Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 02/24/07


Total Messages Posted: 41



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:09 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (planecrazzzy)
     2. 04:30 AM - Re: Kolber newbie; crying out from the darkness... :) (planecrazzzy)
     3. 05:12 AM - E-LSA airworthiness certificate question (Thom Riddle)
     4. 05:49 AM - Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sale (planecrazzzy)
     5. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (russ kinne)
     6. 06:26 AM - Re: E-LSA airworthiness certificate question (Richard Girard)
     7. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal (Richard Girard)
     8. 07:07 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (Dana Hague)
     9. 07:52 AM - Re: Who has had an engine out in flight? (jam-n)
    10. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Larry Bourne)
    11. 08:36 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (planecrazzzy)
    12. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Powered Parachute (Dana Hague)
    13. 09:01 AM - Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (planecrazzzy)
    14. 09:54 AM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Arizona Man)
    15. 10:08 AM - Re: Re: crash (pat ladd)
    16. 10:52 AM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Larry Bourne)
    17. 10:55 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (Richard Girard)
    18. 11:29 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (David Key)
    19. 11:48 AM - Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Terry)
    20. 11:56 AM - Re: Powered Parachute (Richard Girard)
    21. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (russ kinne)
    22. 12:26 PM - Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Richard Girard)
    23. 01:43 PM - Re: Powered Parachute (planecrazzzy)
    24. 01:59 PM - Re: Who has had an engine out in flight? (planecrazzzy)
    25. 02:07 PM - Re: Powered Parachute (Dana Hague)
    26. 02:23 PM - Kolb video (Bill Vincent)
    27. 02:30 PM - 182 short field landing Video (Bill Vincent)
    28. 02:40 PM - Re: prop hub extentions (Paul Petty)
    29. 03:01 PM - Re: Powered Parachute (Larry Bourne)
    30. 05:14 PM - Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal (blackbird)
    31. 06:03 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal (Richard Girard)
    32. 07:10 PM - Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (rbhowell)
    33. 07:32 PM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Richard Girard)
    34. 07:33 PM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Herb Gayheart)
    35. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (Larry Bourne)
    36. 08:03 PM - Re: Powered Parachute (John Hauck)
    37. 08:13 PM - Re: Powered Parachute (John Hauck)
    38. 08:22 PM - Re: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... (John Hauck)
    39. 08:58 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal/Repairman's Certificate (John Hauck)
    40. 09:10 PM - Fw: 182 short field landing Video (John Hauck)
    41. 09:12 PM - Fw: 182 short field landing Video (John Hauck)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:09:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Hey Big Lar, I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine.... http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=453 There ...OK , but it got boring after a short time....it was something to fly CHEAP , while I was building my plane.....but weather has to be very good and I don't think you want to drag yer $3,000 chute over just anything, and fly thru canyons ??? I wouldn't trust wind gusts.... Maybe someday when I can't fly planes anymore....I'll get another one. I'm having ALOT more fun in my Kolb ....and I can fly on pretty windy days ..... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97027#97027


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    Time: 04:30:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolber newbie; crying out from the darkness... :)
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Hi, My Firestar II came with the Restraining set-up your talking about... I had to buy another set for the back seat ( ACS&S ) and it was just like my original set..... But the way I have them "loose" to reach the panel....it kind of like the "lap belt" your talking about.....in fact I needed to make something so the shoulder straps wouldn't slide off.... http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=3037 Although the shoulder straps are loose , they would still work in a crash. Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN rbhowell wrote: > > > The seat belt which came with my Firestar II is inadequate. I am looking at Microflight Restraining System's setup for the Firestar II. Price at aircraftspruce is $129.95 with 4 point harness. Is this good? > > > Thanks, > > Boatner -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97029#97029 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/jaz__mutt_muffs_003_130.jpg


