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1. 04:29 AM - Re: Re: BRS location (Larry Bourne)
2. 07:49 AM - Covering repair (jb92563)
3. 08:01 AM - Re: Covering repair (knowvne@aol.com)
4. 08:05 AM - Re: Covering repair (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
5. 08:38 AM - Re: Covering repair (knowvne@aol.com)
6. 08:42 AM - re brs location (boyd)
7. 08:42 AM - power off climb (boyd)
8. 08:58 AM - Re: Covering repair (John Hauck)
9. 09:33 AM - Re: Covering repair (knowvne@aol.com)
10. 11:08 AM - Re: power off climb (jb92563)
11. 11:24 AM - Re: power off climb (JetPilot)
12. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: power off climb (Richard Pike)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: BRS location (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
14. 01:03 PM - just flying (Larry Cottrell)
15. 02:38 PM - Head sets (again) (Paul Petty)
16. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: power off climb (knowvne@aol.com)
17. 02:57 PM - STS RADIO & FLIGHTTECH INTERCON (Rick Pearce)
18. 04:08 PM - Re: Forced landing (Thom Riddle)
19. 04:10 PM - Re: re brs location (Larry Bourne)
20. 04:30 PM - Re: just flying (JetPilot)
21. 04:32 PM - Re: just flying (Larry Bourne)
22. 05:06 PM - Kolb Wing Attach Points (JetPilot)
23. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: just flying (Larry Cottrell)
24. 05:36 PM - Re: just flying (Larry Cottrell)
25. 05:37 PM - Cleaning Air Filters (frank & margie)
26. 06:10 PM - Re: Cleaning Air Filters (Russ Kinne)
27. 08:04 PM - Re: just flying (Larry Bourne)
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| Subject: | Re: BRS location |
I had exactly the same thought and concern, so made spacers out of scrap
tubing to hold the strut against one side of that 1" spread. Prob'ly makes
no difference, but I feel better. Lar.
On 4/4/07, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> My BRS is in the center between the wings, as you can see in the attached
> picture. It does make me wonder if it would deploy after a wing
> fialure. The structure looks very strong overall, but the pin that attaches
> the wing to the center section has always made me wonder. I have calculated
> the forces and they are well below the shear level of the pin, but shear
> forces listed for AN hardware do not take into account this large 1 inch
> spread with the wing load in the center of the pin which creates more of a
> bending force, not a shear force on the pin... I have been tempted to drill
> the holes out, and go with one size larger pin, but removing material from
> the tongues could create its own weakness in negative G loads....
>
> Mike
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> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have
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I was wondering if anyone has some suggestions for fixing small holes and tears
in my US covering?
What is the US covered with?
I have never dealt with aircraft facbric coverings and wonder what the best way
to fix small wing covering tears.
There is a 6" tear on the wing top by the root and a quarter sized hole on the
wing top at the tip.
What sort of method and materials should I use to prepare, patch and finish these
repairs.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Covering repair |
HI RAY
FOR A 6 INCH TEAR I STRONGLY SUGGEST REMOVING THE SAIL AND HAVING A
PATCH SEWN
IN PLACE......
FOR A LITTLE HOLE TRY THIS http://www.tear-aid.com
Mark Vaughn
-----Original Message-----
From: jb92563@yahoo.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Covering repair
I was wondering if anyone has some suggestions for fixing small holes
and tears
in my US covering?
What is the US covered with?
I have never dealt with aircraft facbric coverings and wonder what the
best way
to fix small wing covering tears.
There is a 6" tear on the wing top by the root and a quarter sized
hole on the
wing top at the tip.
What sort of method and materials should I use to prepare, patch and
finish
these repairs.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Covering repair |
The repairs Procedure you will need, will determin what your plane is covered
with You will have to know if its covered with the stits process and
determing what kind of paint it was painted with if it was painted with Polytone
verses Aerothane it will be a easier repair for you never having used this
material before I dont believe Your wings are covered with Sailcloth so removing
them and sewing on a patch is out of the question
Give us more info in Fabric and Paint
Ellery In Maine
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| Subject: | Re: Covering repair |
Oooops! Wrong List HAHAHAHAHA
YES I would agree with what Ellery said..
