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1. 05:01 AM - Re: Gas Tank Study (John Bickham)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Gas Tank Study (kolbdriver@mlsharp.com)
3. 07:56 AM - No child left behind (Richard Girard)
4. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Gas Tank Study (Jim Dunn)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Gas Tank Study (John Hauck)
6. 09:19 AM - Re: Txp's (pat ladd)
7. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: Transponder for separation (pat ladd)
8. 10:15 AM - Re: Gas Tank Study (Rex Rodebush)
9. 11:27 AM - Re: Txp's (Russ Kinne)
10. 11:59 AM - Re: Txp's, survival gear (n27sb@aol.com)
11. 01:34 PM - Signal mirrors (Larry Cottrell)
12. 01:48 PM - Ultralight Callsign (jim)
13. 02:10 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Richard Pike)
14. 02:16 PM - Re: Txp's, survival gear (Bob Noyer)
15. 02:43 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (planecrazzzy)
16. 03:32 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (jim)
17. 04:17 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (John Williamson)
18. 04:32 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign ()
19. 04:55 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Chuck Stonex)
20. 05:04 PM - Xtra on Barnstormers (David Key)
21. 05:37 PM - Range & Endurance (Terry)
22. 05:59 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Bob Noyer)
23. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Gas Tank Study (John Hauck)
24. 06:08 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (John Hauck)
25. 07:05 PM - Re: Txp's, survival gear (JetPilot)
26. 07:43 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Chuck Stonex)
27. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Txp's, survival gear (John Hauck)
28. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (TheWanderingWench)
29. 07:59 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (DAquaNut@aol.com)
30. 08:00 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Dana Hague)
31. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Txp's, survival gear (Richard Pike)
32. 08:14 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Larry Cottrell)
33. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: Txp's, survival gear (John Hauck)
34. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Robert Laird)
35. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Dana Hague)
36. 08:31 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
37. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Robert Laird)
38. 08:52 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Jim Dunn)
39. 09:13 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Jim Dunn)
40. 09:17 PM - Re: Ultralight Callsign (Jim Dunn)
41. 09:26 PM - Re: Re: Ultralight Callsign (Jim Dunn)
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
Just some pitures from my recent efforts. It is basically the Brothers Hauck design.
A little thicker (.063"). Originally calculated 20.5 gallon capacity.
Ended up 21.5 gallons when I did the flow test and level gauge markings check.
Still haven't flight tested it yet!
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John Bickham
Mark III-C
"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
John,
NICE!
How many Workhrs do you have in fabrication?
Thanks,
Mike in MO
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From: John Bickham <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 7:00:38 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Gas Tank Study
Just some pitures from my recent efforts. It is basically the Brothers Hauck design.
A little thicker (.063"). Originally calculated 20.5 gallon capacity.
Ended up 21.5 gallons when I did the flow test and level gauge markings check.
Still haven't flight tested it yet!
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John Bickham
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"Using my Repairman Certificate"
St. Francisville, LA
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| Subject: | No child left behind |
Looks like it's working
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
Are you going for a Kolb record of non-stop coast to coast?
Wow, that's a lot of fuel!
>
> Just some pitures from my recent efforts. It is basically the Brothers
> Hauck design. A little thicker (.063"). Originally calculated 20.5
> gallon capacity. Ended up 21.5 gallons when I did the flow test and level
> gauge markings check.
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> Still haven't flight tested it yet!
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> Thanks too much,
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> John Bickham
> Mark III-C
> "Using my Repairman Certificate"
> St. Francisville, LA
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
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| Wow, that's a lot of fuel!
jim dunn
Hi Jim:
20.5 gals is a lot of fuel when compared with 5 or 10 gal fuel
systems. My tank is 25.0 gal.
Wish we could fly coast to coast non-stop on that amount of fuel, but
that is not the case, not at 4 or 5 gph and about 24 hours flight time
from California to my strip in Alabama.
Fuel is safety, primarily. Fuel is convenience. When we run low on
fuel, other problems will usually rear their heads, i.e., wind,
weather, darkness, unavailability of fuel at the next intended stop,
and on and on, until Murphy runs out of ideas.
With a lot of fuel on board I have the luxury of looking at my GPS,
ETE (estimated time enroute), looking over at the fuel sight gauge,
and making an instant decision on weather I have fuel to make it with
an adequate reserve, or I need to find some place to land a little
nearer. Slowing down to conserve fuel to make it to the next
available fuel is a "last" option for me. Many other factors are
involved in flying cross country. A lot of places I fly I have to
have a lot of fuel in order to make it to the next because there is no
place to land for fuel in between.
I never did understand the FAA's intention when writing a 5 gal limit
into Part 103. To me, more fuel is safety.
john h
mkIII
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But txp's do let you fly safer & I'll get one, and an encoding altimeter
too, if I can. And a BRS ->>
Hi Russ,
...and an extra engine and a rubber dinghy and an ELT and a torch as big as
a searchlight and a full immersion suit and a spare GPS and a spare radio
and a spare Txponder in case the other one goes crook and some signal flags
and a Verey pistol ( with spare cartridges).....
Pity I can only carry enough fuel to get to the end of the taxiway...
Cheers
Pat.
