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1. 12:54 AM - Re: Fantastic Kolb websites (icrashrc)
2. 05:18 AM - Re: Firestar bowling (planecrazzzy)
3. 05:28 AM - Re: Fly-in (Thom Riddle)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: newbie (joe)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Firestar bowling (planecrazzzy)
6. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: newbie (Richard Girard)
7. 07:30 AM - Fuel Pump Mandatory SB (Roger Lee)
8. 07:43 AM - Re: Fuel Pump Mandatory SB (John Hauck)
9. 07:45 AM - Re: Photo from a Kolb (russ kinne)
10. 08:25 AM - Re: Re: newbie (David Key)
11. 08:47 AM - Re: newbie (JetPilot)
12. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: newbie (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
13. 08:54 AM - Re: Firestar bowling (JetPilot)
14. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: Fantastic Kolb websites (Mike Welch)
15. 09:24 AM - Re: Fuel Pump Mandatory SB (John Williamson)
16. 09:40 AM - Re: Re: newbie (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
17. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Fantastic Kolb websites (John Hauck)
18. 10:18 AM - Re: Oxygen deprivation (David Lucas)
19. 11:26 AM - Oxygen deprivation (Terry Davis)
20. 11:38 AM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (pat ladd)
21. 11:46 AM - Part 103 (DANIEL WALTER)
22. 12:53 PM - FireFly Ground Loop (Jack B. Hart)
23. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Firestar bowling (Dana Hague)
24. 01:41 PM - Re: Fly-in (Dana Hague)
25. 01:57 PM - Re: FireFly Ground Loop (DAquaNut@aol.com)
26. 02:15 PM - Re: newbie (robert bean)
27. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: newbie (russ kinne)
28. 02:37 PM - Re: newbie...we are all newbies (Todd Fredricks)
29. 03:00 PM - Re: newbie (JetPilot)
30. 03:01 PM - Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (John H Murphy)
31. 03:04 PM - Re: FireFly Ground Loop (JetPilot)
32. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (John Hauck)
33. 03:18 PM - Re: Oxygen deprivation (Ed Chmielewski)
34. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: newbie (Larry Cottrell)
35. 03:49 PM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (Ed Chmielewski)
36. 03:49 PM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (Ed Chmielewski)
37. 04:09 PM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (Kolbdriver)
38. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (Denny Rowe)
39. 04:45 PM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (Denny Rowe)
40. 04:57 PM - Re: Oxygen deprivation (George Thompson)
41. 05:39 PM - Re: Monument Valley - when in May? (Larry Bourne)
42. 05:39 PM - Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity (JetPilot)
43. 06:02 PM - Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (HShack@aol.com)
44. 06:04 PM - Re: Re: newbie (Richard Girard)
45. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (Jack B. Hart)
46. 07:02 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (Jack B. Hart)
47. 07:09 PM - Re: Fly-in (Eugene Zimmerman)
48. 07:17 PM - Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (N111KX (Kip))
49. 07:17 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (John Hauck)
50. 08:05 PM - Re: Fly-in (Dana Hague)
51. 08:15 PM - Re: Re: FireFly Ground Loop (possums)
52. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (possums)
53. 09:07 PM - Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (Richard Pike)
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| Subject: | Re: Fantastic Kolb websites |
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
Site is still pretty new. i'm still debugging and adding content on a regular
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling |
10 ft faster per sec.....12 sec ....Terminal velocity - 120 mph
If yer gonna jump off a building....you don't need to go higher than
the 12 floor....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
JetPilot wrote:
> How high would I need to drop to get it to terminal velocity ?
>
> Mike
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Thanks for the heads up. I've conferred with Bob Bean and we decided we are flying
down to Homer's place for sure, if weather permits. The coordinates of his
place were given in an earlier post. His airport ID is 43PA which can be found
at airnav.com
I hope I finally get to meet some of your Kolbers this year.
Thom in Buffalo
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I appreciate the kindness I've been shown, and I agree, I like newcomer better
than newbie too.
I am not really looking into hanggliding anymore, I may not have been clear on
that. I also after some flights don't think ppc is what I want to do. I want
to be able to move a little faster than that, not that slow isn't fun too.
I am interested in moving eventually on to sport pilot, I think I would like to
be able to take someone with me. I just have to figure out how to get the time
I need in and thought maybe buying a 103 plane first to get my hours in and
then moving on to a two seater with sport pilot.
I still have two boys in college, the business I worked for just sold and laid
everyone off, and I just started a new job, so money isn't what it could be.
I am however selling another business I have, soon I hope, and that should free
up some money.
I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the 103, hope
that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It seems like it
would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb when I get my two seater.
Any thoughts?
I am in Broken Arrow, Ok, its just outside of Tulsa. Gets a bit breezy here so
I definately think 3 axis. The Kolb 103 maybe the better one to go with, I need
experience and advice.