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    Time: 05:12:10 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: E-LSA airworthiness certificate question
    I have a few questions for your Kolbers who are flying with an E-LSA airworthiness certificate, not Experimental Amateur Built. 1) Did you have any trouble getting liability insurance for ELSA certificated aircraft? 2) Who did you get insurance with? 3) How much are you paying for liability only? I'm asking because I keep hearing that insurance for ELSAs is problematic but that may be just for hull insurance. I don't see how the liability insurance would/should be any different from Exp A/B. I am currently flying an SLSA Allegro but am thinking (dangerous, I know) of building something and want to know whether liability insurance is a factor if it has an ELSA certificate. Thom in Buffalo


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    Time: 05:49:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sale
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    And I though it was HIGH when I saw somebody trying to get 28K for there Mark III.....Seems to me.....That for the same amount of money a Piper would "Increase" in value .... And when you "buy" ....you can't do much work on it.... without an A&P holding yer hand ( and yer wallet ) Gotta Fly... Mike in MN w/ repairmans Cert ( N381PM ) . . . Paul Petty wrote: > Did you see the mark3 classic listed for 45K? -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97037#97037


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    Time: 06:01:07 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    What's all this talk about Bigfoot? This is the Kolb list -- do not archive On Feb 23, 2007, at 11:54 PM, Larry Bourne wrote: > > :-) Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are > humbled in you'alls company. Sighhhh........... Do not Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Santa Fe, NM > www.gogittum.com > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rbhowell" <bhowell@teamft.com> > To: <kolb-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:30 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... > > >> >> It took me a while but I finally got it Larry.... I really laughed >> out loud. By the way, my feet are size 13 so, yes, I believe I >> also have good "under-standing". >> > >


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    Time: 06:26:26 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: E-LSA airworthiness certificate question
    Thom, I can't answer your insurance question, but I have one for you. What are you thinking of building? The reason I ask is that E-LSA as we know it today does not exist after Jan. 31, 2008 (14 CFR 21.191(i)1). After that E-LSA exists but the aircraft will be kits of existing S-LSA aircraft only, and they MUST be built EXACTLY as the certificated S-LSA. There will be no requirement for percentage of build as there is with EAB (the 51% rule). The manufacturer can leave one set screw out of a knob for the "builder" to install and it will still be an E-LSA. If you intend to build, you must have the airworthiness certificate and operating limitations by the Jan. 31, 2008 cutoff, not just the registratiion. Currently, the FAA is gauranteeing that those who submit their request for AC and op limits by Nov. 30, 2007 will get them. After that it's a crap shoot. Rick On 2/24/07, Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net> wrote: > > > I have a few questions for your Kolbers who are flying with an E-LSA > airworthiness certificate, not Experimental Amateur Built. > > 1) Did you have any trouble getting liability insurance for ELSA > certificated aircraft? > 2) Who did you get insurance with? > 3) How much are you paying for liability only? > > I'm asking because I keep hearing that insurance for ELSAs is > problematic but that may be just for hull insurance. I don't see how > the liability insurance would/should be any different from Exp A/B. I > am currently flying an SLSA Allegro but am thinking (dangerous, I know) > of building something and want to know whether liability insurance is > a factor if it has an ELSA certificate. > > Thom in Buffalo > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 06:40:27 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal
    Mike, Anyone can work on an airplane operating as an experimental amateur built, but only an A & P can sign off the annual (doesn't require an IA as TC aircraft do). Rick On 2/24/07, planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > And I though it was HIGH when I saw somebody trying to get 28K for > there Mark III.....Seems to me.....That for the same amount of money > a Piper would "Increase" in value .... > > And when you "buy" ....you can't do much work on it.... without an A&P > holding yer hand ( and yer wallet ) > > Gotta Fly... > Mike in MN w/ repairmans Cert ( N381PM ) > . > . > . > > > Paul Petty wrote: > > Did you see the mark3 classic listed for 45K? > > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97037#97037 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 07:07:52 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    At 11:50 PM 2/23/2007, Larry Bourne wrote: > >I've given long and serious thought to a PPC, but even tho' I could land >almost anywhere in the event of an engine out, it'd be a helluva hike out >in this country. The thought of buzzing along at 20 mph at low altitude >in this canyon country sure is appealing, tho'.... At 07:09 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: >I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine...OK , but it got boring >after a short time.... Don't confuse PPC and PPG; they are two very different things. A PPC is still a big chunk of iron with a Rotax engine and with wheels, you still can't land it just anywhere... and yeah, sluggish and kinda boring. A backpack PPG, OTOH, handles FAR better (it's like the difference between driving a Mack truck and a tiny sports car) and really can land nearly anywhere with just a few steps... and without damage. Yes, it's wind limited... but now I have a Kolb for windier days. Yippee! But a PPG is still a wonderful toy for low flying on a good day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMV3VF7et0 -Dana do not archive -- -- But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon!


