---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/01/07: 42 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:34 AM - Fw: Looks Exciting (thumb) 2. 05:33 AM - Re: Bulb bypass (Thom Riddle) 3. 06:09 AM - Re: New website (David Lucas) 4. 06:31 AM - Re: Re: Bulb bypass (knowvne@aol.com) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: Snow Skis (ElleryWeld@aol.com) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: Snow Skis (pat ladd) 7. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Bulb bypass (pat ladd) 8. 07:26 AM - Re: Kolbs in the Wind (pat ladd) 9. 08:17 AM - Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III (Flyboy7) 10. 08:17 AM - Re: Snow Skis (knowvne@aol.com) 11. 08:25 AM - Re: Snow Skis (knowvne@aol.com) 12. 08:47 AM - Kolb on skis (Kirk Smith) 13. 09:49 AM - Re: Minnesota skis - Part 1 (Ralph) 14. 11:11 AM - Re: Minnesota skis - Part 1 (David Lehman) 15. 02:06 PM - Re: New website (icrashrc) 16. 02:49 PM - Bulb Bypass (frank & margie) 17. 02:49 PM - Hose Clamps (frank & margie) 18. 02:49 PM - Primer vs Choke (frank & margie) 19. 03:15 PM - FSII 12 gallon fuel tank mod (Richard Pike) 20. 03:25 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Dana Hague) 21. 04:10 PM - Re: Kolb on skis (John Hauck) 22. 04:47 PM - Re: New website (JetPilot) 23. 05:07 PM - Re: Kolb on skis (snuffy@usol.com) 24. 05:39 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Charlie England) 25. 05:43 PM - Re: Re: Recommended Prop for my Firstar aka Argued Topics (Larry Bourne) 26. 05:48 PM - Re: Lexan door latch - how to make/where to buy (Larry Bourne) 27. 06:07 PM - Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 (Craig Nelson) 28. 06:09 PM - Enrichers Vs Primers (John Hauck) 29. 06:29 PM - Two Stroke Coils and Wire Attachment (John Hauck) 30. 06:32 PM - Re: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 (John Hauck) 31. 06:35 PM - Re: Kolb on skis (Bill Vincent) 32. 06:42 PM - Re: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 (Craig Nelson) 33. 06:49 PM - Picture of snow skis (Bill Vincent) 34. 06:53 PM - Re: Kolb on skis (John Hauck) 35. 06:53 PM - Re: Two Stroke Coils and Wire Attachment (Beauford T) 36. 06:58 PM - Re: Picture of snow skis (David Lehman) 37. 07:26 PM - Kolb crash (olendorf) 38. 07:52 PM - Re: Kolb on skis (Bob Noyer) 39. 08:04 PM - Re: Kolb crash (David Lehman) 40. 08:08 PM - Re: Hose Clamps, copper wire (Bob Noyer) 41. 11:31 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) 42. 11:33 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:34:11 AM PST US From: "thumb" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: Looks Exciting Not exactly Kolb related but I just thought some of you will find this interesting. You that have dial-up it may take a few minutes to down load. I am familiar with the type of engines he is using. They are truly model jet engines and produce about 50 to 60lbs of thrust each. And they burn jet fuel just like the big guys. Do Not Archive Bill Futrell ----- Original Message ----- From: JARED AND ANGIE SERFF Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:17 PM Subject: Fw: Looks Exciting Bill, I know you love flying . You should try this! -Angie Click here: http://jet-man.com/playervideo.swf?video=jetman2007.flv ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:06 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Bulb bypass From: "Thom Riddle" Pat, It is called OSHA over here. Occupational Safety and Health Administration or somesuch nonsense. Are backup horns required on trucks and tractors in the UK? Every time a truck or tractor is put into reverse gear here, an incredibly loud and irritating claxon beeps until it is out of reverse gear. Of course, exposure to that requires ear protectors which muffle the sound so much you can't hear the guy on the ground trying to tell you something like, "You just ran over a deaf child, please stop so we can see if he is dead." Over here, we call braces suspenders... just so you know :-). Thom in Buffalo do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98100#98100 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New website From: "David Lucas" Hey, I like that stylised outline of the Mklllxtra on your web page ! Do you sell any 'T' shirts [Wink] ? David. Do not archive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98108#98108 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:31:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Bulb bypass From: knowvne@aol.com Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: jtriddle@adelphia.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 8:32 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Bulb bypass Pat, It is called OSHA over here. Occupational Safety and Health Administration or somesuch nonsense. Are backup horns required on trucks and tractors in the UK? Thom A buddy of mines wife just got a new Artic Cat Snowmobile and even it has a back up alarm... Un real... Ya know when you think about it all vehicles should have a Forward Alarm... Isn't that when most accidents happen ? 