Again thank you everyone for all the response and support,
Joe Klerekoper
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling |
Hey Possum,
Up here in da Minne-sota land...
Day use da pumpkins , don't cha know.....
This guy Corky , would load up as many as he could and take off...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
possums(at)bellsouth.net wrote:
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> Oh!...... come on, you guys can't tell me that at least some of you
> haven't done watermelon drops before.
> I don't mean on houses near the airport - but at your flyins at least??
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Joe, The most important thing you should look for, in my humble opinion, is
good flight training and support for whatever you decide to purchase.
Find a local flight park where training is done and just go watch the
activity for a day.
What are they flying?
Is there maintenance facilities on the field?
Do they have a retail operation where you can get parts?
Once you find the flight park that can give you that kind of support, take
an introductory flight with an instructor. If that goes well, take lessons.
Learn everything you can before you make the commitment and money changes
hands. Nothing will turn you off to aviation like bad training and the wrong
airplane for you.
Rick
On 3/25/07, joe <okjoek2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I appreciate the kindness I've been shown, and I agree, I like newcomer
> better than newbie too.
> I am not really looking into hanggliding anymore, I may not have been
> clear on that. I also after some flights don't think ppc is what I want to
> do. I want to be able to move a little faster than that, not that slow
> isn't fun too.
> I am interested in moving eventually on to sport pilot, I think I would
> like to be able to take someone with me. I just have to figure out how to
> get the time I need in and thought maybe buying a 103 plane first to get my
> hours in and then moving on to a two seater with sport pilot.
> I still have two boys in college, the business I worked for just sold and
> laid everyone off, and I just started a new job, so money isn't what it
> could be. I am however selling another business I have, soon I hope, and
> that should free up some money.
> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the
> 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It seems
> like it would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb when I get
> my two seater. Any thoughts?
> I am in Broken Arrow, Ok, its just outside of Tulsa. Gets a bit breezy
> here so I definately think 3 axis. The Kolb 103 maybe the better one to go
> with, I need experience and advice.
> Again thank you everyone for all the response and support,
> Joe Klerekoper
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102744#102744
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Fuel Pump Mandatory SB |
Hi Guys,
Is anyone changing their fuel pumps on their 912 as per the mandatory service bulletin
#912-053?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump Mandatory SB |
mandatory service bulletin #912-053?
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Roger:
When it arrives at hauck's holler I'll change it out.
Seems I always luck out on these service bulletins. I have done the
rocker arm and shaft change, stator change, valve spring keeper
change, and now the fuel pump change. Annoying at times, but happy to
get them replaced before I have a problem in the air.
South Mississippi Light Aircraft, Ronnie Smith, is sending me a pump
soon as he gets some in.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Photo from a Kolb |
Bill
I get no picture! - what am I doing wrong? I'd like to see it
Russ
On Mar 22, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Larry Bourne wrote:
> Pretty as a picture, Bill. Very nice.
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> P.S. Did my post about the fuel pumps come thru ?? Didn't see it
> here.
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> On 3/22/07, Bill Vincent <emailbill@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> Hi Gang
> I took this picture last summer, early in the morning, it is near
> my home town in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
> Bill Vincent
> FS II
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Here's your answer. Look into the Firestar II with a 503, all the fun you
could want and in the 13k range.
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joe wrote:
>
>
> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the 103,
hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It seems like it
would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb when I get my two seater.
Any thoughts?
>
Hi Joe,
A quicksilver is a horrible flying plane, and with very poor performance, and glides
like an anvil. If you want something small, for 103, that does not require
building, get a trike. I small trike is a pleasure to fly, and can fly in
a fair amount of wind. They are safe, have good performance, and glide very
well. The key there is to get good trike, there are good ones and horrible ones.
But a single seat small trike is a heck of a lot nicer flying than a quicksilver.
Look at the Air Creations Racer with Fun 14 wing, and also look at the GibboGear
manta wing with the BB sport trike. The Air Creations is more expensive, but
a much better machine and worth it. A trike can also be stored in your garage,
is easy to break down, tow, and setup where ever you want to fly. With
a quicksilver, you need a hangar. I cannot tell you enough how much work a quicksilver
is to fly... High control forces, poor handling, sluggish, its not
my idea of fun flying. A trike is so much better. Get a ride in a 2 place trike
and a 2 place quicksilver and you will see what I mean.
Feel free to ask whatever you need, even if its not Kolb, its all about flying
and we are happy to help a new guy in any way we can.
Michael Bigelow
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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Joe
I may be misunderstanding what you are saying but any hours in a part 103
will not count for anything other than personal experience. When the sport
pilot program was announced there was a program were 103 experience would
count towards training hours required under the sport pilot license but the
deadline has passed. Since part 103 isn't recognized as a airplane, flight
time even while working on your license will not count.