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    Time: 07:52:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who has had an engine out in flight?
    From: jam-n <jghunter@nol.net>
    >Clyde Poser runs an Authorized Rotax repair station near Puyallup WA ------------------ ahh, the days of puyallup... and the Puyallup Drag Strip!! :)))))))))) even the dust in...was bearable. and the action... wow, ahh... the action!! ;) dont archive...


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    Time: 08:30:58 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ?? :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: russ kinne To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:57 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... What's all this talk about Bigfoot? This is the Kolb list -- do not archive


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    Time: 08:36:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    confused...? PPG - no engine - Glider.... I think your talkin about a powered one , right.... Powered Parachute....PPC Gotta Fly d-m-hague(at)comcast.net wrote: > At 11:50 PM 2/23/2007, Larry Bourne wrote: > > > > > > > I've given long and serious thought to a PPC, but even tho' I could land > > almost anywhere in the event of an engine out, it'd be a helluva hike out > > in this country. The thought of buzzing along at 20 mph at low altitude > > in this canyon country sure is appealing, tho'.... > > > > > > At 07:09 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: > > > > > I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine...OK , but it got boring > > after a short time.... > > > > > > Don't confuse PPC and PPG; they are two very different things. A PPC is > still a big chunk of iron with a Rotax engine and with wheels, you still > can't land it just anywhere... and yeah, sluggish and kinda boring. A > backpack PPG, OTOH, handles FAR better (it's like the difference between > driving a Mack truck and a tiny sports car) and really can land nearly > anywhere with just a few steps... and without damage. Yes, it's wind > limited... but now I have a Kolb for windier days. Yippee! > > But a PPG is still a wonderful toy for low flying on a good day: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMV3VF7et0 > > -Dana > > do not archive > > -- > -- > But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon! -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97067#97067


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    Time: 08:58:06 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    At 11:35 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: > >confused...? > > PPG - no engine - Glider.... > > I think your talkin about a powered one , right.... >Powered Parachute....PPC No. PG = Paraglider (unpowered) PPG = Powered Paraglider (paramotor) PPC = Powered Parachute do not archive -Dana -- -- But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon!


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    Time: 09:01:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Hey Big Lar, He just NOT "gellin"... He he he Gotta Fly... Mike in MN / Gellin like an Icecube . . . [quote="biglar"]What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ?? :-) Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com (http://www.gogittum.com) > --- -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97071#97071


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    Time: 09:54:50 AM PST US
    From: Arizona Man <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    Larry they are just talking about shoes! ---- Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: ============ :-) Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are humbled in you'alls company. Sighhhh........... Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "rbhowell" <bhowell@teamft.com> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... > > It took me a while but I finally got it Larry.... I really laughed out > loud. By the way, my feet are size 13 so, yes, I believe I also have good > "under-standing". > >


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    Time: 10:08:15 AM PST US
    From: "pat ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: crash
    Might be this one. >> Thanks George. Looks like it Pat do not archive


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    Time: 10:52:05 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    Well, yah, what did you think we were talking about ?? Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Arizona Man To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... Larry they are just talking about shoes! ---- Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: ============ :-) Sizes 15, 9EEEEEEEEEEE's, 13's..........my size 12's are humbled in you'alls company. Sighhhh........... Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com


