Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 04/27/07


Total Messages Posted: 38



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     1. 05:03 AM - Re: GPS and flying in the wind (icrashrc)
     2. 05:16 AM - Re: MicroTim altimeter (Thom Riddle)
     3. 06:00 AM - A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record (knowvne@aol.com)
     4. 06:24 AM - Re: GPS and flying in the wind (Vic Peters)
     5. 06:30 AM - Mo- Skeeters (Vic Peters)
     6. 06:33 AM - Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record (Blumax008@aol.com)
     7. 07:10 AM - Re: Fw: A Pilot's View..dup. (Ed Chmielewski)
     8. 07:12 AM - Sport pilot license (Jimmy)
     9. 07:29 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (John H Murphy)
    10. 07:33 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (Wayne T. McCullough)
    11. 07:42 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (Paul Petty)
    12. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: Sport pilot license (Dana Hague)
    13. 10:50 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (Paul Petty)
    14. 11:09 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (Paul Petty)
    15. 11:19 AM - Re: GPS and flying in the wind (kenanddenice@aol.com)
    16. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: Sport pilot license (Robert Laird)
    17. 01:28 PM - Re: Sport pilot license (Jimmy)
    18. 02:04 PM - Re: GPS and flying in the wind (John Hauck)
    19. 03:10 PM - Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record (Larry Bourne)
    20. 03:44 PM - Re: Mo- Skeeters (Dave Rains)
    21. 03:54 PM - Re: Flimsy Little paper Planes (Dave Rains)
    22. 04:08 PM - Re: Sport pilot license (Wayne T. McCullough)
    23. 04:10 PM - Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS (Dana Hague)
    24. 04:29 PM - Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record (David Lehman)
    25. 05:10 PM - GPS and new technologies (Mike Welch)
    26. 05:24 PM - Re: Sport pilot license (DANIEL WALTER)
    27. 05:36 PM - Re: GPS and new technologies (Dana Hague)
    28. 05:38 PM - Re: GPS and new technologies (George Alexander)
    29. 05:58 PM - Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point (Matt Hancuh)
    30. 06:14 PM - Re: GPS and new technologies (Mike Welch)
    31. 06:18 PM - Re: Re: GPS and new technologies (Mike Welch)
    32. 06:33 PM - Re: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS (Steven Green)
    33. 06:59 PM - John, Dick and Moody. Bearly at SnF (N27SB@aol.com)
    34. 07:45 PM - today's flight (Ralph B)
    35. 08:59 PM - Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it? (John H Murphy)
    36. 10:09 PM - Re: GPS and flying in the wind (boyd)
    37. 10:12 PM - Re: Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it? (Larry Cottrell)
    38. 10:18 PM - Re: GPS and new technologies (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:03:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS and flying in the wind
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    I looked long and hard at the 196 but ended up with a Lowrance Airmap 1000. Picked one up at Sun-n-Fun for $375. Played with for a while on the ride home while Carol was driving. I think i'm going to like it. Time will tell... -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109495#109495


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    Time: 05:16:33 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <thomriddle@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: MicroTim altimeter
    Skeeter Dave, We are taking the step today. If it works then that will save me some bucks. Thom in Buffalo do not archive


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    Time: 06:00:57 AM PST US
    Subject: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record
    From: knowvne@aol.com
    To UPDATE those who are interested .. Yesterday 2 HangGlider Pilots Jonny Durand & Dustin Martin Broke the East Coast XC Record of ( 218 miles for Flexwings ) & ( 234 miles For Rigid wing ) flying their Moyes Lightspeed and WW T2 Flex wing Hang Gliders ... The two were towed to altitude out of the Quest Air flight park in Clearmont, FL and flew an amazing 283 miles landing near Sylvania Georgia, which is just south of the South Carolina Border... CONGRATS to them both.... Truly An amazing flight when you consider the ocean of trees and swamps they had to cross to make it happen... Sorry for the Break in Topic but felt it was a News Worthy Event ... Mark Vaughn -----Original Message----- From: knowvne@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 6:28 PM Subject: Sorry, OFF topic - BUT A new East coast Hang Glider Record was set today... Hi All I just learned that 2 flex wing HangGlider pilots just Broke the east coast cross country record of 218 miles and were still in the air attempting to break the current Rigid Wing record of 234 miles... Flexi and Rigids are both Hanggliders... A Flexi is usually made of Alum (Tubes some times Carbon) and is controlled by Weight shift ... A Rigid wing is made of Carbon fiber D cells and is much stiffer .... It's controlled by Spoilers on it's wings Upper surface...... A Rigids L/D is about 5 points better than the Best Topless Flex wings being produced... But that Gap is closing... 8-) The two are shooting for at least 300 miles but even if they reach that the World record will still held by Mike Barber who flew over 400 miles (434 I think) in TEXAS.... The two were Towed up from Quest flight park in Clearmont FL Just NW of Orlando and last report t were past Jessup GA with cloud base around 7,000 ft and a cloud street going to the horizon... Will report their final distance once the day shuts down.... BTW that 7,000 foot cloud base equates to about a 20 mile glide Not counting the Tail wind.. 8-) AND if the Cloud street is really working the two could be hitting speeds over 60 miles per hour... Stay tuned... Mark Vaughn ________________________________________________________________________ from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________ from AOL at AOL.com. =0


