a few interesting DVD's. I was wondering if anyone on >the list has watched them. If so, are they worth the cost? >I'm looking at; >Rotax 912 Installation Tips & Techniques, >Weight & Balance101 for Homebuilts, >Electrical Wiring101 for your Homebuilt Aircraft, >and How to License your Homebuilt Aircraft. >All look like they could be helpful. They could also be a waste of time and >money. Any thoughts, used copies for sale, etc.? > >-------- >Scott > > >do not archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91483#91483 > >


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    Time: 07:48:25 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Mark III Wing Fabric Repair... Damn Cats...
    First things first, cat soup is real good, taste just like rabbit. Seeing what you have there I don't think you got that big of problem other than just the pain of doing the repair. The biggest issue is what kind of color top coat (paint) do you have on the fabric? If it Aero-thane or enamel it may be more work, if it's Poly-tone, it shouldn't be as bad. It gets down to if you have to remove the top coat or if you can glue the repair fabric patch to it, if poly-tone, it would be easier. As John Hauck indicated, talk to the Millers about what they suggest to prepare the surface for the patch and what to use to adhere the patch to the original fabric, poly-tac cement or poly-brush based upon the type of top coat. Really it's not that bad. Once you get into it, you'll have it done in no time. jerb At 04:45 PM 1/28/2007, you wrote: > >I have had an incident with the son-in-laws cats... please don't get >me started on that..... > >See the attached photo. one of them jumped up to get on the wing >that was hanging in the garage and sliced the fabric. > >Question: can these slices be repaired or should i recover the entire wing??? > >Thanks a bunch... > >-------- >The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine...And why >shouldn't it be?- >--It is the same the angels breathe. > Mark Twain, > Roughing it' 1886 > >Mike > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91133#91133 > > >Attachments: > >http://forums.matronics.com//files/cimg3809_380.jpg > >


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    Time: 09:36:22 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: EIS to intercom wire
    In a message dated 1/29/2007 7:59:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes: When do you guys with EIS, audio and video warnings, flashing red lights, etc., find time to fly the plane? john h \ My red light, after about 600 hrs., has neve blinked except for a second when ai turn it on. Howard Shackleford FS II SC




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