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1. 05:40 AM - Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (Ralph)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Fiberglass Fuel Tank (icrashrc)
3. 06:20 AM - Ralph for President (Dwight Kottke)
4. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2007 (pat ladd)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: just flying (boyd)
6. 07:02 AM - Re: re brs location (boyd)
7. 07:23 AM - Attachment Bolts/ Not BRS (John Hauck)
8. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass Fuel Tank (N27SB@aol.com)
9. 08:53 AM - Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
10. 09:25 AM - Re: Powerfin Prop & safety wire (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
11. 09:28 AM - Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Ed Chmielewski)
12. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Ralph)
13. 09:48 AM - Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (Ed Chmielewski)
14. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Dana Hague)
15. 10:08 AM - M3X incidence & dihedral (icrashrc)
16. 10:14 AM - unattached aileron (Ralph)
17. 10:14 AM - Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (knowvne@aol.com)
18. 10:39 AM - Re: Ralph for President (Bob Noyer)
19. 10:50 AM - Re: Ralph for President (Bob Noyer)
20. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Larry Cottrell)
21. 11:56 AM - Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (jb92563)
22. 01:02 PM - Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (JetPilot)
23. 01:02 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (John Hauck)
24. 01:35 PM - Re: Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. (knowvne@aol.com)
25. 01:36 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Ralph)
26. 02:58 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Eugene Zimmerman)
27. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points (Larry Cottrell)
28. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley 2007 (Larry Bourne)
29. 03:16 PM - Re: just flying (Larry Bourne)
30. 03:42 PM - Fw: (Rick Pearce)
31. 04:01 PM - Re: Fw: (knowvne@aol.com)
32. 05:29 PM - Re: (Radial Bike) (Ed Chmielewski)
33. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Twinstar (Ed Chmielewski)
34. 05:50 PM - Re: Fw: (Russ Kinne)
35. 05:50 PM - Re: Fw: (russ kinne)
36. 06:13 PM - Mark II Weight and balance ()
37. 06:46 PM - Re: Mark II Weight and balance (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
38. 07:10 PM - Re: Mark II Weight and balance (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
39. 07:39 PM - Re: just flying (R. Hankins)
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
I did my annual on Saturday, as I do this time every year, and
Seafoamed the heck out of my pistons and cylinders. It's very clean
in there after 450 hours on this 447.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
-- Bob Noyer <a58r@verizon.net> wrote:
SeaFoam? SeaFoam! Did I hear correct(ly) Hope not! Lettuce awl bee
knice, now.
regards,
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Fuel Tank |
So what is a suitable resin for gasoline and gasohol?
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| Subject: | Ralph for President |
If Jesse Venture can become Governor of Minnesota by being a Pro-wrestler,
then our own Ralph surly has a shot at the Presidency for using Sea Foam!
I have been using Klotz synthetic oil and an annual bath of Seafoam for 7
years and 200 hours in my 377.
The Flying Farmer
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I did my annual on Saturday, as I do this time every year, and
Seafoamed the heck out of my pistons and cylinders. It's very clean
in there after 450 hours on this 447.
Ralph Burlingame
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2007 |
Pint of Bitter too please.
Hi Dave,
Wow! I think beer for breakfast is a bit much although at one time Porter
and Stout were drunk at beakfast time I believe. Stout would have been
something like Guinness. Strong stomachs they must have had.
Wouldn`t say `No` to a little heart starter of champagne and orange juice
though. With smoked salmon and scrambled eggs of course.
Cheers
Pat
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Larry, the 1st 2 were neat, but that 3rd one...........WOW ! ! ! Gotta get
Vamoose going. (Have I said that before ??) Lar.
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"NO" I don't remember that one....... what I remember
"next year fer sure"
Boyd
Sorry couldn't resist.
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| Subject: | Re: re brs location |
I misread that this morning, and my answer doesn't exactly apply. Boyd's
answer sounds good to me. The one I was worried about was the lower strut
attachment point, just above the axle, and that's where I put my spacer to
hold the strut against one side. That one Does have a lot of stress on it.
Lar.
On 4/5/07, boyd <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
I had exactly the same thought and concern, so made spacers out of scrap
tubing to hold the strut against one side of that 1" spread. Prob'ly makes
no difference, but I feel better. Lar.
>>>>>>>>>>..
Don't shoot the messenger: I had an engineer tell me that the sheer on a
bolt that has a tight fit to the side, is a lot less than the sheer on the
same bolt that is not tight. Example. If you have a good pair of tin
snips and have the adjustment bolt tight the sheet metal will sheer easily.