I thought I was responding to A Hang glider sail Question...
My Apologies to the list..
Mark Vaughn
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To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering repair
The repairs Procedure you will need, will determin what your plane is
covered with You will have to know if its covered with the stits
process and determing what kind of paint it was painted with if it was
painted with Polytone verses Aerothane it will be a easier repair for
you never having used this material before I dont believe Your wings
are covered with Sailcloth so removing them and sewing on a patch is
out of the question
Give us more info in Fabric and Paint
Ellery In Maine
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>>>>>>>>>>>
I had exactly the same thought and concern, so made spacers out of scrap
tubing to hold the strut against one side of that 1" spread. Prob'ly makes
no difference, but I feel better. Lar.
On 4/4/07, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
My BRS is in the center between the wings, as you can see in the attached
picture. It does make me wonder if it would deploy after a wing fialure.
The structure looks very strong overall, but the pin that attaches the wing
to the center section has always made me wonder. I have calculated the
forces and they are well below the shear level of the pin, but shear forces
listed for AN hardware do not take into account this large 1 inch spread
with the wing load in the center of the pin which creates more of a bending
force, not a shear force on the pin... I have been tempted to drill the
holes out, and go with one size larger pin, but removing material from the
tongues could create its own weakness in negative G loads....
Mike
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
but the pin that attaches the wing to the center section has always made me
wonder.
The pin that attaches the wing to the center section has never been my
concern.... I would think that the pressure on that pin is straight in
toward the center section.... think about it, in flight the wing is held
down by the lift strut,,, attached in the center.... if the lift is equal
on the outboard half compared to the inboard half... all the weight is
being held by the lift strut... and because it is attached at an angle,
the force on the wing attach point is inward. Not up.... the bolts that
holds the most stress would be the lift strut attach points.
Boyd
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> Can't resist asking -- you say "I rarely see a 800ft/minute power
> off climb in my Kolb."??? -- Climb?
>
I've been there and done that.... flying at about 6500 to 7000 ft along the
rocky mountains.... I hit a mountain wave that lasted for around 4 miles.
I noticed the altitude going up "fast" so I pulled the power and I was
still going up.... pulled in some flaps so I could really push the nose
over and by the time I got out of the wave I was holding 10,000 ft. Trying
to outguess my situation, I was probably in a 700 to 800 ft a min decent
configuration, had I been in calm air. But in reality was going up at 1000
ft/min. Making the wave 1700 to 1800 f/min. one of my worst fears at the
time is I would hit the down side of the wave and wish I had more space
between me and the ground. This was in a valley with the end shaping into
a bowl, and the wind blowing down the valley hit the end and had nowhere to
go but up. Very little turbulence,, just a very smooth ride to the sky.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Covering repair |
A
| PATCH SEWN
| IN PLACE......
| FOR A LITTLE HOLE TRY THIS http://www.tear-aid.com
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| Mark Vaughn
Mark V:
First, I was going to ask you how to remove the sail, but changed my
mind.
In fact, did not know we were using sails on Kolbs.
Most use polyester dacron and the old Stitts covering process, which
was supplied with the Ultrastar kits, and later renamed Polyfiber
process.
Correct fabric covering and repair procedure is imperative to safe
flight.
Suggest you contact Jim and Dondi Miller, 1-877-877-3334, and get your
fabric problem sorted out.
That is the correct number. I went as far as to call Jim and say
hello.
Kolbs don't fly well without fabric.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Covering repair |
Hi John
Yea I thought I was responding to another List I belong too..
it read like a HangGlider sail Repair question.... My Apologies..
Mark Vaughn
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From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Covering repair
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Mark V:
First, I was going to ask you how to remove the sail, but changed my
mind.
In fact, did not know we were using sails on Kolbs.
Most use polyester dacron and the old Stitts covering process, which
was supplied with the Ultrastar kits, and later renamed Polyfiber
process.
Correct fabric covering and repair procedure is imperative to safe
flight.