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder for separation |
(else why are so many BRS systems sold?). >>
Not in the UK. Hardly anyone has one.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
Here are some pictures of my gas tank mock up and fabrication. the shape allows
it to be installed with just one cage tube cut out. The sloped sides allow
for room to install the fuel pump, gascolator, hot box and battery. It's about
19 1/2 gallons. I added an extra fitting on top so I could pump fuel into it
from an aux. tank in the passenger seat if ever required. I had to fabricate
and weld in a mounting platform for it to sit on.
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Hi Pat, long time no talk
Your comments are well-founded & well-expressed; but I must make a
comment or two. If only to keep our respective literary talents
exercised & sharp!
I bought an ELT long before they were required; flying in remote
areas I felt, and still do, that it could/would save my bacon. (Is
that a Yankee-ism?) I carry wet-suit jackets for all aboard when
flying over cold wide water. (Blue-whale studies, 20-40 mi from
shore, altitude 500-1000', water temp. 3-7C & some at night) Legal
PFD's (Personal Flotation Devices) would keep you afloat but you'd be
dead in 10-15 min. Don't carry a spare GPS but they're only about 1/2
lb -- might be a good idea. I carry a signal mirror (about 3 oz),
flares maybe 1/2 pound, Have carried a 4-man Zodiac but to transport
it, not to use it, so that doesn't count.
In northern Canada you are REQUIRED to carry a 24" axe, sleeping bag,
tent, snare wire, fishing gear and enough food calories for XX days
(not sure current regs) which I figured would be nicely taken care of
by getting 17 cherry pies. You may carry a rifle too, despite
Canada's hugely restrictive firearms laws. Obviously in non-remote
areas these are not required & no one (usually) carries them.
In short, Pat, I carry what I think I'll need to keep me alive,
considering the aircraft & location and duration of flight, weather &
other stuff. If it costs a lot & weighs a lot, well that's the price
of staying alive. Running around the patch you hardly need anything,
but a GPS is good for checking groundspeed. When you go further or
longer you should begin to carry more gear. Just in case!
But not another engine -- the stats for engine-failures in twins
scare me. Txp goes crook? not going to lose any sleep over that.
And I'll buy a BRS before I buy a txp anyway.
Hope your wx is better than it is here and the the MarkIII
refurbishing is going well --
Fair winds,
Russ
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
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From: russ@rkiphoto.com
Sent: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Txp's
In short, Pat, I carry what I think I'll need to keep me alive, considering the
aircraft & location and duration of flight, weather & other stuff. If it costs
a lot & weighs a lot, well that's the price of staying alive. Running around
the patch you hardly need anything
Russ
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Hi Russ, You bring up a good point.
When I was flying over the St. Johns basin I carried a lot of stuff even though
I was only 20 or 30 miles away from populated areas.
The swamp was so mean that you would not want to walk 20 yards and the bugs would
eat you alive overnight.
Now I fly over Winter Haven Fl. and all of the lakes are surrounded by mansions.
I only carry a BRS, inflateable vest and a lime. That way if I drift up on someones
beach after a forced landing or structural failure during Happy Hour
I have something to put in an offered Rum and Tonic.
I think it would be interesting to hear about the safety gear that others carry
in respect to their flight plan.
Steve
FF007 on floats
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From: "Russ Kinne" <russ@rkiphoto.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Txp's
I carry a signal mirror (about 3 oz),
I changed the thread to better "reflect" (pun intended) the subject. The CFI
that I got my SP lic from carried a silver CD that someone had sent him to
use for a signal mirror. Not easy to break, weighs nothing and will do the
job nicely.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Ultralight Callsign |
So far I've successfully avoided any need to contact ATC in an Ultralight. But
after selling my Quicksilver and buying a Kolb I intend to go places and do things
starting this Spring.
When calling tower or Approach in an "N" numbered aircraft you might use a callsign
like "Experimental 3252Y" or "Cessna 1234T", but what about an Ultralight?
"Kolb Ultralight" sounds too short. What should I use for a callsign?
What do YOU use for a callsign? Maybe Richard Pike could shed some light on this
. . .
Thanks,
Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Back when I had my Hummer, and before I got it "N" numbered, at that time
you also had to have a Radio Station License onboard to use a transceiver. I
sent in for an FCC license and just put Hummer Ultralight on the appropriate
line. It came back "24790U" so I always checked in "Hummer Ultralight
90Uniform" and everybody was happy.
Since a station license is no longer required, not sure what the current
protocol is.
Unless someone else on the list can help, looks like time for a "Google"
search to me....
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Ultralight Callsign
>
> So far I've successfully avoided any need to contact ATC in an Ultralight.
> But after selling my Quicksilver and buying a Kolb I intend to go places
> and do things starting this Spring.
>
> When calling tower or Approach in an "N" numbered aircraft you might use a
> callsign like "Experimental 3252Y" or "Cessna 1234T", but what about an
> Ultralight? "Kolb Ultralight" sounds too short. What should I use for a
> callsign?
>
> What do YOU use for a callsign? Maybe Richard Pike could shed some light
> on this . . .
