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1. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: kolb rolls (Todd Fredricks)
2. 09:51 AM - Rebuilding Fuel Pump (TheWanderingWench)
3. 10:29 AM - Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump (John Hauck)
4. 10:43 AM - Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump (Dana Hague)
5. 11:37 AM - Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator (boyd)
6. 12:38 PM - SlingShot on E-Bay (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 12:41 PM - flying video's (Larry Cottrell)
8. 12:46 PM - Re: radio noise (Larry Cottrell)
9. 12:56 PM - Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump (Wayne Boyter)
10. 01:00 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (John Hauck)
11. 01:04 PM - Re: flying video's (John Hauck)
12. 02:02 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (N27SB@AOL.COM)
13. 05:47 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (Ron)
14. 06:10 PM - Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator (Bob Noyer)
15. 06:16 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (Kolbdriver)
16. 06:22 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (John Hauck)
17. 07:01 PM - Kolb model differences (Dana Hague)
18. 07:06 PM - Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator (JRatcli256@aol.com)
19. 07:34 PM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (Dave Bigelow)
20. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (John Hauck)
21. 08:19 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (Ron)
22. 08:56 PM - having some fun (David Key)
23. 09:10 PM - Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator (Larry Bourne)
24. 09:12 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (Ed Chmielewski)
25. 09:30 PM - Re: SlingShot on E-Bay (Richard Pike)
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I want to know more about the whole "Best hand-launched parachute" incident.
Todd
On 3/13/07 6:21 AM, "tc1917" <tc1917@hughes.net> wrote:
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>
> I just have to answer to this one about kolbs not being able to roll.
> Although I did not witness this, I have it from very reliable sources that
> there is a guy, Ronnie, from around Prattville, Alabama. He had a
> beautiful, simple, light as could be, Kolb slingshot. In front of hundreds
> of witnesses, he took off from Smiths Station, Alabama during an airshow
> there and shortly after take-off, rolled the buggy. He did loops, hammer
> heads, etc all the time. He stood too close to the prop one day and chunked
> his back and shoulder really good and was out of the flying game for a long
> time. He has another type aircraft at this time and is still hot doggin
> around. If you have never flown a slingshot, as I have for many years now,
> you just dont understand how completely maneuverable this plane is. If you
> move the stick, it has already done it. It is the most docile plane in
> bumps, humps, and cross winds. It will shake those little 22 foot wings a
> little and keep on truckin. Drop the flapperons and land in less than three
> hundred feet any time you want. I have set it down and stopped in less than
> a hundred and fifty feet and this was with the motor still running. I just
> know I could stop it in less than seventy five without an engine and still
> fly it out. Soooo, to all you that say a Kolb cant roll -- you better check
> out the Sling shot for it is the most bestest plane you will ever get your
> paws on. I wish I had a pic. You guys that drive the other little Kolb
> probably know what I am talking about but it still aint as quick as the
> Slingshot. Ted Cowan, Alabama. oh, yeah, plus the cruise is an easy 85 if
> you would like with a 582!!
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| Subject: | Rebuilding Fuel Pump |
How often do you folks like to rebuild/replace your
fuel pump? (I've got a 503 DCDI.)
This was a topic at our last club meeting, and Roger
Hankins and I are also discussing it - so I thought
I'd throw it out to this list.
Arty Trost
Sandy, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump |
| fuel pump?
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| Arty Trost
Arty:
I have an old Kubota tractor with a Mikuni impulse fuel pump just like
the one you fly with. It is about 30 years old and has about 3000
hours on it. It is still pumping, every time I crank the little
Kubota.
Of course, the Kubota lives in a different world than the Mikuni on
your Rotax. It also pumps diesel and not gasoline. If the Kubota
quits, no sweat.
I can not remember how often I changed out or overhauled Mikuni fuel
pumps back in the day when I was flying two strokes. Every couple
years or so. They are extremely reliable. Three parts: Top half,
diaphram, and bottom half. About the only thing to wear out is the
diaphram which also acts as the gasket.
How much does the overhaul kit cost?
Make sure it is genuine Mikuni. LEAF was selling a kit many years ago
that was not Mikuni. I had a forced landing the first flight after I
overhauled my fuel pump at the Flight Farm, Monterey, NY, 1989. Put
the old diaphram back in, flew to OSH, and home to Alabama. BTW:
LEAF grudeonly refunded my money for my fuel pump kit.