Now try it with the cutting elements adjusted so there is a bit of slop in
the snips.... it will take a lot of extra force and the sheet metal wil
fold over not sheer clean. I was told that if you needed a bolt in sheer
and the joint had to be tight,, make sure that the edges of the hole had
been beveled a bit.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Attachment Bolts/ Not BRS |
| Lar.
Larry:
Hardware on Kolb aircraft is well "overbuilt", as are most other
components.
Biggest problem is not failure of the hardware but wear and hole
enlargement from vibration. If you put hours on one, it is going to
elongate the holes and wear the cadmium plating off the bolts or
clevis pins, if you are still using clevis pins.
Even with enlarging holes, there is still no danger of failure, if you
can live with the clunk, clunk feel and sound when the aircraft goes
from positive to negative and back to positive G's.
I learned this very early on with the Ultrastar. Our fix on the
Firestar and mkIII was to drill out the lift strut fittings and weld
bushing stock cut to fit the slots between the attachment tangs. This
puts an end to wear from vibration and movement on the bolts.
Now, as far as bolts breaking and shearing, don't think anyone can
load one up with a Kolb to do that. The bolt is going to bend before
it breaks or shears. There is no way of loading it up that much.
The only bolts I have ever sheared on my airplanes were two 3/16"
bolts I had securing the 3/4" axles to the axle sockets. This
happened during testing after I installed upgraded MATCO brakes.
First time I got down on the brakes to the point of locking them up, I
sheared two of the little 3/16" bolts on one axle. Fix was to go to
the next size, 1/4". No more problem. The test indicated I was
getting a lot more braking with the new brakes than with the old ones.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Fuel Tank |
In a message dated 4/9/2007 9:12:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
icrashrc@aol.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
So what is a suitable resin for gasoline and gasohol?
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Hi Scott,
I have been getting up to speed on that recently. Years ago I used Safe T
Poxie on a Long EZ. I checked the 22 year old tanks last year and they were
still perfect. However only Avgas has been used. Gasoline and Gasohol is a
different story.
In the past some epoxies were sensitive to the toluene and other additives
in Hi test but regular leaded was ok. The new problem appears to be Ethanol.
The boat industry is getting hit hard with this because many older boats had
built in fiberglass tanks that worked for years but are now failing due to 10%
ethanol mix.
Most companies seem to be using vinyl ester and a few are coating the tanks
with a special Phenol based epoxy.
SO, As far as My Opinion, I plan to use vinyl ester for the tank
construction and then coat the inside with Phenol epoxy. I also plan to avoid
the
use of 10% ethanol which is easy here in Florida . I will also keep some test
samples in fuel and monitor them from time to time. You can also get some
tell tale signs on your spark plugs if the Ethanol is oxidizing the resin
matrix.
The nice thing about the Firefly is that you can remove the tank in minutes
and replace if needed. Since this is a molded part I can build new ones as
needed.
Continued research will be done while I am at SnF this year. It will be
interesting to see how some of the composite AC companies are handling this Issue.
steve
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
"Dennis Souder" said: << Personally I have spent more time thinking if I
actually installed the pin or not. When you land and are putting the
airplane away and find an unused safety pin ... Dennis >>
Friends - I am not proud to admit that this has happened to me, sometime
in my first year of flying my newly-completed Kolb.
I was folding my wings up, following an hour's flight one morning.
Noticed the wing spar clevis pin was in place, but I had apparently
forgotten to install the safety pin. Talk about a shock! Stood there
staring at the pin, dumbstruck, for several minutes. Luckily, the pin
stayed right in place the whole flight.
I have since renewed my focus during my preflight inspections. Mental
attitude and discipline are important contributors here.
Dennis Kirby
Happy to be here to tell you this story, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Powerfin Prop & safety wire |
Rick Pearce asked: << Do you need to safety wire the outer two bolts on
the Power Fin prop? >>
Rick, and Kolbers spinning a Powerfin -
No.
Two years ago, Powerfin issued a service update for all their propeller
models, announcing that none of the prop hub screws (6 center screws,
plus two for each blade) require any safety wire; they will remain
safely secure if properly torqued to the specified value.
I spoke with Stuart Gort about this specifically. He said many folks
still like to use safety wire because it makes them feel better, but it
is not necessary.
I do not use any safety wire on my Powerfin prop 3-blade.