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
> N. Idaho
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> N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
In a former life (GA) I flew abt 90% xc. When over 'rough"
areas...mostly forrest, mountains, desert...I carried a lightweight
homemade survival kit consisting of 2-12oz al. cans of most any
sugared carbonated drink (sugar has calories, it's liquid, carbonated
liquid can be used a a wound-rinse, and cans used for hauling water,
boiling and cooking); few packets of dried coffee, meat bullion,
chewing gum; plastic-wrapped beef jerky
(helps thicken the hot water); couple of large pemican and choc. bars.
Tools: one of those crazy combination tools (for removing cowling,
panels for shelter or fire reflector), vice grips (also good for
holding cooking can over fire), a lg and small fish hook and 20' line
(also used with shelter, clothes line), fold-up al. and mylar blanket
(gnd cover, shelter, pers. cover), signalling mirror, two road
flares, a flashlight with GOOD batts, roll of Get 'Em Home tape
(Duct), waterproof can of big kitchen matches and Bic lighter; and a
couple of wire coat hangers, useful for can handles, hanging stuff to
dry, holding food over fire.
First aid: Can of bandaids..reg size, large, compress, 3' cloth tape
for tourniquet; tube antibiotic cream; few aspirin
Packaging: all the stuff I wanted to keep dry/fresh I sealed with
ziplock bags. Maybe even better would be one of those kitchen gadgets
that can seal with plastic wrap. The ziplocks can also hold water,
when you are down. I had an old al. box abt 18" long, 6"X6" with
fairly tight lid that all the stuff fitted in. It was watertight (?)
and could be used for cooking. Yes it was way too big, but available,
and on end it made something to sit on, by the fire!
This kit was only for a short wait of a few days, and minor injury.
Other people will question my selection, and I'm glad to say I never
used it, except to eat the jerky before the "rot date." But in this
day of cell phones I suppose I'd take mine PLUS the wind-up LED
flashlight that can recharge the phone. It's quite bright and will
keep you talking as long as yer cranking fingers hold out.
Let the flames/thread begin!
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Hi,
When I fly into Airports , or Fields ...I use "Experimental 381PM "
Then after first call.... I use ... One ,Poppa, Mike
They usually call me just "Poppa Mike"
( it's nice to have yer name in the phonetic alphabet )
.
.
Gotta Fly...
Mike in MN FSII / N381PM
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Do your kids call you Papa Mike also?
My Kolb is an Ultralight, not an experiemental and doesn't have an N-number so
I can't use that type of call sign.
planecrazzzy wrote:
> Hi,
> When I fly into Airports , or Fields ...I use "Experimental 381PM "
>
> Then after first call.... I use ... One ,Poppa, Mike
>
> They usually call me just "Poppa Mike"
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
No guessing about Callsigns, the AIM is very specific on what you use for a Callsign
in an aircraft:
4-2-4. Aircraft Call Signs
a. Precautions in the Use of Call Signs.
1. Improper use of call signs can result in pilots executing a clearance intended
for another aircraft. Call signs should never be abbreviated on an initial
contact or at any time when other aircraft call signs have similar numbers/sounds
or identical letters/number; e.g., Cessna 6132F, Cessna 1622F, Baron 123F,
Cherokee 7732F, etc.
EXAMPLE-
Assume that a controller issues an approach clearance to an aircraft at the bottom
of a holding stack and an aircraft with a similar call sign (at the top of
the stack) acknowledges the clearance with the last two or three numbers of the
aircraft's call sign. If the aircraft at the bottom of the stack did not hear
the clearance and intervene, flight safety would be affected, and there would
be no reason for either the controller or pilot to suspect that anything is
wrong. This kind of "human factors" error can strike swiftly and is extremely
difficult to rectify.
2. Pilots, therefore, must be certain that aircraft identification is complete
and clearly identified before taking action on an ATC clearance. ATC specialists
will not abbreviate call signs of air carrier or other civil aircraft having
authorized call signs. ATC specialists may initiate abbreviated call signs of
other aircraft by using the prefix and the last three digits/letters of the
aircraft identification after communications are established. The pilot may use
the abbreviated call sign in subsequent contacts with the ATC specialist. When
aware of similar/identical call signs, ATC specialists will take action to
minimize errors by emphasizing certain numbers/letters, by repeating the entire
call sign, by repeating the prefix, or by asking pilots to use a different call
sign temporarily. Pilots should use the phrase "VERIFY CLEARANCE FOR (your
complete call sign)" if doubt exists concerning proper identity.
3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft type, model or manufacturer's
name, followed by the digits/letters of the registration number. When the aircraft
manufacturer's name or model is stated, the prefix "N" is dropped; e.g.,
Aztec Two Four Six Four Alpha.
EXAMPLE-
1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit "Experimental" after initial contact).
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So by the book, I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" on initial contact when talking to
a tower facility and I drop the "Experimental" on subsequent calls to the same
frequency.
When I call Ground Control first, I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" on the initial
call and "Kolb 49KK" on subsequent calls to Ground.
When I switch frequency to the Tower, I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" on the initial
call and "Kolb 49KK" on subsequent calls to Tower.
Why have I only included "Experimental" in my initial calls to Tower Facilities
and not said anything about Approach Control, Center or Flight Service Stations?
