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1. 01:42 AM - Re: MV red bull air races (pat ladd)
2. 07:03 AM - MV red bull air races (boyd)
3. 09:18 AM - Re: MV red bull air races (herbgh@juno.com)
4. 09:30 AM - Re: MV red bull air races (Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL)
5. 09:50 AM - Re: MV red bull air races (pat ladd)
6. 10:06 AM - Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion (JetPilot)
7. 10:16 AM - Kolb Lazer prototype on Ebay (Eugene Zimmerman)
8. 10:25 AM - Help-- High Voltage? (Tom O'Hara)
9. 10:41 AM - Re: MV red bull air races (boyd)
10. 10:59 AM - Re: Help-- High Voltage? (boyd)
11. 11:47 AM - Re: Kolb Lazer prototype on Ebay (Paul Petty)
12. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: MV red bull air races (Larry Bourne)
13. 12:18 PM - Re: Help-- High Voltage? (Roger Lee)
14. 12:19 PM - Re: Help-- High Voltage? (Richard Pike)
15. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (John Hauck)
16. 03:29 PM - Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure (John Hauck)
17. 04:19 PM - Re: gap seal (kenanddenice@aol.com)
18. 04:19 PM - Re: gap seal (kenanddenice@aol.com)
19. 05:52 PM - low and not-so-slow video (Thom Riddle)
20. 06:47 PM - Re: low and not-so-slow video (John Williamson)
21. 07:36 PM - Re: low and not-so-slow video (henry.voris)
22. 08:12 PM - Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 (Roger Lee)
23. 10:20 PM - Re: rotax 447 longevity (DAquaNut@aol.com)
24. 10:22 PM - Re: Help-- High Voltage? (JetPilot)
25. 10:26 PM - Re: rotax 447 longevity (JetPilot)
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| Subject: | Re: MV red bull air races |
and the crowd will be limited to 5000 persons.>>
I should treat that figure with a dose of salt. The Red Bull organisation
wouldn`t bother to get out of bed for those sort of figures.
cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | MV red bull air races |
and the crowd will be limited to 5000 persons.>>
I should treat that figure with a dose of salt. The Red Bull organization
wouldn't bother to get out of bed for those sort of figures.
cheers
Pat
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The news report said that tickets were required,,,, and the numbers were
kept low to minimize the environmental impact on the environment. Also the
race area was to be in a remote area not visible from highway. The video
they showed was rather amazing.
Don't shoot the messenger
Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: MV red bull air races |
Lets see 5000 folks at $500 each? :-) Herb
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:03:25 -0600 "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net> writes:
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> and the crowd will be limited to 5000 persons.>>
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> I should treat that figure with a dose of salt. The Red Bull
> organization
> wouldn't bother to get out of bed for those sort of figures.
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> cheers
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> Pat
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> The news report said that tickets were required,,,, and the numbers
> were
> kept low to minimize the environmental impact on the environment.
> Also the
> race area was to be in a remote area not visible from highway. The
> video
> they showed was rather amazing.
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> Don't shoot the messenger
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> Boyd
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| Subject: | Re: MV red bull air races |
<< ... one of the concessions of having the races there is the airport
will be paved. Boyd >>
That's curious.
As most of the MV regulars know, one of the unique features of the
runway at Monument valley it that it is half paved, half dirt.
(Actually, one-fourth paved, three-fourths dirt.)
I understood the reason for this was because the paved part was on
Goulding's (private) property, and the rest of is on Navajo reservation
land. And although the Navajos allowed Goulding's runway to extend into
"their" land, their stipulation was that it remain unpaved. I guess
they changed their minds.
Dennis Kirby
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| Subject: | Re: MV red bull air races |
Don't shoot the messenger >>
Hi Boyd,
Sorry about that. It is a time honoured custom though!
Compared to the numbers which attended a local showing here 5000 seems
pretty small. Of course if they are really charging $500 that changes the
formula.
