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1. 02:51 AM - Re: Re: vinyl graphics vs painting (pat ladd)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: vinyl graphics vs painting (Rex Rodebush)
3. 05:59 AM - Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? (Paul Petty)
4. 06:29 AM - Re: vinyl graphics vs painting (Paul Petty)
5. 06:39 AM - Wanted-Kolb Instructor Pilot (Flyboy7)
6. 06:41 AM - NOTAM For Sun and Fun 2007 (John Hauck)
7. 06:41 AM - Re: vinyl graphics vs painting (Paul Petty)
8. 06:53 AM - Re: NOTAM For Sun and Fun 2007 (Paul Petty)
9. 07:31 AM - Re: Check out Sport Pilot Ready Kit Aircraft: STOL CH 701 - the (jb92563)
10. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? (TheWanderingWench)
11. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? (N27SB@aol.com)
12. 09:22 AM - Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer (Dana Hague)
13. 10:07 AM - Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer (George T. Alexander, Jr.)
14. 10:38 AM - Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer (Gene Ledbetter)
15. 11:31 AM - Re: Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? (TheWanderingWench)
16. 11:59 AM - Fly-in (Terry)
17. 12:00 PM - Re: Wanted-Kolb Instructor Pilot (joe)
18. 02:15 PM - Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (David Lehman)
19. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? (George Thompson)
20. 05:11 PM - Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? (BMWBikeCrz@aol.com)
21. 06:04 PM - Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? (Jack B. Hart)
22. 06:44 PM - Re: Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
23. 06:51 PM - Re: Fly-in (Steven Green)
24. 07:13 PM - Props and engine mount (Ron)
25. 07:21 PM - Re: Props and engine mount (Richard Pike)
26. 07:32 PM - Re: Props and engine mount (John Hauck)
27. 08:46 PM - Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer (Dana Hague)
28. 08:47 PM - Re: Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? (Dana Hague)
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Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics vs painting |
I also would be interested in where to obtain & how well it holds.>>
Hi,
not quite the same but I once covered my glider trailer, about 35 ft long,
with blue woodgrain effect wallpaper. The effect was spectcular but
unfortunately towing to a neighbouring airfield in the rain the whole lot
came off.
Travelling behind were two little old ladies in an ancient car a little
larger than a Mini. The old dears carefully picked up all the wet, sticky,
wallpaper, folded it up and put it in their car. When I stopped a few miles
further on to check the trailer the old girls pulled up and proudly
presented me with this pile of soggy, gluey paper because `they thought I
would want it`.
I thanked them profusely and dumped the lot over the hedge as soon as they
were out of sight.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics vs painting |
We use vinyl graphics on our company pickups and also on our manufactured equipment
which goes into some of the worst chemical and process enviorments you can
imagine. The stuff we use has held up well for years.
I plan to use them for my N-numbers and some trim.
Rex
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Subject: | Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan 08? |
John W,
Our Kolbra's and the mark's cant be registered as E-LSA? Not that I plan to do
such but out of curiousity, what would one have to do to register a Kolb as E-LSA?
Is this something an individual can do or does it require certification action
between TNK and the FAA?
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics vs painting |
John H all,
Soapy water works however i used the solution the company I bought the 3M vinyl from. It's called "Splash" Works great. Im sure Vic can tell us much more about this process. For me I researched it and landed at this place>>>> http://www.jsisign.com/products/supercast.html You want a good grade of vinyl. I used 3M high performance vinyl. As for application it was easy. The directions on the "Splash" say to mist the solution on and slide the vinyl into place then squgee it. I found that this was no good and it may be because of the fabric substraight. I had to "Flood" the surface AND the vinyl in order to move the squares into their place. One thing is for sure when you squgee it it better be where you want it [Wink] As a tip for marking I used water based pens. I bought a 15"X10yd roll and had a girl in FL cut it out. I sent her the Kolbra decal and she scanned and made me the same decals in the same blue color. She also made me my N numbers and the "Builder/pilot" in script. Real neat. Cost for the vinyl was $45.00 and she only wated to charge me for shipping but I sent her $50.00 anyway. Any local graphics shop can do this however either Vic or someone who knows aircraft will have the talent to make your graphics look "Aircrafty" hehehe
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Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Wanted-Kolb Instructor Pilot |
I'm in the process of buying a Mark III Classic which I haven't taken possesion
of yet. I have 3 hours of tailwheel time and would like to get some additional
instruction in type prior to getting the plane. Does anyone know of an instructor
with a Mark III willing to provide instruction. I would prefer someone
in the Minneapolis, MN area if possible.
