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1. 08:06 AM - Lakeland (John Hauck)
2. 09:58 AM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
3. 10:04 AM - re balancing carbs on a 912 (boyd)
4. 12:16 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Ed Chmielewski)
5. 12:38 PM - Re: Gasohol (henry.voris)
6. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
7. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Dana Hague)
8. 02:26 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Roger Lee)
9. 02:40 PM - Re: Gasohol (henry.voris)
10. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Jack B. Hart)
11. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Robert Laird)
12. 03:09 PM - HELP! N numbering my Xtra? (Ben Graven)
13. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Robert Laird)
14. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Larry Bourne)
15. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Herb Gayheart)
16. 03:32 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Larry Bourne)
17. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Robert Laird)
18. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Terry Swartz)
19. 05:53 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Herb Gayheart)
20. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Dana Hague)
21. 06:01 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Roger Lee)
22. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Larry Bourne)
23. 09:04 PM - Re: Lakeland (Paul Petty)
24. 09:48 PM - Re: HELP! N numbering my Xtra? (JetPilot)
25. 10:37 PM - Lexan Wing Gap Seal (John H Murphy)
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Morning Gang:
I'm out of here.
Running late as usual.
Got until 1954 EST to get into the UL strip at Lakeland. I can make
that with time to spare, if I do not have any weather or mechanical
problems. May have to deal with a little rain, but do not anticipate
any mechanical problems, but understand the likelyhood is always
there.
See ya'll at Lakeland.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
<< and the procedure is relatively easy to do if someone talks you
through it once. Once you do it once or twice you can do a mechanical
and pneumatic
sync from start to finish in 40 min. Roger Lee, Tucson, Az. >>
Roger -
Will you be at MV in May?
If you are, and if you are able to bring your pneumatic balance kit, I
bet you'd have more than a couple of 912 owners interested in watching
the process. I for one, would volunteer my 912ul for a carb-balance
demo, if you are willing to demonstrate it!
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul in
Cedar Crest, NM
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Subject: | re balancing carbs on a 912 |
and make
| sure they read the same.
|
| Dan Walter
When I did mine I went to the airport and borrowed a U shaped piece of
tubing filled with mercury, hooked each end to a carb and adjusted till the
mercury stayed at the same level.( or there about)..
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Roger/All,
Do you balance using a Uni-Syn like I once did with my old MGB?
(ooh, what fun!)
Ed in JXN
MkII/503
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Balancing Carbs on a 912
> Roger:
(Snip)
>
> I have never balanced my 912 series engines with vacuum gauges.
> Maybe, one of these days I will. First, I have to balance my new Warp
> Drive.
>
> How about a set of those gauges for my birthday? :-)
>
(Snip)
> john h
> mkIII
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Howzit...
I've been lurking this list for a long time. I have avoided posting
for fear for getting hung on someones cross of chocolate bunnies with seafoam
and VGs stuck to painfull parts of my body [Shocked] . This Kolb crowd is
pretty tough. But the gasohol thing has got me going...
If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying moisture
to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the bearings... it ain't
gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about gasohol but this isn't
one of them.
The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a little cage around
each water molecule. To get them to separate takes adding another alcohol
and a two step distillation process. Not likely to happen in one's gas tank. Water
bound up with the ethanol will pass through the engine.
The bound up water in the fuel mix left in the crank-case will not be free to
oxidize with the bare metal. However... the ethanol may reduce the ability of
the oil in the mix to protect the bare metal from moisture free in the atmosphere.
The real danger (and it is a DANGER) is phase separation. Using the Hawaiian standard
a 10% ethanol/gas mix... When the water reaches .25% (one quarter of one
percent or, two and a half parts per thousand) at 70 degrees F., the ethanol/water
falls out of solution with the gas. It's heaver than the gas so it forms
a layer at the bottom of your tank. It doesn't burn. Lower the temperature
and phase separation occurs with even less water... So fuel that appears fine
on the ground may suffer phase separation in the colder temperatures of altitude.
You are much more likely to suffer an engine failure from ingesting phase separated
fuel than incur the expense of replacing rusting bearings...