Well that's because of the following FAR exerpt:
91.319 Aircraft having experimental certificates: Operating limitations.
(d) Each person operating an aircraft that has an experimental certificate shall
(1) Advise each person carried of the experimental nature of the aircraft;
(2) Operate under VFR, day only, unless otherwise specifically authorized by the
Administrator; and
(3) Notify the control tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft when operating
the aircraft into or out of airports with operating control towers.
You can see that we are only required to Notifly the Tower of the experimental
nature of the aircraft and no other facility.
At all other times, my callsign is "Kolb 49KK".
As for the Ultralight Kolb's among us, the above does not apply. But lacking any
other guidance for the FAA, using the same format of "aircraft type, model or
manufacturer's name" and include Ultralight so that ATC knows you don't have
an "N" number can't be to far off base.
It is a very stringent requirement that the FAA has put on Ultralight vehicles
that want to operate in certain airspace:
103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class C, or
Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of Class
E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has prior authorization
from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
The required authorization is required to be obtained while the ultralight is still
on the ground and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific instructions
to the ultralight vehicle operator.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
>>"Kolb Ultralight" sounds too short. What should I use for a callsign?
I don't say this is the 'right' answer, but it is 'an' answer.
Pretty much everyone in the thumb area of Michigan has at least an ASC or
EAA registration number. We use those when calling Flight Service, Pontiac,
Flint, and Selfridge as well as on all unicoms. Seems to work well.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / N722KM
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
You could try ..."heyyou .... idiot in the tower......."
>>"Kolb Ultralight" sounds too short. What should I use for a callsign?
I don't say this is the 'right' answer, but it is 'an' answer.
Pretty much everyone in the thumb area of Michigan has at least an ASC or
EAA registration number. We use those when calling Flight Service, Pontiac,
Flint, and Selfridge as well as on all unicoms. Seems to work well.
-Ken Fackler
Kolb Mark II / N722KM
Rochester MI
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| Subject: | Range & Endurance |
Hey Jack,
Thanks for putting the engineering data to what I knew was happening
with my FireFly. Nice to know that I'm not completely off the mark with
what I was trying to say before about fuel consumption!
Terry - Firefly #95
P's. Are you still using your IVO prop with the tips cut like I did on
the Tennessee wood prop? Have you had any problems with them, I would
be surprised if you did.
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Re: "idiots in control tower." Some ex-ATC Kolbers wouldn't like that!
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
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| Subject: | Re: Gas Tank Study |
Rex:
My fuel tank is very much the same shape as yours. We designed mine
to fit in the upper rear half of the fuselage in order to open up the
bottom rear for a cargo compartment. Looks like you could do the same
thing and not kill available cargo space.
With 25.0 gal I never consider using the left seat for an aux tank.
That is my flight desk. ;-)
A couple things I could never get over to the Kolb folks is a nice
generous cargo compartment and a big fuel tank. Maybe if we keep
reminding them that these are quite necessary items for those of us
that like cross country flying, we can get them working on a couple
upgrades.
Glad to see folks upgrading fuel capacity during the building phase of
their projects, and not after they are complete. Most folks finish
the airplane, fly it a few hours, and immediately want more fuel.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
that!
| regards,
| Bob N.
Hi Bob:
Doesn't sound like anyone who has every talked to a tower before.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
I intend to do a lot of cross country in my Kolb also, and I have wondered what
I should carry... I remember John Hauck mentioning a rifle, which I think is
a great idea if you end up in the mountains out west, all sorts of things can
eat you out there !
What else do you suggest John ?
Mike Bigelow
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
well then maybe we could say something like "Rodger Dodger, 10-4 good
buddie..... Kolb jocket over and out!" or "Kolb to tower, Kolb to tower.
come in Tower. Over" It worked on science fiction movies in the 60's and
that was on TV too!
ever notice how some people forget to enjoy life and laugh once in a while.
Rule 62; "Don't take yourself so damed seriously"
LEBTF
Chuck
| Re: "idiots in control tower." Some ex-ATC Kolbers wouldn't like
that!
| regards,
| Bob N.
Hi Bob:
Doesn't sound like anyone who has every talked to a tower before.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
|
| Mike Bigelow
Hi Mike:
I usually carry a little 9mm with me if I am going to flying in CONUS.
If I plan to fly in Canada I replace the 9mm with a Marlin Papoose .22
cal auto matic rifle that has a removeable barrel and a nice cordura
carrying case that slips right under my seat for easy access. The .22
is primarily for survival food, not protection. I don't need
protection from squirrel or coons unless they are rabid. Anything any
bigger and I better have my running shoes on.
For CONUS flights, in addition to the 9mm automatic, I'll have all my
camping gear, a couple weeks MRE's, 3 liters water in one liter
Nalgene bottles. I keep one up front with me so I can drink while I
am flying.
Always have a way to tie down the airplane. I always have the
titanium auggers. If going out west or north across the border I'll
also have three tie down stakes made from steel rebar with a chain
link welded near the top for the rope. Good stout nylon rope, at
least 3/8". A hatchet to drive the stakes. If you gotta drive
stakes, usually there are plenty rocks to use for a hammer.
