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1. 05:06 AM - Re: Most economical cruse speed (Thom Riddle)
2. 06:37 AM - Re: Most economical cruse speed (John Hauck)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller (olendorf)
4. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Most economical cruse speed (Terry)
5. 07:00 AM - Re: Re: Fighting user fees (pat ladd)
6. 10:09 AM - Fighting user fees (boyd)
7. 12:56 PM - Firestar for Sale (Jason Omelchuck)
8. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: float plans (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
9. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: float plans (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
10. 01:59 PM - Re: Monument Valley in winter (hillstw)
11. 02:11 PM - Last registration in (Richard Girard)
12. 02:18 PM - Prop for Sale (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
13. 02:30 PM - Re: float plans (planecrazzzy)
14. 02:36 PM - Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller (planecrazzzy)
15. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: float plans (John Hauck)
16. 03:13 PM - Firefly Boom (jim)
17. 03:21 PM - Re: Prop for Sale (John Hauck)
18. 03:42 PM - Re: Monument Valley in winter (John Hauck)
19. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller (Richard Pike)
20. 06:00 PM - Monument Valley Flyby (John Hauck)
21. 06:32 PM - Re: Monument Valley Flyby (Bob Dalton)
22. 07:50 PM - Re: Firefly Boom (Denny Rowe)
23. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: float plans"John Hauck" (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
24. 09:00 PM - Re: Re: float plans"John Hauck" (John Hauck)
25. 09:16 PM - Seeking feedback on Oregon-Texas-MV route (TheWanderingWench)
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
When I was flying an early Firestar with 377 engine, I typically
cruised at about 5200 rpm when I was enjoying the scenery, which
yielded about 45-50 mph, which is the speed I flew at much of the time.
When trying to set somewhere, I'd push it up to 5600-5800 rpm for a
55-60 mph cruise. I kept complete records on total fuel consumption for
the time I had this airplane and the average fuel consumption over that
time was 2.8 gph and had no engine problems whatsoever during that
time.
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
Morning Gang:
I have discovered there are two modes of flight to determine fuel
consumption.
1-Flying around the patch.
2-Cross country.
Flying around the patch burns about 50 to 75% of the fuel that you
burn cross country.
If you want a true fuel burn, it is best, in my opinion, to fly some
cross country. Most important info is time of flight and maintaining
"your" cruise rpm, except for take off and landings. Probably should
fly, at least, one hour legs to verify fuel burn. Fuel tank should be
topped off prior to the flight and topped off again when you complete
your flight. You will be surprised how much fuel you burn, if you
have never done a fuel check before.
Remember, flying and playing around the patch will give you much
better fuel consumption than flying a true cross country flight.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller |
I really like the Powerfin prop I have. Very light and doesn't flex much. I would
buy another one in a second.
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Scott Olendorf
Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop
Schenectady, NY
http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com
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| Subject: | Re: Most economical cruse speed |
jimhefner wrote:
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>Terry, if you are only burning 2- 2.25 gph, you are doing better than I ever
did. I averaged around 2.75 with the 66" IVO on the FF. Sounds like you have
a good thing going, so don't change anything. How long is your Tennessee prop?
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>Jim Hefner
>Kolbless in Tucson :(
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Jim,
My prop is 66" also. Even at 2.75 gph, you were doing better than
most. Rpm has a lot to do with gph on a draggy aircraft like the
FireFly. My fuel consumption goes up dramatically when I push the rpm
and airspeed to get someplace. If I were to put a full enclosure on it
and streamline struts I think it wouldn't be as big a factor. Jack Hart
is the master at that!
Terry _ FireFly #95
Time to get back into a Kolb!!!!!! :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Fighting user fees |
nearly four-fold increase in the fuel tax paid by general aviation operators
(avgas and autogas)",>>
Hi
This is happening in the UK too. There is aproposal to up the tax paid on
avgas. Commercial aviation also says that it is unfair to saddle them with
paying for the total cost of providing flight services so itlooks as thought
the rest of GA is going to have to shoulder part of it.
Quite how you make the weekend pilot who uses Flight information a couple of
times a season pay for it I don`t know but the authorities will work it
out....
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Fighting user fees |
I am just saying, know what you are objecting to before you you sign up. The
NBAA is not the group that helps to protect us from ourselves.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
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It is true that I don't know all the details that are on the table.....
BUT the local news did an article stating that they wanted general aviation
to help bail out the major airline carriers that are in financial trouble...
that may or may not be the whole truth,,,, who knows what the media had for
an agenda that evening.