Don't think I answered your question.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump |
At 01:29 PM 3/15/2007, John Hauck wrote:
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>Make sure it is genuine Mikuni. LEAF was selling a kit many years ago
>that was not Mikuni. I had a forced landing the first flight after I
>overhauled my fuel pump...
The pumps are so cheap doesn't it just make more sense to replace the
entire pump than to rebuild it?
OTOH... the previous owner of my US made a forced landing (fortunately on
the airport, but he still broke a gear leg) when the brand new fuel pump
he'd just installed failed. Apparently it had been sitting on the shelf
for some time, and the diaphragm had dried out.
He actually did pretty good considering it was about his third solo flight
in any kind of airplane (he's got a lot of PPC and gyro time, and prefers
the gyro, which is why he sold the US to me).
-Dana
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| Subject: | Fuel Filter / Water Seperator |
Hi gang,
Considering installing a Racor Fuel Filter/Water Separator in place of
regular fuel filter.
Normal Mister Funnel and preflight fuel samplesshould take care of fuel
source and condensation problems, but with ethanol fuels in our future would
this be enough?
Water and alcohol mix quite readily. Would a water filter tend to separate
the alcohol along with the water from the rest of the fuel?Could a
water/alcohol emulsified mixture get by normal fuel checks?
Not worth worrying about?
Would like to hear general comments and as well as from those who may be
using this type of filter.
John Ratcliffe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If we get a small percent of alcohol in our gas.... then we will have no
concern for water in the gas..... unless we get more water than alcohol
in our systems.... a water alcohol mix of 50 - 50 will mix and burn
without problems in our fuel.... the water wont separate out until the
water is greater than 50 % compared to the alcohol in the fuel. to check
for alcohol in the gas is quite easy... fill a test tube 1/2 full with
water, then draw a line,,, then fill it the rest of the way with gas,
shake it up and let it settle. The difference between the line and the
water / gas line is the amount of alcohol. Now to test for the purity
of the alcohol will take a bit more time but is done in near the same
way.... fill the test tube to the first line with gas.... slowly put in
drops of water and shake between drops. When you first start noticing water
in the bottom of the test tube, you will know how much water the alcohol in
the gas will absorb before it starts to settle out.
For example... if you have a test tube marked from 0 to 150 CC... fill it
to 100 with gas... if it is 5 percent alcohol in the gas... you should
be able to fill it to the 105 before the water starts to settle in the
bottom.... if you only get it to 102.... then the alcohol in the gas
already had water mixed into it,, or it was only 2 percent alcohol in the
gas to start with.
Any way until you get enough water into the gas to cause it to settle out,,,
it will burn ok.
Boyd young
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| Subject: | SlingShot on E-Bay |
I just happened across a Kolb Sling Shot with out engine on E-Bay. The
current bid is $5,000.00 with 7 hours left on the auction. I might be
one heck of a deal. It is all red. Could this be one of New Kolb's old
demonstrator?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kolb-Slingshot-Aircraft-minus-powerplant_W
0QQitemZ110101269542QQcategoryZ63679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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I finally ran out of things to build with, (need to go to Boise again)
so I was able to go flying for a change. I choose to go to the Alvord to
check on the water level this spring. I took a different camera,
(Olympus, a bit better than I have been using) unfortunately the
batteries didn't last as long as I would have preferred. I thought that
I took a video of the lake bed, close up, but unfortunately I just held
up a dead camera.
I flew for 1.5 hours, 98 miles burning 6.5 gallons of gas.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5553312251077449883
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5718060506220452780
Larry, Oregon
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: radio noise
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
> To: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: radio noise
, are the power supply wires to the stobe(s) sheilded
>> and grounded at one end only? Your "pop" description seems to
>> fit a capacitor discharge scenario, something a strobe is likely to
>> do.
I read the manual from Kesterston strobes and the one thing that they said
was to connect the power wire to the strobes to the first terminal on the
power bar. I did so and the "Pop" stopped. I am still not able to hook the
GPS to the battery for the noise.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Rebuilding Fuel Pump |
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rebuilding Fuel Pump
>
>
>
> Arty
I rebuilt mine ever 100 hrs. Had one last year fail at 110 hrs. Glad I had
a electric back-up.
Back in the snow mobile days some of them would last for ever?
