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1. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: painting (John Cooley)
2. 05:30 AM - Re: Re: Most economical cruse speed (N27SB@aol.com)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Most economical cruse speed (John Hauck)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: Most economical cruse speed (Ralph)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: painting (J.D. Stewart)
6. 07:08 AM - Monument Valley in winter (Craig Nelson)
7. 07:11 AM - Re: such a fine day for flying (David Lehman)
8. 07:45 AM - Re: such a fine day for flying (Larry Cottrell)
9. 09:02 AM - Re: Monument Valley in winter (knowvne@aol.com)
10. 11:56 AM - Firefly project on ebay (Bob Pongracz)
11. 03:01 PM - Re: Most economical cruse speed (planecrazzzy)
12. 08:25 PM - E-LSA deadline (Richard Girard)
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Paul,
Below is a description of the process and the gentleman's thoughts on the
covering systems. I'm not trying to steer anyone one way or the other, but
if I have to spend a few more bucks to save a lot of time in the covering
process, I think that is good trade off. The Slingshot mentioned was covered
with the poly fiber process and was a Oshkosh grand champion. I'm sure he
won many other awards with it too so he can make a good comparison between
the two systems.
I also am attaching a couple of pictures that he sent me of the Decathlon
completed with the Airtech system.
Another thing that is a problem here in the south is the humidity.
Supposedly the Airtech system is fairly immune to blushing etc. so you don't
have to add special agents to the paint to reduce blushing.
Take care,
John Cooley
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[I've covered numerous planes since the SlingShot and have tried different
processes. The one I've chosen for now is the Airtech System. You cover the
structure same as stits but you don't brush on the poly brush. You simply
spray on two coats of their primer, let set overnight and sand, spray one
more coat, let set for a couple of days then spray your color. Much less
steps than stits with as good or better results. Only downside is it's a
little more expensive but you trade time for money. My Decathlon came out
beautiful, I flew it to Evergreen as soon as I finished it to get it judged
but there was no class to enter it in. Contemporary was the newest class and
it only went to 1967 year model. Mine was a 1975 model. All the judges were
overwhelmed so they gave me an award anyway, It was called a "Chick Torbett
Workmanship Award" which was supposed to come out of the classes judged. I
think they ruffled a few feathers but all agreed to give me the award. I was
pretty proud after all that work. I seen John H. down there but Mrs P'fer
was down in the tail. He seem pretty impressed with my bird. Go to
Airtechcoatings.com and read about it. We've done several Stearman's with it
and had good results.]
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: painting
John C,
Do other systems you have looked at have a way around the silver?
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
painting and reassembly
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
Has anyone considered that as you reduce the rpms on a 447 below 5800 that
you are dropping off the tuned rpm for the exhaust pipe and you may be
increasing wear and adding carbon to the rings?
steve
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
| Has anyone considered that as you reduce the rpms on a 447 below
5800 that
| you are dropping off the tuned rpm for the exhaust pipe and you may
be
| increasing wear and adding carbon to the rings?
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| steve
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Morning Steve:
I have, but the majority of the Kolb List wants to make JD tractors
out of them. Something about wearing them out sooner if you turn more
rpm, even though the engine was designed to cruise at 5,800 rpm and
above. It is a continuous duty engine that does much better at or
above 5,800 rpm. Without going back to look it up, the engine is
capable of 6,500 rpm max continuous.
Lots of folks feel the same way about the 912 series engines that are
5,500 rpm max continuous. In my case, if I don't turn at least 5,000
rpm, I can not keep the engine oil and CHT up to minimum temps.
Wonder if we could put my 1936 JD D engine on a Firestar. It gets its
max hp at 900 rpm.
john h
mkIII
25F and sunny
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
John and others, I am flying my Firestar with a 5100 RPM cruise every
time I fly. I have over 450 hours on the 447. I'm a believer that
less RPM's equates to less wear. So far, so good.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar/447
20 years flying it
-- "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
| Has anyone considered that as you reduce the rpms on a 447 below
5800 that
| you are dropping off the tuned rpm for the exhaust pipe and you may
be
| increasing wear and adding carbon to the rings?
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| steve
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Morning Steve:
I have, but the majority of the Kolb List wants to make JD tractors
out of them. Something about wearing them out sooner if you turn
more
rpm, even though the engine was designed to cruise at 5,800 rpm and
above. It is a continuous duty engine that does much better at or
above 5,800 rpm. Without going back to look it up, the engine is
capable of 6,500 rpm max continuous.
Lots of folks feel the same way about the 912 series engines that are
5,500 rpm max continuous. In my case, if I don't turn at least 5,000
rpm, I can not keep the engine oil and CHT up to minimum temps.
Wonder if we could put my 1936 JD D engine on a Firestar. It gets
its
max hp at 900 rpm.
john h
mkIII
25F and sunny
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I'm extremely pleased to read about a Chick Torbett award. Chick
was meticulous building his Challenger, and always generous with his time
and advice. I was sorry to lose such a friend to cancer in '04. I still
keep his page up on the FlyChallenger site:
http://challenger.inebraska.com/chick.htm
J.D. Stewart
UltraFun AirSports, LLC
http://www.ultrafunairsports.com
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All the judges were overwhelmed so they gave me an
> award anyway, It was called a "Chick Torbett Workmanship
> Award" which was supposed to come out of the classes judged.
