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Wed 04/18/07


Total Messages Posted: 25



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     1. 08:06 AM - Lakeland (John Hauck)
     2. 09:58 AM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912  (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
     3. 10:04 AM - re balancing carbs on a 912 (boyd)
     4. 12:16 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Ed Chmielewski)
     5. 12:38 PM - Re: Gasohol (henry.voris)
     6. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
     7. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Dana Hague)
     8. 02:26 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Roger Lee)
     9. 02:40 PM - Re: Gasohol (henry.voris)
    10. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Jack B. Hart)
    11. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Robert Laird)
    12. 03:09 PM - HELP! N numbering my Xtra? (Ben Graven)
    13. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Robert Laird)
    14. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Larry Bourne)
    15. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Herb Gayheart)
    16. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Larry Bourne)
    17. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Robert Laird)
    18. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Terry Swartz)
    19. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Herb Gayheart)
    20. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Dana Hague)
    21. 06:01 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Roger Lee)
    22. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Larry Bourne)
    23. 09:04 PM - Re: Lakeland (Paul Petty)
    24. 09:48 PM - Re: HELP! N numbering my Xtra? (JetPilot)
    25. 10:37 PM - Lexan Wing Gap Seal (John H Murphy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:06:02 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Lakeland
    Morning Gang: I'm out of here. Running late as usual. Got until 1954 EST to get into the UL strip at Lakeland. I can make that with time to spare, if I do not have any weather or mechanical problems. May have to deal with a little rain, but do not anticipate any mechanical problems, but understand the likelyhood is always there. See ya'll at Lakeland. john h mkIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:58:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    << and the procedure is relatively easy to do if someone talks you through it once. Once you do it once or twice you can do a mechanical and pneumatic sync from start to finish in 40 min. Roger Lee, Tucson, Az. >> Roger - Will you be at MV in May? If you are, and if you are able to bring your pneumatic balance kit, I bet you'd have more than a couple of 912 owners interested in watching the process. I for one, would volunteer my 912ul for a carb-balance demo, if you are willing to demonstrate it! Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul in Cedar Crest, NM


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    Time: 10:04:00 AM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: re balancing carbs on a 912
    and make | sure they read the same. | | Dan Walter When I did mine I went to the airport and borrowed a U shaped piece of tubing filled with mercury, hooked each end to a carb and adjusted till the mercury stayed at the same level.( or there about).. Boyd


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    Time: 12:16:46 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    Roger/All, Do you balance using a Uni-Syn like I once did with my old MGB? (ooh, what fun!) Ed in JXN MkII/503 Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Balancing Carbs on a 912 > Roger: (Snip) > > I have never balanced my 912 series engines with vacuum gauges. > Maybe, one of these days I will. First, I have to balance my new Warp > Drive. > > How about a set of those gauges for my birthday? :-) > (Snip) > john h > mkIII


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    Time: 12:38:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gasohol
    From: "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com>
    Howzit... I've been lurking this list for a long time. I have avoided posting for fear for getting hung on someones cross of chocolate bunnies with seafoam and VGs stuck to painfull parts of my body [Shocked] . This Kolb crowd is pretty tough. But the gasohol thing has got me going... If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about gasohol but this isn't one of them. The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process. Not likely to happen in one's gas tank. Water bound up with the ethanol will pass through the engine. The bound up water in the fuel mix left in the crank-case will not be free to oxidize with the bare metal. However... the ethanol may reduce the ability of the oil in the mix to protect the bare metal from moisture free in the atmosphere. The real danger (and it is a DANGER) is phase separation. Using the Hawaiian standard a 10% ethanol/gas mix... When the water reaches .25% (one quarter of one percent or, two and a half parts per thousand) at 70 degrees F., the ethanol/water falls out of solution with the gas. It's heaver than the gas so it forms a layer at the bottom of your tank. It doesn't burn. Lower the temperature and phase separation occurs with even less water... So fuel that appears fine on the ground may suffer phase separation in the colder temperatures of altitude. You are much more likely to suffer an engine failure from ingesting phase separated fuel than incur the expense of replacing rusting bearings... If you live somewhere where all auto fuel has ethanol in it, burn 100LL and learn to live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently). If ya gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems before they get to your carburetor (something I need to do myself). Aloha Nui Henry FireFly five charlee-bravo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107774#107774