Wayne
Mark 3
Rotax 582
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
Could this be one of New Kolb's old demonstrator?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kolb-Slingshot-Aircraft-minus-powerplant_W0QQitemZ110101269542QQcategoryZ63679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rick Neilsen
Rick:
That's Bruce Chesnut's old SS.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: flying video's |
I choose to go to the Alvord to check on the water level this spring.
Larry, Oregon
Larry:
Looks pretty dry. Guess the major water is when the snow melts off
the Steens. Sure was wet last May.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
Just described it to Bryan M. You are right John, sounds like Bruce's if
they took the 912S off and replaced it with a 582.
steve
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
I don't know if I am reading the bidding history right but bidder number 8 looks
like he is either bidding against himself, or is the owner of the aircraft and
is jacking up the Kolb price.
Ron (Arizona)
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---- Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
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I just happened across a Kolb Sling Shot with out engine on E-Bay. The current bid is $5,000.00 with 7 hours left on the auction. I might be one heck of a deal. It is all red. Could this be one of New Kolb's old demonstrator? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kolb-Slingshot-Aircraft-minus-powerplant_W0QQitemZ110101269542QQcategoryZ63679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator |
Doubt if any filter that we could afford/lift would separate the
fully miscible mixture of alcohol and water into its parts.
Distillation?
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | SlingShot on E-Bay |
What it looks like is that bidder 8 has a max bid and no one has hit it yet.
He will show up as the high bidder with his bid going up until his max is
met. Then the other bidder will show up.
Mike
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot on E-Bay
I don't know if I am reading the bidding history right but bidder number 8
looks like he is either bidding against himself, or is the owner of the
aircraft and is jacking up the Kolb price.
Ron (Arizona)
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---- Richard & Martha Neilsen <NeilsenRM@comcast.net> wrote:
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I just happened across a Kolb Sling Shot with out engine on E-Bay. The
current bid is $5,000.00 with 7 hours left on the auction. I might be one
heck of a deal. It is all red. Could this be one of New Kolb's old
demonstrator?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Kolb-Slingshot-Aircraft-minus-powerplant_W0QQ
itemZ110101269542QQcategoryZ63679QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
number 8 looks like he is either bidding against himself, or is the
owner of the aircraft and is jacking up the Kolb price.
| Ron (Arizona)
Ron:
It looks that way, but is the result of making maximum bids that are
automatically bid by the ebay program to counter a competitors bid.
That way the bidder doesn't have to sit on top of the computer to have
a chance at the item.
I buy a lot of stuff off ebay. However, I wait until the last minute
or less to make my bid. The closer I can get my max bid in to the end
date, the better chance I have of getting it at the cheapest price.
Why drive up the bid 3 days or three hour before it is over?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Kolb model differences |
Kolb, Kolbra, Twinstar, Slingshot, etc... I know what the Ultrastar is
because I own one, and the current models are described on TNK's website,
but I'm in the dark about many of the older models... is there any website
that describes (or anybody willing to summarize) the various models and the
differences?
-Dana
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| Subject: | RE: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator |
Boyd,
Was thinking, by using the water separator to filter the water/alcohol
mixture, maybe it would remove the alcohol as well.
Thanks for the info on testing the fuel. Sounds easy to do in the field when
your not sure of the source.
John Ratcliffe
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
Flew the HKS Firestar II today again. Prior to the flight, I raised the needle
jet one notch on both carbs in hopes of eliminating the EGT spike in the mid-range
RPM. I also put a strip of duct tape down the center of the oil cooler
to see if I could get the oil temperature up. I saw 130 degrees on the first
flight, and the manual indicates optimum range of 170-212 degrees F.
The flight went very well. I like this engine! The EGT was more consistent across
the entire operational RPM range (no big mid-range spike), running about
1290 degrees at 4,900 RPM. This is at 6,000 feet density altitude. The strip
of duct tape across the radiator raised the oil temperature to around 140 degrees
- still not high enough. The oil temperature pickup is at the bottom of
the tank, so I'm sure the oil coming out of the engine before going through the
cooler is higher.
For you Rotax 912 drivers - where is the oil temperature probe located on your
installations? Also, what are your EGT's at maximum power, and at 1,000 RPM less
than maximuM? The HKS has the same carbs as the 912.
After the flight, I refilled the two five gallon gas tanks (standard Firestar tanks).