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    Time: 10:55:40 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    Dana, After watching a lot of my friends transition from hang gliding to paragliding and the injuries invovled, I adapted the following philosophy, "Airframes, don't leave Earth without them".:-) Rick On 2/24/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: > > > At 11:50 PM 2/23/2007, Larry Bourne wrote: > > > >I've given long and serious thought to a PPC, but even tho' I could land > >almost anywhere in the event of an engine out, it'd be a helluva hike out > >in this country. The thought of buzzing along at 20 mph at low altitude > >in this canyon country sure is appealing, tho'.... > > At 07:09 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: > > >I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine...OK , but it got boring > >after a short time.... > > Don't confuse PPC and PPG; they are two very different things. A PPC is > still a big chunk of iron with a Rotax engine and with wheels, you still > can't land it just anywhere... and yeah, sluggish and kinda boring. A > backpack PPG, OTOH, handles FAR better (it's like the difference between > driving a Mack truck and a tiny sports car) and really can land nearly > anywhere with just a few steps... and without damage. Yes, it's wind > limited... but now I have a Kolb for windier days. Yippee! > > But a PPG is still a wonderful toy for low flying on a good day: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMV3VF7et0 > > -Dana > > do not archive > > -- > -- > But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon! > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 11:29:51 AM PST US
    From: "David Key" <dhkey@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    Richard, I was under the impression that there were a lot of people injuring themselves in hang gliding and that paragliding had less injuries. Is that not the case? do not archive >From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Powered Parachute >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:55:22 -0600 > >Dana, After watching a lot of my friends transition from hang gliding to >paragliding and the injuries invovled, I adapted the following philosophy, >"Airframes, don't leave Earth without them".:-) > >Rick > >On 2/24/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> >>At 11:50 PM 2/23/2007, Larry Bourne wrote: >> > >> >I've given long and serious thought to a PPC, but even tho' I could land >> >almost anywhere in the event of an engine out, it'd be a helluva hike >>out >> >in this country. The thought of buzzing along at 20 mph at low altitude >> >in this canyon country sure is appealing, tho'.... >> >>At 07:09 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: >> >> >I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine...OK , but it got boring >> >after a short time.... >> >>Don't confuse PPC and PPG; they are two very different things. A PPC is >>still a big chunk of iron with a Rotax engine and with wheels, you still >>can't land it just anywhere... and yeah, sluggish and kinda boring. A >>backpack PPG, OTOH, handles FAR better (it's like the difference between >>driving a Mack truck and a tiny sports car) and really can land nearly >>anywhere with just a few steps... and without damage. Yes, it's wind >>limited... but now I have a Kolb for windier days. Yippee! >> >>But a PPG is still a wonderful toy for low flying on a good day: >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMV3VF7et0 >> >> -Dana >> >>do not archive >> >>-- >>-- >>But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon! >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Rick Girard >"Ya'll drop on in" >takes on a whole new meaning >when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 11:48:17 AM PST US
    From: Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    rbhowell wrote: > >Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle". > >Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as I am a Private Pilot ;) . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th flight... > >I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway during landing.... My first ground loop :( . > >Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its axel. > >Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea? > >My kindest regards to all, > >Boatner > Most guys that have heel brakes find it necessary to extend the floor pan forward for exactly the reason you discovered the hard way. Any place you can get lexan will be fine as far as replacement is concerned for your windshield. Terry - FireFly #95