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Subject: | NOTAM For Sun and Fun 2007 |
Morning Folks:
Here is the NOTAM for Sun and Fun 2007:
http://www.faa.gov/NTAP/sunnfun.pdf
The part that pertains to UL's is contained on page 24 and 25, a very
small diagram and probably 10 lines of info.
It takes 36 pages for GA types to land at Lakeland and less than a
page for us UL types, with or without a radio. ;-)
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: vinyl graphics vs painting |
oops!
Left one part out....the checker board squares were just peal,wet and apply. The
decals have transfer paper that hold them in place till you finish the squgee
deal. Then you wait 2 minutes, flood the paper and carefully peal the paper
off at a 45 degree angle! Squgee???? Is that even close to being spelled right?
[Rolling Eyes]
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Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Re: NOTAM For Sun and Fun 2007 |
HAHAHA I like the "No radio (Nordo) aircraft Not authorized" (except ultralights)
! SO the faa does call UL's "aircraft"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Re: Check out Sport Pilot Ready Kit Aircraft: STOL CH 701 - |
the
Thanks,
Thats encouraging to know and perhaps a Rotax 447 is in my future when the Cuyuna
gets weak.
Great Pics.
Ray
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Subject: | Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan |
08?
After Jan. 31, 2008, in order to sell an E-LSA kit,
the manufacturer must have a certified LSA and that is
what they use to get approval to make E-LSA kits. No
LSA - no E-LSA kits after 1-31-08. Since the kit you
now have - or might buy in the next few months -
doesn't have an LSA prototype, your only option is to
either get it finished and registered E-LSA before the
deadline, or build it under the Amateur-built
catagory. As John says, then there is no deadline.
The downside to Amateur-built is that while you, as
builder, can do your annual yourself, any future
owners will not be able to do it themselves.
Arty Trost
--- John Williamson <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> <kolbrapilot1@tx.rr.com>
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> You can not buy a Kit of anything from TNK and
> register it as E-LSA.
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> They are not offering a kit in E-LSA form.
>
> E-LSA right now is only for the transitioning
> ultralights and illegal/unregistered aircraft and
> just two or three Kits that manufacurers are
> offering as E-LSA Kits.
>
> If you buy a kit, you have no deadline because you
> will build it as Experimental-Amateur Built.
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> Arlington, TX
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Subject: | Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan |
08?
In a message dated 3/27/2007 10:14:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
thewanderingwench@yahoo.com writes:
The downside to Amateur-built is that while you, as
builder, can do your annual yourself, any future
owners will not be able to do it themselves.
Arty Trost
Just a thought here, But
If you sell an amateur built and the new owner must use an A&P doesn't that
help in limiting the sellers future liability?
Steve
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Subject: | Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer |
One thing I see from all of the trailer pictures is that they all seem to
have the plane facing backwards in the trailer. Mine (came with the plane)
is set up the other way, which requires some careful guiding the plane
in. Don't think I could do it the other way though as it'd put the weight
too far back.
-Dana
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Subject: | Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer |
Dana:
Beauford's Firefly goes in head first.
http://gtalexander.home.att.net/Main_trailer_kolb.htm
George Alexander
http://gtalexander.home.att.net
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From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dana Hague
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer
One thing I see from all of the trailer pictures is that they all seem to
have the plane facing backwards in the trailer. Mine (came with the plane)
is set up the other way, which requires some careful guiding the plane in.
Don't think I could do it the other way though as it'd put the weight too
far back.
<<<<SNIP>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer |
Dana,
My Firefly also loads headfirst. I installed 2 X 2 guides for the
wheels to keep it centered. You can see pictures at
homepage.mac.com/gene1930
Gene
On Mar 27, 2007, at 1:07 PM, George T. Alexander, Jr. wrote:
> <gtalexander@att.net>
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> Dana:
> Beauford's Firefly goes in head first.
>
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Subject: | Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan |
08?
No. The new owner will almost certainly be flying it
before the next annual.
AND - would you want to pay a lawyer to defend
yourself - even if you eventually win?
There's been a lot written (on this list I think, as
well as elsewhere) that pulling off the engine or the
wings and selling the plane as "unflyable as sold" is
a biggie to help avoid liability. I've even seen
boiler plate language for the sales contract, so the
buyer is signing that s/he realizes that they're
buying parts, not a flying machine. But, I'm NOT a
lawyer . Check with EAA - I think they have the info.