I am not sure how to word this,,, so here goes with reckless abandon,,, I
remember seeing an article that for every gallon of fuel used in aviation,,,
only two tablespoons of it were used in general aviation... would raising
fuel taxes help that much? I don't know, does any one have any
information that would shed light on the matter...
Another point of view.... if they want me to help bail out the
financially strapped airlines now,,,,,, do you suppose that the airlines
will "return the favor" when they get back on their feet and are turning
profits again? Again I don't know the answers.... maybe they are doing
so now.... I know that the faa has poured money for upgrades into the
airport I use, does the money come from the air carriers, taxes on ticket
sales, taxes on fuel sales at the local airport now,,, or the general public
/ tax payer of the nation....
All I know is for what services I receive I pay only a small part. And do
not feel overly burdened.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Firestar for Sale |
Hello all,
I was at our local UFO (ultralight flyers) meeting the other night and the
gentleman across the table from me mentioned that he is selling his dads
Firestar. He was not very fourth coming in information so all I know is
that it is a Firestar with a 447 located near Portland Oregon. If you want
and additional information please e-mail him at runyanp@comcast.net.
Jason
MKIIIC BMW R100
Portland Oregon
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I have six different planes I an building now two not to far from the
finishing touches
Ellery
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Elery I sent the float plans out 8 days ago any sign of them yet? could you
send me some money mal
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley in winter |
Hey Kolbers:
Am planning to go to MV in April. Which airport do you guys stay at there,
and what is fuel availability? Need either 100LL or, preferably, MOGAS.
What lodging is available, and could you give me a phone number for it?
Thanks much.
Jimmy
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From: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:09 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley in winter
<<ansel's shot.jpg>> <<snow agave.jpg>> <<west mitten.jpg>>
Hi all
I've heard a lot about how the weather is slowing some of you in the
deep freeze of our great country. Also there has been talk about MV,
here are a few shots to get you thinking about May
Uncle craig
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| Subject: | Last registration in |
At last the registration for N455ZD has come back. Okay, at last is a bit of
a stretch since it took 22 days from mailbox to mailbox. The FAA seems to be
making good on their pladge of three week service. Now to get inspections
scheduled.
Rick
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Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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Kolb Friends -
I have a Powerfin Prop for sale - thought I'd offer it to folks on this
List first. Here are the details:
3-blade, "F" model Powerfin
65-inch diameter
Left-hand rotation
25 hours total time on prop
Like new
$275.
Contact me if interested ...
Dennis Kirby
Cedar Crest, NM
(505) 846-7127
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Hi Mlcom,
"Jaz" isn't a Woman......But she "IS" a Girl
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
[quote="Malcolmbru(at)aol.com"]PLane crazy you are OK I am glad to here Jaz is
a women.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller |
I bought my Prop ( 66" IVO ) from L.E.A.F.
I have a 503 w/ 2.58 B box , 3 blade 66" IVO....
I might try it with 2 blades next season....test it.
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Elery I sent the float plans out 8 days ago any sign of them yet?
could you
| send me some money mal
Malcolm B:
You probably guessed this already. Personal business should be
conducted back copy. The several hundred other Kolb Listers that
monitor this List that don't care if you get your money from Ellery or
not.
I know it is difficult, but try to stick to topics that would be of
interest to those of us that are building and flying Kolb aircraft.
We don't have any "hall monitors" or "list police", so us members have
to do the policing.
Thanks,
john h
mkIII/Just another member.
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I need a new boom for my Firefly. I'd like to buy one from TNK but at $285, shipping
alone from KY to Idaho/Washington is more than the tube. If I can't find
elsewhere or locally, I'll have to pay the shipping.
Kolb spec is 12' long 5" OD .049"Wall 6061-T6 Aluminum. If anybody has an extra
one (new or used) I would appreciate it, preferably in the Pacific NW. I
believe a Firestar uses the same boom, only it's 13' long.
If anybody needs large parts from TNK in the NW maybe we could partner on shipping.
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Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: Prop for Sale |
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| Dennis Kirby
Dennis:
How come you're selling that old Power Fin Prop?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley in winter |
at there,
| and what is fuel availability? Need either 100LL or, preferably,
MOGAS.
| What lodging is available, and could you give me a phone number for
it?
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| Thanks much.
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| Jimmy
Hi Jimmy:
We plan on being at MV a 17-20 May. That's Thursday through Sunday.
Most of us get there on Thur and depart on Sun.
MOGAS is available at the station across the street from Gouldings Air
Strip.