Dennis Kirby
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
Michael/All,
I'm very concerned with any 'shade-tree/TLAR (that looks about
right)' engineering on any of Homer's designs unless you have some
aeronautical engineering expertise or someone onboard who does. There's no
history of the parts failing, so why the concern?
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Wing Attach Points
>
> The two pins on each end of the wing strut have the most force on them
> then the pins in the center section, but not a huge amont... The two strut
> pins have something like 25 % more force on them than the pin that
> attaches to the wing center section. But the huge bending moment caused
> by that large 1 inch gap makes that one the one that will fail first...
> What it takes to bend that pin at a one inch spread, I cannot find a spec
> on that anywhere. I would be ok with this on a FireStar, or FireFly, but
> not on a heavy MK III. Have you ever seen how thick the wing attach bolts
> are on a J-3 Cub, they are about twice the streingth of what the MK III is
> for the same weight class plane.
>
> To help this, I have gone to NAS hardware which is about 20 % stronger
> than AN hardware, and I am using a bolt and nut, so that if it does bend,
> one end will not pull out. I will be drilling that out and going to a
> bigger diameter bolt there just to be sure. I would also like to drill
> out and go one size bigger bolts on the strut ends, but it it might remove
> to much material from the ends and cause weakness in the 4130 metal of the
> wing strut end, so I will not. These have much less bending moment, so
> are not as likely to fail as the center section as can be seen in the
> pictures below. Larry had a good idea of putting a spacer in the lower
> attach point pin to keep the stress to one side of it. That will put
> almost all the stress on one side of the fitting, but will keep that bolt
> stressed in sheer instead of bending force. I will use a bunch of washers
> to do this. I will also be careful to make sure I do not put to many in
> so that it does not cause this fitting!
> to be tight. Making this tight instead of free floating could cause
> fatigue on the strut end and cause a fialure over time. Remember the
> tail that fatigued fialed when its foward fitting was not allowed to float
> free ?
>
> Attached are pictures so you all can see what I am talking about, and if
> any one has any more ideas or sees something I dont by all means respond
> to this thread.
>
> Michael Bigelow
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
>
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>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=105230#105230
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
I have heard of two kolbs being flown without the nut on the TE wing
bolt (on the universal joint). One of these guys was a buddy of mine
and I personally witnessed seeing no nut on the wing joint. He
turned "white as a sheet" when I pointed that out to him. He had just
returned from a 150-mile trip. He had the wings off prior to the trip
and forgot to put on the nut.
Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
Ralph
-- "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
"Dennis Souder" said: << Personally I have spent more time thinking
if I
actually installed the pin or not. When you land and are putting the
airplane away and find an unused safety pin ... Dennis >>
Friends - I am not proud to admit that this has happened to me,
sometime
in my first year of flying my newly-completed Kolb.
I was folding my wings up, following an hour's flight one morning.
Noticed the wing spar clevis pin was in place, but I had apparently
forgotten to install the safety pin. Talk about a shock! Stood there
staring at the pin, dumbstruck, for several minutes. Luckily, the pin
stayed right in place the whole flight.
I have since renewed my focus during my preflight inspections. Mental
attitude and discipline are important contributors here.
Dennis Kirby
Happy to be here to tell you this story, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
Mark,
PLEASE take it off-list, bc, whatever.
Ed in JXN
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From: <knowvne@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit.
(Snip)
> Happy Easter...
>
> Mark Vaughn
>
> PS
> If you would like to further discuss this lets take it off the list...
> ok
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
At 12:32 PM 4/9/2007, Ralph wrote:
>Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
>horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
I'll bet there was a bit of adverse yaw when rolling towards the
disconnected side, though!
-Dana
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The citizens of the United States are getting the government they deserve.
The problem is that I'm also getting the government they deserve.
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| Subject: | M3X incidence & dihedral |
While rigging the wings...
The M3X build manual calls for 1.4deg angle of incidence. One would assume this
is positive incidence but it doesn't actually say. Is it positive?
On the same page the manual calls for 1.5deg of dihedral. Again, one would assume
positive but it doesn't say. Is it positive?
Also is this 1.5deg per wing panel or combined?
Thanks,
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| Subject: | unattached aileron |
He said there was a little difference in how it handled, but not all
that much. I think the windstream blows the unattached aileron to
level.
The same happens to the elevator. Pull the stick back while on the
ground and it's heavy. In the air it's not as heavy.
Ralph
-- Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
At 12:32 PM 4/9/2007, Ralph wrote:
>Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
>horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
I'll bet there was a bit of adverse yaw when rolling towards the
disconnected side, though!