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    Time: 01:34:43 PM PST US
    From: Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Gasohol
    In a message dated 4/18/07 2:39:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, henry_voris@yahoo.com writes: If ya gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems before they get to your carburetor question about that: If it achieves this phase seperation and gets to the gascolator, will the water be visible there? Or is it just something I'd empty and clean on a regular basis. Further question: does E-85 ethanol, with it's higher ratio of alcohol, get to this phase seperation state sooner, or later, than 10% gasohol? Thanks. Richy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 01:41:10 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote: > If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying > moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the > bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about > gasohol but this isn't one of them. > The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a > little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes > adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to > live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If ya > gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems > before they get to your carburetor... That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels (e.g. model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in gasohol? Then there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol... Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody got any suggestions? -Dana do not archive -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 02:26:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Guys, Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages. Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and you are all set. I will be happy to talk anyone through this if you would like to call me. 520-574-1080 Roger in Tucson, Az. Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for whom ever wanted one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for another Fly-In the weekend before MV. Then I'm flying on up into Washington for 4 days. This will take me right up to the MV weekend. I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the 912 and you all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it or help in some other way. The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb balance (if they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop blades all have the exact same pitch. These three items are not hard to accomplish. Although you usually need someone for the prop balance. The other two are very easy. I'm on other flight forums and we address these items and all understand their importance. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107790#107790 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/carb_sync_1501_127.jpg


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    Time: 02:40:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gasohol
    From: "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com>
    [quote="Masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 4/18/07 2:39:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, henry_voris@yahoo.com writes: > If ya gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems before they get to your carburetor question about that: If it achieves this phase seperation and gets to the gascolator, will the water be visible there? Or is it just something I'd empty and clean on a regular basis. Further question: does E-85 ethanol, with it's higher ratio of alcohol, get to this phase seperation state sooner, or later, than 10% gasohol? Thanks. Richy See what's free at AOL.com (http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503). > [b] Richy, Yes, the seperation is easy to see... the ethanol/water is clear and there is a clear boundary between it and the colored fuel floating on top. In truth if you have a gascolator you should take a squirt into a glass vessel and look at it real good before each days flying, even if there is no ethanol in your fuel.. If there is ethanol in the fuel you should drain your fuel completely (float chamber too) after a day's flying and start the next day with fresh fuel. Gasohol is OK when it's fresh from the refinery, but the longer it waits around in fuel cans waiting to be burned the more water it will contain. Second question... Yes fuel with 15% ethanol will retain more water than fuel with 10% ethanol. At 70 degrees F. a 15% mix can tolerate .5% (one half of one percent or, 5 parts per thousand) before seperating... A 40% mix will tolerate a full 2% of water. Again... fuel can be good in all respects (looks good, burns good) on the ground, but as soon as you gain altitude and the temprature drops, all bets are off. Hope that helps... Aloha Henry FireFly five charlee bravo Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107791#107791


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    Time: 02:55:42 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    At 04:37 PM 4/18/07 -0400, you wrote: > >Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass >bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining >it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and >all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no >drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my >Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody >got any suggestions? > Dana, If you are just interested in seeing if water is dropping out, there is a small one available for motorcycles that can be purchased from: http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com Part # Z90395 - $9.95 In eight years, I have never found water in the Bing float bowl. I drain my five gallon tank in the spring and the most water I have found is between the volume of a nickel or a dime. Water does accumulate in my gas cans. I use four 2.5 gallon gas cans to transfer fuel. I always leave about a cup of fuel in the cans. This keeps the water in the cans and along with enough fuel so that when I put in oil, the oil is already some what premixed before refilling at the gas station. I remove the water from the transfer cans once a year. For what it is worth. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 03:05:28 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    If anyone in the Houston/SE Texas area wants to balance their 912 carbs, I have a similar set up. -- Robert On 4/18/07, Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages. > Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of vacumm > gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. Some tubing and a > couple of fittings from the hardware store and you are all set. I will be > happy to talk anyone through this if you would like to call > me. 520-574-1080 Roger in Tucson, Az. > > Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for whom > ever wanted one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for another > Fly-In the weekend before MV. Then I'm flying on up into Washington for 4 > days. This will take me right up to the MV weekend. > I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the 912 and > you all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it or help in some > other way. > The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb > balance (if they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop blades > all have the exact same pitch. These three items are not hard to accomplish. > Although you usually need someone for the prop balance. The other two are > very easy. I'm on other flight forums and we address these items and all > understand their importance. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107790#107790 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/carb_sync_1501_127.jpg > >


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    Time: 03:09:06 PM PST US
    From: Ben Graven <gravinus1@yahoo.com>
    Subject: HELP! N numbering my Xtra?
    Hello, I'm brand new to the sport and have a question about getting my plane N numbered. I just bought a xtra that is partially assembled. I doubt that I'll have the plane done before the end of the year. How will I be effected by the Jan 31st deadline and what would be the best course of action for me at this point? Any help is greatly appreciated... Thanks Again, Ben from MN