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    Time: 11:56:12 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    Dana, Not in my experience. Willi was killed at the Butte after a canopy collapse. George broke both legs when he was picked up by a thermal while waiting for a takeoff ramp. His wife spent a year in a body cast after being slammed into a house at Oceanside. Mike broke his back. A couple of broken legs spread around, not to mention the weekly rescue from the trees at Tiger Mtn. The rest of us retreated into the Cascades where the glide out was too far for the bags. Probably a bad statistical sample, but having no health insurance I took heed. As my sixth grade teacher, Mrs. Wood, always said, "A word to the wise is sufficient". I will admit after going through the LSARM class for PPC I was much impressed with the technology, but not enough to want to fly one. Rick I'm finally learning to add "Do not archive" On 2/24/07, David Key <dhkey@msn.com> wrote: > > > Richard, > I was under the impression that there were a lot of people injuring > themselves in hang gliding and that paragliding had less injuries. Is that > not the case? > > do not archive > >From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com> > >To: kolb-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Powered Parachute > >Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:55:22 -0600 > > > >Dana, After watching a lot of my friends transition from hang gliding to > >paragliding and the injuries invovled, I adapted the following > philosophy, > >"Airframes, don't leave Earth without them".:-) > > > >Rick > > > >On 2/24/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >>At 11:50 PM 2/23/2007, Larry Bourne wrote: > >> > > >> >I've given long and serious thought to a PPC, but even tho' I could > land > >> >almost anywhere in the event of an engine out, it'd be a helluva hike > >>out > >> >in this country. The thought of buzzing along at 20 mph at low > altitude > >> >in this canyon country sure is appealing, tho'.... > >> > >>At 07:09 AM 2/24/2007, planecrazzzy wrote: > >> > >> >I just finally sold my Buckeye Dream Machine...OK , but it got boring > >> >after a short time.... > >> > >>Don't confuse PPC and PPG; they are two very different things. A PPC is > >>still a big chunk of iron with a Rotax engine and with wheels, you still > >>can't land it just anywhere... and yeah, sluggish and kinda boring. A > >>backpack PPG, OTOH, handles FAR better (it's like the difference between > >>driving a Mack truck and a tiny sports car) and really can land nearly > >>anywhere with just a few steps... and without damage. Yes, it's wind > >>limited... but now I have a Kolb for windier days. Yippee! > >> > >>But a PPG is still a wonderful toy for low flying on a good day: > >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjMV3VF7et0 > >> > >> -Dana > >> > >>do not archive > >> > >>-- > >>-- > >>But, Officer, a broadsword is hardly a concealed weapon! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >-- > >Rick Girard > >"Ya'll drop on in" > >takes on a whole new meaning > >when you live at the airport. > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 12:16:16 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <kinnepix@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    At least you kept the M in masses -- do not archive On Feb 24, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Larry Bourne wrote: > What's this ?? Rumbling from the masses ?? :-) Do not > Archive. > > Larry Bourne > Santa Fe, NM > www.gogittum.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: russ kinne > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:57 AM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... > > What's all this talk about Bigfoot? This is the Kolb list -- > do not archive > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== >


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    Time: 12:26:37 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    Boatner, Just in case, cut your Lexan with an abrasive wheel, not a saw. I like the diamond wheels offered by Harbor Freight. When they're on sale, and that price recently doubled, they're still half the price of the large Dremel abrasive wheels and seem to last much longer. While you can get special drills for plastic from ACS, you can make your own by grinding a small flat on the chisel edge of the drill bit. If you try to use a regular bit, it will most likely get sucked into the material and cause a crack. I've attached a drawing that explains, I hope. Rick On 2/24/07, Terry <tkrolfe@usadatanet.net> wrote: > > > rbhowell wrote: > > > > >Hi all. I bought a '95 Firestar II (7 ribs) and got it a few weeks > ago. I was practicing taxi and had moved up to crow hops when a gust lifted > my left wing and forced me to "firewall the throttle". > > > >Well, I had to remember all I was told and to 'fly the plane to the > runway'. Another thing... banking in a turn with only a lap belt is a > sobering experience. I should mention here that I am severly handicapped as > I am a Private Pilot ;) . Well I landed in a cross wind with out much > incident ... the same with 6 other subsequent flights. However, that 7th > flight... > > > >I was wearing Nike tennis shoes with a slightly concave heel. Well, on > my last landing, my left foot got caught on the sheet metal and there I was > with full left rudder deflection just as the plane settled on the runway > during landing.... My first ground loop :( . > > > >Well, the damage is rather light. No structural but I damaged the > windshield when I was trying to free my foot. The end of my aileron had > fabric abrased (needs repair) and the tailwheel has has slid a bit off its > axel. > > > >Has anybody else come across this type of problem? I plan to rivet a > sheet metal piece to extend the floor. Is this a good idea? > > > >My kindest regards to all, > > > >Boatner > > > Most guys that have heel brakes find it necessary to extend the floor > pan forward for exactly the reason you discovered the hard way. Any > place you can get lexan will be fine as far as replacement is concerned > for your windshield. > > Terry - FireFly #95 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 01:43:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    I don't have to remember....I just made a "signiture" out of it.... ( I never say anything worth remembering anyway ) Gotta Fly... Mike in MN jindoguy(at)gmail.com wrote: > > > I'm finally learning to add "Do not archive" > > -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97108#97108