Arty Trost
--- N27SB@aol.com wrote:
>
> Just a thought here, But
>
> If you sell an amateur built and the new owner must
> use an A&P doesn't that
> help in limiting the sellers future liability?
>
>
> Steve
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>
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Dana,
Talking to Chuck Davis and he had a good idea for you to be able to camp
over at Smoketown airport. You could pull your trailer right next to
Chucks hanger which is on the end and out of the way. I know you could
also camp out there as well. Steve Green camped there last year when he
flew up here from Tennessee last summer. Smoketown is only 35 miles
from Homer's and you could join the rest of us for our mass flight to
Homer's that morning! Later you could also join us in a flight over to
Shreveport North if you would be interested.
Let me know if this sounds interesting and I will speak to the owner of
the airport about you staying there. He's a real nice guy!
Terry - FireFly #95
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Subject: | Re: Wanted-Kolb Instructor Pilot |
I am in the Tulsa area and am having trouble finding someone too. I went to the
EAA site and there were two in my area listed, but after contacting neither
is still doing it.
Joe
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
I have 30+ hours on mine... A lot better than springs in my estimation...
I have stainless bolts and they're wearing... My best guesstimate is
stainless bolt replacement at around 40-50 hours... No broken springs
though...
DVD
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On 3/25/07, John H Murphy <jhm9812@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> CPS is selling this new "Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit". It's about
> time for the muffler spring replacement. Anybody using this? If so, what's
> the verdict so far?
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before Jan |
08?
Have them sign a statement that says " This machine will kill you"and I
understand this.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "TheWanderingWench" <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Building a kit and getting it N numbered before
Jan 08?
> <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
>
> No. The new owner will almost certainly be flying it
> before the next annual.
>
> AND - would you want to pay a lawyer to defend
> yourself - even if you eventually win?
>
> There's been a lot written (on this list I think, as
> well as elsewhere) that pulling off the engine or the
> wings and selling the plane as "unflyable as sold" is
> a biggie to help avoid liability. I've even seen
> boiler plate language for the sales contract, so the
> buyer is signing that s/he realizes that they're
> buying parts, not a flying machine. But, I'm NOT a
> lawyer . Check with EAA - I think they have the info.
>
> Arty Trost
>
>
> --- N27SB@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a thought here, But
>>
>> If you sell an amateur built and the new owner must
>> use an A&P doesn't that
>> help in limiting the sellers future liability?
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com
>
> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
> Helen Keller
>
> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
>
>
> --
> 2:31 PM
>
>
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Subject: | Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? |
I was talking to a couple of guys at lunch that fly Trikes and Gyro Copters
Thier feeling is that The FAA is not too concerned with Single seat
ultralights ...
I have a 5 rib firestar with a 377 Rotax ...
Are we going to get enough added weight alowance in time or should I go
ahead and do the N Number Thing ?
Thanks !
Dave
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Subject: | Re: Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit - anyone using it? |
At 03:01 PM 3/25/07 -0700, you wrote:
>
>CPS is selling this new "Exhaust Ball Joint Conversion Kit". It's about time for
the muffler spring replacement. Anybody using this? If so, what's the verdict
so far?
>
John,
I have been using them for 139 hours on the Victor 1+. I had to cut the
original pipe and weld in a second ball joint. The single cylinder engine
power impulse is quite high so I discarded the original compression spring
and replaced them with small die springs ordered from McMaster-Carr. I
believe the trick is get enough joint compression so that it can move/rotate
due to thermal expansion, but not move due to power impulse. After 139 hours
the bolts show no wear.
The springs I used can be seen on the bottom of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly79a.html
The best photo of the setup is shown on the bottom of:
http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly79.html
If I had it to do over, I would use Richard Pikes method. If one fabricated
the end through pieces for small diameter bolts, you would end up with much
lighter, stronger and very inexpensive clamping system than what I have.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? |
Dave
My understanding is they the FAA is happy with part 103 as it stands.
The question is are you going to be caught? I agree over weight
Ultralights are not something they are going to look for but at the
wrong place and time they might use you as a example. Do you feel lucky?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIc
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From: BMWBikeCrz@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ???
I was talking to a couple of guys at lunch that fly Trikes and Gyro
Copters Thier feeling is that The FAA is not too concerned with Single
seat ultralights ...