If you live somewhere where all auto fuel has ethanol in it, burn 100LL and learn
to live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently). If ya
gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems before they
get to your carburetor (something I need to do myself).
Aloha Nui
Henry
FireFly five charlee-bravo
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In a message dated 4/18/07 2:39:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
henry_voris@yahoo.com writes:
If ya gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems
before they get to your carburetor
question about that: If it achieves this phase seperation and gets to
the gascolator, will the water be visible there? Or is it just something I'd
empty and clean on a regular basis.
Further question: does E-85 ethanol, with it's higher ratio of alcohol,
get to this phase seperation state sooner, or later, than 10% gasohol?
Thanks.
Richy
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote:
> If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying
> moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the
> bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about
> gasohol but this isn't one of them.
> The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a
> little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes
> adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to
> live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If ya
> gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems
> before they get to your carburetor...
That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at
least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much
differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels (e.g.
model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in gasohol? Then
there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol...
Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass
bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining
it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and
all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no
drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my
Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody
got any suggestions?
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Hi Guys,
Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages.
Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of vacumm gages
from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. Some tubing and a couple
of fittings from the hardware store and you are all set. I will be happy to
talk anyone through this if you would like to call me. 520-574-1080 Roger in
Tucson, Az.
Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for whom ever wanted
one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for another Fly-In the weekend
before MV. Then I'm flying on up into Washington for 4 days. This will take
me right up to the MV weekend.
I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the 912 and you
all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it or help in some other way.
The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb balance (if
they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop blades all have the
exact same pitch. These three items are not hard to accomplish. Although you usually
need someone for the prop balance. The other two are very easy. I'm on
other flight forums and we address these items and all understand their importance.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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[quote="Masqqqqqqq(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 4/18/07 2:39:31 PM Eastern Standard
Time, henry_voris@yahoo.com writes:
> If ya gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems before
they get to your carburetor
question about that: If it achieves this phase seperation and gets to the
gascolator, will the water be visible there? Or is it just something I'd empty
and clean on a regular basis.
Further question: does E-85 ethanol, with it's higher ratio of alcohol, get
to this phase seperation state sooner, or later, than 10% gasohol?
Thanks.
Richy
See what's free at AOL.com (http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503).
> [b]
Richy,
Yes, the seperation is easy to see... the ethanol/water is clear and there is a
clear boundary between it and the colored fuel floating on top.
In truth if you have a gascolator you should take a squirt into a glass vessel
and look at it real good before each days flying, even if there is no ethanol
in your fuel..
If there is ethanol in the fuel you should drain your fuel completely (float chamber
too) after a day's flying and start the next day with fresh fuel. Gasohol
is OK when it's fresh from the refinery, but the longer it waits around in fuel
cans waiting to be burned the more water it will contain.
Second question... Yes fuel with 15% ethanol will retain more water than fuel with
10% ethanol. At 70 degrees F. a 15% mix can tolerate .5% (one half of one
percent or, 5 parts per thousand) before seperating... A 40% mix will tolerate
a full 2% of water.
Again... fuel can be good in all respects (looks good, burns good) on the ground,
but as soon as you gain altitude and the temprature drops, all bets are off.
Hope that helps...
Aloha
Henry
FireFly five charlee bravo
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
At 04:37 PM 4/18/07 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass
>bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining
>it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and
>all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no
>drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my
>Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody
>got any suggestions?
>
Dana,
If you are just interested in seeing if water is dropping out, there is a
small one available for motorcycles that can be purchased from:
http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com
Part # Z90395 - $9.95
In eight years, I have never found water in the Bing float bowl. I drain my
five gallon tank in the spring and the most water I have found is between
the volume of a nickel or a dime. Water does accumulate in my gas cans. I
use four 2.5 gallon gas cans to transfer fuel. I always leave about a cup
of fuel in the cans. This keeps the water in the cans and along with enough
fuel so that when I put in oil, the oil is already some what premixed before
refilling at the gas station. I remove the water from the transfer cans
once a year.
For what it is worth.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
If anyone in the Houston/SE Texas area wants to balance their 912 carbs, I
have a similar set up.
-- Robert
On 4/18/07, Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages.
> Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of vacumm
> gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each. Some tubing and a
> couple of fittings from the hardware store and you are all set. I will be
> happy to talk anyone through this if you would like to call
> me. 520-574-1080 Roger in Tucson, Az.
>
> Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for whom
> ever wanted one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for another
> Fly-In the weekend before MV. Then I'm flying on up into Washington for 4
> days. This will take me right up to the MV weekend.
> I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the 912 and
> you all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it or help in some
> other way.
> The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb
> balance (if they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop blades
> all have the exact same pitch. These three items are not hard to accomplish.
> Although you usually need someone for the prop balance. The other two are
> very easy. I'm on other flight forums and we address these items and all
> understand their importance.
>
> --------
> Roger Lee
> Tucson, Az.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107790#107790
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/carb_sync_1501_127.jpg
>
>
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Subject: | HELP! N numbering my Xtra? |
Hello, I'm brand new to the sport and have a question
about getting my plane N numbered. I just bought a
xtra that is partially assembled. I doubt that I'll
have the plane done before the end of the year. How
will I be effected by the Jan 31st deadline and what
would be the best course of action for me at this
point?
Any help is greatly appreciated...
Thanks Again, Ben from MN
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
Maybe there's a reason why some people have moved away from glass bowls:
NTSB Identification: *FTW95LA072
*Accident occurred Saturday, December 24, 1994 in LA PORTE, TX
"LOSS OF ENGINE POWER DUE TO FUEL STARVATION AS RESULT OF THE FAILURE OF THE
GLASS BOWL ON THE GASCOLATOR."
NTSB Identification: *LAX95LA150
*Accident occurred Friday, March 31, 1995 in EL CAJON, CA
"a loss of engine power due to an in-flight separation of the fuel system
gascolator glass bowl resulting in a premature fuel exhaustion"
Ehhh, naw, maybe the NTSB was just looking for SOMEthing and could only come
up with a broken glass bowl (probably caused by the crash).
Or not.
-- Robert
do not archive
On 4/18/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote:
>
> > If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying
> > moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the
> > bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things about
> > gasohol but this isn't one of them.
> > The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a
> > little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes
> > adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to
> > live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If
> ya
> > gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems
> > before they get to your carburetor...
>
> That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at
> least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much
> differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels (e.g.
> model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in gasohol? Then
> there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol...
>
> Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass
> bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining
> it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and
> all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no
> drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my
> Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody
> got any suggestions?
>
> -Dana
>
> do not archive
>
> --
> --
> My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Yah, despite the uncertainties and questions about the need, I believe in
this 100%, Dennis. I know for an absolute fact that my Baja Bug ran Much
Better after having the dual Weber 44 IDF's on its' 2110cc engine balanced
and tuned. Fuel economy is slightly better, too, tho' I gen'rally drive
with my foot on the floor. It's sooo much fun ! ! ! :-)
Lar.
On 4/18/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
>
> Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
>
> << and the procedure is relatively easy to do if someone talks you
> through it once. Once you do it once or twice you can do a mechanical
> and pneumatic
> sync from start to finish in 40 min. Roger Lee, Tucson, Az. >>
>
> Roger -
>
> Will you be at MV in May?
>
> If you are, and if you are able to bring your pneumatic balance kit, I
> bet you'd have more than a couple of 912 owners interested in watching
> the process. I for one, would volunteer my 912ul for a carb-balance
> demo, if you are willing to demonstrate it!
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-III, 912ul in
> Cedar Crest, NM
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Roger
How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together and
adj for Zero...? Herb
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
writes:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages.
> Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of
> vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each.
> Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and you
> are all set. I will be happy to talk anyone through this if you
> would like to call me. 520-574-1080 Roger in Tucson, Az.
>
> Normally I would be happy to come to MV and do carb balancing for
> whom ever wanted one, but I have been invited to McMinnville, OR for
> another Fly-In the weekend before MV. Then I'm flying on up into
> Washington for 4 days. This will take me right up to the MV
> weekend.
> I have people call me all the time for maint. ideas or tips on the
> 912 and you all are welcome to call and I will walk you through it
> or help in some other way.