Here the charge was abouit $60 for a car load.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar II HKS Conversion |
Neat video !! I just went to Sun and Fun and saw the the HKS is being used on
a lot of very small planes, mostly weight shift trikes... The HKS is getting
a reputation for being a reliable, smooth running, light engine. The HKS looks
like the perfect engine for the Firestar, and its not that much more expensive
than a new 503 and gearbox....
Mike
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| Subject: | Kolb Lazer prototype on Ebay |
http://tinyurl.com/3xkp7l
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| Subject: | Help-- High Voltage? |
First, let me say that I am a buyer/flyer not a builder/flyer. Purchased a MKIII
a year and a half ago and have been having a ball. I believe it is the first
one out of the TN plant.
Saturday I went out for a flight and had an EIS warning light come on--- voltage.
Currently the EIS is set for 11.2 to 14.6 volts acceptable range. I was running
16.2 to 17.4.
Are the set points correct?
Where should I start trouble shooting?
What are the consequences of the high voltage?
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| Subject: | MV red bull air races |
Don't shoot the messenger >>
Hi Boyd,
Sorry about that. It is a time honoured custom though!
Compared to the numbers which attended a local showing here 5000 seems
pretty small. Of course if they are really charging $500 that changes the
formula.
Here the charge was abouit $60 for a car load.
Cheers
Pat
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is a time honoured custom>>>> shooting the messenger???? That seems a
bit harsh.
As for the $500. I have not heard if that is official. Even if they bus
the 5000 to the airshow location,,,,, where are they going to park that many
cars?
As for the paving.... wonder if they will extend the parking ramp? And
more tie downs? And I guess the Navaho Nation has come to realize that
the airport brings in additional revenue and visitors to the park.
Boyd
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| Subject: | Help-- High Voltage? |
Saturday I went out for a flight and had an EIS warning light come on---
voltage. Currently the EIS is set for 11.2 to 14.6 volts acceptable range.
I was running 16.2 to 17.4.
Are the set points correct?
Where should I start trouble shooting?
What are the consequences of the high voltage?
I think I would set the lower range to 11.8V the 14.6 seems ok. Lead acid
batteries are considered discharged at 11.8 V
If you are running 16.2 to 17.4 the first thing I would do is compare it to
another volt meter, if it is still that high I would check the battery, or
the voltage regulator/ rectifier. I would compare the voltage without
starting up the engine... no need of having the last test be the one to let
the smoke out.
You do know about the smoke don't you,,,,, the factory fills all
electronics with smoke before they sell them.... if you let the smoke out
they quit working.
the consequences of the high voltage could include smoking the eis, that
would be an expensive puff of smoke,,, it could also damage radios, gps,
etc, if they are using onboard power. It could even destroy the battery by
over charging it and boiling out the electrolyte.
Mine has always read 13.8 while running.
[Boyd]
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Lazer prototype on Ebay |
Speaking of lazers,
Is the Lazer project the canadain was working on out?
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
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| Subject: | Re: MV red bull air races |
That was my understanding, too, Dennis. It's gonna be interesting to
see. Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/23/07, Kirby Dennis Contr MDA/AL <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
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> Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
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> << ... one of the concessions of having the races there is the airport
> will be paved. Boyd >>
>
> That's curious.
>
> As most of the MV regulars know, one of the unique features of the
> runway at Monument valley it that it is half paved, half dirt.
> (Actually, one-fourth paved, three-fourths dirt.)
>
> I understood the reason for this was because the paved part was on
> Goulding's (private) property, and the rest of is on Navajo reservation
> land. And although the Navajos allowed Goulding's runway to extend into
> "their" land, their stipulation was that it remain unpaved. I guess
> they changed their minds.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Help-- High Voltage? |
You ought to check your regulator/rectifier. High voltage is what happens when
it goes out. Easy to replace. High voltage can damage instruments,
radios and batteries. They are not expensive and it stands a high probability for
the cause. I wouldn't fly it or run it any more than you have to until it's
fixed.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: Help-- High Voltage? |
11.2 to 14.6 would be a good normal.