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    Time: 01:59:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Who has had an engine out in flight?
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    Just for the record, "don't archive".....Doesn't work.... neither does DNA or any other way you can think of.... the only way it works is Do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE Do Not Archive all those , would work... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN jghunter(at)nol.net wrote: > > dont archive... -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97111#97111


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    Time: 02:07:36 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    At 02:29 PM 2/24/2007, David Key wrote: > >I was under the impression that there were a lot of people injuring >themselves in hang gliding and that paragliding had less injuries. Is that >not the case? HG and PG (unpowered) are pretty comparable statistically in terms of injuries. Powereed PG (PPG), OTOH, has a much better safety record. This is largely because PPGers avoid the active air that their unpowered brethren seek out. Also, a botched PPG takeoff leaves you on the ground, whereas a PGer may find himself instantly hundreds of feet up as he goes over the edge. Finally, like any powered aircraft landing, under normal conditions the PPG pilot has power available to go around if necessary. Wing collapses (which fixed wing pilots seem to fear the most) are actually pretty rare in PPG flying, and account for a very small percentage of accidents. Most accidents are inexperienced pilots (unfortunately PPG training tends to be inadequate) doing something stupid, and experienced pilots pushing it too hard too close to the ground. Although it *looks* insane (I admit it), the safety record of PPG (per flight hour) is about the same as for certified aircraft. -Dana do not archive -- -- Work is underway on drafting a new constitution for Iraq. Why don't we send them ours? It worked for 200 years, and we don't use it any more.


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    Time: 02:23:03 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
    Subject: Kolb video
    Hi Gang Last summer at Oshkosh I recorded this video with my point and shot camera, it is Dick Rahill and the Kolb company's FSII. Bill Vincent FS II Do Not Archive Dick Rahill 0 sec - Feb 22, 2007 Description: Kolb flying at Oshkosh 2006 Want to see more cool videos? Go to video.google.com/ Think you have an even cooler video? Add it at video.google.com/videouploadform If you're having trouble watching the video, try copying the following URL into your browser: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8964491261132825183&pr=goog- sl


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    Time: 02:30:54 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Vincent" <emailbill@chartermi.net>
    Subject: 182 short field landing Video
    Hey Possum Check this one out ! Bill Vincent FS II Do Not Archive http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYiTdiiiCXY


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    Time: 02:40:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: prop hub extentions
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    here is the one we made with the 912 lugs pressed in -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97117#97117 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p2240041_112.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p2240039_115.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p2240038_745.jpg


