---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/04/07: 38 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:53 AM - Re: Landing distances (David Lucas) 2. 06:45 AM - Re: RPM drop (jimhefner) 3. 07:16 AM - Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 4. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (John Hauck) 5. 07:38 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (DAquaNut@aol.com) 6. 08:28 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 7. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 8. 10:05 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (Jim Baker) 9. 10:55 AM - Re: Hose Clamps (Paul Petty) 10. 11:05 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 11. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (John Hauck) 12. 11:18 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (Bob Noyer) 13. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 14. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop/Bosch Spark Plugs (John Hauck) 15. 01:18 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (Richard Pike) 16. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (knowvne@aol.com) 17. 02:27 PM - NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (John H Murphy) 18. 02:54 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Richard Pike) 19. 02:59 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (John Hauck) 20. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop/Bosch Spark Plugs (DAquaNut@aol.com) 21. 04:46 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Paul Petty) 22. 05:04 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Richard Pike) 23. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (Jim Baker) 24. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: RPM Drop (Jim Baker) 25. 05:13 PM - Re: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Richard Pike) 26. 05:32 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Jim Baker) 27. 05:40 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (John H Murphy) 28. 06:12 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (John Hauck) 29. 06:18 PM - carburetor rebuilt schedule (John H Murphy) 30. 06:22 PM - Re: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (John Hauck) 31. 06:26 PM - Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule (John Hauck) 32. 06:35 PM - Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? (Richard Pike) 33. 07:11 PM - Re: Landing distances (lndc) 34. 07:41 PM - Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule (Roger Lee) 35. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Winter high speed taxi (LEE CREECH) 36. 07:54 PM - Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule (John Hauck) 37. 07:56 PM - Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule (John Hauck) 38. 10:16 PM - RPM Drop (frank & margie) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Landing distances From: "David Lucas" Reminds me of landing at one of the jungle strips I used to fly into in Papua New Guinea years back. It had an upslope on it with the parking bay about two thirds of the way up the strip, but that last third was almost level so you could actually land downhill if you were lightly loaded, providing you put it down right at the threshold and jumped on the brakes. The Pilatus Porter turbo prop with beta range and reverse thrust could stop before the turn off but the rest of us in our 206's, aztecs, etc usually went past a bit and had to turn around and taxy back. It developed into an unofficial short landing contest with the winner being acknowledged at the bar the next evening. There was one of those push/pull twin boom cessna 337's (I think) made an approach there one day, first day out after major maintenance. He touched down right on the mark and stopped short of the turn off ! Fantastic stuff. Won the prize that week. Slight problem though, the reason for the short landing roll was that is was not a roll, but a skid ! He'd forgotten to put the gear down and the back of the drag curve, full flap approach required enough power that it did not not to trigger the warning horn. It turns out he had been flying the fixed gear version, the 336, earlier in the day.... oops ! The competition was called off after that as it was thought nobody could trump that effort .... particularly as it was the chief pilot at the time who did it !!!! [Embarassed] Cest la vie ....... and no it wasn't me ! David. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98615#98615 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:13 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: RPM drop From: "jimhefner" If you want to loose plug problems altogether, put BR8EV or BR8EIX's in your 2 cycle Rotax that uses B8ES plugs.... the R doesn't matter with those plugs. I was changing B8ES's every 10 hrs when I first flew the Firefly in 2002. At that time there were only BR8EV (Palladium) plugs available from NGK. After installing them I changed plugs at 75 hrs as a preventative measure, even though it was still starting on the first or 2nd pull and running perfect and they looked great.... I'm sure I could have run them 100hrs with no problem. Now the Iridium plugs (IX) have pretty much replaced palladium and are as good or better but I sold my plane before getting much time on them. These plugs are more expensive ($7 or $8 apiece) than B8ES's, but there's a reason for that.... they perform much better and last way longer. I did the same thing on my motorcycle and am seeing the same results... much better cold weather starting too. The small electrode must have something to do with it.... more concentrated spark I suspect but I'm no expert on plugs, just know from experience that these work much better and last a lot longer than the B8ES's. -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98635#98635 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:17 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com Regarding spark plugs for the 503 This is off the Aero Propulsions Web site.. Spark Plugs: The recommended spark plugs are the NGK B8ES or BR8ES. The "R" denotes a resistance which helps suppress radio interference. The use of spark