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    Time: 03:13:33 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    Maybe there's a reason why some people have moved away from glass bowls: NTSB Identification: *FTW95LA072 *Accident occurred Saturday, December 24, 1994 in LA PORTE, TX "LOSS OF ENGINE POWER DUE TO FUEL STARVATION AS RESULT OF THE FAILURE OF THE GLASS BOWL ON THE GASCOLATOR." NTSB Identification: *LAX95LA150 *Accident occurred Friday, March 31, 1995 in EL CAJON, CA "a loss of engine power due to an in-flight separation of the fuel system gascolator glass bowl resulting in a premature fuel exhaustion" Ehhh, naw, maybe the NTSB was just looking for SOMEthing and could only come up with a broken glass bowl (probably caused by the crash). Or not. -- Robert do not archive On 4/18/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: > > > At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote: > > > If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying > > moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the > > bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about > > gasohol but this isn't one of them. > > The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a > > little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes > > adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to > > live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If > ya > > gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems > > before they get to your carburetor... > > That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at > least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much > differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels (e.g. > model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in gasohol? Then > there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol... > > Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass > bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining > it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and > all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no > drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my > Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody > got any suggestions? > > -Dana > > do not archive > > -- > -- > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > >


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    Time: 03:20:39 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    Yah, despite the uncertainties and questions about the need, I believe in this 100%, Dennis. I know for an absolute fact that my Baja Bug ran Much Better after having the dual Weber 44 IDF's on its' 2110cc engine balanced and tuned. Fuel economy is slightly better, too, tho' I gen'rally drive with my foot on the floor. It's sooo much fun ! ! ! :-) Lar. On 4/18/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote: > > Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > > << and the procedure is relatively easy to do if someone talks you > through it once. Once you do it once or twice you can do a mechanical > and pneumatic > sync from start to finish in 40 min. Roger Lee, Tucson, Az. >> > > Roger - > > Will you be at MV in May? > > If you are, and if you are able to bring your pneumatic balance kit, I > bet you'd have more than a couple of 912 owners interested in watching > the process. I for one, would volunteer my 912ul for a carb-balance > demo, if you are willing to demonstrate it! > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-III, 912ul in > Cedar Crest, NM > >


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    Time: 03:27:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    Roger How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together and adj for Zero...? Herb On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> writes: > > Hi Guys, > > Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages. > Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of > vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. > Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and you > are all set. I will be happy to talk anyone through this if you > would like to call me. 520-574-1080 Roger in Tucson, Az. > > Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for > whom ever wanted one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for > another Fly-In the weekend before MV. Then I'm flying on up into > Washington for 4 days. This will take me right up to the MV > weekend. > I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the > 912 and you all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it > or help in some other way. > The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb > balance (if they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop > blades all have the exact same pitch. These three items are not hard > to accomplish. Although you usually need someone for the prop > balance. The other two are very easy. I'm on other flight forums and > we address these items and all understand their importance. > > -------- > Roger Lee > Tucson, Az. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107790#107790 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/carb_sync_1501_127.jpg > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:32:35 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important on Mexican water, and really important in the air. Lar. On 4/18/07, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote: > > Maybe there's a reason why some people have moved away from glass bowls: > > NTSB Identification: *FTW95LA072 > *Accident occurred Saturday, December 24, 1994 in LA PORTE, TX > "LOSS OF ENGINE POWER DUE TO FUEL STARVATION AS RESULT OF THE FAILURE OF > THE GLASS BOWL ON THE GASCOLATOR." > > NTSB Identification: *LAX95LA150 > *Accident occurred Friday, March 31, 1995 in EL CAJON, CA > "a loss of engine power due to an in-flight separation of the fuel system > gascolator glass bowl resulting in a premature fuel exhaustion" > > Ehhh, naw, maybe the NTSB was just looking for SOMEthing and could only > come up with a broken glass bowl (probably caused by the crash). > > Or not. > > -- Robert > > do not archive > > On 4/18/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote: > > > > > If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying > > > moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the > > > bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things > > about > > > gasohol but this isn't one of them. > > > The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a > > > little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes > > > adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to > > > live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If > > ya > > > gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems > > > before they get to your carburetor... > > > > That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at > > least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much > > differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels ( > > e.g. > > model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in > > gasohol? Then > > there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol... > > > > Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass > > bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining > > it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and > > all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no > > drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my > > Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody > > got any suggestions? > > > > -Dana > > > > > > > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 03:39:47 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    Lar -- Is this the one: http://reddenmarine.com/site/new-detail.cfm?id=RAC215R2 -- Robert On 4/18/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: > > This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I > have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable > filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think > polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the > fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it > because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a > problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important > on Mexican water, and really important in the air. > Lar.


