---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/20/07: 34 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:17 AM - Re: Lakeland (icrashrc) 2. 05:18 AM - Re: Lakeland (icrashrc) 3. 05:18 AM - Re: Lakeland (icrashrc) 4. 07:23 AM - Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (John H Murphy) 5. 07:27 AM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (Richard Pike) 6. 07:32 AM - Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (Paul Petty) 7. 07:36 AM - Re: Lakeland (Paul Petty) 8. 07:44 AM - Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (Jim Dunn) 9. 07:55 AM - Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (Paul Petty) 10. 07:59 AM - Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight (jimhefner) 11. 08:58 AM - Re: Firestar lift struts (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 12. 09:51 AM - Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (Dana Hague) 13. 09:58 AM - Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil (herbgh@juno.com) 14. 10:08 AM - Re: Firestar lift struts (herbgh@juno.com) 15. 01:04 PM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL) 16. 01:59 PM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (Roger Lee) 17. 02:00 PM - Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight (grabo172) 18. 03:27 PM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (Larry Bourne) 19. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: Lakeland (Todd Fredricks) 20. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight (Dana Hague) 21. 05:38 PM - Lexan Wing Gap Seal - revisited (John H Murphy) 22. 06:12 PM - Re: Lakeland (Richard Pike) 23. 06:15 PM - q (Russ Kinne) 24. 06:21 PM - Re: Re: Gasohol, gascolators (Denny Rowe) 25. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Lakeland (Eugene Zimmerman) 26. 07:23 PM - lakeland..pic of John Hauck...frid. (Arksey@aol.com) 27. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Lakeland (Richard Pike) 28. 07:25 PM - Kolb Firestar @ Lakeland Sun n' fun (ruscok) 29. 07:38 PM - Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight (grabo172) 30. 07:43 PM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (jimhefner) 31. 07:46 PM - Re: Lexan Wing Gap Seal - revisited (Larry Bourne) 32. 07:52 PM - lakeland and pic of john Williamson, his Kolbra and my grandson (Arksey@aol.com) 33. 08:14 PM - lakeland...pic of Ric Neilsen and the Kolb stand... (Arksey@aol.com) 34. 08:34 PM - lakeland and pic of Steve Boetto's Firefly on floats (Arksey@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: "icrashrc" Here's few pics of the M3X at the Kolb display. -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108056#108056 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/gap_seal_515.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:06 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: "icrashrc" second one... -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108057#108057 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_wing_372.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: "icrashrc" last one -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108058#108058 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wingtip_180.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:16 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil From: "John H Murphy" I've been buying my 2 stroke oil from CPS. There must be a better source for buying 2 stroke oil. I tried K-Mart & Target last night. No luck. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108079#108079 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:08 AM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 Throttle Cable Failure CPS sells replacement brass ferrules, and here is how to guarantee the wire will not pull through. One end of the ferrule is countersunk, the other is square cut, apparently to make it easier to slip over the cable. Slip the ferrule on the wire backwards so that the countersunk end is toward the end of the cable. Now take an Xacto knife and rat tail the exposed end of the cable. Pull the cable down into the ferrule a bit until it starts to bind, if it is rat tailed really bad, it can't go through. You ought to have about 1/16" sticking out. Now solder it, the solder will lock the splayed rat tailed ends in place in the countersink, make it solid so that it cannot compress, and now you have a cable end that is too big to fit through the countersunk end of the ferrule, in addition to the solder joint itself. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:54 PM Subject: Kolb-List: 912 Throttle Cable Failure > > > > Kolb Friends - > > This morning, when flying my Mark-III, I experienced a broken throttle > cable on the 912ul engine. This awarded me the opportunity to execute > my FIRST dead stick landing in my Kolb. I'm happy to report the landing > was uneventful. > > I had been flying for about 15 minutes; I was about 3 miles from my home > field. I wanted to look at something in a field, so I descended and > retarded the throttle to get a bit closer. At about 100 feet AGL I felt > a snap in the throttle lever and the mighty 912 went to full throttle. > > I knew exactly what had happened: the throttle cable had broken > somewhere, and the 912 series engines are designed to go to full > throttle if this happens. Flew back to my airport, entered the pattern > (still at 100%), established a downwind at 1000 AGL, then flipped the > magneto switches to "off." > > What a rush. > > All your senses are screaming at you in alarm, in the very unfamiliar > silence. I pegged my glide rate at 55 mph, and the airplane felt very > stable. What I also realized was, this Mark-III was descending more > steeply than my usual power-off (idle) approach. Obviously, the stopped > prop creates more drag than an idling engine, for my setup anyway. I > used half flaps for landing, but would have been better off if I had > used none. > > I announced to the traffic pattern my situation - that I was dead stick > and headed for THAT runway. (I even got to say "mayday" on the radio.) > > After landing, I had to push my 650 lbs of airplane a half mile back to > the hangar. (Whew - good workout!) But WAY better'n being stuck out > somewhere, if I