Be very careful what you buy. There are allot of planes out there that are
flying as ultralights that aren't legal under part 103. I would guess MOST
planes aren't legal even a few Kolb Fire Flys. Now if you fly out of your
own strip and don't get caught you may be able to pick up some very
inexpensive illegal 103 airplanes when they become truly illegal at the end
of this year. Also you could pick up one of these illegal airplanes and get
it registered as a E-LSP if you complete the registration by the end of the
window near the end of this year.
My personal feeling is that the FAA will be cracking down on those illegal
103s after the end of the year. If one were to get caught fly a unregistered
airplane without a license it might be very difficult to get a license for
some time.
My $.02 worth
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "joe" <okjoek2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:34 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: newbie
>
> I appreciate the kindness I've been shown, and I agree, I like newcomer
> better than newbie too.
> I am not really looking into hanggliding anymore, I may not have been
> clear on that. I also after some flights don't think ppc is what I want
> to do. I want to be able to move a little faster than that, not that slow
> isn't fun too.
> I am interested in moving eventually on to sport pilot, I think I would
> like to be able to take someone with me. I just have to figure out how to
> get the time I need in and thought maybe buying a 103 plane first to get
> my hours in and then moving on to a two seater with sport pilot.
> I still have two boys in college, the business I worked for just sold and
> laid everyone off, and I just started a new job, so money isn't what it
> could be. I am however selling another business I have, soon I hope, and
> that should free up some money.
> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the
> 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It
> seems like it would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb when
> I get my two seater. Any thoughts?
> I am in Broken Arrow, Ok, its just outside of Tulsa. Gets a bit breezy
> here so I definately think 3 axis. The Kolb 103 maybe the better one to
> go with, I need experience and advice.
> Again thank you everyone for all the response and support,
> Joe Klerekoper
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102744#102744
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling |
Hi Mike,
Pumpkins would be great :) Lets see some of the after pictures or videos !!
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Fantastic Kolb websites |
Thanks Scott, (and Mike)
Wow! First photo I look at, and I get good ideas!!
That's what I'm talking about. It looks like you used PVC pipe to make a
jig. Now, I will.
For the rest of you guys, how about some more websites of your buiilding
projects. I assure you
some of us will be impressed by your quality work!
Mike
in SW Uath
>From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fantastic Kolb websites
>Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:53:41 -0700
>
>
>www.ill-EagleAviation.com
>
>Site is still pretty new. i'm still debugging and adding content on a
>regular basis.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump Mandatory SB |
You need to check the numbers on your fuel pumps.
The SB only applies to a select group of fuel pumps.
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John Williamson
Arlington, TX
Kolbra, 912ULS
http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
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Mike
Seems like one of the rules is to at least try to keep this Kolb related.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:47 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: newbie
>
>
> joe wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the
>> 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It
>> seems like it would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb
>> when I get my two seater. Any thoughts?
>>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> A quicksilver is a horrible flying plane, and with very poor performance,
> and glides like an anvil. If you want something small, for 103, that does
> not require building, get a trike. I small trike is a pleasure to fly,
> and can fly in a fair amount of wind. They are safe, have good
> performance, and glide very well. The key there is to get good trike,
> there are good ones and horrible ones. But a single seat small trike is
> a heck of a lot nicer flying than a quicksilver.
>
> Look at the Air Creations Racer with Fun 14 wing, and also look at the
> GibboGear manta wing with the BB sport trike. The Air Creations is more
> expensive, but a much better machine and worth it. A trike can also be
> stored in your garage, is easy to break down, tow, and setup where ever
> you want to fly. With a quicksilver, you need a hangar. I cannot tell
> you enough how much work a quicksilver is to fly... High control forces,
> poor handling, sluggish, its not my idea of fun flying. A trike is so
> much better. Get a ride in a 2 place trike and a 2 place quicksilver and
> you will see what I mean.
>
> Feel free to ask whatever you need, even if its not Kolb, its all about
> flying and we are happy to help a new guy in any way we can.
>
> Michael Bigelow
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102783#102783
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fantastic Kolb websites |
buiilding
| projects. I assure you
| some of us will be impressed by your quality work!
|
Mike
| in SW Uath
Mike in SW Uath!!!
Only if you promise to make your hang gliding posts to another site
other than the Kolb Builders and Pilots List.
Thanks,
john h
mkIII
PS: I can only speak for myself. I am not interested in hang gliders
or trikes or Eipper Quicksilver ULs. I am a Kolb builder and pilot.
Have been for 23 years. BTW don't intend on flying anything else any
time soon.
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen deprivation |
Be careful with this one people, it's potentially dangerous ! ! !
You may get and recognise certain symptoms such as blue fingernails, tunnel vision
or headaches etc BUT you also may not get the symptoms even though you're
suffering the effects !