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    Time: 03:01:51 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    I spent a whole summer about 7 years ago, flying HG's and PG's at the very active flight area behind the University of California at San Bernardino, and aside from a couple of twisted ankles, neither saw nor heard of any other injuries. That's not to say injuries don't happen - I know they most certainly do, but I felt comfortable and secure in both types of beast. As has been said, common sense is probably the biggest factor. Lar. Do not Archive. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Powered Parachute > > At 02:29 PM 2/24/2007, David Key wrote: >> >>I was under the impression that there were a lot of people injuring >>themselves in hang gliding and that paragliding had less injuries. Is that >>not the case? > > HG and PG (unpowered) are pretty comparable statistically in terms of > injuries. Powereed PG (PPG), OTOH, has a much better safety record. This > is largely because PPGers avoid the active air that their unpowered > brethren seek out. Also, a botched PPG takeoff leaves you on the ground, > whereas a PGer may find himself instantly hundreds of feet up as he goes > over the edge. Finally, like any powered aircraft landing, under normal > conditions the PPG pilot has power available to go around if necessary. > > Wing collapses (which fixed wing pilots seem to fear the most) are > actually pretty rare in PPG flying, and account for a very small > percentage of accidents. Most accidents are inexperienced pilots > (unfortunately PPG training tends to be inadequate) doing something > stupid, and experienced pilots pushing it too hard too close to the > ground. Although it *looks* insane (I admit it), the safety record of PPG > (per flight hour) is about the same as for certified aircraft. > > -Dana > > do not archive > -- > -- > Work is underway on drafting a new constitution for Iraq. Why don't we > send them ours? It worked for 200 years, and we don't use it any more. > > >


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    Time: 05:14:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal
    From: "blackbird" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    In Experimental Amateur - built........51% of the building rule still applies..... Nothing has changed for this class of aircraft.....including if you can prove you built it.......you can perform the annual as builder of aircraft...and maintain it................photos , documentation....etc......... WT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97142#97142


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    Time: 06:03:31 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal
    Not to put too fine a point on it, but you can only do the annuals if you have a repairman certificate for the aircraft you built and you must request the certificate at the time you recieve your airworthiness certificate and op limitations. It isn't issued automatically and without it you can't sign off your annuals. Rick On 2/24/07, blackbird <blackbird754@alltel.net> wrote: > > > In Experimental Amateur - built........51% of the building rule still > applies..... > > > Nothing has changed for this class of aircraft.....including if you can > prove you built it.......you can perform the annual as builder of > aircraft...and maintain it................photos , > documentation....etc......... > > > WT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97142#97142 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 07:10:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    From: "rbhowell" <bhowell@teamft.com>
    Rick, I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to cut Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I also have a Dremel. Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to drill holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep from buying several sheets is appreciated!!!! Thanks, Boatner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97151#97151


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    Time: 07:32:14 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Girard" <jindoguy@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    Boatner, I use a Dremel, but a die grinder should work just fine, too. I like the smaller diameter cut off wheels, they make a nicer inside radius than bigger wheels do. As for the drills, the idea is to grind a small flat to make the drill scrape away the material rather than cut it away. This is a standard prep for drilling any soft material like plastic, brass or lead. It takes just a second to do with a bench grinder, but you could do it with a Dremel, too. All you need is a small flat to keep the drill from being sucked into the material without actually cutting which will cause a star crack every time. Rick On 2/24/07, rbhowell <bhowell@teamft.com> wrote: > > > Rick, > > I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to cut > Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I also have a > Dremel. > > Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to drill > holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep from buying > several sheets is appreciated!!!! > > Thanks, > > Boatner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97151#97151 > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport.