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    Time: 06:24:54 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and flying in the wind
    Steven, Try looking at a Lowrance 2000c. 3"x4.25" screen. All the mounts you could imagine, charger, bat. backup,or panel power. Great for old half blind farts like me. $700 brand new complete. And no I'm not seling them. Vic Maine 912ul Extra do not archive


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    Time: 06:30:43 AM PST US
    From: "Vic Peters" <vicsvinyl@verizon.net>
    Subject: Mo- Skeeters
    Ellery, Ellery, Ellery, You should have known Skeeters ain't out here yet and when they are, we just squash the little suckers! All in fun Vic Maine


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    Time: 06:33:05 AM PST US
    From: Blumax008@aol.com
    Subject: Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record
    In a message dated 4/27/2007 9:01:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, knowvne@aol.com writes: Sorry for the Break in Topic but felt it was a News Worthy Event ... After tons of boring repetitive crap...any break is worth it. Guess that big fire helped a lot on the thermals. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 07:10:26 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Chmielewski" <edchmiel@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: A Pilot's View..dup.
    Thanks, Bob! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Noyer To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: A Pilot's View..dup. Yer correct, Ed...pull up http://forums.bowsite.com/TF/bgforums/thread.cfm?forum=1&threadid=336 344&MESSAGES=5&FF=CMT and read it again! For other C-130 tales...http://newsday.typepad.com/news_jay/ regards, Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/ do not archive


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    Time: 07:12:21 AM PST US
    From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
    Subject: Sport pilot license
    Would someone tell me if the Cessna 150 has been approved as a plane that the SPL trainer can be trained in? I fly a Firefly and would like to get my SPL. Working on getting my Firefly approved and inspected now. Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly #035, (N6007L) JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia Do Not Archive --


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    Time: 07:29:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812@yahoo.com>
    The C-150 does not meet the requirements of gross weight of 1320 lbs. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109534#109534


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    Time: 07:33:00 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    Jimmy, You know that I am at the Briar Patch....and we are working on a flying class for the fall..........Let me know if you are interested......... Wayne McCullough EAA 330 President 754-9598 Springfield, Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Sport pilot license > > Would someone tell me if the Cessna 150 has been approved as a plane that > the SPL trainer can be trained in? > > I fly a Firefly and would like to get my SPL. Working on getting my > Firefly approved and inspected now. > > Jimmy Hankinson > 912-863-7384 > Firefly #035, (N6007L) > JYL (Sylvania) > Pegasus Field (Home) > 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass > Rocky Ford, Georgia > Do Not Archive > > -- > > >


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    Time: 07:42:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    You can "train" in the C-150 yes. My 37hrs in our 150 that we sold count towards my SP ticket. do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109542#109542


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    Time: 09:31:22 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    At 10:41 AM 4/27/2007, Paul Petty wrote: > >You can "train" in the C-150 yes. My 37hrs in our 150 that we sold count >towards my SP ticket. Now there's a funny catch-22. As a student pilot, an instructor can give you dual and even sign you off to solo a C-150 (or even a C-172 or larger plane)... but as soon as you get your SP certificate you can't fly it any more. Go figure. -Dana do not archive -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 10:50:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    Dana, Im not for certian but I would think even with a SP ticket you could fly the C-150 or 172 or even larger for that matter as long as a CFI sings you off to do so. The SP ticket would not keep you from furthering your ratings. Agree? do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109583#109583


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    Time: 11:09:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    From: "Paul Petty" <paulpetty@myway.com>
    "I fly a Firefly and would like to get my SPL. Working on getting my Firefly approved and inspected now." Jimmy, What are you getting your firefly approved and inspected for? Is it not FAR 103 legal? If not what are you going to register it as? LSA? Do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109585#109585