An old Rotax engine tool kit, the kind that came with the new engines,
plus some additional tools jammed in there. Safety wire, lots of
nylon tie wraps, and a roll of duct tape.
I take what it is going to take to support me living out of the
airplane for the duration of the trip.
Granola bars and mixed nuts are great. Although we have more than our
share of mixed nuts in the Kolb group get togethers. hehehe
I usually bring my Alabama credit card, a 6' length of 7/8" ID vinyl
tubing for refueling from somebody's fuel can. My fuel filler access
is on top of the center section.
Figuring out what to take on cross country flights depends on where
you plan to fly. If you are going north, Canada, and Alaska, you can
get all the recommended gear from the Alaska Flight Supplement and
from the Canada Flight Supplement. These two publications are
invaluable for flying through Canada to and in Alaska.
Of course, current sectionals, unless you have a current Jeppesen Data
Base in your handy dandy Garmin 196 GPS, plus current obstruction
clearance software. I usually update these just prior to departure
from home. John W told me I was good to go if either sectionals or
jeppesen data base was current.
Recommend you all listen to John W. He has been flying
professionally, US Army and in civilian life, his entire life. He is
a wealth of "correct" info and knows where to dig for it and how to
interpret it correctly. Everytime he and I fly together I learn
something from him. I appreciate his help, although he can get on
your case pretty hard at times. Usually, I will have instant radio
problems or feign deafness from VN and old age. ;-)
If you have any specific questions, I will be glad to help. I have a
file somewhere in my computer that has a list of gear I carried with
me to Alaska, 2004. If I can find it, I will post it to the List.
Next week is get started repairing and mounting the new 912ULS on Miss
P'fer. She will be down 6 months the 22d of Feb. I am starting to
get a little antsy to fly her.
Take care,
john h
mkII
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
John -
Thanks for the clarity of your response. I've been
thinking about a problem that many of us "formerly fat
ultralights but now E-LSAs" might have.
As I understand the AIM, my call sign should be:
MaxAir Drifter one-niner-six-four Charlie.
HOWEVER - almost no one outside the ultralight arena
knows what a MaxAir Drifter is, so it doesn't tell
them anything about my speed in the pattern, which is
a key factor in separation at non-towered airports. I
land at 35 -38 mph...
So should those of us flying E-LSAs be using
"Experiemental Light Sport" in our call sign (which is
then dropped after the first announcement.) The AIM
doesn't seem to address this.
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
--- John Williamson <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net> wrote:
> <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
>
> No guessing about Callsigns, the AIM is very
> specific on what you use for a Callsign in an
> aircraft:
> 3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft
> type, model or manufacturer's name, followed by the
> digits/letters of the registration number. When the
> aircraft manufacturer's name or model is stated, the
> prefix "N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four
> Alpha.
>
> EXAMPLE-
> 1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
>
> 2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit
> "Experimental" after initial contact).
> _______
>
>
> So by the book, I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" on
> initial contact when talking to a tower facility and
> I drop the "Experimental" on subsequent calls to the
> same frequency.
>
> When I call Ground Control first, I am "Kolb 49KK
> Experimental" on the initial call and "Kolb 49KK" on
> subsequent calls to Ground.
>
> When I switch frequency to the Tower, I am "Kolb
> 49KK Experimental" on the initial call and "Kolb
> 49KK" on subsequent calls to Tower.
>
> Why have I only included "Experimental" in my
> initial calls to Tower Facilities and not said
> anything about Approach Control, Center or Flight
> Service Stations? Well that's because of the
> following FAR exerpt:
>
> 91.319 Aircraft having experimental
> certificates: Operating limitations.
> (d) Each person operating an aircraft that has an
> experimental certificate shall
> (1) Advise each person carried of the experimental
> nature of the aircraft;
> (2) Operate under VFR, day only, unless otherwise
> specifically authorized by the Administrator; and
> (3) Notify the control tower of the experimental
> nature of the aircraft when operating the aircraft
> into or out of airports with operating control
> towers.
>
> You can see that we are only required to Notifly the
> Tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft and
> no other facility.
>
> At all other times, my callsign is "Kolb 49KK".
>
> As for the Ultralight Kolb's among us, the above
> does not apply. But lacking any other guidance for
> the FAA, using the same format of "aircraft type,
> model or manufacturer's name" and include Ultralight
> so that ATC knows you don't have an "N" number can't
> be to far off base.
>
> It is a very stringent requirement that the FAA has
> put on Ultralight vehicles that want to operate in
> certain airspace:
> 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
> No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within
> Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or
> within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of
> Class E airspace designated for an airport unless
> that person has prior authorization from the ATC
> facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
>
> The required authorization is required to be
> obtained while the ultralight is still on the ground
> and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific
> instructions to the ultralight vehicle operator.
>
> --------
> John Williamson
> Arlington, TX
>
> Kolbra, 912ULS
> http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p-114#95114
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>
> Web Forums!
>
>
>
>
>
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"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
In a message dated 2/14/2007 9:44:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,
cstonex@msn.com writes:
well then maybe we could say something like "Rodger Dodger, 10-4 good
buddie..... Kolb jocket over and out!" or "Kolb to tower, Kolb to tower.
come in Tower. Over" It worked on science fiction movies in the 60's and
that was on TV too!
ever notice how some people forget to enjoy life and laugh once in a while.
