---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/19/07: 43 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:53 AM - Re: HKS engine install (Dave Bigelow) 2. 03:25 AM - Re: Re: GA & Amateur Built Aircraft Engine Failure Rates (Steven Green) 3. 05:46 AM - test (N27SB@aol.com) 4. 11:33 AM - Firestar bowling (Larry Cottrell) 5. 12:01 PM - Re: Firestar bowling (John Hauck) 6. 12:16 PM - Firestar II kit in progress for sale (curtis groote) 7. 01:33 PM - Dual Stick-MK3 C Help!! (Jim Kmet) 8. 02:03 PM - Nimrod Tapes (Richard Pike) 9. 02:19 PM - Re: Firestar bowling (planecrazzzy) 10. 02:27 PM - Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 11. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Firestar bowling (John Hauck) 12. 02:44 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (Larry Cottrell) 13. 02:50 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 14. 02:50 PM - PART 91 PART 103 (knowvne@aol.com) 15. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: Firestar bowling (Bob Noyer) 16. 02:59 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (planecrazzzy) 17. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (Ron) 18. 03:11 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 19. 03:14 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 20. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (Larry Cottrell) 21. 03:48 PM - Re: PART 91 PART 103 (Jim Dunn) 22. 03:54 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (jim) 23. 03:54 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (Eugene Zimmerman) 24. 04:11 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (jim) 25. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Firestar bowling (Dana Hague) 26. 04:46 PM - Re: Firestar bowling (Larry Bourne) 27. 04:46 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (Richard Girard) 28. 05:12 PM - Re: Nimrod Tapes (Richard Girard) 29. 05:16 PM - Re: Firestar bowling (Eugene Zimmerman) 30. 05:39 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 31. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (John Hauck) 32. 06:00 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (DAquaNut@aol.com) 33. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (Denny Rowe) 34. 06:45 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (Mike Welch) 35. 07:08 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 36. 07:21 PM - Re: Portable hangar? (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 37. 07:23 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (Roger Lee) 38. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (Robert Laird) 39. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Full throttle power loss (GeoR38@aol.com) 40. 07:35 PM - 503 break-in (LEE CREECH) 41. 07:44 PM - Re: 503 break-in (John Hauck) 42. 08:19 PM - Re: Full throttle power loss (grabo172) 43. 09:11 PM - Passed the inspection (rap@isp.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: HKS engine install From: "Dave Bigelow" John Hauk wrote: > I looked through the entire installation manual, then went back to pg > 11 and still see nothing about a return oil pump. John, It's kind of hard to see from the views on page 11 in the installation manual, but the oil pump housing has two return lines running from two sections of the same pump. One goes to the radiator, and the other goes to the tank. Look at the top view of the engine. The section sticking out from the center is the oil pump housing. -------- Dave Bigelow Kamuela, Hawaii FS2, HKS 700E Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101569#101569 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:25:49 AM PST US From: "Steven Green" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GA & Amateur Built Aircraft Engine Failure Rates Dana and all, You are correct. An engine failure with no injuries and mimimal or no damage to the airframe does not require a report. Been there done that. FAA said no report required. Steven > experimental (or antique) will put his bird down in a pasture for whatever > reason, and just deal with the problem and get it back out of there as fast > as possible... especially if he's not squeaky clean legal. And usually he > CAN get it back out... a Kolb (or a Cub for that matter) will handle a > rough field landing far better than, say, a Cessna 172 or a Cherokee. > > -Dana ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:24 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: test not getting mail ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:38 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after MV, Roger Hankins had brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first dropped it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly flash backs for John H and John W. I was going to film it, but decided that if I did I would never see it through the view finder. I must say it was a memorable event that probably should not be repeated. The sound of the wind through the finger holes was quite unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had departed, Roger began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper speed. I would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive to do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look closely you can see the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848 Larry, Oregon do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:39 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling "He first dropped