had been forced to land because of carburetors that > spring to idle. > > I disassembled the throttle splitter tube and confirmed that the cable > had indeed separated from the splitter assembly. The tiny brass ferrule > that is soldered to the end of the cable (this is what keeps it seated > in the splitter slider) had pulled off. I had soldered this ferrule on > during construction. It was my own workmanship that failed here, > nothing the fault of the Rotax. > > After discussing the details with the local A&P at my airport, he > concluded that is was likely a cold solder that caused it to let loose. > His advice was to get a hotter soldering iron (or flame), tin the > braided strands well before flowing the solder in. Even if you are > using solder with flux in it, still apply flux to the braided cable > before you touch it with the solder. > > It is fascinating to me how the mechanical failure of a part the size of > an uncooked grain of rice can put you on the ground. > > And the 912ul fail-safe design of the carb setup got me home safe. I > love this little engine. > > Lesson here is: Give appropriate attention to even the LITTLE details > during your building process. That tiny little brass ferrule needs to > be soldered correctly for it to do it's job. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-III, 912ul, 66.6 hrs on the Hobbs when I took off, this flight, in > Cedar Crest, NM > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:03 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil From: "Paul Petty" John, I stock it and sell it to my 2 stroke buddys. $1.76 a bottle plus shipping in your case. Call me for a shipping quote if you wish. 601-782-4506 or cell 601-480-9979 do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108084#108084 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:44 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: "Paul Petty" Scott, If your still at lakeland can you snap some pics of the cable system at the rear of the fuselage and under the wing where the aileron cable attaches? Also one of the fiberglass seat set up. thanks do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108085#108085 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:30 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil From: "Jim Dunn" Use the Yellow pages and call around town looking for a Pennzoil distributor. I found one locally (in Spokane WA). Ask for the Penzoil 4130 (2 stroke air-cooled engines, pints). Last Summer it was $36/case of 24 pints, plus tax. I paid $38.47 two weeks ago. I've been buying my 2 stroke oil from CPS. There must be a better source for buying 2 stroke oil. I tried K-Mart & Target last night. No luck. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:18 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil From: "Paul Petty" Jim, you were one step ahead of me. A local distribitor is the way to go. I pay 36.00 a case for the stuff. Shipping is what eats you up these days. do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108092#108092 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:23 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight From: "jimhefner" Adriel's plane is a modified Twinstar. For many years he flew the Twinstar with a 582, but swapped it out for a 912S a few years ago before doing a shoot in Hawaii. The assumption was that he wanted more reliability flying over lots of water and hostile terrain.... nothing new for him. He also got lots of extra durability/range due to improved fuel economy over the 582, which was likely a key part of the decision. Last week I learned 2nd hand that Adriel has recenly purchased a FlightDesign CTsw. I understand he plans to fly it with doors removed, since there is no strut to interfere with photography. He recently flew the CT to Tucson from Montrose, CO with his wife Holly and stopped in at La Cholla airpark to visit my flight instructor and wife. I missed seeing him by less than 30 minutes.... darn it!! I saw a couple photos of Adriel and Holly with the new plane. Full glass cockpit!! Quite a change from the old Twinstar with wind in his face and boots hanging in the breeze.... interesting to see this news clip.... that is what he has been known for since the beginning. With the CT he will fly to his photo locations instead of towing the Twinstar in his trailer and flying local. -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108093#108093 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:34 AM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar lift struts In a message dated 4/20/2007 12:26:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, herbgh@juno.com writes: I hoped that they were 6061 t6 since I have quite an assortment of that Herb, Just for your information, the specification of 2024-T3 which I gave you was taken directly from the plans and material packing list. I agree, it would be best to ask someone at Kolb. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:51:27 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil At 10:22 AM 4/20/2007, John H Murphy wrote: > >I've been buying my 2 stroke oil from CPS. There must be a better source >for buying 2 stroke oil. I tried K-Mart & Target last night. No luck. I bought a few cases from Lockwood, until I found it at the local Advance Auto Parts. Advance only has 8oz bottles, though... fine for my PPG but now that I have a Kolb I'll have to look for other options. -Dana -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Best source for Pennzoil 2 Stroke oil From: herbgh@juno.com $36 bucks for 24 16 oz bottles from your local distributor.. At least that is what it was last fall.. That is a $1.50 each... Herb do not archive On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:22:51 -0700 "John H Murphy" writes: > > I've been buying my 2 stroke oil from CPS. There must be a better > source for buying 2 stroke oil. I tried K-Mart & Target last night. > No luck. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar lift struts From: herbgh@juno.com Hi Bill Not doubting your word.. I knew you were correct and would not speculate on a critical part of the airframe.. Thanks again,,, Given the difference in gross wt; I need to chat with Kolb and I will be stopping by there next week.. Will likely buy the material there. too. As I said , Bryan built a single lift strut firefly and I need to chat with him on some details.. Herb On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:57:52 EDT WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com writes: In a message dated 4/20/2007 12:26:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, herbgh@juno.com writes: I hoped that they were 6061 t6 since I have quite an assortment of that Herb, Just for your information, the specification of 2024-T3 which I gave you was taken directly from the plans and material packing list. I agree, it would be best to ask someone at Kolb. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive See what's free at AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" << Just curious, did you turn L/R base then L/R final with no power? If you chopped the power as you beaked the numbers how well did she glide in the 180? Paul P. >> Paul, and All - While I still had power, I positioned my Mark-III into the exact spot in the traffic pattern that I usually fly it, when under power. At 1000' AGL and abeam the numbers on a downwind leg, I cut the mags. >From this point, on a normal approach with power pulled back to near idle, my plane would continue on downwind another half minute, then turn base & final, and touch down on the last third of the mile-long runway. Dead stick, I barely made it to the first third of the runway. Dennis Kirby ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:34 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure From: "Roger Lee" Hi Guys, There are many reasons for an engine out. We have broached this subject once before to practice real engine out dead sticks. The Kolb under idle lands differently from a full engine out. The glide on a full engine out is shorter. Best way to practice so you can be comfortable with them is to be on final and know you absolutely have the runway. Reach up and kill the engine. You are now no different from a glider pilot. Keep up your speed, maybe add 5 mph, fly it to the runway and land. It handles very well and there are no suprises. Land it like you always do. When I practiced mine in the Mark III I would come in at 65 mph no flaps, with 20 flaps I would come in at 55 mph. Go up a few thousand feet and glide around a while just to get comfortable and relaxed. Pretty soon you will think this is fun. You sure won't worry if the engine quits so long as you have a landing site in range. Glider pilots glide and land all the time, I don't know why so many power plant pilots panic and crash when the engine quits. Ahhhh, could it be they never practiced or tried these. The time to practice is before you have a real problem. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108177#108177 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight From: "grabo172" OK... Can anyone tell me how he gets past the limitation on E-AB and E-LSA Operating Limitations that say the aircraft can't be used for commercial purposes? I ask, because I'm an aerial photographer, and legally, I can't use my Firestar as a photo platform if I'm going to sell the photos as part of a business. I did many weeks of research and calling the FSDO and everything to see if I could use it... the final answer was... NO I would LOVE to be able to use my Firestar instead of having to rent a 172 everytime I go on a photoshoot. Not only to save money ($9/hour vs $165/hour), but it is a MUCH better photo platform. So any ideas on how he can do it legally, or is he just doing it illeagally? -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108179#108179 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:04 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 Throttle Cable Failure You make me think of the wire rope chokers we used when skidding logs in Idaho. For on the spot repairs we'd use a cutter and sledgehammer to trim the end of the wire rope square, slip the ferrule over it, then spread the strands as you say, but carefully, so's not to frazzle them. Then we'd insert a tapered, grooved 2 piece plug into the end of the wire rope and pull the ferrule back down over it. Smack it tight a few times with a hammer and go use it. Never, ever saw one slip, and they took enormous impacts and loads. I wonder if such a thing would be feasible for the smaller wire ?? It's the same construction, just a different scale. Lar. On 4/20/07, Richard Pike wrote: > > > CPS sells replacement brass ferrules, and here is how to guarantee the > wire > will not pull through. One end of the ferrule is countersunk, the other is > square cut, apparently to make it easier to slip over the cable. Slip the > ferrule on the wire backwards so that the countersunk end is toward the > end > of the cable. Now take an Xacto knife and rat tail the exposed end of the > cable. Pull the cable down into the ferrule a bit until it starts to bind, > if it is rat tailed really bad, it can't go through. You ought to have > about > 1/16" sticking out. Now solder it, the solder will lock the splayed rat > tailed ends in place in the countersink, make it solid so that it cannot > compress, and now you have a cable end that is too big to fit through the > countersunk end of the ferrule, in addition to the solder joint itself. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 2:54 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: 912 Throttle Cable Failure > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: Todd Fredricks Boy, that is a pretty MIIIX Hope it is at OSH Todd On 4/20/07 8:17 AM, "icrashrc" wrote: > > > second one... > > -------- > Scott > > www.ill-EagleAviation.com > > do not archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108057#108057 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_wing_372.