You WILL have impairement of your judgement and your responses and skill levels
without realising it, regardless of your initial fitness status, and therein
lies the danger.
There was a 'spam-can' driver some years ago who went up to something like 14 or
15 thousand, which seems harmless enough, to take advantage of a great tail-wind.
He was feeling great (euphoria) and thinking things were going just fine
but didn't even notice the fuel level steadily dropping towards zero. Lucky
for him he did start to descend to his destination before he ran out of fuel .
. . but only just. You see, the original plan was to have an en-route fuel stop
!
He thought everything was OK but it was far from it. There's one side dangerous
side effect, euphoria, you think all is OK when it's not.
Second have you seen those Air Force altitude chamber tests ? Yes they pass out
at 30,000 ft+ if they don't get their oxy masks on very quickly but even at lower
levels it starts to tell. At altitudes below 20,000 ft they get them to take
ther masks off and do simple tasks like adding numbers or joining the dots
to make a drawing. They think they've done OK but when theu get down to sea level
and look at their performance, they can hardly believe it, the numbers are
almost unreadable, not aligned with the page and often wrong and the dot to
dot drawings are just a random scribble.
So second side effect, you think your skill levels are OK when they most certainly
are not. What would they have performed like in a real emergency situation.
Adrenalin does come to the rescue to a certain degree, but not enough.
So getting a Kolb above 10,000 without oxygen is potentially dangerous. Take care
!
David.
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| Subject: | Oxygen deprivation |
Listers,
Not Kolb related, but altitude related.
Years ago when my daughter was getting her private licence at Nampa,
Idaho the FBO there had the contract to air transport mental patients to
the state hospital at Blackfoot, Id. They always needed volunteers to
ride along in the C182, it's pretty lonely as a single pilot in a plane
with a crazy person. I always went along if I got the chance. The
transportee(s) arrived in chains and lightly sedated. In spite of this
some were angry, wild eyed types. After strapping them in (over the
chains) the SOP was to climb to 12 - 14,000 ft. at which point it got
real quiet in the back. We would then do a gradual cruise decent to
Blackfoot where they would be just waking up. Then I got to fly back,
while the pilot dozed. I'd do anything back then for time, even if I
couldn't log it. The moral? Watch those depressants if you want to fly
high.
Terry Davis
FS 1, Eastern Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
unrolled a roll of toilet paper from a pre-determined AGL>>
The Tiger Club used to do this regularly at the Farnborough Air Show
back in the 50`s. In those days they had a section which flew
Turbulents which was as a very basic low wing monoplane with an open
cockpit and a VW car engine conversion.
I don`t think there are many, if any, left in the country now. Certainly
they would not hold a candle in performance compared to the modern
ultralight.
I have chased a model glider which we launched at the top of the wire
from a 2 seat glider. Of course our sink rate was greater than the
models but if you threw in a quick diving 360 as soon as you dropped the
wire you can could pull up under the model, making machine gun noises
before you stalled and fell off on one wing .
cheers
Pat
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I changed the thread to more accurately reflect this.
I certainly hope Part 103 does not go the way many seem to believe
it will,( that it will be no more.) It is still an inexpensive fun way
to fly. While training will be more difficult to come by and more
expensive due to two place ultralights needing N numbers, I hope it will
still be available.
I took my training in a Quicksilver and flew a Sprint for about 90
hours before building my Ultrastar, I found flying the Quick, Kolb,
Cessna and Aeroncas to all be quite enjoyable, no one more difficult
than the other.
As has been said before, Training is the place to start. Find the
training that is available and you can afford and go from there.
There are still many new and used part 103 vehicles out there and I
think the FireFly is one of the best. I will continue to fly my
Ultrastar under Part 103 even though I hold a Sport Pilot Ticket.
Best of luck Newcomer, I hope your adventure leads to a Kolb however
it goes.
Dan Walter
Palmyra, PA.
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| Subject: | FireFly Ground Loop |
FireFlyer's & Kolbers
Experienced my first ground loop after the 635th landing. I was back
taxiing in a 14 mph crosswind when one of the tailwheel springs broke.
Luckily I was not fast taxiing. I was able to retrieve the spring and
thread it on so I could taxi the FireFly to the hangar.
The spring broke in the right angle bend the hook makes with the spring
coil. It was not a progressive failure. The broken surface did not show any
rust.
This was quickest and shortest turn I have ever made with the FireFly on
asphalt. Did not touch a wing tip or bend a gear leg.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling |
At 08:18 AM 3/25/2007, planecrazzzy wrote:
>
>10 ft faster per sec.....12 sec ....Terminal velocity - 120 mph
>
> If yer gonna jump off a building....you don't need to go higher than
>the 12 floor....
Yes, but terminal velocity for a bowling ball-- and the distance required
to reach it-- would be different for a bowling ball compared to a human
body. Both numbers will be higher for the bowling ball.