it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly flash backs for John H and John W. Larry, Oregon" Larry C: The closer that ball got to the ground the more it looked like it was going to hit me between the eyes. I stared at it for a few seconds, chickened out, did a 180, and hauled ass. If it was going to hit me, it was going to hit me in the butt. ;-) john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:19 PM PST US From: curtis groote Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II kit in progress for sale I'm thinking about selling the Firestar II kit that I purchased from Kolb in early 2004. It has white powdercoat, a second seat, strut sleeves, and heel brake pedals. It's now in various stages of the fabric covering process. The empennage, ailerons, and cage have Polyspray, one wing has the first coat of Polybrush, the other wing is yet to be covered. Cost of materials so far : $11,367. South Dakota. If anybody is interested, contact me personally at cgroote1@yahoo.com or phone 1-605-348-7170. Thanks. Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:16 PM PST US From: "Jim Kmet" Subject: Kolb-List: Dual Stick-MK3 C Help!! Guys, I bought the dual stick conversion for my MK-3 C, was going to install it tonight, but hit a snag.I rec`d 2 pages of drawings from TNK with the kit, but they have drawings & numbers on them, but no details about which an bolt goes where, etc. also, the piece that replaces the single stick, has a larger bolt hole that the original single stick took. If anybody can e-mail me more a more detailed instruction sheet & or drawings, I`d reall appreciate the help. If not, I' ll call them tomorrow to see about some help. Some detailed pics may help too. Thanks in advance, Jim ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:41 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Kolb-List: Nimrod Tapes Non-Kolb related - tolerance & indulgence requested, there might be somebody who just might know - There is a Viet Nam vet in our EAA chapter who flew A26 Invaders in Viet Nam, and he has some old video tapes of their operations. It is on what sounds like magnetic tape from his description. Apparently it is in a sort of reel to reel format, the tapes (brown, magnetic-looking, width unknown) sound similar to the reel to reel tape format that was popular in the 60's and early 70's, but he does not know what format to ask for, and he would like to get them transcribed to a modern format to preserve this little part of history. Apparently there are very few videos of the A26 attack bomber operating in Nam. The reels (I have not seen them) are apparently about 12" in diameter. If anybody can cast any light on what format this is, or what it is called, - whatever - anything - he might be able to pursue getting them transcribed. Thanks. do not archive - contact me off-list please richard@bcchapel.org Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling From: "planecrazzzy" Back when I was going for my Private Ticket...I used to belong to AOPA mostly to use their weather site.... But in the back of one of their magazines , they asked questions.... One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from a plane? The answer is YES , but yer responsible for where it lands.... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101702#101702 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:27:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" So my Rotax 447 Bing 54 carb Firestar has been at another airport for 2 days now... the reason... When I apply full power and take off about 30 seconds into the climb I loose engine power. I can run at partial throttle and get back and land, but the full throttle will kill it. I have a couple theories... One is a bad/wrong size main jet... but I took it apart and verified it was clean and the right size (it's a 165) and today it was an internationally standard day temp wise (65F) at sea level. My other thought is maybe the carb is not vertical and tilted too far back during the climb and therefore the bowl level is tilted and uncovering the jet? I'll attach a picture of the carb... Any other thoughts on what it may be... Ground run is good, I adjusted the clip to #2 from top and re tuned the carb on the ground. -Erik -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101705#101705 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_002_153.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:43 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling a plane? | Mike Mike: How else ya gonna practice bombing? john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:11 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss Try taking out your squeeze bulb if you have one in your gas line. I had the same problem and it was due to a brand new out of the box squeeze bulb. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "grabo172" Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss > > So my Rotax 447 Bing 54 carb Firestar has been at another airport for 2 > days now... the reason... > > When I apply full power and take off about 30 seconds into the climb I > loose engine power. I can run at partial throttle and get back and land, > but the full throttle will kill it. > > I have a couple theories... > > One is a bad/wrong size main jet... > but I took it apart and verified it was clean and the right size (it's a > 165) and today it was an internationally standard day temp wise (65F) at > sea level. > > My other thought is maybe the carb is not vertical and tilted too far back > during the climb and therefore the bowl level is tilted and uncovering the > jet? > > I'll attach a picture of the carb... > > Any other thoughts on what it may be... > > Ground run is good, I adjusted the clip to #2 from top and re tuned the > carb on the ground. > > -Erik > > -------- > -Erik Grabowski > Kolb Firestar N197BG > CFI/CFII/LS-I > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101705#101705 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_002_153.