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
Hi ED
I agree with you and clearly I suggested what you asked below....
But SNUFFY was on a mission..
Mark Vaughn
-----Original Message-----
From: edchmiel@mindspring.com
Sent: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit.
<edchmiel@mindspring.com>
Mark,
PLEASE take it off-list, bc, whatever.
Ed in JXN
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> Happy Easter...
> > Mark Vaughn
> > PS
> If you would like to further discuss this lets take it off the
list... > ok
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| Subject: | Re: Ralph for President |
Farmer Kottke,
ref: "...annual bath of SeaFoam..."
I've heard of sheep herders taking an occasional bath in sheep dip,
but never in Seafoam!
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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| Subject: | Re: Ralph for President |
Surely Mister Ralph can't be surly if'n he aspires to be the Head
(cleaner).
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
>
> At 12:32 PM 4/9/2007, Ralph wrote:
>
>>Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
>>horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
>
> I'll bet there was a bit of adverse yaw when rolling towards the
> disconnected side, though!
>
> -Dana
I am extremely ashamed to admit that last year in the early stages of trying
to get my Firestar squared away with EGT's and a faulty fuel squeeze bulb,
that upon landing and taxiing up to the hanger, found that one of my aileron
"push tubes" was dragging on the ground. I had pinned it, but had forgotten
the keeper pin. It was there when I took off, or at least started my take
off. I did not hear it go through the prop, no dings. Bigger wonder still
that it didn't dig into the ground and wreck the tube. It did make me a bit
weak in the knees however. I otherwise did not notice any difference in
handling. I would think that the wind going over the aileron would keep it
in a neutral position. The thing that really got my attention was the
thought of the tube ending up in the prop.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
Hmmmm....that explains why I didn't find any Easter Eggs outside my door on Sunday.
Funny Possums.....love it!
And speaking of easter tolerence, some high schools here in Southern California
have outlawed students reference to "Easter" and have renamed it "Peter Coton
Tale Day" WTF is going on!!!!
Since when has the US become a Tolerant Society? Did we not send Millions to die
to preserve it as is in all the wars?
Sorry for the Rant, but things are getting nuts......need the Kolb to stay above
all the BS these days!
Ray
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
The picture of the easter bunny by the Kolb with all the smashed eggs was halarious
[Laughing] I sent it to a bunch of my friends. Here is another one, but
its not half as good as the Kolb bunny.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
| in a neutral position. The thing that really got my attention was
the
| thought of the tube ending up in the prop.
| Larry
Larry:
Had it gone into flutter, it would have gotten your attention.
You do have aileron counter balance weights installed?
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit. |
Cute Lab.....
Looks like some one else in the family has been watching the news...
hahahahaha
Mark Vaughn
-----Original Message-----
From: orcabonita@hotmail.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Happy Easter - Sorry about the rabbit.
The picture of the easter bunny by the Kolb with all the smashed eggs
was
halarious [Laughing] I sent it to a bunch of my friends. Here is
another
one, but its not half as good as the Kolb bunny.
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as
you could
have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
Along the same lines, there was a day when I *thought* I had pinned
in the ailerons into the horns. I make it a habit of pushing on the
ailerons in opposite directions as a check during preflight. The
right one fell right out of the horn. That was close.
Ralph
Original Firestar
20 years flying it
-- "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
<lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
>
> At 12:32 PM 4/9/2007, Ralph wrote:
>
>>Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
>>horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
>
> I'll bet there was a bit of adverse yaw when rolling towards the
> disconnected side, though!
>
> -Dana
I am extremely ashamed to admit that last year in the early stages of
trying
to get my Firestar squared away with EGT's and a faulty fuel squeeze
bulb,
that upon landing and taxiing up to the hanger, found that one of my
aileron
"push tubes" was dragging on the ground. I had pinned it, but had
forgotten
the keeper pin. It was there when I took off, or at least started my
take
off. I did not hear it go through the prop, no dings. Bigger wonder
still
that it didn't dig into the ground and wreck the tube. It did make me
a bit
weak in the knees however. I otherwise did not notice any difference
in
handling. I would think that the wind going over the aileron would
keep it
in a neutral position. The thing that really got my attention was the
thought of the tube ending up in the prop.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
A local pilot flew his New Mark III with a Rotax 912 for several
months. One day he noticed that the right wing move fore and aft at
the wing tip and he discovered that the rear attach fitting was
moving in and out of the diagonal strut. Upon closer inspection he
discovered that while rigging the wings he had forgotten to drill the
hole and install the bolt that holds the fitting into the strut.