8-) Mark ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:29 AM PST US From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Snow Skis You didnt look very hard or in the right place here is the place to see the pictures Matronics Email List Photo Share Listings - ElleryWeld@aol.com.02.05.2005 Ellery do not archive ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:38 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Snow Skis I started looked at some Skis on snowmobile and thought they might be just the ticket>> Hi a friend of mine used the bumpers (fenders?) from an old car and flew all one winter with them. There was a girl that he reely reely needed to visit. Anything will do in a pinch. Incidentally he tied them on with binder twine. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:04 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Bulb bypass Are backup horns required on trucks and tractors in the UK?>> Yes they are but there was this guy justifying his job by lecturing a crowd of roughnecks who had been repairing roads since before he was born. Great Day in the Morning! How do these guys sleep at night knowing that their job could be dispensed with tomorrow and no one would be a bit worse off. Cheers Pat do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:15 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolbs in the Wind more than once I've made flights without ever turning >> Hi Dana I have done it in a glider. Winch launch to around 1100 feet and then just drop the cable and sit there and drift gently backwards. Get back beyond the launch point and then put the nose down and land at the take off point. Fun. Done it once in an autogyro too. We flew slower and slower until the ground began to move forward. Strange feeling. Then the pilot said `I expect you are wondering what would happen if the engine stopped now` and cut the switch. We dropped the nose and autorotated straight down and landed gently on the numbers. Quite exciting. Cheers Pat do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:01 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III From: "Flyboy7" Hi Kolbers, I'm new to the forum and to Kolbs. I will be buying a Mark III this spring and want to keep it at home. My issue is how to trailer. I've got mixed emotions about open trailering for longer distances due to wind buffeting and road hazards, but feel that an enclosed trailer is too costly and cumbersome. I'm looking for ideas on what others are doing. Does anyone have photos of their trailers or a web site to look at? Thanks for your help Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98132#98132 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Snow Skis From: knowvne@aol.com guess not I was looking for an attachment... Sorry Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: ElleryWeld@aol.com Sent: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 9:56 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Snow Skis You didnt look very hard or in the right place here is the place to see the pictures Matronics Email List Photo Share Listings - ElleryWeld@aol.com.02.05.2005 Ellery do not archive ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Snow Skis From: knowvne@aol.com Ahhhhhhhh NO ............ Experimental YES - Suicidal NO HAHAHAHAHA The short water ski or Snowmobile ski approach seems to be our most viable options at the moment..... Their are some really creative ideas out there... Thanks to all who cared enough to share.... Mark Vaughn Hi a friend of mine used the bumpers (fenders?) from an old car and flew all one winter with them. There was a girl that he reely reely needed to visit. Anything will do in a pinch. Incidentally he tied them on with binder twine. Cheers Pat ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:25 AM PST US From: "Kirk Smith" Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22765 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:09 AM PST US From: "Ralph" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Minnesota skis - Part 1 Not to confuse anyone about the skis, but the carriage bolts were used with standard nuts on top and the blind nuts were used on the bottom front and rear with an "eye" bolt for the rigging. Ralph -- "Ralph" wrote: -- knowvne@aol.com wrote: HI Ralph I saw your images on the KOLB Web site... 20 years WOW looks like they do the trick just fine... Are they Wood a Polymer What? Did you use Carriage Bolts on the bottom to hold your axial assembly?? Thanks Mark Vaughn Mark, they are a composite material for water skis. I don't know what material it is, but it's like hard rubber. You might contact the Cascade water ski company and ask them. Be careful when drilling out the holes in the skis as they have a steel rod running down the sides. Find them with a stud detector. I used 5/16" carriage bolts and blind nuts (hardware store). If you save the plans to your computer, they are clearer so you can see everything. I made these plans about 9 years ago. The skis slide onto the axle through the hole and are held on with spacers and washers. They were made for the Original Firestar axle which was 3/4". The new axle is 5/8" and I have to use an aluminum tube which I slide over the the axle. It works great. Of course, if they were constructed new, drill out for 5/8" w/o the tubes, but still need the washers. I wax the bottoms with ordinary jelly paraffin wax purchased from a grocery store. Take the wax and rub it on. No heat needed. I bought the skis new from "Play-it-Again-Sports" store. They were $75. These are cheap skis and they work well in heavy snow because of the ski area. They are low drag too. They tailwheel rod has a triangular oak block attached with long hose clamps to help protect the tailwheel. The block has another purpose in offsetting the extra weight due to winter flying clothing. Ralph Burlingame -----Original Message----- From: ul15rhb@juno.