> The three big things that should be addressed on most planes is carb
> balance (if they have carbs), prop balance and making sure the prop
> blades all have the exact same pitch. These three items are not hard
> to accomplish. Although you usually need someone for the prop
> balance. The other two are very easy. I'm on other flight forums and
> we address these items and all understand their importance.
>
> --------
> Roger Lee
> Tucson, Az.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107790#107790
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/carb_sync_1501_127.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I
have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable
filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think
polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the
fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it
because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a
problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important
on Mexican water, and really important in the air.
Lar.
On 4/18/07, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe there's a reason why some people have moved away from glass bowls:
>
> NTSB Identification: *FTW95LA072
> *Accident occurred Saturday, December 24, 1994 in LA PORTE, TX
> "LOSS OF ENGINE POWER DUE TO FUEL STARVATION AS RESULT OF THE FAILURE OF
> THE GLASS BOWL ON THE GASCOLATOR."
>
> NTSB Identification: *LAX95LA150
> *Accident occurred Friday, March 31, 1995 in EL CAJON, CA
> "a loss of engine power due to an in-flight separation of the fuel system
> gascolator glass bowl resulting in a premature fuel exhaustion"
>
> Ehhh, naw, maybe the NTSB was just looking for SOMEthing and could only
> come up with a broken glass bowl (probably caused by the crash).
>
> Or not.
>
> -- Robert
>
> do not archive
>
> On 4/18/07, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > At 03:38 PM 4/18/2007, henry.voris wrote:
> >
> > > If you're worried about water contaminated gasohol carrying
> > > moisture to the innards of your two-stroke engine and rusting the
> > > bearings... it ain't gonna happen. There are plenty of bad things
> > about
> > > gasohol but this isn't one of them.
> > > The ethanol in the gasohol not only attracts water, it forms a
> > > little cage around each water molecule. To get them to separate takes
> > > adding another alcohol and a two step distillation process....learn to
> > > live with the lead (check plugs and for carbon more frequently).... If
> > ya
> > > gotta use gasohol install a gascolator so you can catch any problems
> > > before they get to your carburetor...
> >
> > That's interesting... my understanding has always been that methanol, at
> > least, is a problem for corrosion. Does ethanol react that much
> > differently? Or is it a problem mainly because methanol based fuels (
> > e.g.
> > model glow fuel) is mostly methanol, rather than the 10% in
> > gasohol? Then
> > there's the coming E85 fuel, which is 85% ethanol...
> >
> > Re the gascolators... on my Taylorcraft I had a gascolator with a glass
> > bowl, which was nice because I could see what was in it before draining
> > it. All the aircraft gascolatars I can find nowadays are all metal, and
> > all the automotive or power equipment ones are small and have no
> > drain. I'd like to put a glass bowl gascolator-- with a drain-- on my
> > Ultrastar, replacing (or supplementing) the inline fuel filter. Anybody
> > got any suggestions?
> >
> > -Dana
> >
> >
> >
> >
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
Lar --
Is this the one:
http://reddenmarine.com/site/new-detail.cfm?id=RAC215R2
-- Robert
On 4/18/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
>
> This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I
> have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable
> filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think
> polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the
> fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it
> because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a
> problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important
> on Mexican water, and really important in the air.
> Lar.
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
How about a long loop of clear tubing with a little water inside. That is
how I tuned mine a few years ago as per Dennis's suggestion.
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb Gayheart
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
Roger
How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together and
adj for Zero...? Herb
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
writes:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages.
> Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set of
> vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each.
> Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and you
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
I think I hit the send button before I got my mind in gear.. One gauge
won't work as I described it.. One gauge should work other wise.. one
side at a time. Watch the tach. Herb
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:36:03 -0400 "Terry Swartz" <terry@juliaswartz.com>
writes:
> <terry@juliaswartz.com>
>
> How about a long loop of clear tubing with a little water inside.
> That is
> how I tuned mine a few years ago as per Dennis's suggestion.
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herb
> Gayheart
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:24 PM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912
>
>
> Roger
>
> How about one gauge? Tee the two vaccuum take off points together
> and
> adj for Zero...? Herb
> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:26:13 -0700 "Roger Lee"
> <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
> writes:
> <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Here is a picture of a simple carb balance set of gages.