I have a 5 rib firestar with a 377 Rotax ...
Are we going to get enough added weight alowance in time or should I
go ahead and do the N Number Thing ?
Thanks !
Dave
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Terry,
I would like to overnight at Smoketown for the gathering at Homer's.
It's a great airport three resturants within walking distance and plenty
of Kolb owners nearby!!
Steven
Let me know if this sounds interesting and I will speak to the owner of
the airport about you staying there. He's a real nice guy!
Terry - FireFly #95
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Subject: | Props and engine mount |
for all the senior Kolbers here is a question. I am about to weld in place the
engine mount. I have now the option of lowering the mount a bit to reduce thrust
line. I have done some measuring and it looks like I can reduce it some with
a 2 inch prop clearance from the tail boom and have a max size of a 68 inch
prop. I figure that at best the rubber mount would flex .5 inch which would still
give me ample clearance, from the boom. Or I could of course go to a 3 inch
clearance from the boom and raise the mount an inch.
I guess the best question to ask is what is the minimum prop I can use and still
be on par with the best performance. I know there are some more variables I
can throw into this. But some ideas from which I can work will be real good.
The next item is the angle of the mount. I am following the original mount bed
angle on the assumption that Dennis Souder got it right when he figured it. Any
opinions about that, shell I change it and if so why?
John H what prop size and kind are you using?
Anyone using a 4 blade?
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Subject: | Re: Props and engine mount |
What engine and reduction ratio?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldpoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <captainron1@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Props and engine mount
>
> for all the senior Kolbers here is a question. I am about to weld in place
> the engine mount. I have now the option of lowering the mount a bit to
> reduce thrust line. I have done some measuring and it looks like I can
> reduce it some with a 2 inch prop clearance from the tail boom and have a
> max size of a 68 inch prop. I figure that at best the rubber mount would
> flex .5 inch which would still give me ample clearance, from the boom. Or
> I could of course go to a 3 inch clearance from the boom and raise the
> mount an inch.
> I guess the best question to ask is what is the minimum prop I can use and
> still be on par with the best performance. I know there are some more
> variables I can throw into this. But some ideas from which I can work will
> be real good.
> The next item is the angle of the mount. I am following the original mount
> bed angle on the assumption that Dennis Souder got it right when he
> figured it. Any opinions about that, shell I change it and if so why?
> John H what prop size and kind are you using?
> Anyone using a 4 blade?
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Props and engine mount |
| Anyone using a 4 blade? Ron Mason
Ron:
I am a Warp Drive man. Been using strickly Warp Drive since September
1993.
I have used 70 and 72 inch three blade props. Both work well. The 6
ft prop is a little noiser than the 70" prop.
I like to keep the thrust line as low as possible. The 72" prop had
3/4" tail boom clearance. Close proximity to tail boom and other
structure may increase the noise level.
I have a 70" prop waiting to be mounted on the new 912ULS.
I see no reason to change the design and attitude of the standard Kolb
engine mount. I think Homer Kolb knew what he was doing a lot better
than most of us.
As far as what prop to use for your Geo engine and redrive, I have no
idea.
john h
mkIII
PS: John W uses a 68" 3 blade Warp Drive on his Kolbra.
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Subject: | Re: Securing Firestar in enclosed trailer |
At 01:38 PM 3/27/2007, Gene Ledbetter wrote:
>My Firefly also loads headfirst. I installed 2 X 2 guides for the
>wheels to keep it centered. You can see pictures at
>homepage.mac.com/gene1930
Well, your trailer's sure wider than mine! You remove the wings completely
for transport???
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Fire Star Logistics ??? |
At 08:11 PM 3/27/2007, BMWBikeCrz@aol.com wrote:
>I was talking to a couple of guys at lunch that fly Trikes and Gyro
>Copters Thier feeling is that The FAA is not too concerned with Single
>seat ultralights ...
>
>I have a 5 rib firestar with a 377 Rotax ...
>
>Are we going to get enough added weight alowance in time or should I go
>ahead and do the N Number Thing ?
There will be no "added weight allowance" in time. The FAA has repeatedly
said that they intend to leave Part 103 untouched. Anything heavier is
supposed to go LSA.
Pilots of heavy single seaters will probably get away with it until they
have an accident or attract attention... at which time they'll find they're
flying an unregistered aircraft with no airworthiness certificate and no
annual.
-Dana
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