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" Unfortunately... No squeeze bulb... :( -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101715#101715 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:57 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: PART 91 PART 103 From: knowvne@aol.com FAR part 91.15 Dropping Objects No pilot in command of a civil aircraft may allow any object to be dropped from that aircraft in flight that creates a hazard to persons or property. However, this section does not prohibit the dropping of any object if reasonable precautions are taken to avoid injury or damage to persons or property. FOR ULTRALITES Far Part 103.9 Hazardous operations. (a) No person may operate any ultralight vehicle in a manner that creates a hazard to other persons or property. (b) No person may allow an object to be dropped from an ultralight vehicle if such action creates a hazard to other persons or property. ARE THESE REGS THE SAME? AND IF NOT WHAT DO YOU VIEW IS THE DIFFERENCE? Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: planecrazzzy@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 5:18 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling Back when I was going for my Private Ticket...I used to belong to AOPA mostly to use their weather site.... But in the back of one of their magazines , they asked questions.... One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from a plane? The answer is YES , but yer responsible for where it lands.... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN .. .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101702#101702 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:44 PM PST US From: Bob Noyer Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling Usta be somewhere in the FAA Rocks & Shoals (regs) bout dropping stuff NLT grains of sand! S'pose inflation got to that, also. regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:59:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "planecrazzzy" Is the main jet "Loose"..... I've had one do that...... Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- .. .. .. .. .. Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101719#101719 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:24 PM PST US From: Ron Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss It sounds like its chocking on too much fuel. do you have a choke in the Rotax, or anything else that will either restrict air or give it too much fuel. My SWAG Ron (Arizona) ---- grabo172 wrote: ============ Unfortunately... No squeeze bulb... :( -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101715#101715 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:04 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" I took out the main jet and cleaned and verified it to be the right size and re tightened it with the same loss of power results... I very vaguely looked at the pulse line... I'll check it better next time I get out to the plane... -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101722#101722 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" captainron1(at)cox.net wrote: > It sounds like its chocking on too much fuel. do you have a choke in the Rotax, or anything else that will either restrict air or give it too much fuel. > My SWAG > > I do have a choke... that might be something to check too, I wonder if maybe it is stuck a little bit on... Keep'm coming, I need a good list to check when I get out there... -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101723#101723 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss Then I would change the fuel pump, whichever kind that you have. You have a blockage somewhere in the system that will not allow sufficient fuel to be delivered for full power. I am assuming that you have changed all the filters and checked the pickup tube in the fuel tank its self for blockage. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "grabo172" Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:50 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss > > Unfortunately... No squeeze bulb... :( > > -------- > -Erik Grabowski > Kolb Firestar N197BG > CFI/CFII/LS-I > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101715#101715 > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: PART 91 PART 103 From: "Jim Dunn" Part 91 regs do not apply to Ultralights so they list essentially the same thing in part 103 when they want it to apply to Ultralights. > > > FAR part 91.15 Dropping Objects > > No pilot in command of a civil aircraft may allow any object to be > dropped from that aircraft in flight that creates a hazard to persons > or property. However, this section does not prohibit the dropping of > any object if reasonable precautions are taken to avoid injury or > damage > to persons or property. > > > FOR ULTRALITES > Far Part 103.9 Hazardous operations. > > (a) No person may operate any ultralight vehicle in a manner that > creates a hazard to other persons or property. > > (b) No person may allow an object to be dropped from an ultralight > vehicle if such action creates a hazard to other persons or property. > > > ARE THESE REGS THE SAME? AND IF NOT WHAT DO YOU VIEW IS THE DIFFERENCE? > > > Mark Vaughn > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: planecrazzzy@yahoo.