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:09 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight At 05:00 PM 4/20/2007, grabo172 wrote: >...legally, I can't use my Firestar as a photo platform if I'm going to >sell the photos as part of a business. I did many weeks of research and >calling the FSDO and everything to see if I could use it... the final >answer was... NO > > >I would LOVE to be able to use my Firestar instead of having to rent a 172 >everytime I go on a photoshoot. Not only to save money ($9/hour vs >$165/hour), but it is a MUCH better photo platform. > >So any ideas on how he can do it legally, or is he just doing it illeagally? $165 an hour? Yikes! Sure has gone up since the last time I rented one! Depending on your intentions, it could be a gray area. It's OK to take pictures-- photography is a legitimate recreational activity-- and it's OK to sell them later-- but you're not allowed to make a flight for the purpose of taking pictures that you intend to sell. Enforcement would be unlikely... unless you were advertising an aerial photography business or taking orders to photograph specific things. AC103.7 says, "Persons are not prohibited from flying ultralights and then authoring books about their experiences for which they ultimately receive compensation," which is what Adriel seems to be doing. -Dana -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:59 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Lexan Wing Gap Seal - revisited From: "John H Murphy" I've received a lot of responses about the need to have a gap seal. I guess stall speeds increase & performance in general is severely degraded. Mine is pretty shot. Has anyone built one that is permanent? Does not need to be removed everytime you fold the wings. Barring that does Kolb sell one or is it usual for one to fabricate your own? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108209#108209 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:04 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland From: "Richard Pike" Pitchurs you say? Okey Dokey. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108214#108214 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030927_large_403.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030925_large_126.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030923_large_976.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030919_large_248.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030918_large_200.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030917_large_124.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030902_large_193.jpg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:15:26 PM PST US From: Russ Kinne Subject: Kolb-List: q I would feel anxious if I knew my throttle cable were held only by solder. The suggestion by Richard pike is a very good one, and in fact any way that a splayed-out cable can be secured with a jamming plug. Used all the time on sailboats, but never saw anything as small as a throttle cable. I wonder if an end could be cold-swedged on? That's an awesomely strong terminal fitting, approaching the strength of the cable itself. Possibly you could even run it thru a two-hole swedge fitting, making the smallest loop possible. That would certainly hold. I once had the mix-control come out in my hand, going down the Fraser River valley in BC at about 400'; the wire simply broke. I assumed it had a return-to-full-rich spring & just flew along another half hour and landed at Hope. THEN I found out there was no such spring! -- but I hadn't tried to change the mix setting & all worked out OK. Got an automotive control, installed it & used it another 500 hours or so. But overall, what Roger Lee says -- "The time to practice is before you have a real problem" is the best advice anyone could get, for any subject. I don't know for sure, but suspect a high-drag aircraft like a Kolb would be similar to Cessnas on floats --power-off, you have to hold a startlingly steep angle of descent to keep your airspeed up, then flare at a few feet above your landing surface. Otherwise you're lilkely to stall. With a WOT throttle I think I'd roar along downwind & base, start final and when I'm SURE I had the field made, kill the engine & bleed off speed. If I thought everyone in the vicinity had radio contact I think I'd announce my problem & make a straight-in approach, holding power until over the threshold. But every situation is different, I wasn't there, and Dennis did a fine job of handling the problem and landed without bashing anyone or anything. A fine piece of work in anyone's book! ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:21:23 PM PST US From: "Denny Rowe" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Gasohol, gascolators Steve, Please give me that part number again, I think I want one. Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: N27SB@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Gasohol, gascolators In a message dated 4/19/2007 9:44:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rowedenny@windstream.net writes: Steve, Did it have a sump drain and glass bowel? Denny Rowe yup steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 4/19/2007 5:56 PM ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:50 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland Richard, Thanks much for the picts of the new kolb details. What are they saying about performance improvements with the new features? Gene On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030927_large_403.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030925_large_126.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030923_large_976.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030919_large_248.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030918_large_200.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030917_large_124.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030902_large_193.jpg ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 07:23:34 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: lakeland..pic of John Hauck...frid. spent the whole day in the ultra light area. Met John Hauck for the 1st time and had a good visit with him...made the trip worth while...grandson Kendall Rusco also was with me and also met John...attached is Pic. of john and his mklll jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:37 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland The airplane is not yet licensed. Will be a while for results, it is a test mule. (But a really gorgeous one!) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Lakeland > > > Richard, > Thanks much for the picts of the new kolb details. > What are they saying about performance improvements with the new > features? > > Gene > > On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:11 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030927_large_403.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030925_large_126.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030923_large_976.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030919_large_248.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030918_large_200.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030917_large_124.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1030902_large_193.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Firestar @ Lakeland Sun n' fun From: "ruscok" Its always good to see this famous firestar at either Osh Kosh or Sun n' Fun showing off the great flight characteristics of the Kolb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjd38jvHWk Kendall Rusco ruscok@gmail.com 517.230.9000 Michigan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108228#108228 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:14 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-related news story on KSL tonight From: "grabo172" $165... $135 for the plane and $30 for a pilot... the company I rent from for my photoshoots doesn't allow commercial flights without thier instructor on board. I used to be an instructor for them. Photo flights were the most fun flights I got to do. But since I'm no longer with them as a pilot, I have to pay the extra for them. Wish I could use my Kolb! -------- -Erik Grabowski Kolb Firestar N197BG CFI/CFII/LS-I Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108233#108233 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure From: "jimhefner" Nice going Dennis!! Glad to hear you got your plane down without incident.... looking forward to seeing you at MV soon! It's good that it happend close to home and not enroute to MV!! I practiced power-off (engine at idle) glide approaches regularly in the Firefly and performed several approaches with engine off.... I found the Firefly glided better and further with engine off than it did at idle. The prop disc was acting like a brake when the engine was still running. I also always did normal approaches, cutting the engine off abeam the runway at different altitudes from 500 - 1000' AGL, adjusting the glide path accordingly. I didn't give away a lot of runway on the glide approach since I had a long runway to play with. I did more of a circling pattern approach than a squared-off base and final. That way I could pick a reference point on the runway (like aiming marks) and always maintain the same relative angle to the ref point, like picking a spot on your windshield and keeping it there on final. I practiced power off approaches a bunch in the 150 before going for my practical test last month. When the examiner pulled the power I wasn't the least bit nervous... I setup a 65mph glide, went through the emergency checklist and setup for a normal right pattern at a glider airstrip out in the desert west of Tucson. I had the runway made with ease on final and was starting to apply some flaps when he told me to abort the landing. Later the examiner asked me if I had been a glider pilot previously.... :) I took that as a real compliment. As Roger said, practice, practice, practice!! Don't wait until you have an emergency to practice!! Dennis was lucky to have full power at his disposal... that's not always the case. Way to go Dennis!! -------- Jim Hefner Kolbless in Tucson :( Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108234#108234 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:02 PM PST US From: "Larry Bourne" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Lexan Wing Gap Seal - revisited John, there's a little showing on page 3 & 4 of the Engine and Redrive section of Building Vamoose on my website: www.gogittum.com . I just reviewed it, and was amazed that that was 3 years ago already. Lots of water under the bridge, and the redrive lives at the Palm Springs City Landfill now. On 4/20/07, John H Murphy wrote: > > > I've received a lot of responses about the need to have a gap seal. I > guess stall speeds increase & performance in general is severely degraded. > Mine is pretty shot. Has anyone built one that is permanent? Does not need > to be removed everytime you fold the wings. Barring that does Kolb sell one > or is it usual for one to fabricate your own? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108209#108209 > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:41 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: lakeland and pic of john Williamson, his Kolbra and my grandson Hi Gang, Met John Wiliamson today , Frid at lakeland, looked over his Kolbra both him and John H are interesting to talk with and have lots of good info. The best part is that they are willing to share with you and be helpful...so had a wonderful time and my granson Kendall Rusco got some more education. attached is pic of John w. and my granson setting in his kolbra. Jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 08:14:23 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: lakeland...pic of Ric Neilsen and the Kolb stand... Hello gang. attached is pic of Ric Neilsen on the left...Ric only live's about 15 miles north of me in Michigan...flys a Kolb MK lll with a vw engine....we plan on flying our Kolbs to some of the fly ins in Michigan this summer...had a enjoyable time with Ric this afternoon ...frid....at lakeland.. jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:41 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: lakeland and pic of Steve Boetto's Firefly on floats attached pic is the firefly of steve's on floats...met Steve for the 1st time today at Sun-n fun....got lots of interesting info from him on kolb float flying today....he also got my grandson Kendall Rusco interested, I can see we may be doing some flying off from water in the future.. I wish to thank Steve here for doing that and also for all the info.... jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.