It took about 4.2 gallons to refill. That is with 2.5 hours running time,
with 2.2 hours in the air. Most of the two flights were in the pattern,
up and down with a total of 16 landings. I believe ten gallons of fuel will probably
equate to 4 hours of flight time with the HKS. Best I could do with the
Rotax 503 was 3 hours. That's averaging 50 mph cruise.
More later, as I get more time on the engine.
--------
Dave Bigelow
Kamuela, Hawaii
FS2, HKS 700E
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=100915#100915
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
located on your installations? Also, what are your EGT's at maximum
power, and at 1,000 RPM less than maximuM? The HKS has the same carbs
as the 912.
| Dave Bigelow
Dave:
The 912 oil temp sender is on the back side of the oil pump after it
goes through the oil cooler. That is why the minimum oil temp is
190F. It is much hotter when it comes out the sump and back into the
remote tank.
I have no idea about EGT. I have never had an EGT on any of my 912
engines.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
Yes that would be a good strategy. ;-)
Ron (Arizona)
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---- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
============
| I don't know if I am reading the bidding history right but bidder
number 8 looks like he is either bidding against himself, or is the
owner of the aircraft and is jacking up the Kolb price.
| Ron (Arizona)
Ron:
It looks that way, but is the result of making maximum bids that are
automatically bid by the ebay program to counter a competitors bid.
That way the bidder doesn't have to sit on top of the computer to have
a chance at the item.
I buy a lot of stuff off ebay. However, I wait until the last minute
or less to make my bid. The closer I can get my max bid in to the end
date, the better chance I have of getting it at the cheapest price.
Why drive up the bid 3 days or three hour before it is over?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter / Water Seperator |
Haven't used it on the plane, but I've used a Racor fuel/water separator on
my outboard boat for several years, and it does a dandy
job. Lar.
On 3/15/07, boyd <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi gang,
>
> Considering installing a Racor Fuel Filter/Water Separator in place of
> regular fuel filter.
>
> Normal Mister Funnel and preflight fuel samplesshould take care of fuel
> source and condensation problems, but with ethanol fuels in our future
> would
> this be enough?
>
> Water and alcohol mix quite readily. Would a water filter tend to separate
> the alcohol along with the water from the rest of the fuel?Could a
> water/alcohol emulsified mixture get by normal fuel checks?
>
> Not worth worrying about?
>
> Would like to hear general comments and as well as from those who may be
> using this type of filter.
>
> John Ratcliffe
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
John/Ron/All & sundry,
After being 'sniped' (outbid at the last minute) on some items on
e-bay, I looked in their archives and found it's almost an art. Includes
running two browser pages, installing the same atomic clock software they
use, etc. While being sniped is no fun, I do respect those who invest all
that time to do it.
Hope that SS finds a good home.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot on E-Bay
(Snip)
> I buy a lot of stuff off ebay. However, I wait until the last minute
> or less to make my bid. The closer I can get my max bid in to the end
> date, the better chance I have of getting it at the cheapest price.
> Why drive up the bid 3 days or three hour before it is over?
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
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| Subject: | Re: SlingShot on E-Bay |
I have had good luck by running my laptop open at the same time as my old
desktop. Refresh on one while the other one is loaded and ready with the bid
ready to enter. Every once in a while I bid a second too late, but it
usually works OK.
I talked with Mike about the Slingshot earlier today, was slightly
interested. It was Chestnut's old Slingshot, and Mike was running Steven
Greene's old 582 on it, was taking off the 582 to put it on the purple &
white Kolbra that Kolb sold a while back, that is the Slingshot's
replacement.
Ought to make somebody a good airplane.
There is currently a blue head 582 on ebay for a decent price.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot on E-Bay
> <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
>
> John/Ron/All & sundry,
>
> After being 'sniped' (outbid at the last minute) on some items on
> e-bay, I looked in their archives and found it's almost an art. Includes
> running two browser pages, installing the same atomic clock software they
> use, etc. While being sniped is no fun, I do respect those who invest all
> that time to do it.
>
> Hope that SS finds a good home.
>
> Ed in JXN
> MkII/503
> Do not archive.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SlingShot on E-Bay
>
>
>
> (Snip)
>
>> I buy a lot of stuff off ebay. However, I wait until the last minute
>> or less to make my bid. The closer I can get my max bid in to the end
>> date, the better chance I have of getting it at the cheapest price.
>> Why drive up the bid 3 days or three hour before it is over?
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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