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 5:18 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling > > > > Back when I was going for my Private Ticket...I used to belong to AOPA > mostly to use their weather site.... > > But in the back of one of their magazines , they asked questions.... > > One of their questions was: Is it legal to drop a bowling ball from a > plane? > > The answer is YES , but yer responsible for where it lands.... > > > Gotta Fly... > Mike & "Jaz" in MN > . > . > . > > -------- > . > . > . > . > . > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101702#101702 > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > =0 > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "jim" What was your egt at FT on ground and in climb? Low EGT indicates rich. If it's good on the ground but way too rich in air, could be flooding due to nose-up climb attitude. You may want to tie down and raise the nose to simulate climb attitude. While limping back with part throttle, does it ever recover to the point where you can get full throttle again (before landing). -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101732#101732 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:36 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss The symptoms you describe do not fit a fuel enrichner problem. Any problem with a leaking or stuck open enrichner would definitely be worse a part throttle than full throttle. What you describe indicates a fuel starvation problem. Several things could cause this. Worn or defective fuel pump diaphragm, or leaking pulse line or fuel lines that allow air to enter under negative pressure, or foreign matter causing restriction. Gene On Mar 19, 2007, at 6:13 PM, grabo172 wrote: > > > captainron1(at)cox.net wrote: >> It sounds like its chocking on too much fuel. do you have a choke >> in the Rotax, or anything else that will either restrict >> air or give it too much fuel. >> My SWAG >> >> > > > I do have a choke... that might be something to check too, I > wonder if maybe it is stuck a little bit on... > > Keep'm coming, I need a good list to check when I get out there... > > -------- > -Erik Grabowski > Kolb Firestar N197BG > CFI/CFII/LS-I > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101723#101723 > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:11:27 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "jim" If I have time, I will do a couple things to troubleshoot engine power loss. One would be to pull out the choke/enrichment and see if the problem gets better or worse. Better => it was too lean. Worse => it is too rich. You can check EGTs. If the engine is at reduced power it's harder to gage but it may help. If EGTs spike just before power loss, too lean (fuel starvation?). I had problems last Summer in a Quicksilver with Cuyuna 430 and Mikuni carb. It would always run great during climbout but would lose power after level off. Took me about 4 flights for me to make the connection. Turns out the Mikuni would flood out when tilted forward during level off. It ran great on the ground. Rotated the carb back a bit (and marked its position) and it worked great after that. -------- Jim N. Idaho Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101737#101737 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 04:20:13 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar bowling At 05:55 PM 3/19/2007, Bob Noyer wrote: > >Usta be somewhere in the FAA Rocks & Shoals (regs) bout dropping >stuff NLT grains of sand! S'pose inflation got to that, also. I don't know where that was (or is), but I recall it too. It was in reference to gliders (or maybe it was balloons) jettisoning ballast, which could only be "water or loose sand". I guess the idea was that unlike larger objects, you didn't have to worry about where you dropped it. -Dana -- -- The citizens of the United States are getting the government they deserve. The problem is that I'm also getting the government they deserve. ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:09 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling It wouldn't open for me. Anyone else have this problem ?? Lar. Do not Archive. On 3/19/07, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after MV, Roger Hankins had > brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first dropped it from 2000 > feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly flash backs for John > H and John W. I was going to film it, but decided that if I did I would > never see it through the view finder. I must say it was a memorable event > that probably should not be repeated. The sound of the wind through the > finger holes was quite unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had > departed, Roger began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper > speed. I would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive > to do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look closely you can > see the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848 > > Larry, Oregon > > do not archive > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:43 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss Erik, Did you buy fuel between the time the engine ran properly and when it didn't? Have you tried pushing over to level flight or shallow dive while still at WOT? What do the plugs look like? Was the flight to this airport where the airplane is now uneventful? If you are practiced at dead stick landings, put in new plugs (after you put the needle back where it was) let it begin to miss and stumble on climb, shut it down and glide in. Check the plugs per the Bing manual. >From my Italian and English sport car days, "95% of carburetor problems are solved in the ignition system". Rick On 3/19/07, Larry Cottrell wrote: > > > Try taking out your squeeze bulb if you have one in your gas line. I had > the > same problem and it was due to a brand new out of the box squeeze bulb. > Larry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "grabo172" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:27 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss > > > > > > So my Rotax 447 Bing 54 carb Firestar has been at another airport for 2 > > days now... the reason... > > > > When I apply full power and take off about 30 seconds into the climb I > > loose engine power. I can run at partial throttle and get back and > land, > > but the full throttle will kill it. > > > > I have a couple theories... > > > > One is a bad/wrong size main jet... > > but I took it apart and verified it was clean and the right size (it's a > > 165) and today it was an internationally standard day temp wise (65F) at > > sea level. > > > > My other thought is maybe the carb is not vertical and tilted too far > back > > during the climb and therefore the bowl level is tilted and uncovering > the > > jet? > > > > I'll attach a picture of the carb... > > > > Any other thoughts on what it may be... > > > > Ground run is good, I adjusted the clip to #2 from top and re tuned the > > carb on the ground. > > > > -Erik > > > > -------- > > -Erik Grabowski > > Kolb Firestar N197BG > > CFI/CFII/LS-I > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101705#101705 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/photo_002_153.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:35 PM PST US From: "Richard Girard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nimrod Tapes Sounds like ancient video tape. You might try a local TV station or a college video lab. Rick On 3/19/07, Richard Pike wrote: > > Non-Kolb related - tolerance & indulgence requested, there might be > somebody who just might know - > > There is a Viet Nam vet in our EAA chapter who flew A26 Invaders in Viet > Nam, and he has some old video tapes of their operations. It is on what > sounds like magnetic tape from his description. Apparently it is in a sort > of reel to reel format, the tapes (brown, magnetic-looking, width unknown) > sound similar to the reel to reel tape format that was popular in the 60's > and early 70's, but he does not know what format to ask for, and he would > like to get them transcribed to a modern format to preserve this little part > of history. Apparently there are very few videos of the A26 attack bomber > operating in Nam. The reels (I have not seen them) are apparently about 12" > in diameter. If anybody can cast any light on what format this is, or what > it is called, - whatever - anything - he might be able to pursue getting > them transcribed. Thanks. > > do not archive - contact me off-list please > richard@bcchapel.org > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > * > > > * > > -- Rick Girard "Ya'll drop on in" takes on a whole new meaning when you live at the airport. ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:36 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling Hey Lar, Worked fine for me. On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Larry Bourne wrote: > It wouldn't open for me. Anyone else have this > problem ?? Lar. Do not Archive. > > On 3/19/07, Larry Cottrell wrote: > Two years ago while at the Alvord gathering after MV, Roger Hankins > had brought a bowling ball with him on his trip. He first dropped > it from 2000 feet, which caused a lot of consternation and possibly > flash backs for John H and John W. I was going to film it, but > decided that if I did I would never see it through the view finder. > I must say it was a memorable event that probably should not be > repeated. The sound of the wind through the finger holes was quite > unnerving. After John H, Gary Haley and John W had departed, Roger > began to wonder how far a ball would roll given the proper speed. I > would suggest that if you do this for your self, you should strive > to do it on a fully dry portion of the lake bed. If you look > closely you can see the mud rooster tail in the last part of the roll. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6829470231367079848 > > Larry, Oregon > > do not archive > > > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List _- > =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 05:39:06 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" jindoguy(at)gmail.com wrote: > Erik, Did you buy fuel between the time the engine ran properly and when it didn't? > Have you tried pushing over to level flight or shallow dive while still at WOT? > What do the plugs look like? > Was the flight to this airport where the airplane is now uneventful? > If you are practiced at dead stick landings, put in new plugs (after you put the needle back where it was) let it begin to miss and stumble on climb, shut it down and glide in. Check the plugs per the Bing manual. > >From my Italian and English sport car days, "95% of carburetor problems are solved in the ignition system". > > Rick > > > --- Let's see... I did put gas in before this flight. The flight to the airport (aside from being very bumpy) was uneventful. It's about 18 miles away and I made a pass over another airport before I got there, so my total flight was about 25 miles to the airport where it is now. I'd try the dead stick idea, but I only get to about 400' before the problem acts up... not really safe for a dead stick from there. I haven't tried to push it over for level WOT... I'll try that the next time I'm out trouble shooting. Right now, I'm leaning toward the fuel line contamination... I've been only up a few times in the last couple months. I think my next act is to drain the tank and inspect the fuel pickup and refuel with fresh gas. Also I'm going to pull the plugs and see what's been going on with the mixture. And I'm going to inspect the pulse line and fuel pump for indication of a failure... I'll put the wheels up in a climb attitude, tie her down tight and see if I can recreate the problem on the ground too... I prefer that to the take off and see what happens method... Let me know if you guys think of anything else... -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101770#101770 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:44 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss Erik: Anybody tell you to change the fuel filter? Blow back through the fuel line from pump to tank to insure it is clear. Take the bowl off the carb again and insure there are no little specks of "stuff" in there that might get into the main jet. Tie it down and run it wide open for 5 mins or more to see what the results are. john h ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:11 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss In a message dated 3/19/2007 5:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, jindoguy@gmail.com writes: If you are practiced at dead stick landings, put in new plugs (after you put the needle back where it was) let it begin to miss and stumble on climb, shut it down and glide in. Check the plugs per the Bing manual. >From my Italian and English sport car days, "95% of carburetor problems are solved in the ignition system". Rick I found out recently that your plugs may not ignite the fuel properly once the plugs get fouled or very wet with fuel. Engine at full throttle was 300 rpm below normal. Changed the plugs and the rpms came back up. Plugs looked almost like new! Ya CAN'T tell by lookin! Ed ( In Houston) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:35 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss You will also want to make sure there is no foreign debris in the float bowl. I had a small piece of rubber from the inside of the primer bulb once cause me to suck the seat cushion of my Loehle up my butt during a low, fast pass at a friends strip. Added full power and got half, too hot to land so I used the excess speed to buy enough altitude to nurse it around the pattern to a safe landing. Ever since, I have run a small extra fuel filter just before the carb. Denny Rowe ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:35 PM PST US From: "Mike Welch" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Full throttle power loss Erik, I experienced an identical and I mean IDENTICAL situation I narated a couple of months back. The problem turned out to be a little miniature looking pine cone (seed) that would lodge itself in the petcock exiting the gas tank, whenever you gave it full throttle. You'd get full throttle for long enough to get airborne...then back to idle!! Yet, on the ground everything seemed to be ok!! You see it would plug the hole enough for only idle speed(after full T/O throttle), yet gave good performance while it was building a vacuum in the fuel line from the tank. If it were me, I'd clean and verify EVERY speck of crap is not slowing the fuel down, from the gas cap to the line entering the carburator. And this problem is BEFORE the filter....not in front of the carb. FWIW Mike in SW Utah PS I know now to never, never. never, use a household (for lawnmowers, etc) gas can to refuel a plane. BTW This wasn't my plane. I was just an assistant. _________________________________________________________________ Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. http://music.msn.com/presents?icid=ncmsnpresentstagline&ocid=T002MSN03A07001 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:58 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" I think I recall you talking about that Mike... Even though I use a normal gas can, I now ALWAYS put my fuel through a Mr. Funnel before it goes in the tank... I think your story inspired me to go get one. but I don't think the builder of my plane did that and I actually didn't the first couple times I fueled it, I used a regular funnel, until I read your story. I'm most definatently going to clean and inspect the entire fuel sytem... -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101791#101791 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:30 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Portable hangar? In a message dated 3/18/2007 9:49:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jhm9812@yahoo.com writes: Any ideas for an inexpensive hangar that I could use? John, I use a "Cover-It Instant Garage". It's 12' wide X 24' long