-Dana
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The citizens of the United States are getting the government they deserve.
The problem is that I'm also getting the government they deserve.
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At 01:56 PM 3/23/2007, Terry wrote:
>Gentlemen,
>
>Homer Kolb has decided to host a Fly-in again this year at his Farm on
>Saturday, June 16th...
Can one camp there?
-Dana
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The problem is that I'm also getting the government they deserve.
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
In a message dated 3/25/2007 1:54:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes:
This was quickest and shortest turn I have ever made with the FireFly on
asphalt. Did not touch a wing tip or bend a gear leg.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Jack,
Good to here no damage done! Goes to show how things seem to let loose
at the worst moment. Think I might keep one of those springs in my spare
parts bag. Might be a good idea to change those tail wheel springs at 75 hours
just like the muffler springs!
Ed Diebel FF062
Hou TX
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Light Weight = Safety is what you imply... Would you rather hit an
tree at 30
MPH in a toyota, or in a large SUV ? Your thinking is just
wrong.
The above statement jostled me to reply. A medium sized tree will stop
a motorcycle, a small car, and a large SUV in the same distance.
Your mileage will NOT vary. You will all be dead.
If you have any experience in a bulldozer you will know what I mean.
Oak tree wins every time.
BB
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Seems to me this is very much Kolb-related! -- let's not nit-pick,
and try to help a newcomer.
On Mar 25, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Richard & Martha Neilsen wrote:
> <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
>
> Mike
>
> Seems like one of the rules is to at least try to keep this Kolb
> related.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
> To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:47 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: newbie
>
>
>>
>>
>> joe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver
>>> for the 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn
>>> the basics. It seems like it would be fun being "out there".
>>> Then move up to a Kolb when I get my two seater. Any thoughts?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> A quicksilver is a horrible flying plane, and with very poor
>> performance, and glides like an anvil. If you want something
>> small, for 103, that does not require building, get a trike. I
>> small trike is a pleasure to fly, and can fly in a fair amount of
>> wind. They are safe, have good performance, and glide very
>> well. The key there is to get good trike, there are good ones
>> and horrible ones. But a single seat small trike is a heck of a
>> lot nicer flying than a quicksilver.
>>
>> Look at the Air Creations Racer with Fun 14 wing, and also look at
>> the GibboGear manta wing with the BB sport trike. The Air
>> Creations is more expensive, but a much better machine and worth
>> it. A trike can also be stored in your garage, is easy to break
>> down, tow, and setup where ever you want to fly. With a
>> quicksilver, you need a hangar. I cannot tell you enough how
>> much work a quicksilver is to fly... High control forces, poor
>> handling, sluggish, its not my idea of fun flying. A trike is so
>> much better. Get a ride in a 2 place trike and a 2 place
>> quicksilver and you will see what I mean.
>>
>> Feel free to ask whatever you need, even if its not Kolb, its all
>> about flying and we are happy to help a new guy in any way we can.
>>
>> Michael Bigelow
>>
>> --------
>> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
>> as you could have !!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102783#102783
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: newbie...we are all newbies |
Hey we are all newbies. I have flown a lot of airplanes, big and small, ove
r
the years. As far as light aircraft go, I have never seen a better built
airplane than the Kolbs. Rans does a nice job, but you cannot fold wings an
d
they tend to run a little more than the Kolbs do. Between Nelson=B9s artwork
in building and Hauck and Williamson=B9s endurance marathons, I doubt that yo
u
will find a more flexible and versatile airplane of any kind. They truly ar
e
the new Cubs.
Todd
On 3/24/07 10:12 AM, "Bob Dalton" <wiserguy@comcast.net> wrote:
> Joe,
> You are in the right place and have found the right "Aircraft". Everyone
here
> is terrific and very knowledgeable, welcome! Where are you located?
>
> Bob D.
> Manteca, CA
> Do not archive
>
> Craig Nelson=B9s Kolb(Ariz.) =AD =B3Beautiful=B2
>
>
> Bob Dalton
> wiserguy@comcast.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of joe
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 6:08 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: newbie
>
>
> Hello,
> I've been reading here for a couple of weeks. Brand new to flying. Bare
ly
> started hang gliding in 1980 and the new wife got pregnant, maybe I had a
> little something to do with that, but she stopped it, "not going to raise
this
> child alone." Now three grown boys later, I am ready to go at it again,
she
> still doesn't like the idea, but will relent I'm sure. I went in ppcs fo
r
> half a dozen flights and tried to get into that, but found it boring. I
think
> I want to fly ultra lights. I joined the local ultralight club, but it ha
s
> been so windy no one brings thier plane to the monthly meeting. Knowing
that
> I know nothing, I'm just looking to get some rides and start learning. T
hen
> decide what I want. After looking around on the internet I think I want
to
> end up with a Kolb, though again, "I know nothing."