Suggest you contact Jim and Dondi Miller, 1-877-877-3334, and get your
fabric problem sorted out.
That is the correct number. I went as far as to call Jim and say
hello.
Kolbs don't fly well without fabric.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: power off climb |
Welcome to the world of soaring mountain wave flight.
The best lift is on the front (upwind) side of the wave and is ussually marked
by Lenticular clouds
There are also additional standing waves down wind of the Primary wave.....similar
to the water going over a rock in a stream.
But beware the rotor, as with lift around 2,000 fpm up there must be the equivalent
2,000 fpm down and the potential for a real nasty rotor, so exit upwind of
the wave or perpendicular and straight downwind quick as you can, at no more
than Manuevering speed(Va).
The rotor has been know to roll biggish aircraft (DC-3) onto their backs in an
instant when flying through rotor parallel to the leading edge of a wave.
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: power off climb |
Great pictures and illistrations. Makes me want to go out and find some lenticular
clouds to play in [Wink] Unfortunately, we dont get those to often here
in Florida :(
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: power off climb |
Head north. The wind aloft here at 9000 is 310 at 50, so a lap around Mount
Mitchell just south of here would set your chickens free...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 2:24 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: power off climb
>
> Great pictures and illistrations. Makes me want to go out and find some
> lenticular clouds to play in [Wink] Unfortunately, we dont get those to
> often here in Florida :(
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105180#105180
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| Subject: | Re: BRS location |
<<... why is it that most Kolbs I've seen with a BRS have it mounted
right on top of the wing root? Seems that'd be the worst possible
place...
if the wings fold, having the BRS in between would seem to be the worst
possible place, no? -Dana >>
Dana -
Keeping in mind that the BRS fires a projectile that pulls your chute
out at a velocity of 100 feet per second, any direction your BRS launch
tube is aimed, as long as it's generally pointed AWAY from the airplane,
will likely give you a clear path for your parachute to open without
interference. My BRS is mounted on top, with the rocket pointed
straight up.
On my Mark-III, the procedure is simple.
I practice this mentally before every flight:
1. Verify it's an emergency sufficient in magnitude to deploy the BRS.
2. Hit the ignition kill switch.
3. Pull the big red handle.
Also, I like to think that "wings folding" is probably pretty low on my
list of possible emergencies that might happen. I fly my plane gently!
;-)
Dennis Kirby
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Hi,
The weather turned out sunny and the winds finally calmed down enough
to have fun while flying. It was 34 degrees when I left. I flew for 2
hours and 34 minutes. The biggest reason for the flight was to check
endurance of both the fuel supply and myself. I flew 154 miles, using
about 11 gallons of gas. I refueled in-flight three times, thinking that
I would try my in-flight restart some other time :-) Rather than run it
out of gas and then refuel. When I landed I still had about 7 gallons
of fuel left.
I flew to the Alvord Desert and the Steen's Mt. mostly just to watch
for wildlife.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5373976601721444854
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7146891146128589017
I saw Golden Eagles, coyotes,Antelope, Big Horn Sheep,and Wild Horses.
I tried to take movies of the Sheep, but my little camera and the
currents along the cliff's make for a bit more excitement than I was
prepared for. I first saw the sheep clustered together right on top of a
knob on the hill. The problem with the camera is that I either need to
be right on top of them, or have the telephoto zoomed in and up to my
eye. I consider myself to be fairly "ballsey", but I try my best to draw
the line at stupid. :-/ So a grainy picture is all you get.
On the way home I thought that I would get a bit of practice so that
I wouldn't get bored when Arty and I follow the roads on the trip to
Texas.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5346820567464344871
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Head sets (again) |
Hey guys,
I know headsets have been hashed out here many times on the Kolb list. However
I have a good friend that will be working this booth at SNF and really thinks
this would be a great headset for Kolb aircraft. Might be worth checking out.
http://www.clarityaloft.com/
this is not an advertisment only passing along to any interested.
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Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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| Subject: | Re: power off climb |
MIKE
Maybe not but your EAST WEST convergence is AWESOME...