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:01 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Minnesota skis - Part 1 Here are the skis I've been flying with for 20 years (see attached). They are composite water skis with the water hardware removed. Ralph Burlingame Original Firestar Minnesota ______________________________________________________________________ _ _ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc? s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.p d ?c=uol5752 [Image Removed] [Image Removed] [Image Removed] ______________________________________________________________________ _ _ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ______________________________________________________________________ __ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc? s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.p d?c=uol5752 ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.com/products/online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:43 AM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Minnesota skis - Part 1 Ralph... Where did you get the streamline struts?... DVD Another Original Firestar Kalifonia do not archive On 2/28/07, Ralph wrote: > > Here are the skis I've been flying with for 20 years (see attached). > They are composite water skis with the water hardware removed. > > Ralph Burlingame > Original Firestar > Minnesota > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:57 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New website From: "icrashrc" We have that logo on hats, polo shirts, and coveralls but just for our own use. The artwork is original but I don't know how happy Kolb would be with me if i was selling a likeness of thier plane for profit. :-) -------- Scott do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98180#98180 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:25 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Bulb Bypass Ref; From: "pat ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Bulb bypass the bypass tees before and after the squeeze bulb>> Hi all, do you have a history of bulbs fouling over there? Bypasses seems to be yet another complication and another flouting of the KISS priciple. I have never noticed anyone here with a bulb bypass set up and I have never heard of there being a problem. Is this yet another example of the `it might happen` attitude beloved by insurers without looking at the actual failure rate? ------------------------------- I've had a bulb fail-----check valve stuck closed (fortunately on the ground). I won't use one without a bypass anymore. As a mattter of fact, I recently installed a Facet electronic pump, in series, per recent discussions on this forum. (Facet #40105, low pressure) Only problem was a leaking primer, now that it had pressure behind it---flooded the engine when I was checking the new installation for leaks (Pump on, engine not running) A new primer solved that. Frank Clyma Orange Park, FL ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:28 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps REF: From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Primer versus Choke? Re: safety hose clamps. I've used soft copper instead of steel...won't cut fuel line, and easier to use on smaller lines. Fire away, gridleak. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb ----------------------------------------- Bob, Please tell us more about your copper clamps. Do you mean copper wire vs steel, or an Ideal-type screw clamp, or? Where do you get them? Ref the other current posts on the subject; I've had safety wire (per Richard Pike) cut the tubing. I probably overtightened it, but just knowing it could cut into the fuel line has scared me off. I agree tie wraps don't seal all 360 degrees----but I sometimes still use them where the nipple length and diameter are probably sufficient to hold the tube without any clamp, like on the carbs. I've used small tie wraps on the primer nipples, for 1/8 fuel line----not totally comfortable with this, but space between the 2 nipples limits what will fit (especially with the "out" hose being rubber automotive hose). I've gone to rubber hose for most of my installation. Still use clear Tygothane from carbs to pulse pump, and from carb primer ports to where they're T'd into the 1/8 rubber hose----this allows viewing the fuel flow to confirm the electronic pump and the primer are working. And have 1/8 clear fuel line from the T in the main fuel line, to the in port on the primer, due to space limitations. I'm using Corbin clamps on most connections, rubber and Tygothane. Use small, narrow, Ideal-type screw clamps in a few places----particularly on the pulse pump in port; the