> I don't want to make this too long, just want to say hi and try to learn
from
> you. Plan on asking some stupid questions, hope you don't mind.
> Joe Klerekoper
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102615#102615
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[quote="slyck(at)frontiernet.net"]Light Weight = Safety is what you imply... Would
you rather hit an tree at 30
MPH in a toyota, or in a large SUV ? Your thinking is just wrong.
The above statement jostled me to reply. A medium sized tree will stop
a motorcycle, a small car, and a large SUV in the same distance.
Your mileage will NOT vary. You will all be dead.
If you have any experience in a bulldozer you will know what I mean.
Oak tree wins every time.
BB
> [b]
Of course you will be stopped in the same distance, but you are ignoring a huge
part of what causes desth and injury in a crash. The larger SUV will not experience
as much vehicle crush, and is much less likely to crush the dash into your
legs, the SUV is usually built better and is more crash worthy in the same
accident. Car companies crash different cars into walls all the time testing
how much injury is done to the occupants. Same crash, same speed, some cars
protect you very well, some dont. This is crash 101 , I figured everyone would
know this.
Same with a Kolb. The hang glider has no seat belt, if you impact anything, it
will be with your body. My Kolb has seat belts, and a steel cage, in a minor
crash, I will be held in the seat the cage will deform instead of my my body....
This gives me a much better chance of living or avoiding serious injury
than a hang glider.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102864#102864
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| Subject: | Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
CPS is selling this new "Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit". It's about time for
the muffler spring replacement. Anybody using this? If so, what's the verdict
so far?
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
Good thing you were taxiing at a normal speed, instead of rolling out etc. etc.
I will start checking those springs closer on my MK III from now on.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102866#102866
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
I will start checking those springs closer on my MK III from now on.
|
| Mike
Mike:
This is when "good" differential braking is a plus. Opposite brake
would have prevented Jack's ground loop during taxi. They help keep
me straight during landings and taxiing on my airplane which is much
more prone to ground looping than a "normal" mkIII or Fire Fly.
john h
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen deprivation |
Bob,
Re: no more cigars - didja run out?? (Ah, the good old days.
Nothing like the smell of a good Cuban and 12-year single-malt wafting
up front after the bosses closed a deal. Now, many of 'em go spinning
or somesuch. ;^( )
The effects of hypoxia are quite insidious, of course. Beware
of those who say they suffer 'no effects', they are simply unaware of
the effects. Many's the time while cruising with a cabin altitude in
the 8K range that I sniffed a little O2 from the mask, and was surprised
to see everyone on the ground suddenly brighten their lights on cue.
Oxygen - it's a good thing.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen deprivation
Some 41 yrs ago, when I was 41 yrs younger, on one ferry trip from VNY
to Washington DC area, I was tired of previous trips via PSP and ABQ, so
decided to use the high route on the old com'l exam: Alamosa CO to
Walsenburg CO, filing for 13K eastbound IFR. Taxiing by an airline
Convair 340 at Alamosa, the pilot, who had hear me on radio, sneered
"You gonna get that toy over the humps?" My only discomfort at 13k was
that my cigar kept going out unless I kinda breathed in almost
continually thru the soggy thing. Later I had to go to 15 to avoid some
rotors. No more cigars.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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>
>
> joe wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the
>> 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It
>> seems like it would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb
>> when I get my two seater. Any thoughts?
>>
I would suggest that you do all the research that you can and buy the best
that you are ever going to be able to afford, rather than buy a cheap
something that will not satisfy you later. Buying progressively better is
not cheaper. As I have gotten older I finally realized that buying the
bottom of the line was not the way to save money.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
Beauford/Bob/All,
How about the cat in Howell, MI? Fell from the owner's
Tri-Pacer on takeoff (over 100 feet up), the owner made a quick landing
and found the cat on the ground, eager to go again. The owner took off
again with a piece of stovepipe pointed out the door, once established
on his 'bombing run' would let Tabby go out the chute.
Was written up in 'Flying' mag some years back. They wouldn't repeat
an urban legend, would they?
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Beauford T
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
Done that, Sir.... Science experiment.... One of Ma's White
Leghorns out of a 7AC Champ @ 6K feet over 12 Mile Island in the Ohio,
just northeast of Louisville....was 1957.... (Snip)
Beauford
FF #076
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
And don't forget the Arkansas chicken/turkey? drop.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
For those who remember:
Jennifer or Bailey?
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
B'ferd et al,
(Snip)
The famous 1970's TV citcom, WKRP, even created a parody of the Turkey
Trot Festival.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
Bailey! Definitely . Girl next door!!!! LOL
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_____
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Chmielewski
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
For those who remember:
Jennifer or Bailey?