Rule 62; "Don't take yourself so damed seriously"
Chuck,
Flying and Dying are serious !
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
At 07:17 PM 2/14/2007, John Williamson wrote:
>
>It is a very stringent requirement that the FAA has put on Ultralight
>vehicles that want to operate in certain airspace:
> 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
>No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
>C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface
>area of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has
>prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that
>airspace.
>
>The required authorization is required to be obtained while the ultralight
>is still on the ground and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific
>instructions to the ultralight vehicle operator.
I've never heard that. As I've always understood it, "prior authorization"
can be obtained while airborne, as long as you contact ATC before entering
their airspace. Do you have a cite for the ground contact requirement?
Of course, if you don't have a radio you have to call them from the ground
first (a few weeks ago we flew PPG's with no radio inside (near the edge,
but inside) Class D airspace. We told them where we would be flying, and
how high (under 200' that day) and they had no problem with it.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
Hey John, if you can find an excuse to get anywhere near NE Tennessee, you
can borrow mine for as long as you want.
And our scenery is better than where you live. <grin>
Except you'll have to sit in the left seat.
That's the side the throttle is on.
But you ain't all that much older than me, so you can adapt...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Txp's, survival gear
<snip>
> Next week is get started repairing and mounting the new 912ULS on Miss
> P'fer. She will be down 6 months the 22d of Feb. I am starting to
> get a little antsy to fly her.
>
> Take care,
>
> john h
> mkII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Stonex" <cstonex@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultralight Callsign
> ever notice how some people forget to enjoy life and laugh once in a
> while. Rule 62; "Don't take yourself so damed seriously"
>
> LEBTF
> Chuck
If you are going to cuss, you should at least learn how to spell it!
smiling in Oregon!
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Txp's, survival gear |
Richard:
Thank you for your generous offer for a fix. You know, the last time
I was in a two stroke powered mkIII was yours. Prior to that was Old
Kolb Aircraft's mkIII. That had to be back in the middle 1990's.
Am really looking forward to this year's flying. Sun and Fun is right
around the corner and MV is a turn around from Lakeland.
Hope a lot of Kolb folks get their birds in the air this year.
Looking forward to seeing and meeting a lot of new Kolb people.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Arty --
I can't imagine it would be any different than what the rules say. I
flew an N-numbered experimental for a couple of years that had all the
flight characteristics of an E-LSA and used the method John so
splendidly described. It occurred to me many times as I was
approaching or in the pattern that word "experimental" seems to
automatically make GA pilots think of you as slow, which is not a bad
thing. However, I was passed many times by other experimentals going
faster than the Bonanza's... but I'll admit those are probably the
exceptions that make the rule.
So just stick with what the current AIM says until/unless they update it.
-- Robert
P.S. So many experimentals do not have recognizable manufacturer
names to GA pilots, so my instructor told me just to say "Experimental
Two Two Six Niner Juliet" rather than "Aventura Two Two Six Niner
Juliet Experimental"... and that's what I did in a variety of Class D
and Class C airspaces, and every pattern, and I never, ever had anyone
-- pilot or ATC -- suggest it was wrong or should be different. And
it was/is a WHOLE lot simpler, too. So, that's typically what I use
now, even when I fly an ultralight.
On 2/14/07, TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> John -
>
> Thanks for the clarity of your response. I've been
> thinking about a problem that many of us "formerly fat
> ultralights but now E-LSAs" might have.
>
> As I understand the AIM, my call sign should be:
> MaxAir Drifter one-niner-six-four Charlie.
>
> HOWEVER - almost no one outside the ultralight arena
> knows what a MaxAir Drifter is, so it doesn't tell
> them anything about my speed in the pattern, which is
> a key factor in separation at non-towered airports. I
> land at 35 -38 mph...
>
> So should those of us flying E-LSAs be using
> "Experiemental Light Sport" in our call sign (which is
> then dropped after the first announcement.) The AIM
> doesn't seem to address this.
>
> Arty Trost
> Sandy, Oregon
>
>
> --- John Williamson <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > <kolbrapilot1@comcast.net>
> >
> > No guessing about Callsigns, the AIM is very
> > specific on what you use for a Callsign in an
> > aircraft:
> > 3. Civil aircraft pilots should state the aircraft
> > type, model or manufacturer's name, followed by the
> > digits/letters of the registration number. When the
> > aircraft manufacturer's name or model is stated, the
> > prefix "N" is dropped; e.g., Aztec Two Four Six Four
> > Alpha.
> >
> > EXAMPLE-
> > 1. Bonanza Six Five Five Golf.
> >
> > 2. Breezy Six One Three Romeo Experimental (omit
> > "Experimental" after initial contact).
> > _______
> >
> >
> > So by the book, I am "Kolb 49KK Experimental" on
> > initial contact when talking to a tower facility and
> > I drop the "Experimental" on subsequent calls to the
> > same frequency.
> >
> > When I call Ground Control first, I am "Kolb 49KK
> > Experimental" on the initial call and "Kolb 49KK" on
> > subsequent calls to Ground.