The air strip is Gouldings, 4000 feet gravel and some pavement on the
south end. Land to the south and take off to the north. Seems to be
an 800 feet rock wall at the south end.
Here is the url for Gouldings.
http://www.gouldings.com/english/index.htm
If you have any other questions, please ask. It may help others that
are going to attend the flyin.
Shucks, I can't wait, but better get my mkIII going first.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller |
I'm thinking you'll like it much better as a 2 blade.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Firestar - recommended propeller
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> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Flyby |
Hi Folks:
I love this video clip. It is the mkIII making a pass at Monument
Valley, turning 5,400 rpm WOT and wearing that 912ULS with a smile on
my face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9n2_Rtn6g
Can not remember if this is Will's or Bob's clip.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Monument Valley Flyby |
John,
That be me, by the time I heard you coming in, turned myself around and the
camera on you were outta there. Sounded as good as it looked :).
Bob D.
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Monument Valley Flyby
Hi Folks:
I love this video clip. It is the mkIII making a pass at Monument
Valley, turning 5,400 rpm WOT and wearing that 912ULS with a smile on
my face:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G9n2_Rtn6g
Can not remember if this is Will's or Bob's clip.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly Boom |
I think I saw some Firestar spars for sale on Barnstormers, they will be the
same tubing you need if they are long enough.
Denny Rowe
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim" <jim@tru-cast.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly Boom
>
> I need a new boom for my Firefly. I'd like to buy one from TNK but at
> $285, shipping alone from KY to Idaho/Washington is more than the tube.
> If I can't find elsewhere or locally, I'll have to pay the shipping.
>
> Kolb spec is 12' long 5" OD .049"Wall 6061-T6 Aluminum. If anybody has
> an extra one (new or used) I would appreciate it, preferably in the
> Pacific NW. I believe a Firestar uses the same boom, only it's 13' long.
>
> If anybody needs large parts from TNK in the NW maybe we could partner on
> shipping.
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> Jim
> N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: float plans"John Hauck" |
In a message dated 2/8/2007 6:13:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
"John Hauck"
I disagree I think most people on the list would like to think that they
should not be taken advantage of by other members. There are several
members sending me messages about floats back copy and Ideal with them the best
I
can. I am really happy about how many want float plans and I really want
to help develop a set that any one would be proud of. mal (989)233-5377
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| Subject: | Re: float plans"John Hauck" |
| I disagree I think most people on the list would like to think that
they
| should not be taken advantage of by other members.
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Malcomb:
I think that was the point I was trying to get across.
Any particular reason you can't collect individual bills back copy,
since they do not apply to the rest of us?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Seeking feedback on Oregon-Texas-MV route |
Hi Kolbers,
Larry & Karen Cottrell and I are planning a mammoth
(for us) flight from Oregon to San Antonio, Texas,
returning via MV for the Kolb disorganized fly-in.
I've had lots of good advice re: the route, but
there's one portion that I'd like suggestions about.
Basically, I'm considering flying south from Larry's
(Rome, OR) to hit I-10 and then follow I-10 east to
San Antonio. I've got lots of advice about airstrips
along I-10, getting around Tuscon and El Paso, etc. I
also have good advice from Kolbers who have flown from
the El Paso area to MV, and plan to follow their
suggestions. I've flown back to Oregon twice from MV,
so have that "down pat."
My question is about getting from Winnemucca to I-10 -
maybe around Blythe, CA. Here's what I'm thinking so
far:
I'll be flying from my home base in northwestern
Oregon to Larry's place near Rome, OR. We'll fly south
following Hwy. 95 to Winnemucca, NV then east to
Battle Mountain and then south via Hwy. 305 to Austin
(A36), NV and pick up Hwy 376 south to Toponah (TPH),
NV.
We'd pick up Hwy. 95 at Goldfield, NV and go south to
Beatty (BTY) NV, Any suggestions on getting from
Beatty down to Blythe? Anyone flown this route?
Or - if you think there's a better way instead of
heading south from Winnemucca - speak up!
As you can tell, I'm trying to follow roads as much as
possible, both for safety and since Karen will be
following us in their truck. (Of course, depending on
wind we may be following her!) I'm not sure if I'll
have my endorsement to fly into Class B & C airspace
by then - so am planning to fly around that.
We'd prefer NOT to go to Texas via MV - we want to
make a loop and come back via MV.
So...I'd appreciate any suggestions about this portion
of our route.
Thanks in advance,
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
Maxair Drifter
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