With those sort of N to S cloud streets you don't need those
Lenticulars 8-)
Some buddies went to the GA boarder last weekend from Rt 4 in Orlando
They said all along the way it was 800 UP..... Talking about good Gas
Mileage 8-) hahaaha
Oh they were in HangGlider BTW 8-)
Mark
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From: orcabonita@hotmail.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 2:24 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: power off climb
Great pictures and illistrations. Makes me want to go out and find
some
lenticular clouds to play in [Wink] Unfortunately, we dont get those
to often
here in Florida :(
Mike
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| Subject: | STS RADIO & FLIGHTTECH INTERCON |
I have a STS hand held and recently purchased a ITC-2001-ENR1 Flight
Tech noise reduction intercom. I couldn't find any were to purchase a
patch cord to hook it up so I took it to a aircraft radio shop to have
him build one.. He said they were not compabile all he got was a squeal.
Has any one got this combination or is the tech right? I was under the
impression that he did not want to screw with it.
Rick Pearce MK3 912ULS
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| Subject: | Re: Forced landing |
Ray,
Your statement about best glide speed being about 1.2 times stall speed got me
to thinking a bit (dangerous at times). This number may be fairly close for gliders
with high aspect ratio wings but is not quite accurate for airplanes that
generally have far lower aspect wings.
Attached is a spreadsheet showing TYPICAL V speeds for light aircraft in the approximately
100 mph cruise speed range. For slower aircraft with similar aspect
ratios (like most Kolbs) the ratio between the various speeds and the RANGE
of speed between stall and max. continous cruise holds fairly constant. The spreadsheet
also contains a column that shows an airplane with a max. continuous
cruise speed of 85 and stall of 35. You can plug in the numbers for your airplane
in the two yellow fields and the blue fields will automatically be calculated.
These numbers are for calm wind conditions (glide and climb angles). Adding 1/2
the headwind component or subtracting 1/2 the tailwind component is a good approximation
of how to modify the ANGLE speeds, as Ray said.
None of these numbers are carved in stone but are very good first order approximations
for most airplanes with typical aspect ratio wings.
If you don't have spreadsheet software and want to know what the calculations for
your airplane would be, send me an email with your max. continous cruise speed
and your stall speed (without flaps) and I'll be glad to send you the numbers.
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| Subject: | Re: re brs location |
I misread that this morning, and my answer doesn't exactly apply. Boyd's
answer sounds good to me. The one I was worried about was the lower strut
attachment point, just above the axle, and that's where I put my spacer to
hold the strut against one side. That one Does have a lot of stress on
it. Lar.
On 4/5/07, boyd <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> I had exactly the same thought and concern, so made spacers out of scrap
> tubing to hold the strut against one side of that 1" spread. Prob'ly
> makes
> no difference, but I feel better. Lar.
>
>
> On 4/4/07, JetPilot <orcabonita@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> My BRS is in the center between the wings, as you can see in the attached
> picture. It does make me wonder if it would deploy after a wing fialure.
> The structure looks very strong overall, but the pin that attaches the
> wing
> to the center section has always made me wonder. I have calculated the
> forces and they are well below the shear level of the pin, but shear
> forces
> listed for AN hardware do not take into account this large 1 inch spread
> with the wing load in the center of the pin which creates more of a
> bending
> force, not a shear force on the pin... I have been tempted to drill the
> holes out, and go with one size larger pin, but removing material from the
> tongues could create its own weakness in negative G loads....
>
> Mike
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> but the pin that attaches the wing to the center section has always made
> me
> wonder.
>
> The pin that attaches the wing to the center section has never been my
> concern.... I would think that the pressure on that pin is straight in
> toward the center section.... think about it, in flight the wing is held
> down by the lift strut,,, attached in the center.... if the lift is
> equal
> on the outboard half compared to the inboard half... all the weight is
> being held by the lift strut... and because it is attached at an angle,
> the force on the wing attach point is inward. Not up.... the bolts that
> holds the most stress would be the lift strut attach points.