nipple there is small dia and short, and an air leak there could really slow down the pulse pump action (or leak fuel onto a hot engine now that I have the electronic pump). Also use screw clamps on the pulse line. I've learned the hard way that screw clamps can be overtightened too, and I don't like to use them on plastic nipples, as on fuel filters or T & Y fittings. This subject has seen quite a bit of discussion B4, but I'm still looking for better answers in an area that I think bears close watching. Frank Clyma Orange Park, FL ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:32 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Primer vs Choke REF: I used to have my primer ..."T'd" in my fuel line.... Just thought that was a bad idea....So it has it's own pick up tube from the fuel tank now..... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN ... .. ... blackbird wrote: > Ok, > > The primer "t" goes after the squeeze bulb.......CPS says it must be mounted in the horizontal position.....New issue.. ------------------------------------------- My "T" is vertical, and seems to work fine. I kind of like Mike's idea of a seperate pick up, however, eliminating the T altogether----the 1/8 part of the plastic T sorta seems a little flimsy, makes me wonder if it might break----- Frank Clyma Orange Park, FL ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:20 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: FSII 12 gallon fuel tank mod Took some pictures of the tank mods for the FSII yesterday, got the web page done a bit ago. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSIITankMods.html Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:42 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps I don't like the tywraps for holding tubing; they leave one square corner unclamped and thus prone to leakage. Worm screw clamps have the same problem in smaller size, which is why you never see them on new cars. You *can* buy tywraps made for round tubing: ( http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/113/gfx/large/6705kp2l.gif ) but I've never used them, preferring to use safety wire. For tubing I've been using either the yellow Tygon tubing (made for fuel and oil) or the blue stuff Aircraft Spruce sells. Over on the Quicksilver list people don't like the blue stuff but could never give a good reason why, only saying, "it sucks". -Dana -- -- Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:12 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22765 Snuffy/Bill V: I remember seeing this video last year, but do not remember him coming in hot and doing a go around. Question, how does he stop it on that strip.? john h mkIII PS: Drove through multiple cells, from Tallahassee, FL, to hauck's holler, AL, this afternoon. When I went through Ozark, the town was without power and the wind was howling. I did not know that Enterprise, AL, had already been hit by a tornado. 8 dead. It demoslished the high school. Troy, AL, rained so hard I could not see. Just south of MGM hit another big cell of frog stragling rain. When I got home, it had rained, but no damage. Still waiting to see what happens before thsi big system moves through our area. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:08 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New website From: "JetPilot" If everyone in America had a shirt with that design on it, Kolb would be selling a LOT of planes :) I think its a great idea, shirts, hats, coveralls, Kolb would benefit as much as you would. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98201#98201 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:17 PM PST US From: snuffy@usol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis Question, how does he stop it on that > strip.? > > john h Don't know how he stopped. Only experience I had with skis was with a C-120 on Federal 1500's and the places I flew in and out of stopping was a non issue. Like on Saginaw bay. It's a good idea to know how far yer plane will slide after touchdown and give yerself plenty of room. You can sometimes steer into a few snow drifts as long as there ain't no fences or stuff buried in them. I had deeper unpacked snow on the north edge of my runway I could steer into to slow her down quicker if needed. I stayed away from ice with no snow on it. Also I always carried 2 short 2x4's to put under the front of the skis so they wouldn't freeze down when I parked her. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:32 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps frank & margie wrote: > *REF*: > From: Bob Noyer > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Primer versus Choke? > > > Re: safety hose clamps. I've used soft copper instead of > steel...won't cut fuel line, and easier to use on smaller lines. Fire > away, gridleak. > regards, > Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb > ----------------------------------------- > > Bob, > Please tell us more about your copper clamps. Do you mean copper > wire vs steel, or an Ideal-type screw clamp, or? Where do you get them? > > Ref the other current posts on the subject; I've had safety wire > (per Richard Pike) cut the tubing. I probably overtightened it, but > just