> >
> > When I switch frequency to the Tower, I am "Kolb
> > 49KK Experimental" on the initial call and "Kolb
> > 49KK" on subsequent calls to Tower.
> >
> > Why have I only included "Experimental" in my
> > initial calls to Tower Facilities and not said
> > anything about Approach Control, Center or Flight
> > Service Stations? Well that's because of the
> > following FAR exerpt:
> >
> > 91.319 Aircraft having experimental
> > certificates: Operating limitations.
> > (d) Each person operating an aircraft that has an
> > experimental certificate shall
> > (1) Advise each person carried of the experimental
> > nature of the aircraft;
> > (2) Operate under VFR, day only, unless otherwise
> > specifically authorized by the Administrator; and
> > (3) Notify the control tower of the experimental
> > nature of the aircraft when operating the aircraft
> > into or out of airports with operating control
> > towers.
> >
> > You can see that we are only required to Notifly the
> > Tower of the experimental nature of the aircraft and
> > no other facility.
> >
> > At all other times, my callsign is "Kolb 49KK".
> >
> > As for the Ultralight Kolb's among us, the above
> > does not apply. But lacking any other guidance for
> > the FAA, using the same format of "aircraft type,
> > model or manufacturer's name" and include Ultralight
> > so that ATC knows you don't have an "N" number can't
> > be to far off base.
> >
> > It is a very stringent requirement that the FAA has
> > put on Ultralight vehicles that want to operate in
> > certain airspace:
> > 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
> > No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within
> > Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or
> > within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of
> > Class E airspace designated for an airport unless
> > that person has prior authorization from the ATC
> > facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
> >
> > The required authorization is required to be
> > obtained while the ultralight is still on the ground
> > and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific
> > instructions to the ultralight vehicle operator.
> >
> > --------
> > John Williamson
> > Arlington, TX
> >
> > Kolbra, 912ULS
> > http://home.comcast.net/~kolbrapilot1
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> >
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p-114#95114
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> >
> > Web Forums!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
At 10:51 PM 2/14/2007, TheWanderingWench wrote:
>
>As I understand the AIM, my call sign should be:
>MaxAir Drifter one-niner-six-four Charlie.
>
>HOWEVER - almost no one outside the ultralight arena
>knows what a MaxAir Drifter is...
Generally you'd say "Maxair" or "Drifter" but not both... but most of the
experimental guys I know would just identify as "Experimental
one-niner-six-four-Charlie". If the tower needs to know more they'll ask.
I can't remember where, but I seem to recall something about ultralights
being suggested to use the word "ultralight", a number (I think it was the
pilot's birth year but I could well be mistaken) and initials...
"Ultralight five niner Delta Hotel".
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Get it registered with the EAA as I have mine now even though its FAT I feel
I needed something to announce my Approach /Departure and any other movements
I had to do around any airports Just seemed to make things safer in my mind
But I am going to be getting N numbered this spring as I have been taking
Ground school lately and I will be getting legal after 16 years of flying I
guess my free flying time is about to end
Hey then mabe I can build me a 4 place Kolb with a 12 inch tail boom tube,
Aluminum wings,O235 Might have to call it a John Hauck Special for the long
cross countrys Wududa You Guys think? ...... LOL....... I just might be serious,
ask my friends
Original Firestar E008EB
Ellery
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Dana --
I agree, I don't think he will find a citation requiring it to be
while on the ground... it can be done in the air. And this leads to
a funny story....
Years ago, I wanted to fly into an airport that was
Class-E-to-the-surface, so, being the proper UL pilot, I called ATC
for prior authorization. The ATC guy first asked if I had a radio and
I said yes. He asked why didn't I call in the request while I was in
the air, and I said that I wasn't sure if that was okay. He said sure
it was just fine. Then I said that I usually don't fly high enough to
be able to contact ATC (he laughed). So I again asked him if it would
be okay to fly in there, and he said sure... Then -- always being
careful about government types and their rules and regs -- I said, but
how will the people at the airport know that you gave me prior
authorization? His answer, in a warm, Texas drawl, was, "Well, you
just tell 'em that BUD said it was okay."
So, that's my "in" from now on. If I ever get in trouble, I just tell
them that Bud at Houston Center said it was "okay." hehehehehe
-- Robert
On 2/14/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> At 07:17 PM 2/14/2007, John Williamson wrote:
> >
> >It is a very stringent requirement that the FAA has put on Ultralight
> >vehicles that want to operate in certain airspace:
> > 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
> >No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within Class A, Class B, Class
> >C, or Class D airspace or within the lateral boundaries of the surface
> >area of Class E airspace designated for an airport unless that person has
> >prior authorization from the ATC facility having jurisdiction over that
> >airspace.
> >
> >The required authorization is required to be obtained while the ultralight
> >is still on the ground and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific
> >instructions to the ultralight vehicle operator.
>
> I've never heard that. As I've always understood it, "prior authorization"
> can be obtained while airborne, as long as you contact ATC before entering
> their airspace. Do you have a cite for the ground contact requirement?
>
> Of course, if you don't have a radio you have to call them from the ground
> first (a few weeks ago we flew PPG's with no radio inside (near the edge,
> but inside) Class D airspace. We told them where we would be flying, and
> how high (under 200' that day) and they had no problem with it.