>
> Boyd
>
>
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Man that looks like fun ! I kept expecting to see dust kicked up by the wheels
flying low across the desert. What kind of engine do you have on your firestar
and what speed / RPM do you cruise at ?
I remember you having an engine out last year, and having a forced landing due
to a spark plug cap comming lose. Can you tell me what caused it to come loose
and what the fix is ?
Mike
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Larry, the 1st 2 were neat, but that 3rd one...........WOW ! ! ! Gotta get
Vamoose going. (Have I said that before ??)
Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/6/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> The weather turned out sunny and the winds finally calmed down enough
> to have fun while flying. It was 34 degrees when I left. I flew for 2 hours
> and 34 minutes. The biggest reason for the flight was to check endurance of
> both the fuel supply and myself. I flew 154 miles, using about 11 gallons of
> gas. I refueled in-flight three times, thinking that I would try my
> in-flight restart some other time :-) Rather than run it out of gas and then
> refuel. When I landed I still had about 7 gallons of fuel left.
> I flew to the Alvord Desert and the Steen's Mt. mostly just to watch
> for wildlife.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5373976601721444854
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7146891146128589017
> I saw Golden Eagles, coyotes,Antelope, Big Horn Sheep,and Wild Horses. I
> tried to take movies of the Sheep, but my little camera and the currents
> along the cliff's make for a bit more excitement than I was prepared for. I
> first saw the sheep clustered together right on top of a knob on the hill.
> The problem with the camera is that I either need to be right on top of
> them, or have the telephoto zoomed in and up to my eye. I consider myself to
> be fairly "ballsey", but I try my best to draw the line at stupid. :-/ So a
> grainy picture is all you get.
>
> On the way home I thought that I would get a bit of practice so that I
> wouldn't get bored when Arty and I follow the roads on the trip to Texas.
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5346820567464344871
>
> Larry, Oregon
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Kolb Wing Attach Points |
The two pins on each end of the wing strut have the most force on them then the
pins in the center section, but not a huge amont... The two strut pins have something
like 25 % more force on them than the pin that attaches to the wing center
section. But the huge bending moment caused by that large 1 inch gap
makes that one the one that will fail first... What it takes to bend that pin
at a one inch spread, I cannot find a spec on that anywhere. I would be ok
with this on a FireStar, or FireFly, but not on a heavy MK III. Have you ever
seen how thick the wing attach bolts are on a J-3 Cub, they are about twice
the streingth of what the MK III is for the same weight class plane.
To help this, I have gone to NAS hardware which is about 20 % stronger than AN
hardware, and I am using a bolt and nut, so that if it does bend, one end will
not pull out. I will be drilling that out and going to a bigger diameter bolt
there just to be sure. I would also like to drill out and go one size bigger
bolts on the strut ends, but it it might remove to much material from the
ends and cause weakness in the 4130 metal of the wing strut end, so I will not.
These have much less bending moment, so are not as likely to fail as the
center section as can be seen in the pictures below. Larry had a good idea of
putting a spacer in the lower attach point pin to keep the stress to one side
of it. That will put almost all the stress on one side of the fitting, but
will keep that bolt stressed in sheer instead of bending force. I will use a
bunch of washers to do this. I will also be careful to make sure I do not put
to many in so that it does not cause this fitting to be tight. Making this
tight instead of free floating could cause fatigue on the strut end and cause
a fialure over time. Remember the tail that fatigued fialed when its foward
fitting was not allowed to float free ?
Attached are pictures so you all can see what I am talking about, and if any one
has any more ideas or sees something I dont by all means respond to this thread.
Michael Bigelow
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 5:29 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: just flying
>
> "Man that looks like fun ! I kept expecting to see dust kicked up by the
> wheels flying low across the desert. What kind of engine do you have on
> your firestar and what speed / RPM do you cruise at ?"
__________________________________________________________________
I have a 503 on it and my rpm's across the desert was at 5400. As an aside,
the video was 1 min and 44 seconds, and I was now where near the middle of
the lake bed, and I was also traversing it cross ways rather than length
wise.
____________________________________________________________________
> "I remember you having an engine out last year, and having a forced
> landing due to a spark plug cap comming lose. Can you tell me what
> caused it to come loose and what the fix is ?"