knowing it could cut into the fuel line has scared me off. I agree > tie wraps don't seal all 360 degrees----but I sometimes still use them > where the nipple length and diameter are probably sufficient to hold the > tube without any clamp, like on the carbs. I've used small tie wraps on > the primer nipples, for 1/8 fuel line----not totally comfortable with > this, but space between the 2 nipples limits what will fit (especially > with the "out" hose being rubber automotive hose). > > I've gone to rubber hose for most of my installation. Still use > clear Tygothane from carbs to pulse pump, and from carb primer ports to > where they're T'd into the 1/8 rubber hose----this allows viewing the > fuel flow to confirm the electronic pump and the primer are working. > And have 1/8 clear fuel line from the T in the main fuel line, to the in > port on the primer, due to space limitations. > > I'm using Corbin clamps on most connections, rubber and Tygothane. > Use small, narrow, Ideal-type screw clamps in a few > places----particularly on the pulse pump in port; the nipple there is > small dia and short, and an air leak there could really slow down the > pulse pump action (or leak fuel onto a hot engine now that I have the > electronic pump). Also use screw clamps on the pulse line. I've > learned the hard way that screw clamps can be overtightened too, and I > don't like to use them on plastic nipples, as on fuel filters or T & Y > fittings. > > This subject has seen quite a bit of discussion B4, but I'm > still looking for better answers in an area that I think bears close > watching. > > Frank Clyma > Orange Park, FL > There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine homebuilt) for years. I'll try to find a link if you want it. Charlie ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:43:34 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Recommended Prop for my Firstar aka Argued Topics Ahhhhh, Bob. You beat me to it, on both of 'um. Lar. Do not Archive. On 2/27/07, Bob Noyer wrote: > > > Don't forget: Crow Hopping, and Downwind Turns! > regards, > Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb > http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:34 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lexan door latch - how to make/where to buy If you want locking doors, take a look at "gullwing doors" and "left hand throttle" in "single pictures" on my website. I made them with pickup canopy latches. Lar. On 2/28/07, Richard Pike wrote: > > > Here is the latch on our Firestar II. > http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Latch.html > If you want more detailed pictures, let me know, I'll post some .jpg's on > the forum. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John H Murphy" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:16 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan door latch - how to make/where to buy > > > > > > My "summer doors" for my Firestar have just been installed. They lack > any > > type of latch or locking mechanism to keep them closed in flight. Any > > ideas as to hardware to buy or to how to make would be appreciated. > These > > doors are hinged much like the Kolb Mark III...with the same tube steel > > from the gap cover to the nose piece. > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=97795#97795 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:07:01 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 From: "Craig Nelson" <> <> G <> re <> at <> day for a taxi test in arizona.I checked my air speed with the gps and it is definatly off. The winds were calm and I was indicating 100 at 5200. the gps showed 87 still no dors or windows Uncle craig Do not archive ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:09:55 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Enrichers Vs Primers Hi Gang: Been reading with interest the discussions on primers and their assorted plumbing and hardware. I have been using what came with the engines since day one. That includes my 912 engines, as well as Rotax two strokes. They always work for me in all temps, low and high. The secret is to use the prescribed procedure for starting as described in the operators manual. 1-Throttle closed. 2-Enricher full open. 3-Hit the starter. The enricher dumps a load of fuel initially, then continues to operate on a larger idle jet and more air to increase rpm. I also experienced leaking enricher on the old 447. When I discovered what it was, put a new part in it and drove on. The 912 carb does not use the same valve as the two stroke. It is a rotating valve with "O" rings that seems to work better and last longer. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:02 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Two Stroke Coils and Wire Attachment Buford T: Sorry about the misinformation, reference attachment of plug wires on your engine. Understand the newer ignitions do not use the threaded studs, but cement the wires into the ignition modules. The 912 uses ignition modules and also uses coils which use the same attachment as my old 447, threaded studs. 