As far as trouble shooting, what engine are you running? What
regulator/rectifier? Can't second guess the unknown, at least from this
end...
As far as the consequences - probably something like fried avionics, battery
with water boiled away (check it first), stuff like that.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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From: "Tom O'Hara" <tohara@alphagraphics.com>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 1:25 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Help-- High Voltage?
>
> First, let me say that I am a buyer/flyer not a builder/flyer. Purchased
> a MKIII a year and a half ago and have been having a ball. I believe it is
> the first one out of the TN plant.
>
> Saturday I went out for a flight and had an EIS warning light come on---
> voltage. Currently the EIS is set for 11.2 to 14.6 volts acceptable
> range. I was running 16.2 to 17.4.
>
> Are the set points correct?
> Where should I start trouble shooting?
> What are the consequences of the high voltage?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108679#108679
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
time so you can set the needles to the same on both.
| Roger Lee
Roger:
What does the above mean?
I don't recall "setting the needles"???
john h
mkIII A bunch.
912ULS 13.6 hours
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| Subject: | Re: 912 Throttle Cable Failure |
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 912 Throttle Cable Failure
Dennis/Gang:
Spend a buck and get a new cable. Why take a chance on another
failure.
Your home soldered cable is not the first failure I have heard about.
john h
mkIII
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I am between a wing-gap and a hard place right now...HA... I have been think
ing, looking, and scratching my head for ideas on how to do a better style o
f gap seal (other than what is shown on my Firestar II plan-set).
My Firestar is an 96 model....I'm a little slow!!! Cauz I'm not in a hurry!
!!!
I have not yet had the time to fully digest the information you have shown..
..but the few moments I have spent looking makes me want to jump out of my s
eat and say Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
***I love a great idea****
Any other information on this topic will help, I have attached two digital i
mages of my project.
Ken Gardner
Boise, Idaho.
-----Original Message-----
From: possums@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: gap seal
At 11:12 AM 4/21/2007, you wrote:
I've received a lot of responses about the need to have a gap seal. I guess
stall speeds increase & performance in general is severely degraded. Mine is
pretty shot. Has anyone built one that is permanent? Does not need to be
removed every time you fold the wings. Barring that does Kolb sell one or is
it usual for one to fabricate your own?
This one slides out, all you have to do is take two screws loose from the fr
ont.
Takes about 60 seconds. Here is the way we do it down south.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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WING GAP SEAL
See drawing sheet 44. In your kit are four 1/2"x5/8"x30" sheet metal
angles. Clamp two of these together with approximately 0.032 gap between the
1/2" legs and drill #30 holes with 1" spacing starting from one end for 16"
. Then cut metal to each of the holes so channels can be contoured to the wi
ng.
Drill and install channels with 2" spacing to IB side of IB wing ribs
with 1/8" rivets. Lay 0.020 sheet metal on top of wings and mark along each
channel (I think it is 6061 aluminum =93thin, but kind of stiff). Add
approximately 1/2" to each side of these marks and cut (You don=99t h
ave to get too tight of a fit here).
Now cut a section of 1 112" tubing to fit between wing LE tubes. Hold
tube in position and slide gap seal LE on tube and rivet in place. Cut a 1"
long piece of 1 1/2" aluminum tube. Then cut out 1/4" gap, as you did makin
g rear spar splices. Slide this piece into wing LE tube with Epoxy applied a
nd use sheet metal screws to attach the forward corners of gap seal to wing
LE tubes. The doubler makes a better thread for the sheet metal screws(drill
larger hole in gap seal for screw). I did mine a little different here and
just used one tube over the ends of the LE tubes that stick out about 2 inch
es on my plane.
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________________________________________________________________________
AOL at AOL.com.
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I am between a wing-gap and a hard place right now...HA... I have been think
ing, looking, and scratching my head for ideas on how to do a better style o
f gap seal (other than what is shown on my Firestar II plan-set).
My Firestar is an 96 model....I'm a little slow!!! Cauz I'm not in a hurry!