plugs with a solid tip, rather than the screwed-on tip, is mandatory. The latter can unscrew itself in flight and dislodge the spark plug connector cap, creating an ignition failure. Spark plug gap: Allowable range: 0.4-0.5mm / .016-.020"Optimal: 0.45mm / .018" The gap can be reduced to its allowable minimum to help starting in very cold conditions Things to be avoided: Other spark plug models and other manufacturers' equivalents Screwed-on tips Unverified spark plug gaps WHAT IS SEA FOAM? SOUNDS LIKE AN OIL FOR USE ON MOTORS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE... YES / NO Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: DAquaNut@aol.com Sent: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RPM Drop In a message dated 2/28/2007 6:49:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, frank-margie@worldnet.att.net writes: My 503 DCDI is real sensitive to plug gap------try resetting the plugs to .016. I use NGK BR8ES, and replace at 25 hours. I've also seen plugs that wouldn't fire as strong if they'd been wet, as in flooded engine or lots of preservative oil. Frank Clyma Orange Park, FL Frank, I went to the hangar today. I put seafoam into the back cylinder and let it soak while I replaced my strobe light. I then ran the 447 on the plugs that were in it already. My RPMs were at 6030 tied down. That was up from 5970. I put in new BR8ES plugs and fired her up.She went right on up to 6270 rpms. That is only 20 rpms less than what I got when I originaly set the IVO. Ran great on the way to another airstrip about 9 miles away. The old plugs were very clean looking with a hint of light brown grey on them, but the new plugs bumped the rpms up another 240 . You were right on! Thanks for your input! Ed (ff 62 running strong for the moment) -------- AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:03 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop | | Mark Vaughn Mark: An aphrodisiac for two strokes. Folks: Please try to cut the previous msgs so we do not have to wade through pages of stuff we have already read. I think the instructions are in Matt Dralle's guide for Kolb List Usage. Thanks, john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:38 AM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop In a message dated 3/4/2007 9:16:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, knowvne@aol.com writes: WHAT IS SEA FOAM? SOUNDS LIKE AN OIL FOR USE ON MOTORS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE... YES / NO YES Please no more questions about on seafoam on the list even though it is a little slow right now. It is supposed to be a carbon remover, There is a lot about it in the archives. Some swear by it, but the subject has been ridden pretty hard, and is a sore subject to some on the list . I dont want to be flamed for starting anything! Ed Do Not Archive


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com John H. My apologies.... Clearly this 2 stroke Aphrodisiac has gotten you too hot and bothered to answer the question... 8-) Ignorant 2 2 strokes Mark Vaughn ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com Thanks Ed No worries of being flamed from me... I'm absorbing as much as I can from these topics.. BTW Those who have a Thread issue also own a Delete Key... 8-) HEY HERE'S A THOUGHT If this lists purpose is to inform pilots then shouldn't it be used to inform ALL PILOTS and not just those who ALREADY know it all ???? 8-) ALL types are sitting around this digital camp fire... ED here's a cold one... Toss another log on the fire I'm truly absorbing the warmth of the topics... Thanks again 8-) Ignorant to 2 strokes Mark WHAT IS SEA FOAM? SOUNDS LIKE AN OIL FOR USE ON MOTORS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE... YES / NO YES Please nomore questions about on seafoamon the list even though it is a little slow right now. It is supposed to be a carbon remover, There is a lot about it in the archives. Some swear by it, but the subject has beenridden pretty hard, and is a sore subject to some on the list. I dont want to beflamed for starting anything! Ed ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:57 AM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) > The recommended spark plugs are....... Recommended...... > The use of spark plugs with a solid tip, rather than the screwed-on tip, > is mandatory. Slightly deform the screw on cap in a vice and screw it on....it won't come off. > Things to be avoided: > Other spark plug models and other manufacturers' equivalents Screwed-on > tips Unverified spark plug gaps Don't see why.....heat range is the driver here, not mfg, model, composition, etc. I've got over 300 hrs on a set of plugs (not the mfg recommeded ones, either) that look like they're from a four stroke. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:40 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hose Clamps From: "Paul Petty" I sell and used these on my Kolbra/912. Nice and clean looking. http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=927&location_id=546 -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98678#98678 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com Hi Jim Please don't shoot the Messenger...... I was merely listing what I found on the Aero Propulsion website... To be honest I don't know why we can't just install Glow Plugs and use Diesel 8-) HAHAHAHA SHOWS YA WHAT I KNOW .. 8-) ignorant 2 2 strokes..... Mark -----Original Message----- From: jlbaker@msbit.net To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop > The recommended spark plugs are....... Recommended...... > The use of spark plugs with a solid tip, rather than the screwed-on tip, > is mandatory. Slightly deform the screw on cap in a vice and screw it on....it won't come off. > Things to be avoided: > Other spark plug models and other manufacturers' equivalents Screwed-on > tips Unverified spark plug gaps Don't see why.....heat range is the driver here, not mfg, model, composition, etc. I've got over 300 hrs on a set of plugs (not the mfg recommeded ones, either) that look like they're from a four stroke. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:09:41 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop | composition, etc. I've got over 300 hrs on a set of plugs (not the | mfg recommeded ones, either) that look like they're from a four | stroke. | | | Jim Baker Jim B: Just an added note. Be careful switching brands of spark plugs with different brands of spark plug wire caps. I ran into a problem with Bosch plugs many years ago, when they first came out with a platinum tip plug. Great! A plug that would be better than the BR8EV and for a fraction of the cost. Plug worked great, but not with the NGK plug wire cap. Had to get some Bosch plug wire caps that were molded to match the ribs on the Bosch plugs. This kept the caps from wobbling around on the spark plug. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:07 AM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop Mark, Just ck the archives for SeaFoam threads...there are a bunch. And , yes, it's alleged to be a high colonic for carbon-encrusted 2-strokes. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com Another Great FYI Thanks John... Be careful switching brands of spark plugs with different brands of spark plug wire caps. I ran into a problem with Bosch plugs many years ago, when they first came out with a platinum tip plug. Great! A plug that would be better than the BR8EV and for a fraction of the cost. I wonder if the Rotax manufacture ever does Bench tests using such suggestions to see if it effects or improves their products performance???? After all it says EXPERMENTAL on the plane NOT the MOTOR 8-) Ignorant 2 2 strokes Mark ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:29 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop/Bosch Spark Plugs Mark: Eric Tucker, Rotax two and four stroke "guru" explained to us in the last class I attended a year ago, that Rotax had a difficult time maintainer suppliers for any length of time. For example, the question was asked, "Why doesn't Rotax put fuel injection on its 912 series engines?" Answer was, lack of a supplier that would stay the course. It cost a great deal to certify an engine and its accessories, which does not affect us UL and experimenters, but does cost them a mint for their certified line. Uncertified parts for Rotax are the same as certified except the certified part has a serial number to track it, and ours don't. Rotax has been using NGK plugs since the very early years. I had good luck with Bosch WR4CP Platinum plugs and metal jacketed Boxch plug wires for a 4 cyl Volvo, about 1975 vintage. Back in the mid 80's that would make two sets of wires for a 447. Now it will make one set of wires for a 503 or 582. Probably still available and cheaper than Rotax supplied parts. This plug worked great on my 447. Never fouled another plug after I started using them and they lasted a very long time. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:34 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop Not a good idea at all. The problem is not making it stay on, the problem is that you are using aluminum in a place that requires steel. The solid top spark plugs have a steel top, while the screw on spark plug tops are aluminum. The problem arises when the Rotax plug cap is snapped onto the aluminum spark plug top. There is a hard steel spring wire in the Rotax plug cap which holds it on and provides continuity. When it is snapped over the aluminum plug top, the engine vibration causes it to quickly eat it's way into the aluminum. Even though you deform the screw-on aluminum top, it is still going to be chewed up/worn away in a way that the solid steel spark plug top will not. You will end up with a Rotax plug cap full of aluminum dust and a wobbly poor connection. Eventually you will have to buy a new Rotax plug cap because the aluminum crud will ruin it. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Baker" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop The use of spark plugs with a solid tip, rather than the screwed-on tip, is mandatory. Slightly deform the screw on cap in a vice and screw it on....it won't come off. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:06:16 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop From: knowvne@aol.com Thanks Bob... Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: a58r@verizon.net Sent: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop Mark, Just ck the archives for SeaFoam threads...there are a bunch. And , yes, it's alleged to be a high colonic for carbon-encrusted 2-strokes. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? From: "John H Murphy" I'm a little confused about which NGK plug works "best" in the Rotax engine. What are the upsides and downsides of the resistor type BR8ES NGK Spark Plug? I'm figuring the upside is the ability to reduce noise in my radio. Am I trading off noise for a less reliable spark plug? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98708#98708 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:54:53 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? Probably not less reliable. If it was less reliable, Rotax wouldn't tell you to use it. But the hotter a spark I can have, that's what I want. If I don't need a resistor plug, then I won't use one. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John H Murphy" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? > > I'm a little confused about which NGK plug works "best" in the Rotax > engine. What are the upsides and downsides of the resistor type BR8ES NGK > Spark Plug? I'm figuring the upside is the ability to reduce noise in my > radio. Am I trading off noise for a less reliable spark plug? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98708#98708 > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:36 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? Spark Plug? I'm figuring the upside is the ability to reduce noise in my radio. Am I trading off noise for a less reliable spark plug? John M: There is not enough difference in performance between resistor and non-resistor plugs to measure. Most engines are equipped with resistor plugs. I know the 912 series engines are factory equipped with resistor plugs. Rotax would not install a spark plug that was less reliable than another, especially in a two stroke. The NGK resistor plugs and Rotax have been operating many, many successful hours. What does Rotax put in the two strokes now days? My 2 cents worth. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:06 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop/Bosch Spark Plugs John, My 447 came from with factory with BR8ES and that is what my manual recommends. Ed