> > Mine are liquid filled, but they don't have to be. Pick up a set
> of
> > vacumm gages from Checker, Pepboys or Auto Zone for $15-$19 each.
>
> > Some tubing and a couple of fittings from the hardware store and
> you
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
At 07:07 PM 4/18/2007, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>If you are just interested in seeing if water is dropping out, there is a
>small one available for motorcycles that can be purchased from:
>
>http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com
>
>Part # Z90395 - $9.95
Problem with that one (like the tractor parts) is no drain, unless you
remove the bowl each time... messy. The aircraft gascolator on my T-Craft
had a glass tube between a metal top and bottom, with the drain in the bottom.
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Hi Guys,
You need two gages because you need to compare the two at the same time so you
can set the needles to the same on both. Makes your life a 100% easier.
A water column type gage will work provided that everything is 100%equal on both
sides. The water column works it's just a crude way to do it. If you are off
on one side or the other then you will not be able to balance the carbs. Why
go through the trouble of trying to make everything that precise when you can
pick up a gage for $15 and be done with it?
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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Subject: | Re: Gasohol, gascolators |
Perty close, Robert, but that one's for a diesel. Mine has a smaller filter
section, and a larger, blue colored bowl. The whole thing's a little bigger
than my fist. Lar.
On 4/18/07, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
>
> Lar --
>
> Is this the one:
>
> http://reddenmarine.com/site/new-detail.cfm?id=RAC215R2
>
> -- Robert
>
> On 4/18/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
> >
> > This subject came up a bit ago, and I'll repeat my comment from then - I
> > have a Racor marine fuel filter/separator on my boat that has a replaceable
> > filter element (like a standard oil filter) and a plastic (I think
> > polycarbonate, but not certain) see-thru bowl. Easy to see water in the
> > fuel, easy to change, not too expensive, and not too large. I got it
> > because I was fishing in Baja and buying gas down there. Never did have a
> > problem, but it's nice to be sure. Important on the water, more important
> > on Mexican water, and really important in the air.
> > Lar.
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Gang,
LONG day for Paul P. Woke up at 1:00am CDST and drove 1.5 hrs climbed in the King
air E90 and wheels up at 3:50am and got home with red face and wobbly legs
at 9:30pm CDST. I got to visit with Mark G., Travis,Donnie,Brian,Steve B. Bruce
and the welder of TNK that his name escapes me at the moment. Met another Kolbra
builder #16 of Daytona Fl. he just as I had MANY MANY questions about how
did you do this, how did you do that.....and furthermore WHY !!! I really hate
I missed my buddy John H and felow kolbra pilot John W but we were on a tight
schedule. Hope we didint saw John H in half on departure as there were airplanes
EVERWHERE! We came within I'd say 100 yards of a rockwell comander that we
caught up with less than the 3 mile straight out rule who decided to make his
turn a bit early. Was interesting none the less. It was a fun/hot/windy/expensive/tireing
day but loved it. Kinda neat siting in a group of guys talking about
my Kolb all the way up to 2.5 million dollar aircraft but to be honest...
the Kolb factory firestar stole everyones heart Once again!
When we got out of the KAe90 and the multi mil owner who i had spent an hour next
to explaining the history and design of Kolb aircraft to...he said LOOK there
is a kolb in the patteren and he is waxing everything!
I wonder how many hours that firefly has on it?
Point....Last time for me was S-N-F 2003 there were hundreds of PPC's and Trikes.
Today there were only 2 PPC's maybe 10 boths for PPC PPG-1 in the UL area.
It was only the second day of the show but a lot less of the PPC's and no PPG's
flying. wind was high but the little Kolb firefly was in the air the whole time
al day!
Go Homer!
sorry for typos bla bla but i have been up 22 hrs today and drove 3 hrs flew 5
hrs and walked god knows how many miles!
take care
--------
Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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Subject: | Re: HELP! N numbering my Xtra? |
There is no deadline for experiemental amateur built. Planes can still be built
and N numbered after 2008.
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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Subject: | Lexan Wing Gap Seal |
Is there any issues with regards to flight performance when the Wing gap seal is
not used?
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