---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/02/07: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:33 AM - Re: New website (Thom Riddle) 2. 05:45 AM - Re: Re: New website (knowvne@aol.com) 3. 07:41 AM - Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 4. 07:54 AM - Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III (George Alexander) 5. 12:54 PM - Re: Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III (N27SB@aol.com) 6. 02:59 PM - Hose Clamps (frank & margie) 7. 03:20 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (possums) 8. 03:33 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (John Hauck) 9. 04:11 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Beauford T) 10. 05:32 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Southern Reflections) 11. 05:37 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Southern Reflections) 12. 06:02 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Craig Nelson) 13. 07:10 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (Charlie England) 14. 07:52 PM - Re: Hose Clamps (John Hauck) 15. 07:58 PM - Landing distances () 16. 08:50 PM - Re: Landing distances (knowvne@aol.com) 17. 09:01 PM - Re: Landing distances () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:44 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New website From: "Thom Riddle" Speaking of logos... Here is my newly acquired logo that represents life as I see it. No, it is not directly Kolb related but it does have to do with the care and feeding of things that fly :-). Thom in Buffalo do not archive -------- Thom in Buffalo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98276#98276 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/nevergiveup_169.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New website From: knowvne@aol.com HAHAHAAHAHAHA GOOD ONE THOM 8-) Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: jtriddle@adelphia.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New website Speaking of logos... Here is my newly acquired logo that represents life as I see it. No, it is not directly Kolb related but it does have to do with the care and feeding of things that fly :-). Thom in Buffalo do not archive -------- Thom in Buffalo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98276#98276 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/nevergiveup_169.jpg ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:15 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III From: "Flyboy7" "Flyboy7" wrote: << ... how to trailer. I've got mixed emotions about open trailering for longer distances ... I'm looking for ideas on what others are doing. Does anyone have photos of their trailers or a web site to look at? >> Hi, Alex - Welcome to the Kolb List! I frequently transport my Mark-III on an open trailer. Last May, I trailered it from Albuquerque to Monument Valley, to attend our annual "Kolb Unofficial, Unorganized Monument Valley Fly-In." About 450 miles each way. The Kolb did fine. My arrangement has the nose pointing forward. If you secure it properly, to prevent flight surfaces from flapping and keep the wings from swaying back & forth, your Kolb will do just fine on an open trailer. I built a special fuselage support dolly for my plane that also has padded saddles to support the wings. It sits on an old tire on the trailer deck to help absorb road vibration. Someone on this List (I do not remember who) has collected various pictures of Kolbs on trailers, and has posted them on his website. (Can anyone provide this website?) Also, check the archives - there was much discussion on this topic last October. Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul, 65 hrs tt Cedar Crest, NM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:42 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III From: "George Alexander" Dennis, Alex(?), et al: Trailer stuff: http://gtalexander.home.att.net Click on "Trailering a Kolb" Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland. wrote: > Someone on this List (I do not remember who) has collected various > pictures of Kolbs on trailers, and has posted them on his website. (Can > anyone provide this website?) > Dennis Kirby > Mark-III, 912ul, 65 hrs tt > Cedar Crest, NM -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98304#98304 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:53 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Need trailer ideas for transporting a Kolb Mark III Hi Alex, I have an all aluminum trailer that I put together for my firefly for SnF two years ago that I am not using. contact me offlist if yu are interested steve


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:38 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps REF; There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine homebuilt) for years. I'll try to find a link if you want it. Charlie ------------------------------------------- I'd like to have the link! Thanks, Frank Clyma ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:15 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps At 05:58 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote: >REF; > >There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a >ring of heat shrink tubing. > >I'll try to find a link if you want it. >Charlie >------------------------------------------- > >I'd like to have the link! ME too...really! Used all the others, wire, clamps, straps, snapclamps, etc. Speaking of logos... then again, maybe not. do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:27 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps Possum: Been a "possum" for some years now. When am I going to get my secret pass word and hand shake? Been trying to be patient, but about waited long enough. What if I meet another possum and don't have my stuff together? john "possum" h hauck's holler, alabama mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:53 PM PST US From: "Beauford T" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps Gents: Password...? Handshake...? Have always heard that true "Possums" can meet in the middle of a 40 acre field, at midnight, on a moonless night, and instantly establish one another's bonafides by merely "sniffing" one another....