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer <mailto:a58r@verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
B'ferd et al,
(Snip)
The famous 1970's TV citcom, WKRP, even created a parody of the Turkey Trot
Festival.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
> I will start checking those springs closer on my MK III from now on.
>
>
Better yet, convert to the compression spring set up instead of the tension
spring. These are far more reliable.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
Jen all the way!!
I loved Lonnie Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
For those who remember:
Jennifer or Bailey?
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity
B'ferd et al,
(Snip)
The famous 1970's TV citcom, WKRP, even created a parody of the
Turkey Trot Festival.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Oxygen deprivation |
My brother in law was a crew man on an old C 47 flying Chinese soldiers
over the Hump in the CBI in WWW II. He told me that they would pack the
Chinese in the back and after they got up to 12 or 13000 feet everything
would get quiet in the back.After they started to descend they would all
shake there heads and come alive again. I guess it didn't hurt them
any.
This is Kolb related because I have built and flown two of them.
Az Bald Eagle
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Chmielewski
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen deprivation
Bob,
Re: no more cigars - didja run out?? (Ah, the good old days.
Nothing like the smell of a good Cuban and 12-year single-malt wafting
up front after the bosses closed a deal. Now, many of 'em go spinning
or somesuch. ;^( )
The effects of hypoxia are quite insidious, of course. Beware
of those who say they suffer 'no effects', they are simply unaware of
the effects. Many's the time while cruising with a cabin altitude in
the 8K range that I sniffed a little O2 from the mask, and was surprised
to see everyone on the ground suddenly brighten their lights on cue.
Oxygen - it's a good thing.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Noyer
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oxygen deprivation
Some 41 yrs ago, when I was 41 yrs younger, on one ferry trip from
VNY to Washington DC area, I was tired of previous trips via PSP and
ABQ, so decided to use the high route on the old com'l exam: Alamosa CO
to Walsenburg CO, filing for 13K eastbound IFR. Taxiing by an airline
Convair 340 at Alamosa, the pilot, who had hear me on radio, sneered
"You gonna get that toy over the humps?" My only discomfort at 13k was
that my cigar kept going out unless I kinda breathed in almost
continually thru the soggy thing. Later I had to go to 15 to avoid some
rotors. No more cigars.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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3/25/2007 11:07 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley - when in May? |
You'd best look into accomodation perty sudden. I think it's about filled
up. We'll be there at Goulding's Resort the weekend of May
18/19/20. Lar.
On 3/24/07, John H Murphy <jhm9812@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> With the purchase of my trailer, I'm thinking of Monument Valley this May.
> What are the dates folks are going? I guess I should look into
> accomodations.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar bowling enthusiasts' next activity |
I did the throwing out the toilet paper thing in my Aerobatic Cessna 150, it was
great fun. I could loop around it, get all sorts of deformations in the string
by pulling high G's around it. I liked the rolls where the core was not
glued on the best, they floated a lot longer. If the roll stayed attached, it
would fall before I was done with it.
This is a great idea I have not thought of in a long time, its time to do it now
with the MK III ( non aerobatic ) but it will still be loads of fun.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
In a message dated 3/25/2007 6:02:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jhm9812@yahoo.com writes:
CPS is selling this new "Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit". It's about time
for the muffler spring replacement. Anybody using this? If so, what's the
verdict so far?
I like mine fine, but I recommend cutting off all the spring hooks before you
put it on. I also had to use some longer bolts to avoid having to cut any
off the ball joint.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
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Mike, So you say I have to hit the tree at somewhere over my best glide
speed and you get to hit it below your stall and you call that equal.
Comparing aircraft to cars can only go so far as cars lack the ability to
move in three dimensions which greatly amplify the survivability of the
aircraft. We also have the ability to selectively sacrifice structure to
further ameliorate crash severity.
In the book, "Mountain Flying" the author passes on one of the best pieces
of information I've ever gotten. At 60 mph all the distance required to
safely stop a 2500 lb airplane is 9 feet. If you are prepared for the crash
by being belted in and the belts are properly installed, that 9 feet makes
for a G force the human body can withstand without serious injury.
Now take the 250 lb. hang glider and pilot flying into something at 20 mph.
Since the force is proprtional to the square of the speed, it has already
been reduced by a factor of 8 before we factor in having 1/10 the mass to
start with.
So Mike, if you want to fly Suburbans into fixed bridge abuttments, well,
this is America, so feel free. I'll take the lightest most structurally
efficient aircraft suitable to the purpose.
Rick
PS Hang glider pilots don't jump. Parachutists jump. Hang gliders fly like
every other aircraft.
On 3/25/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> > joe wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I have wondered if I shouldn't get something like a quicksilver for the
> >> 103, hope that is not a dirty word here, just to learn the basics. It
> >> seems like it would be fun being "out there". Then move up to a Kolb
> >> when I get my two seater. Any thoughts?