20,000 xin loi, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:23 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 gps and it is definatly off. The winds were calm and I was indicating 100 at 5200. the gps showed 87 still no dors or windows Uncle craig Craig: Is that a loop antenna of some sort under the nose of your Xtra? I don't have one of those on my mkIII. ;-) But..............if it makes you fly faster, I'll see about putting one on the old gal. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:24 PM PST US From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis Hi John I just saw on TV that there is some really bad weather in your area, we hope all is well. No problem stopping on Aaron's strip with skis because we are coming in lower and slower; also the tail wheel make a good break in certain types of snow. My old T-Bird was so heavy in the rear that I had to have a tail wheel ski on it. (I don't miss that plane) Bill Vincent FS II Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22765 > > > Snuffy/Bill V: > > I remember seeing this video last year, but do not remember him coming > in hot and doing a go around. Question, how does he stop it on that > strip.? > > john h > mkIII > > PS: Drove through multiple cells, from Tallahassee, FL, to hauck's > holler, AL, this afternoon. When I went through Ozark, the town was > without power and the wind was howling. I did not know that > Enterprise, AL, had already been hit by a tornado. 8 dead. It > demoslished the high school. Troy, AL, rained so hard I could not > see. Just south of MGM hit another big cell of frog stragling rain. > When I got home, it had rained, but no damage. Still waiting to see > what happens before thsi big system moves through our area. > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:46 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 From: "Craig Nelson" John it's a nose over hoop from kolb I don't think your old gal will ever need one of those with your gear. You sit mighty nice with Uncle craig--- ps this is winter flying in PHX it's a dry cold Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Emailing: cowling flight 163, cowling flight 164, cowling flight 166, cowling flight 167, cowling flight 162 gps and it is definatly off. The winds were calm and I was indicating 100 at 5200. the gps showed 87 still no dors or windows Uncle craig Craig: Is that a loop antenna of some sort under the nose of your Xtra? I don't have one of those on my mkIII. ;-) But..............if it makes you fly faster, I'll see about putting one on the old gal. john h DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:09 PM PST US From: "Bill Vincent" Subject: Kolb-List: Picture of snow skis Hi Gang These are the skis I made for my Kolb. I made them out of old water skis that I had bought at a rummage sale for $10.00. I do not recommend making skis with metal bottoms because they will freeze to the ground. I also put a stainless steel 3/8 inch rod down the middle of the bottom of the ski, this keeps it from sliding side ways. I made it so that the axel is the same height as the wheel. I find that flying with skis is easier than with wheels, except when the snow is too sticky. Sometimes when I am taking off I have to bounce the skis back onto the runway to knock the snow off of the top of the skis. Bill Vincent FS II Upper Peninsula of Michigan P.S. Included is a picture of Scott Trask which is Mark III on skis. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:44 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis Thanks Bill V: All is well at hauck's holler, but the folks down in Enterprise, AL, did not fare so well. Last report I got was 9 dead. Tornado hit the high school. Seems the little kolb tail wheel would make a good brake. Just haul back on the stick once the plane quits flying. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:46 PM PST US From: "Beauford T" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Two Stroke Coils and Wire Attachment John: ....no sweat, G.I....and certainly no xin lois req'd... I'm gonna just go at it from the other end... I KNOW those caps screw off... It would sure help if those nazi bastards would put something about it into the manuals.. I spent almost 2 hours chasing that on Google and in my documentation... never did find anything... Really bad about what happened in Enterprise this evening... I feel for those poor parents. Wonder if Mother Rucker got any of it...? Did you get any at your place? Heard Wetumpka mentioned on Fox a couple of times today... b. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 9:28 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Two Stroke Coils and Wire Attachment > > Buford T: > > Sorry about the misinformation, reference attachment of plug wires on > your engine. Understand the newer ignitions do not use the threaded > studs, but cement the wires into the ignition modules. > > The 912 uses ignition modules and also uses coils which use the same > attachment as my old 447, threaded studs. > > 20,000 xin loi, > > john h > mkIII > > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:38 PM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Picture of snow skis Bill... Like your idea of using rollers for a ramp, never thought of that... Would probably work for floats too... DVD do not archive On 3/1/07, Bill Vincent wrote: > > Hi