and 8' high with a round top. I fold the wings on my FireStar and pull it in with a tail wheel dolly. The front end cover has a zipper on each side and after you zip it open, you roll up the cover door, giving just enough height to clear the muffler (with prop in horizontal position). The cover door is then held open by a strap or rope. Very easy and quick to operate. I've been using this for 10 years. Mine is located under a pine tree grove, protected from the elements. My buddy has one out in the open and it is showing signs of wear from sun and wind. However, lately I have been getting a lot of mildew. I suppose because I don't open it up to air out often enough (haven't been flying as much in past few years). I just checked their web page _www.cover-it-inc.com_ (http://www.cover-it-inc.com) . It appears that they changed the name of company and it's now called Shelter Logic _www.shelterlogic.com_ (http://www.shelterlogic.com) They can custom make almost any size you need. My cost was $600 10 years ago, with a special free freight because I bought two of them (one for another fellow). Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "Roger Lee" When this exact same thing happened to me it was a split in the fuel pump diaphram. My airplane had the same symptoms. Won't hurt to pull it apart and take a look. This was why I installed a low pressure electric pump and just removed the stock pump. I put in a more reliable one. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101793#101793 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:28:49 PM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss My similar story was that my electric backup (Facet) pump (plumbed in series) developed a faulty check valve that restricted flow just enough so that I'd only notice it at full-throttle. Replacing it with a new one fixed the problem. -- Robert On 3/19/07, Roger Lee wrote: > > > When this exact same thing happened to me it was a split in the fuel pump > diaphram. My airplane had the same symptoms. > Won't hurt to pull it apart and take a look. > This was why I installed a low pressure electric pump and just removed the > stock pump. I put in a more reliable one. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101793#101793 > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:30 PM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss make sure the air vent on the fuel tank is not covered........I had that happen and it would kill the engine when a vacuum bulilt up in the tank. Also I had an eyelash (mine, I think, just from lookin at the inside of my micuni fuel pump) laying on the rubber membrane of that fuel pump. Trust me .... down I came everytime at high speed throttle. ..... years ago . Btw, I am still using the same fuel pump and it has never since failed since removing my eyelash!.... in 1994. George Randolph Firestar driver from the Villages 447 n Ivo 3 blade, single carb just like yours ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:55 PM PST US From: "LEE CREECH" Subject: Kolb-List: 503 break-in So, I just had a 300-hour overhaul done on my Rotax 503, and it's back on the Firestar. The officially recommended break-in procedure involves running the engine for over an hour at various RPMs according to a very detailed routine (27 separate segments ranging from 10 seconds to 5 minutes each, in nearly random order). I have to wonder how important it is to follow this EXACTLY? Especially for the second half, it looks like you could accomplish essentially the same thing by doing a few touch-and-goes with the usual changes in throttle settings. Anyone have any informed opinions? Lee Firestar II _________________________________________________________________ Live Search Maps find all the local information you need, right when you need it. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag2&FORM=MGAC01 ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 07:44:06 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 503 break-in Anyone have any informed | opinions? | | Lee Lee: Rotax indicates this is the way to breakin the engine, primarily the rings. The order and duration is an important part of the procedure. If it was my engine, I would try to follow the breakin procedure to the second. Take care, john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:11 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full throttle power loss From: "grabo172" Well, I've ordered a new fuel pump and fuel filter... as well as some material to redo my tailwheel springs and wires I've been wanting to replace. I figure might as well be safe and do it all while I'm in there, and I'm due in 2 hours for my 50 hour maint anyway, so I'll knock it all out at once... I only wish I could get it back to my home airport to do everything... but at least the other airport (Holly Hill) is where my club meets and I know it has a good area for testing and I have some support there.. I've got it in a spare hanger, but it is a hangar that has an open front, which I don't really like, I'm going to have alot of pollen to clean off of it, but beggers can't be choosers I guess. Thanks for all the great advice guys! -Erik -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=101806#101806 ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:43 PM PST US From: rap@isp.com Subject: Kolb-List: Passed the inspection I passed the FAA inspection Friday. How I just need a calm day to t est fly it. 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