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    Time: 04:35:53 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Swartz" <terry@juliaswartz.com>
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    How about a long loop of clear tubing with a little water inside. That is how I tuned mine a few years ago as per Dennis's suggestion. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Gayheart Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 Roger How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together and adj for Zero...? Herb On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> writes: > > Hi Guys, > > Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages. > Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of > vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. > Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and you


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    Time: 05:53:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    From: Herb Gayheart <herbgh@juno.com>
    I think I hit the send button before I got my mind in gear.. One gauge won't work as I described it.. One gauge should work other wise.. one side at a time. Watch the tach. Herb On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:36:03 -0400 "Terry Swartz" <terry@juliaswartz.com> writes: > <terry@juliaswartz.com> > > How about a long loop of clear tubing with a little water inside. > That is > how I tuned mine a few years ago as per Dennis's suggestion. > > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb > Gayheart > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:24 PM > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 > > > Roger > > How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together > and > adj for Zero...? Herb > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee" > <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> > writes: > <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages. > > Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set > of > > vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. > > > Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and > you > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:55:22 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    At 07:07 PM 4/18/2007, Jack B. Hart wrote: >If you are just interested in seeing if water is dropping out, there is a >small one available for motorcycles that can be purchased from: > >http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com > >Part # Z90395 - $9.95 Problem with that one (like the tractor parts) is no drain, unless you remove the bowl each time... messy. The aircraft gascolator on my T-Craft had a glass tube between a metal top and bottom, with the drain in the bottom. -Dana -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 06:01:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
    From: "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
    Hi Guys, You need two gages because you need to compare the two at the same time so you can set the needles to the same on both. Makes your life a 100% easier. A water column type gage will work provided that everything is 100%equal on both sides. The water column works it's just a crude way to do it. If you are off on one side or the other then you will not be able to balance the carbs. Why go through the trouble of trying to make everything that precise when you can pick up a gage for $15 and be done with it? -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107823#107823


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    Time: 06:36:58 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: Gasohol, gascolators
    Perty close, Robert, but that one's for a diesel. Mine has a smaller filter section, and a larger, blue colored bowl. The whole thing's a little bigger than my fist. Lar. On 4/18/07, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote: > > Lar -- > > Is this the one: > > http://reddenmarine.com/site/new-detail.cfm?id=RAC215R2 > > -- Robert > > On 4/18/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote: > > > > This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I > > have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable > > filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think > > polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the > > fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it > > because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a > > problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important > > on Mexican water, and really important in the air. > > Lar. > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:04:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Lakeland
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    Gang, LONG day for Paul P. Woke up at 1:00am CDST and drove 1.5 hrs climbed in the King air E90 and wheels up at 3:50am and got home with red face and wobbly legs at 9:30pm CDST. I got to visit with Mark G., Travis,Donnie,Brian,Steve B. Bruce and the welder of TNK that his name escapes me at the moment. Met another Kolbra builder #16 of Daytona Fl. he just as I had MANY MANY questions about how did you do this, how did you do that.....and furthermore WHY !!! I really hate I missed my buddy John H and felow kolbra pilot John W but we were on a tight schedule. Hope we didint saw John H in half on departure as there were airplanes EVERWHERE! We came within I'd say 100 yards of a rockwell comander that we caught up with less than the 3 mile straight out rule who decided to make his turn a bit early. Was interesting none the less. It was a fun/hot/windy/expensive/tireing day but loved it. Kinda neat siting in a group of guys talking about my Kolb all the way up to 2.5 million dollar aircraft but to be honest... the Kolb factory firestar stole everyones heart Once again! When we got out of the KAe90 and the multi mil owner who i had spent an hour next to explaining the history and design of Kolb aircraft to...he said LOOK there is a kolb in the patteren and he is waxing everything! I wonder how many hours that firefly has on it? Point....Last time for me was S-N-F 2003 there were hundreds of PPC's and Trikes. Today there were only 2 PPC's maybe 10 boths for PPC PPG-1 in the UL area. It was only the second day of the show but a lot less of the PPC's and no PPG's flying. wind was high but the little Kolb firefly was in the air the whole time al day! Go Homer! sorry for typos bla bla but i have been up 22 hrs today and drove 3 hrs flew 5 hrs and walked god knows how many miles! take care -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107852#107852


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    Time: 09:48:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HELP! N numbering my Xtra?
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    There is no deadline for experiemental amateur built. Planes can still be built and N numbered after 2008. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107857#107857


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    Time: 10:37:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Lexan Wing Gap Seal
    From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812@yahoo.com>
    Is there any issues with regards to flight performance when the Wing gap seal is not used? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107860#107860




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