!!!
I have not yet had the time to fully digest the information you have shown..
..but the few moments I have spent looking makes me want to jump out of my s
eat and say Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Thank you!!!
***I love a great idea****
Any other information on this topic will help.
Ken Gardner
Boise, Idaho.
-----Original Message-----
From: possums@bellsouth.net
Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: gap seal
At 11:12 AM 4/21/2007, you wrote:
I've received a lot of responses about the need to have a gap seal. I guess
stall speeds increase & performance in general is severely degraded. Mine is
pretty shot. Has anyone built one that is permanent? Does not need to be
removed every time you fold the wings. Barring that does Kolb sell one or is
it usual for one to fabricate your own?
This one slides out, all you have to do is take two screws loose from the fr
ont.
Takes about 60 seconds. Here is the way we do it down south.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
WING GAP SEAL
See drawing sheet 44. In your kit are four 1/2"x5/8"x30" sheet metal
angles. Clamp two of these together with approximately 0.032 gap between the
1/2" legs and drill #30 holes with 1" spacing starting from one end for 16"
. Then cut metal to each of the holes so channels can be contoured to the wi
ng.
Drill and install channels with 2" spacing to IB side of IB wing ribs
with 1/8" rivets. Lay 0.020 sheet metal on top of wings and mark along each
channel (I think it is 6061 aluminum =93thin, but kind of stiff). Add
approximately 1/2" to each side of these marks and cut (You don=99t h
ave to get too tight of a fit here).
Now cut a section of 1 112" tubing to fit between wing LE tubes. Hold
tube in position and slide gap seal LE on tube and rivet in place. Cut a 1"
long piece of 1 1/2" aluminum tube. Then cut out 1/4" gap, as you did makin
g rear spar splices. Slide this piece into wing LE tube with Epoxy applied a
nd use sheet metal screws to attach the forward corners of gap seal to wing
LE tubes. The doubler makes a better thread for the sheet metal screws(drill
larger hole in gap seal for screw). I did mine a little different here and
just used one tube over the ends of the LE tubes that stick out about 2 inch
es on my plane.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________
AOL at AOL.com.
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| Subject: | low and not-so-slow video |
For you guys going to MV soon, keep your eyes open for these guys. Great low and
not-so-slow video in an area that looks a lot like MV but based on the hardware
and the last few seconds of the video, me thinks it might be elsewhere. I
promise you will enjoy viewing this one.
http://www.glumbert.com/media/flylow
Thom in Buffalo
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| Subject: | Re: low and not-so-slow video |
Nice video, but not even in this hemisphere!
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| Subject: | Re: low and not-so-slow video |
Frogs in Africa...
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| Subject: | Re: Balancing Carbs on a 912 |
Hi John,
Needles were in reference the needles on the gages.
I just meant that the needles on each gage should be set so they are the same.
i.e. When you have 5 on one gage you adjust the other carb so the needle on that
gage is 5 or what ever the reading maybe on each gage. Just get them set the
same.. syncing the carbs.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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| Subject: | Re: rotax 447 longevity |
Guys,
Im trying to make a decision. Your input will help me make the right one.
Has any one ran a 447 to 100 hours without a decarbon using pennzoil? Has
anyone had a 447 fail due to carbon under the rings before reaching 100 hours
while using Pennzoil air cooled exclusively? PLEASE, No oil war! If you have
experience That falls in either of these categories, I would like to have your
imput, otherwise please dont respond. Thanks in advance.
Ed Diebel (FF 62) <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR>
See
what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Help-- High Voltage? |
16.2 volts is way to high, you should never see it that high. You will fry something
in short order with a voltage that high. I would not fly the plane until
the voltage problem is fixed.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: rotax 447 longevity |
You wont get carbon buildup if you use Seafoam :) I asked a similar question
in the Rotax Forum and got some good information. I did not ask about oil,
but I did get a lot of responses on engine life. You might want to look at this
thread. It got broken into 4 threads, but some good information if you read
them all.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=23615
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
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