> I think they ruffled a few feathers but all agreed to give me
> the award. I was pretty proud after all that work. I seen
> John H. down there but Mrs P'fer was down in the tail. He
> seem pretty impressed with my bird. Go to Airtechcoatings.com
> and read about it. We've done several Stearman's with it and
> had good results.]
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| Subject: | Monument Valley in winter |
<<ansel's shot.jpg>> <<snow agave.jpg>> <<west mitten.jpg>>
Hi all
I've heard a lot about how the weather is slowing some of you in the
deep freeze of our great country. Also there has been talk about MV,
here are a few shots to get you thinking about May
Uncle craig
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| Subject: | Re: such a fine day for flying |
Larry...
Did you see any floating Tomahawks?...
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** Report created 2/6/2007 Record
11 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9670T Make/Model: PA38 Description: PA-38 Tomahawk
Date: 02/04/2007 Time: 2140
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: OWYHEE CORNERS State: OR Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FAILED TO CLIMB ON TAKEOFF CRASHED INTO OWYHEE RESERVOIR, OWYHEE
CORNERS, OR
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
WEATHER: BOI WX 2140Z 36004 10SM CLR 12/MO2 A3042
OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER
Departed: Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: Flt Plan: Wx Briefing:
Last Radio Cont:
Last Clearance:
FAA FSDO: BOISE, ID (NM11) Entry date: 02/05/2007
DVD
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| Subject: | Re: such a fine day for flying |
No, I didn't even see an Indian bullet, but then I came in from the
south and departed the same way. There have been a lot of mishaps at
that strip over the years. One fellow that I knew from Klamath Falls
managed to ground loop his Maule there, but duct taped it back together
and flew it home. I somehow don't see a Tomahawk as a back country
flyer, especially with two people. I did a Google search for Owyhee
corners and came up with a spot 10 to 15 miles away from the reservoir.
There is an airstrip at that location, but the strip in the middle of
the lake is named "Owyhee State".
Larry
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From: David Lehman
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: such a fine day for flying
Larry...
Did you see any floating Tomahawks?...
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 9670T Make/Model: PA38 Description: PA-38
Tomahawk
Date: 02/04/2007 Time: 2140
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Substantial
LOCATION
City: OWYHEE CORNERS State: OR Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT FAILED TO CLIMB ON TAKEOFF CRASHED INTO OWYHEE RESERVOIR,
OWYHEE
CORNERS, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley in winter |
Nice Captures... I especially like the middle one...
The color could be bumped a bit but a nice shots just the same....
Sorry its the Professional in me speaking 8-)
But it sure makes me want to strap on some Skis
and fly WEST.... 8-)
Mark Vaughn
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From: Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com
To: Kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 10:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley in winter
<<ansel's shot.jpg>> <<snow agave.jpg>> <<west mitten.jpg>>
Hi all
I've heard a lot about how the weather is slowing some of you in the
deep freeze of our great country. Also there has been talk about MV,
here are a few shots to get you thinking about May
Uncle craig
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| Subject: | Firefly project on ebay |
FYI - My Firefly project is for sale on Ebay (see http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=413290571&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=140082591487&lk=URL ) Pics & a description of parts avaialble can be seen there. Included is a low time 447, EIS and 3-blade Ivo prop. There is very little left to finish the plane. The reason for selling is to put the money into a conventional plane that my wife & I can both enjoy. The plane is in SE PA. If anyone has any questions, you can email me direct at pongoflyer@myway.com Bob PongraczTopton, PA(do not archive)
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
Hi Jim,
Just like a Detroit Diesel, I keep'r scream'n
Mostly around 5900 - 6000
I don't really get good GPH .... But sometimes when I see the Fuel flow
at 6 plus GPH , I back it down....Some of that is during climb
But even at cruise I see 5 gph sometimes
If I try for 3.5 gph like they say it's suppose to get , My RPM's would be way
too low....
With a slight headwind I can almost go 100 miles on 8 gals , That's a 2 gal reserve
( doesn't mean 1 gal in each tank - uneven )
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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jim wrote:
> So Mike, what are the numbers?
>
> >
> > I have a Fuel Flow meter / Fuel gauge , I switch over to see the fuel
> > flow alot....I'm suprised how high it can get....When I'm cruising I check
> > to see if I'm pushing it too much....Backing off the throttle "just a
> > little" can really save the fuel
> >
> >
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One more registration to go. Wouldn't you know it would be the Mk 3's that
will be last, the only one I'm truly hot for.
In the latest to arrive, FAA included a note to remind me of the 1-31-2008
deadline. If you have your packet into your local FSDO, MIDO or your E-LSA
DAR by Nov. 30, FAA WILL GUARANTEE you will get your airworthiness
certificate before the deadline. Obviously you have to do your part of the
program correctly so there are no hang ups. After 11-30 there's no
guarantee. Tick tick tick.
Rick
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"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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