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    Time: 07:33:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    Guys If you are using .0625 lexan, it cuts just fine with a set of straight jaw tin shears.. the bigger the better.. I use a std bench grinder to taper and deburr.. Works for me... Herb On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:09:27 -0800 "rbhowell" <bhowell@teamft.com> writes: > > Rick, > > I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to > cut Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I > also have a Dremel. > > Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to > drill holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep > from buying several sheets is appreciated!!!! > > Thanks, > > Boatner > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97151#97151 > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:02:33 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    All I've ever used to cut lexan is a pair of tin snips, then smooth the edges with a small Stanley Sur-form plane. The small curved one works very well. Set it up to cut on the pull stroke. Lexan is very tough and very different from plexiglass, which will crack at a hard look. For a drill bit, if you have the knowledge and skill, grind your own..........I bought a special bit from Aircraft Spruce, but I'd imagine the local Ace Hardware and Aircraft Supply would either have one, or could order one for you. Lar. Larry Bourne Santa Fe, NM www.gogittum.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "rbhowell" <bhowell@teamft.com> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:09 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber... > > Rick, > > I have a die grinder... is that what you are talking about using to cut > Lexan? This will be the first time I've ever handled Lexan. I also have > a Dremel. > > Are you saying to slightly grind the sharp point of a drill bit to drill > holes for attachment? Any advice you have to help me keep from buying > several sheets is appreciated!!!! > > Thanks, > > Boatner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97151#97151 > > >


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    Time: 08:03:07 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    Hi Gang: Been out of town a couple days. Got home tonight and found the subject line above. Must be on the wrong list again. Excuse me please, john h mkIII (Rocket deployed emergency parachute on my airplane, and T-10's and T-7A's in the Army. Don't want to use any of them, any more. Don't think I want to fly with one either.) DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:13:16 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Powered Parachute
    | impressed with the technology, but not enough to want to fly one. | | Rick Rick: You and all the rest of the parachute guys do not have to worry about me crowding the sky attempting to fly a parachute. I am a Kolb builder and flyer. Have no interest in parachutes, other than emergency parachutes and how they relate to Kolb Aircraft. That's why I became a member of the Kolb List. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:22:52 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Hello from a brand new Kolber...
    | | For a drill bit, if you have the knowledge and skill, grind your | own..........I bought a special bit from Aircraft Spruce, Lar. Larry: I also have always cut Lexan with aviation sheet metal snips, and hand sand the edges nice and smooth as I can, before I get tired and go do something else. Unlike a lot of you all, I us "normal" HS drill bits, 1/8" for 1/8" pop rivets, and 3/16" for No 10 screws. All the above works well for me, but am willing to try anything that will make the job easier and produce better quality work. In about a week I will start replacing all the Lexan in my mkIII, do some more stuff that has been put on the waiting list for the last 6 years, then mount the new 912ULS. The wings are off the aircraft and it is ready to come home for the first time in six years. By bringing it home, putting it into my basement (shoe box), I can get a lot more work done in a shorter period of time, since all my machines and tools are at home and not at the airstrip. Plus I can work at night and whenever I feel like it. No lights at the airstrip, and the front of the hanger is open. Does not make for a friendly work environment. john h mkIII


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    Time: 08:58:21 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark III Xtra Wings & fuselage for sal/Repairman's
    Certificate | off your annuals. | | Rick Rick: Never heard of an inspector not automatically filling out submitting the Repairman's Certificate for the experimental aircraft he is inspecting.. Doesn't mean much though cause I haven't been around more that a couple dozen friends that went through the process. Best make sure your inspector does and knows your wishes. I mean, who would not want to be the the guy to sigh off on his aircraft, no matter who owns it. john h mkIII


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    Time: 09:10:34 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: 182 short field landing Video
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 182 short field landing Video | | | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYiTdiiiCXY | | | Bill V: | | Skookumchuck, BC, Canada, has a very neat airstrip. That was an | interesting landing and approach. | | I flew right over Skookumchuck a couple years ago and did not know it. | It was right on my route of flight from Cranbrook, BC, where I entered | Canada, and up the trench following the Kootenay River, to Prince | George, BC. I'll see if I can find a few appropriate photos of that | area. I flew pretty high in that area because lack of safe forced | landing areas, and lots of ice water. | | john h | mkIII | | DO NOT ARCHVIVE |


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    Time: 09:12:38 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: 182 short field landing Video
    | | Skookumchuck, BC, Canada, has a very neat airstrip. Hi Gang: I attached too many photos to the first post and got it kicked back. I deleted three from the first post and resent. This is the other three photos. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE




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