___________________________________________________________________
Sure the fix is - do your annuals! I was guilt tripped into flying it
without doing my annual. While I paid a pretty high price, it was probably
the best thing that could happen to me. Primarily because of the fabric.
After I began the replacement of the fabric, I find that there was an stc
about using auto paint on Stitts. John Hauck and the rest that were tearing
off the old fabric can testify that the fabric did not act right when it was
coming off. So in exchange for money ( lots) it (incident) probably saved
my life. Now having said that, you can secure your spark plug caps,
probably should if you have only one per cyclinder. Other than that they
should be replaced either at regular intervals, and inspected each time you
do your preflight, if they are at all loose, replaced.
My prefered cruise is generally at 6000 rpm's For what ever reason, I don't
seem to save any fuel by cutting back, and as you can see from the IFR
video, I do like the speed, especially close to the ground. :-)
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Bourne
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: just flying
Larry, the 1st 2 were neat, but that 3rd one...........WOW ! ! !
Gotta get Vamoose going. (Have I said that before ??)
Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/6/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
Glad you enjoyed it. I love flying that way. I know its nuts, but
its almost as good as sex. Of course sex now isn't what it used to be
either. :-)
Larry
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| Subject: | Cleaning Air Filters |
REF:
environment,
| it's might be OK (but not optimum). |
| -Dana
Dana:
Lots of folks labor under the misunderstanding that once they break
ground and get up into clean air, they don't really need an
aircleaner. Might be surprised how much crude is in the air, at all
altitudes, that one can not see. Check it out. Fly all day on a
cross country. That evening check the leading edge of wings, prop,
struts, etc., and see how much crude is packed on the airplane.
Another point. Most marine applications do not use aircleaners, only
flame arrestors. Bet the air on the lake, river, and coast is full of
contamination too.
I'm going to keep using K&N filter oil on my filters also.
john h
mkIII
------------------------------------
Guess I'll take another look at oiling filters. Maybe the dual carb
engines (which I now have) have enuf more filter area to avoid the
problem I saw on the single carb 377. (Can't believe, with the depth of
experience on this list, that nobody else ever experienced the same
effect.)
Thanks everybody for the feedback.
Frank Clyma
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning Air Filters |
A small point of correction? you say "most marine engines don't use
air cleaners -- true for the smallies, but the big ($40-50 thou each)
ones sure do! Lots of crud at real low altitudes, over land or water.
On Apr 5, 2007, at 8:37 PM, frank & margie wrote:
> REF:
>
> environment,
>
>
> Dana:
>
> Lots of folks labor under the misunderstanding that once they break
> ground and get up into clean air, they don't really need an
> aircleaner. Might be surprised how much crude is in the air, at all
> altitudes, that one can not see. Check it out. Fly all day on a
> cross country. That evening check the leading edge of wings, prop,
> struts, etc., and see how much crude is packed on the airplane.
>
> Another point. Most marine applications do not use aircleaners, only
> flame arrestors. Bet the air on the lake, river, and coast is full of
> contamination too.
>
> I'm going to keep using K&N filter oil on my filters also.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> ------------------------------------
>
> Guess I'll take another look at oiling filters. Maybe the dual
> carb engines (which I now have) have enuf more filter area to avoid
> the problem I saw on the single carb 377. (Can't believe, with the
> depth of experience on this list, that nobody else ever experienced
> the same effect.)
>
> Thanks everybody for the feedback.
>
> Frank Clyma
> do not archive
>
>
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Ssshhhhhh............don't give up all yer secrets. Do
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On 4/6/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2007 5:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: just flying
>
>
> Larry, the 1st 2 were neat, but that 3rd one...........WOW ! ! ! Gotta
> get Vamoose going. (Have I said that before ??)
> Lar. Do not Archive.
>
> On 4/6/07, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Glad you enjoyed it. I love flying that way. I know its nuts, but its
> > almost as good as sex. Of course sex now isn't what it used to be either.
> > :-)
> > Larry
> >
> *
>
> *
>
>
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