Gang > These are the skis I made for my Kolb. I made them out of old water skis > that I had bought at a rummage sale for $10.00. I do not recommend making > skis with metal bottoms because they will freeze to the ground. > I also put a stainless steel 3/8 inch rod down the middle of the bottom o f > the ski, this keeps it from sliding side ways. I made it so that the axel is > the same height as the wheel. I find that flying with skis is easier than > with wheels, except when the snow is too sticky. Sometimes when I am taki ng > off I have to bounce the skis back onto the runway to knock the snow off of > the top of the skis. > Bill Vincent > FS II > Upper Peninsula of Michigan > P.S. Included is a picture of Scott Trask which is Mark III on skis. > > Do Not Archive > > -- "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty thi ngs"... ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb crash From: "olendorf" >From Orlando, FL. Orlando Sentinel : SANDY CREEK -- The bodies of two men were discovered in the wreckage of an ultralight aircraft Wednesday, a day after the plane was reported missing, authorities said. A fellow pilot spotted the wreckage of the Kolb Mark III ultralight shortly before 8 a.m. and alerted authorities, according to the Bay County Sheriff's Office. The Bay County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue Unit located the bodies soon after the pilot's report, authorities said. The bodies of the pilot, Joseph Peter Lagerloef, 69, of Panama City, and his passenger, Claude Frank Phillips, 63, of Lynn Haven, were recovered, reports said. The men took off from Sandy Creek Airstrip about 10 a.m. Tuesday and were reported missing that evening, sheriff's officials said. A flight plan had not been filed. It was not clear where the men intended to fly. The Federal Aviation Administration was investigating the crash. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98236#98236 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:51 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb on skis Not Kolb related. Yesterday 6-8 Kiowa (sp?) helos flopped down here at Winchester VA regional, enroute Ft Rucker, from Iraq for overhaul. They surely looked beat, the helos AND the crews. Supposed to TO at first light today..hope they either didn't, or stopped before AL. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:22 PM PST US From: "David Lehman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb crash May they rest in peace... This was this morning's FAA prelim... *************************************************************************** ***** ** Report created 3/1/2007 Record 1 ** *************************************************************************** ***** IDENTIFICATION Regis#: UNREG Make/Model: ULTR Description: UNREGISTERED ULTRALIGHT Date: 02/28/2007 Time: 1600 Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: N Missing: N Damage: Unknown LOCATION City: PANAMA CITY State: FL Country: US DESCRIPTION UNREGISTERED ULTRALIGHT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD WERE FATALLY INJURED, BAY COUNTY, PANAMA CITY, FL INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 2 # Crew: 2 Fat: 2 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk : # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk : # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk : WEATHER: NOT REPORTED OTHER DATA Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: OTHER Departed: Dep Date: Dep. Time: Destination: Flt Plan: Wx Briefing: Last Radio Cont: Last Clearance: FAA FSDO: BIRMINGHAM, AL (SO09) Entry date: 03/01/2007 DVD do not archive On 3/1/07, olendorf wrote: > > > >From Orlando, FL. Orlando Sentinel : > > SANDY CREEK -- The bodies of two men were discovered in the wreckage of a n > ultralight aircraft Wednesday, a day after the plane was reported missing , > authorities said. > > A fellow pilot spotted the wreckage of the Kolb Mark III ultralight > shortly before 8 a.m. and alerted authorities, according to the Bay Count y > Sheriff's Office. > > The Bay County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue Unit located the bodies > soon after the pilot's report, authorities said. > > The bodies of the pilot, Joseph Peter Lagerloef, 69, of Panama City, and > his passenger, Claude Frank Phillips, 63, of Lynn Haven, were recovered, > reports said. > > The men took off from Sandy Creek Airstrip about 10 a.m. Tuesday and were > reported missing that evening, sheriff's officials said. > > A flight plan had not been filed. > > It was not clear where the men intended to fly. > > The Federal Aviation Administration was investigating the crash. > > -------- > Scott Olendorf > Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop > Schenectady, NY > http://KolbFirestar.googlepages.com > > -- "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty thi ngs"... ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:04 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps, copper wire I'll try to get to arpt tomorrow if Niagara Falls (local rain!) will stop. I'll look for name on copper wire spool. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:03 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) Dear Listers, Please read over the Kolb-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The complete Kolb-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ] This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm ************************************************************ ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ******* ************************************************************ PLEASE READ. This document contains Kolb-List policies and information for new and old subscribers. Understanding the Kolb-List policies will minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the Kolb-List running smoothly for all of us. ****************************************** *** Quick Start Guide to List Features *** ****************************************** There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this List. 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The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post until you receive the second conformation email message. ***************************** *** How to Post a Message *** ***************************** Send an email message to: kolb-list@matronics.com Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed to the List. ***************************************************** *** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post *** ***************************************************** When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor. If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that gets posted to the Lists. Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List: smith@machine.domain.com smith@domain.com Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to the List. ************************************** *** Enclosure Support on the Lists *** ************************************** Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the content of enclosures. These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists: 1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists. 2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists. 3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site. 4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives. 5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature. 6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed: bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk. 7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down the process of posting the message !! Here are some rules for posting enclosures. 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This is a great utility - get it, use it! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx Look for the link "Image Resizer" 3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother. And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even questionable. !! 4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS! Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server for long time viewing and availability. ******************* *** Digest Mode *** ******************* Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started. 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Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that post and convert it into a Wiki page. ********************* *** List Archives *** ********************* A file containing of all of the previous postings to the Kolb-List is available on line. The archive file information is available via the Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below: * Kolb-List.FAQ - Latest version of the Kolb-List Frequently Asked Question page (this document). * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete - Complete file with most of the email header info removed and page breaks inserted between messages. * Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-?? - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that can more easily handled. * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete.zip - Same as the Kolb-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods. * Kolb-Archive.digest.complete.Z - Same as the Kolb-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods. Download Via FTP ---------------- The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.) ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives Download Via Web ---------------- The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found toward the bottom of the following web page: http://www.matronics.com/archives ****************************************** *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing *** ****************************************** All messages posted to the Kolb-List are also available using the Email List Archive Browsing feature. 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Kolb-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:29 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Kolb-List: Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines Dear Listers, Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Kolb-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Kolb-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Kolb-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. 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