>
> -Dana
> --
> --
> Don't put it off, procrastinate today.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
> <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
>
> John -
>
> As I understand the AIM, my call sign should be:
> MaxAir Drifter one-niner-six-four Charlie.
For Experimental or E-LSA, Kolb would not be the manufacturer unless Elmer
Kolb built and N-numbered your aircraft. Technically the builder is the
person that assembled it. Also, don't include the model in the call
sign. You never hear Cessna 182 147PG as a callsign, it would be Cessna
147PG. I would also not say "Experimental Light Sport". Too many words.
I would stick to Experimental.
That said, an "Experimental Trost 1964C" would tell them even less about
the aircraft so if I were you I would just say "Experimental 1964C".
I think Approach will still want to know if you're experimental. I
believe there is something in clarification of Experimental Operating
Limitations that ATC was the one that could clear you for flying over
densely populated areas.
>> 103.17 Operations in certain airspace.
>> No person may operate an ultralight vehicle within
>> Class A, Class B, Class C, or Class D airspace or
>> within the lateral boundaries of the surface area of
>> Class E airspace designated for an airport unless
>> that person has prior authorization from the ATC
>> facility having jurisdiction over that airspace.
>>
>> The required authorization is required to be
>> obtained while the ultralight is still on the ground
>> and the ATC Facility contacted will give specific
>> instructions to the ultralight vehicle operator.
The above makes no requirement to obtain authorization while still on the
ground. You can get authorization by radio to deviate from the
transponder/mode C requirement for Class B & C. If you don't have a radio
it would have to be from the ground. If you don't have a Xpdr/mode C
installed, it can be 1 hour prior (either by air or on the ground). It
doesn't make sense but if your installed transponder is inop you can ask
on the radio and get immediate clearance without Xpdr or C.
Jim
N. Idaho
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
Do you think GW would mind if I used "Kolb One"?
> I don't say this is the 'right' answer, but it is 'an' answer.
>
> Pretty much everyone in the thumb area of Michigan has at least an ASC or
> EAA registration number. We use those when calling Flight Service,
> Pontiac,
> Flint, and Selfridge as well as on all unicoms. Seems to work well.
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
How much fuel could you stuff into that 12" boom? I figure nearly 100
gallons. Although I think I'd go for at least the O320.
> Get it registered with the EAA as I have mine now even though its FAT I
> feel
> I needed something to announce my Approach /Departure and any other
> movements
> I had to do around any airports Just seemed to make things safer in my
> mind
> But I am going to be getting N numbered this spring as I have been
> taking
> Ground school lately and I will be getting legal after 16 years of flying
> I
> guess my free flying time is about to end
> Hey then mabe I can build me a 4 place Kolb with a 12 inch tail boom tube,
> Aluminum wings,O235 Might have to call it a John Hauck Special for the
> long
> cross countrys Wududa You Guys think? ...... LOL....... I just might be
> serious,
> ask my friends
>
> Original Firestar E008EB
> Ellery
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ultralight Callsign |
BEAUTIFUL PICTURE !!!! Wow, that would make a GREAT postcard.
I thought about using my FF s/n as part of the call sign, but I'd rather
not have anything traceable to me.
This is off the original topic, but . . .
Controlled airspace does not imply a tower. The Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
(KCOE) airport is uncontrolled (i.e., no tower), but has surface Class E
airspace within 5sm (to provide separation protection for the instrument
approaches). Outside 5sm it becomes Class E airspace above 700 AGL, and
eventually uncontrolled airspace. As I read the regs I cannot fly into
that airspace in an ultralight unless I contact Spokane Approach Control.
Talking to local UL pilots, NOBODY contacts RAPCON. If they have a radio
they will do as GA pilots do -- tune in the CATF and make their calls.
I was at the Spokane FSDO (FAA) office a few weeks ago and asked them
about this. The "Operations" guy there said the Surface Class E was not
active unless it was IFR so during VFR the floor of the Class E airspace
over KCOE was 700 AGL. I had never seen this in the regs. I thought
surface class E was always there. I told him that seemed unsafe if the
regs would force me to fly below 700AGL over an airport which would
interfere with traffic. He then backed down saying he didn't know
anything about ultralights.
As you know, VFR GA pilots have no requirement to contact ATC in Class E
airspace. It seems odd that the regs would require UL pilots to do this,
but this is what the regs appear to say.
The bottom line: I don't know for sure and it appears the FAA doesn't
either.
> 14feb07
> Jim,
> My FireFly was regestered with the EAA. They gave
> the plane E005CB as a reg. number. I have it on the
> tube in front of the tailfeathers in 4" numbers. As an
> ultralight I stay away from controled airspace, so I
> don't talk to the tower... But while on the radio to
> broadcast my intentions at uncontroled airports and
> CTAF I use "Ultralight Five Charlee Bravo".
> Attached is a photo shot from a Caravan at 7,000ft.
> It shows east Maui... the Hana airport, Hana bay and
> above the clouds the summit of Haleakala (10,000 ft.)
> Aloha,
> Henry
>
> Henry Voris
> P.O.Box 1194
> Kula,Hawaii 96790
> henry_voris@yahoo.com
> 808-878-2443
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