> >>
>
>
> I would suggest that you do all the research that you can and buy the best
> that you are ever going to be able to afford, rather than buy a cheap
> something that will not satisfy you later. Buying progressively better is
> not cheaper. As I have gotten older I finally realized that buying the
> bottom of the line was not the way to save money.
> Larry, Oregon
>
> do not archive
>
>
--
Rick Girard
"Ya'll drop on in"
takes on a whole new meaning
when you live at the airport.
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
At 07:36 PM 3/25/07 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>Better yet, convert to the compression spring set up instead of the tension
>spring. These are far more reliable.
Denny,
Where can you purchase very small ones?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
At 05:14 PM 3/25/07 -0500, you wrote:
.....................
>This is when "good" differential braking is a plus. Opposite brake
>would have prevented Jack's ground loop during taxi. They help keep
>me straight during landings and taxiing on my airplane which is much
>more prone to ground looping than a "normal" mkIII or Fire Fly.
John,
I am not sure that differential braking would have helped. It was all over
in an eye blink. I was staight with the runway and the next second I was
headed 180 degrees in the other direction.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Dana,
I can't answer that directly but that same weekend there is a fly-in
at Shreveport North in York
County which is near Wellsville, PA, from Friday through Sunday.
It is a major Ultralight event each year. They have lodging and
food available and some have used it as a stop over on the way to/or
from Homer's in the past. Look it up at: footlightranch.com
Even some of the local guys camp out there and fly from there to
Homer's place. Most of the PA kolb guys will attend both fly-ins.
I would recommend that option if you are planing to fly.
If you will be driving, perhaps Terry will find out and can answer
your question better than I can, but I do know we want to be
careful not to impose too much on our gracious host and his
beautiful property.
Gene Z
On Mar 25, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Dana Hague wrote:
> At 01:56 PM 3/23/2007, Terry wrote:
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> Homer Kolb has decided to host a Fly-in again this year at his
>> Farm on
>> Saturday, June 16th...
>
> Can one camp there?
>
> -Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
I've used them for 5 years now and have been very reliable. They do take some worry
out of springs breaking...
Kip
Firestar II
building a Waiex at the moment
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Kip
Firestar II (born September 2000)
Atlanta, GA
N111KX
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
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| Jack B. Hart FF004
Jack:
Differential brakes would have kept you straight. Have to stay ahead
of the airplane.
Kolb pilots get spoiled because they can drive them around on the
ground like a fork lift. ;-)
Well, most of the time.
john h
mkIII
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At 10:09 PM 3/25/2007, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>Even some of the local guys camp out there and fly from there to
>Homer's place. Most of the PA kolb guys will attend both fly-ins.
>I would recommend that option if you are planing to fly.
>
>If you will be driving, perhaps Terry will find out and can answer
>your question better than I can, but I do know we want to be
>careful not to impose too much on our gracious host and his
>beautiful property.
Hmmm, sounds attractive... but Wellsville is another 100 miles in the wrong
direction (from CT). If I can attend, I'd be trailering my Ultrastar to
PA... not gonna fly it that far until I have lots more time on it than I
will by then.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly Ground Loop |
At 11:07 PM 3/25/2007, you wrote:
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>John,
>
>I am not sure that differential braking would have helped. It was all over
>in an eye blink. I was staight with the runway and the next second I was
>headed 180 degrees in the other direction.
>
>Jack B. Hart FF004
I did that once - off St. Simon's Island. Lost a spring while landing on a
sand
bar (on a stock Firestar tail wheel).
Just happened to notice it before I took off. Couldn't find the missing one
- so it seemed
only reasonable to take the other one off and let it caster, rather than
leave on just the one. They don't caster too well.
My next landing was on Jekyll Island and I lost almost complete control as
soon as my rear
wheel touched down - YEEFRIGGINHAAA.
Did a nice 45 degree turn across the grass and taxie/parking area.
If there had been any planes there I would have hit them.
My friend - sitting on the ground thought I was doing it on purpose and
thought it was hilarious. Better to take the wheel off & let it work as a skid.
Got one of them real $250 wheels on my new plane.
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using |
it?
At 10:17 PM 3/25/2007, you wrote:
>
>I've used them for 5 years now and have been very reliable. They do
>take some worry out of springs breaking...
>Kip
>Firestar II
>building a Waiex at the moment
>
>--------
>Kip
>Firestar II (born September 2000)
>Atlanta, GA
>N111KX
The brackets are stainless steel and will cut into the bolts after a
while. I think they finally replaced
the old AN bolts with stainless steel. I know we did it ourselves.
Seems like every time you
make something better, you find a new problem. I was only able to get
one on my plane because
of a clearance problem with the other joint.
But I like them.
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
I made my own. Here are the ones on the MKIII and on the FSII. With 5/16" bolts,
it will take a while to wear through them...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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