(Not further specified...) If you two "Possums" should set out to test this hypothesis, by all means call me first... Would be well worth the drive up from Florida to observe... By the way... what's this got to do with hose clamps, anyway...? ....no... don't answer that....... Beauford Brandon, FL FF#076 DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:33 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps > > > Possum: > > Been a "possum" for some years now. > > When am I going to get my secret pass word and hand shake? > > Been trying to be patient, but about waited long enough. What if I > meet another possum and don't have my stuff together? > > john "possum" h > hauck's holler, alabama > mkIII > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:12 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps If they were brains ,she would be a genius... ----- Original Message ----- Joe N101HD From: possums To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps At 05:58 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote: REF; There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a ring of heat shrink tubing. I'll try to find a link if you want it. Charlie ------------------------------------------- I'd like to have the link! ME too...really! Used all the others, wire, clamps, straps, snapclamps, etc. Speaking of logos... then again, maybe not. do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:17 PM PST US From: "Southern Reflections" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps I'll go with you and half the gas...JoeN101HD P S L FLA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beauford T" Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps > > Gents: > Password...? Handshake...? Have always heard that true "Possums" can > meet in the middle of a 40 acre field, at midnight, on a moonless night, > and instantly establish one another's bonafides by merely "sniffing" one > another....(Not further specified...) If you two "Possums" should set out > to test this hypothesis, by all means call me first... Would be well > worth the drive up from Florida to observe... > > By the way... what's this got to do with hose clamps, anyway...? ....no... > don't answer that....... > > Beauford > Brandon, FL > FF#076 > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hauck" > To: > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:33 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps > > >> >> >> Possum: >> >> Been a "possum" for some years now. >> >> When am I going to get my secret pass word and hand shake? >> >> Been trying to be patient, but about waited long enough. What if I >> meet another possum and don't have my stuff together? >> >> john "possum" h >> hauck's holler, alabama >> mkIII >> >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:23 PM PST US Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps From: "Craig Nelson" Best looking hose clamps I've seen.might want to archive that. The jacket is not bad ether Uncle craig Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps At 05:58 PM 3/2/2007, you wrote: REF; There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a ring of heat shrink tubing. I'll try to find a link if you want it. Charlie ------------------------------------------- I'd like to have the link! ME too...really! Used all the others, wire, clamps, straps, snapclamps, etc. Speaking of logos... then again, maybe not. do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:55 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps frank & margie wrote: > *REF;* > ** > There's a relatively new 'clamp' for silicone hose that's basically a > ring of heat shrink tubing. I think that it's made by Gates. A friend > has been flying with it on his radiator hoses (alternative engine > homebuilt) for years. > > I'll try to find a link if you want it. > > Charlie > ------------------------------------------- > > I'd like to have the link! > > Thanks, > Frank Clyma > Remember, this is for coolant hose. Smallest dia listed is 1/2". Go to http://www.mcmaster.com/ & type 'hose clamp' in the search engine, then click 'coolant hose clamps'. It should jump to the plastic shrink to fit hose clamps. For just a little reality check, there's now a hose for something like 250 psi that doesn't require a clamp; just uses the retention of the barbs to hold it on the connector. Charlie ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:00 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Hose Clamps Have always heard that true "Possums" can | meet in the middle of a 40 acre field, at midnight, on a moonless night, and | instantly establish one another's bonafides by merely "sniffing" one | another....(Not further specified...) | | Beauford Beauford: You're talking about ground bound possums. We is flying possums. Don 't do no sniffing. We have a secret hand shake and pass word. Well,..........I believe I am supposed to have them. Right now, all I have is my airplane and possum shirt. And I am proud of both. john h mkIII Official Possum ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:17 PM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: Landing distances After some careful, but not scientifically accurate, measurements, I've determined the following for my aircraft: Min takeoff: 400' Min landing: 500' Realistic takeoff: 500' Realistic landing: 600' This is in a Kolb Mark II with a Rotax 503, flying consistently at gross weight of 750 lbs. I do have brakes, but they're the go-cart cable type and hardly effective. They're not useful on landings or for short field takeoff technique, only for slowing down while taxiing. How do these compare to what the rest of you experience? -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / N722KM Rochester MI ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Landing distances From: knowvne@aol.com Really! 500 ft for landing??? Two foot ball fields end to end ??? I would have thought less... Is this also the case for a Firestar II ???? The KOLB site doesn't list the landing distance but has take off at 200 ft with a 503... Do we assume at Gross weight ? How far off are these figure???? 8-/ Thanks! Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: kfackler@ameritech.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Landing distances After some careful, but not scientifically accurate, measurements, I've determined the following for my aircraft: Min takeoff: 400' Min landing: 500' Realistic takeoff: 500' Realistic landing: 600' This is in a Kolb Mark II with a Rotax 503, flying consistently at gross weight of 750 lbs. I do have brakes, but they're the go-cart cable type and hardly effective. They're not useful on landings or for short field takeoff technique, only for slowing down while taxiing. How do these compare to what the rest of you experience? -Ken Fackler Kolb Mark II / N722KM Rochester MI ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:21 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Landing distances > Really! 500 ft for landing??? > The KOLB site doesn't list the landing distance but has take off at 200 ft with a 503 > Do we assume at Gross weight ? Like most mfgs of any sort of product, I'm sure they put the figures out that have the most "wow" factor. Not to say they're wrong, but they probably were generated under the most favorable conditions imaginable: a very light ship with a very light pilot carrying a gallon or two of fuel on a low DA day and with a stiff headwind. Don't get me wrong, I love my Kolb! But as you say, what's realistic? I don't claim to be a 'hot stick' so it's quite possible others can fly their ships at slow enough speeds, and possibly with some help from flaps which I don't have, and get it slow enough to stop much more quickly. But that's why I asked, to see what others are doing. -Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.