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? From: "Paul Petty" But the hotter a spark I can have, that's what I want Brother Richard, The heat range of a spark plug does not refrance the heat of the spark but rather the heat transfer of the spark plug to the cly head as Eric Tucker explained to me in the 4 stroke school If i remember it correctly :D -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie painting and reassembly Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98728#98728 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:19 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? Assuming that you have an ignition system in perfect condition, I'm sure it's not worth measuring. But if one of us might some day have the remarkable misfortune to have an ignition system that is putting out less than it should, (Unthinkable! Rotax ignition systms are surely failure proof) or leave a spark plug in too long and let it get cruddy (Never happen, GI) then you might be glad to have as little resistance in your system as possible. Especially if you don't need it, which is my whole point. Here is a link to the difference between resistor vs non-resistor plugs: http://www.ultralightnews.com/enginetroublshooting/resistorcapsandplugs.htm Here is a line to the CPS tech page on plugs http://www.800-airwolf.com/pdffiles/ARTICLES/part9.pdf -which says that using both a resistor cap and a resistor plug can cause problems. And which I have experienced in the past. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) PS: I know perfectly well what Rotax puts in two strokes these days, just as I know what stock Kolbs are like. But if that is all that matters, why do any of us change anything? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? > > Spark Plug? I'm figuring the upside is the ability to reduce noise in > my radio. Am I trading off noise for a less reliable spark plug? > > John M: > > There is not enough difference in performance between resistor and > non-resistor plugs to measure. Most engines are equipped with > resistor plugs. I know the 912 series engines are factory equipped > with resistor plugs. Rotax would not install a spark plug that was > less reliable than another, especially in a two stroke. The NGK > resistor plugs and Rotax have been operating many, many successful > hours. > > What does Rotax put in the two strokes now days? > > My 2 cents worth. > > john h > mkIII > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:50 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) > Be careful switching brands of spark plugs with different brands of > spark plug wire caps. Ah, tis true. Too bad we just can't graft on a set of full length silicone boots..... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:50 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: RPM Drop X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) > Please don't shoot the Messenger...... > I was merely listing what I found on the Aero Propulsion website... Didn't mean to slam a door on you, such was not my intent, tho it sure sounded that way when I re-read my reply. My apologies. Often, advice from such sites must be evaluated critically. > ignorant 2 2 strokes..... Mark May I recommend.... http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/jennings.htm Kinda hard to read since it's just page images but the info is all there from one of the leading two-stroke practitioners..... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:13:31 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? This is correct. A hot spark is a spark that I can see jump a big gap in the daylight as opposed to a cold spark that is so wimpy it can only be seen in the dark, and may or may not fire the plug. Having a hot spark has nothing to do with heat range. Apples and oranges. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Petty" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? > > But the hotter a spark I can have, that's what I want > > Brother Richard, > > The heat range of a spark plug does not refrance the heat of the spark but > rather the heat transfer of the spark plug to the cly head as Eric Tucker > explained to me in the 4 stroke school If i remember it correctly :D > > -------- > Paul Petty > Kolbra #12 > Ms Dixie > painting and reassembly > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98728#98728 > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:32:45 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) > But the hotter a spark I can have, that's what I want. If I don't need a > resistor plug, then I won't use one. God's-own-Lightning would be a welcome change from the anemic flicker we now enjoy. Just look at plugs taken from a modern coil-on-plug vehicle when the owner actually takes the 100,000 mile plug replacement interval as gospel...electrodes are probably absent and/or reduced to nubbins but still light the fires reliably....not efficently, but still...... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:41 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? From: "John H Murphy" I was impressed with the CPS article on plugs. I think I'm going to order some non resistor plugs just in case. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98738#98738 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:37 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? | MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) | | PS: I know perfectly well what Rotax puts in two strokes these days, just as | I know what stock Kolbs are like. But if that is all that matters, why do | any of us change anything? Richard: The CDI is super hot. If you let a plug get cruddy enough to foul, it ain't gonna make any difference if it is resistor or not. Now days, if you foul a plug, you better not be flying cause you got a serious problem. Now..............if you want to fly with a non resistor plug. Great!!! I prefer resistor. You probably light up the airport when you crank. john h mkIII PS: I will sleep better tonight because you know what comes in Rotax and stock Kolbs. However, to change something for nothing can not be too gratifying. I have certainly done that many times when I found out my idea did not work as I thought it would. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:18:29 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: carburetor rebuilt schedule From: "John H Murphy" How often does one rebuild a carburetor? My engine is how 7 to 8 years old, Rotax 503 DCDI with 190 hours. The carbs work fine as far as I can see. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98743#98743 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:22:07 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? order some non resistor plugs just in case. | John M: You might check the date on the CPS publication. Sounds to me like it was written back in the early days when we were flying with point ign and not CDI which fires through peanut butter. As far as California Power Systems goes, they have a a lot of articles written by Mike Stratman who owns the company and makes lots of money selling you all parts whether you need them or not. If you have questions reference Rotax engines, why not check with the source, Rotax? That's what I do. A CDI system either works or doesn't work. There is no in between like the old point system. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:35 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: carburetor rebuilt schedule John M: Usually, the parts that wear in a two and four stroke carb are the little tangs on the floats, the little arms on the float lever, the posts the floats ride on. Also the enricher valve. I check mine periodically. If they look pretty worn, I replace the worn part. Don't do it very often though cause Bing parts are out of sight. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:06 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? Yeah, it's so super hot we have to run a plug gap of .020 max Whoo Hoo My wife's motorcycle runs a bigger spark gap... And as far as lighting up the airport? If I can't hear hash on my home made recycled radio system, why should I think it would bother other people with a good system? Anyway, no complaints in ten years. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: NGK Spark Plugs - resistor or not? > > Richard: > > The CDI is super hot. > I prefer resistor. > snip> > You probably light up the airport when you crank. > > john h > mkIII > ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:37 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Landing distances From: "lndc" Hi, I used to own an original firestar with a 377. Take off was never over 125'. Landing about the same maybe a little longer. Dan Charter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98751#98751 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 07:41:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule From: "Roger Lee" Hi All, The manual says every 200 hrs. for the 912uls and the rebuild kit cost $214 for the pair from CPS. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98758#98758 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:32 PM PST US From: "LEE CREECH" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Winter high speed taxi I second the opinion on the fairing. I've always wondered why someone doesn't design a fairing for the 503 in a Firestar-type installation. Seems like you could pick up 10 or 15 mph, considering how draggy the unfaired engine appears to be. Lee Firestar II >From: "JetPilot" >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Winter high speed taxi >Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 13:58:22 -0800 > > >Great pictures. That engine fairing looks really cool on the MK-III. >Makes me want to go flying :) > >Mike > >-------- >"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you >could have !!! > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98546#98546 > > _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule From: "John Hauck" Roger L: I'd go broke rebuilding carbs if I built them every 200 hours. More realistically, take a look at them every 200 hours. Also of extreme importance for two and four stroke carbs is to pull the float bowl and check for water and contamination. A drop of water will turn into a lot of crud that can shut down a two or four stroke. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98764#98764 ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:16 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: carburetor rebuilt schedule From: "John Hauck" Forgot to mention, check those float bowls at least every couple weeks. At the longest once a month. -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=98766#98766 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:26 PM PST US From: "frank & margie" Subject: Kolb-List: RPM Drop REF: I went to the hangar today. I put seafoam into the back cylinder and let it soak while I replaced my strobe light. I then ran the 447 on the plugs that were in it already. My RPMs were at 6030 tied down. That was up from 5970. I put in new BR8ES plugs and fired her up.She went right on up to 6270 rpms. That is only 20 rpms less than what I got when I originaly set the IVO. Ran great on the way to another airstrip about 9 miles away. The old plugs were very clean looking with a hint of light brown grey on them, but the new plugs bumped the rpms up another 240 . You were right on! Thanks for your input! ----------------------------------------------- Ed, Sometimes it is simple, glad it worked. I've got to try Richard Pike's non-resistor plug idea too, would be great if it would work for me. (I may experiment with his safety wire clamps again also, maybe my tubing was old or below par. Richard's web site is full of good info!) 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