He had to cut the fabric to drill the strut and fitting and install
the bolt.
On Apr 9, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Ralph wrote:
>
> I have heard of two kolbs being flown without the nut on the TE wing
> bolt (on the universal joint). One of these guys was a buddy of mine
> and I personally witnessed seeing no nut on the wing joint. He
> turned "white as a sheet" when I pointed that out to him. He had just
> returned from a 150-mile trip. He had the wings off prior to the trip
> and forgot to put on the nut.
>
> Another buddy flew his Firestar without the aileron pinned into the
> horn. He said it flew fine on one aileron.
>
> Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Wing Attach Points |
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
You do have aileron counter balance weights installed?
>
> john h
> mkIII
Yes I do, and I now have my head removed from my posterior as well.
Larry, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Monument Valley 2007 |
With that champagne and OJ, you need a tiny dash of Creme de Cassis to
richen it up. Does wonders. Lar.
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On 4/9/07, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Pint of Bitter too please.
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Wow! I think beer for breakfast is a bit much although at one time Porter
> and Stout were drunk at beakfast time I believe. Stout would have been
> something like Guinness. Strong stomachs they must have had.
>
> Wouldn`t say `No` to a little heart starter of champagne and orange juice
> though. With smoked salmon and scrambled eggs of course.
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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Kin I say it again ?? This year fer sure ! ! ! :-)
Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/9/07, boyd <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
>
>
> Larry, the 1st 2 were neat, but that 3rd one...........WOW ! ! ! Gotta
> get
> Vamoose going. (Have I said that before ??) Lar.
> Do not Archive.
>
>
> "NO" I don't remember that one....... what I remember
> "next year fer sure"
>
> Boyd
>
> Sorry couldn't resist.
>
>
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sweeeeet
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Very sweeeeet.... But i'd watch those paint legs hahahahaha 8-)
Mark Vaughn
-----Original Message-----
From: rap@isp.com
Sent: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw:
sweeeeet
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| Subject: | Re: (Radial Bike) |
Rick/All,
Nice pic, but in the future could you post a link instead of the
pic? Would save those of us on dial-up a lot of waiting.
Ed in JXN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Pearce
To: michaelreed
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fw:
sweeeeet
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Hi Joe,
The MkII is indeed the precursor to the MkIII. As pointed out
earlier, 5" spar and fuse tube as opposed to the 6" on the III. Also, 750
lb. gross vs. 1,000 on the MkIII. No flaps, and designed to take up to a
503. Anything bigger, and you're a test pilot.
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
----- Original Message -----
From: "joe" <okjoek2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Twinstar
>
> I am just wondering if the twinstar is a good solid plane that flys well
> and just an older versiion of the Mark lll. Or is the Mark lll just so
> much better that one shouldn't even consider the older twinstar.
> Joe
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OOOOOOOOh, man, would I ever love to hear that radial warming up!
must really set the Sunday-morning bikers to full alert --
On Apr 8, 2007, at 6:34 PM, Rick Pearce wrote:
>
>
> sweeeeet
>
> <image001.jpg>
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OOOOOOOOh, man, would I ever love to hear that radial warming up!
must really set the Sunday-morning bikers to full alert --
On Apr 8, 2007, at 6:34 PM, Rick Pearce wrote:
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>
> sweeeeet
>
> <image001.jpg>
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| Subject: | Mark II Weight and balance |
Do any of you guys know the correct arm / moment for the pilot in a Mark
II?
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Weight and balance |
I may have that info in the stuff I still have from the guy that built the
mk2 I sold it last year I will look tomorrow. mal
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| Subject: | Re: Mark II Weight and balance |
it depends on how fat the pilot is the belly button is the CG for the pilot
its up to you to measure for the arm and figure the moment
Ellery
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I put in a few flying hours this weekend as well. I packed the .17mag into the
firestar, flew into a remote alfalfa field in Swan Lake Valley and shot a few
ground squirrels from the cockpit. The new Air Trac 6.00-6's did very well on
the soft ground. My heels sank into the soil more than the tires did.
I took a neat picture of Alkalai Lake Saturday evening while waiting for a squall
line to blow past Bonanza International alfalfa patch. Easter morning there
were sand hill cranes and specks all over the field. (did I mention you can
see my new wheels and tires in the foreground?)
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1992 KXP 503
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