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    Time: 11:19:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS and flying in the wind
    From: kenanddenice@aol.com
    I have a Lowrance 2000c that I am extremely happy with. The package was just over $700 complete, nothing else for me to buy....with the exception of a USB interface cable that is not really needed. I recommend looking at the 2000c, I believe it offers the biggest bang for the buck. All things considered I don't know what would top the 2000c however I would certainly like to know what others have found. Ken Gardner Boise, Idaho Firestar II -----Original Message----- From: vicsvinyl@verizon.net Sent: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS and flying in the wind Steven, Try looking at a Lowrance 2000c. 3"x4.25" screen. All the mounts you could imagine, charger, bat. backup,or panel power. Great for old half blind farts like me. $700 brand new complete. And no I'm not seling them. Vic Maine 912ul Extra do not archive ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 11:19:52 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Laird" <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    Well, it's not an SP ticket that would allow you to fly the 150/172/etc., it would be a signed-off-for-solo student private pilot certificate (i.e., a 3rd class medical). The SP ticket, in that case, would be irrelevant since you wouldn't need it to be flying on the 3rd class medical. But all your hours in an LSA as a SP would count toward a PPL or greater ticket. -- R On 4/27/07, Paul Petty <paulpetty@myway.com> wrote: > > > Dana, > > Im not for certian but I would think even with a SP ticket you could fly > the C-150 or 172 or even larger for that matter as long as a CFI sings you > off to do so. The SP ticket would not keep you from furthering your ratings. > Agree? > > > do not archive > > -------- > Paul Petty > Kolbra #12 > Ms Dixie > Final assembly! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109583#109583 > >


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    Time: 01:28:43 PM PST US
    From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    Wayne, I would be very glad to know more about that class, please let me know more of the details when you have them. How is your Kobra coming? Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly #035, (N6007L) JYL (Sylvania) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia --


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    Time: 02:04:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS and flying in the wind
    All things considered I don't know what would top the 2000c however I would certainly like to know what others have found. | | Ken Gardner Ken: I don't know about others, but I have thoroughly enjoyed flying with my Garmin 196. It has proven to be an invaluable aid, making my long cross country flights a lot safer, and more fun. john h mkIII


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    Time: 03:10:43 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bourne" <biglar@gogittum.com>
    Subject: Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record
    Thanks, Mark. I enjoyed it, and give them "A" for fortitude. Lar. Do not Archive. On 4/27/07, Blumax008@aol.com <Blumax008@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 4/27/2007 9:01:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > knowvne@aol.com writes: > > Sorry for the Break in Topic but felt it was a News Worthy Event ... > > After tons of boring repetitive crap...any break is worth it. Guess that > big fire helped a lot on the thermals. > > > ------------------------------ > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>. > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 03:44:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mo- Skeeters
    From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com>
    Com-0n ,bring yur squashers, we be ready fer yu! bet you carry a sling shot for protection, or maybe a garlic neclace. Aint scaeeeerd of no kolb drivers... Super Skeeter (got more hours in the beast than you, I'll bet) the T27 Alpha Pilot Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109621#109621


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    Time: 03:54:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flimsy Little paper Planes
    From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com>
    Yeah, I don't know the details about the Highlander's airframe, the kolb is very well designed. Another nice thing about the Kolbra is the tandum seating. In my line of work this is very important. The ability to maintain eye contact with a suspect on the ground is invaluable. Just as an addition, I'll have another opportunity to destroy Will's plane this fall on a Homeland Security Mission. Sorry Will, but we must all make sacrifices. Skeeter. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109623#109623


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    Time: 04:08:24 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne T. McCullough" <blackbird754@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    Ok guys, Bear with me.............LOL..............First of all the Kolbra is coming just fine...............Just wish I had more time to work on it....LOL..........ain't retired yet............. In our area it is hard to find a current flight instructor with a good personality and information also...........We did the written exam in the spring of last year and everyone in the club who was in the class went and passed the written in Statesboro, Ga @ Pegasus flight school..........They are now looking into the LSA class..........Great people. However, we used Mark Burpee of Destination Flight of 3 rivers Michigan.......Met him at Sun-n-fun.....teaches powered parachute and fixed wing..............But he and his flight school have 2 instructors who are willing to travel......... One of my friends bought a Sport Rally LSA..........and it was just delivered.........7Hrs. non-stop..........from Michigan to 9GA1 Briar Patch Springfield, GA.................WOW................34 gallons of gas...........BUT.............$ 110,000.00 later......... Gotta have my Kolbra...............and gonna get their too...........LOL....................Mark charges $ 110.00 an hour wet, for his aircraft and will train you in a N-numbered two seater for $ 30.00 per hour...............In the fall, we will have 7 members splitting the cost..........This is the way to go.................. Building still.........But life is getting in the way.........LOL Wayne McCullough Springfield, Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy" <jhankin@planters.net> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 4:28 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport pilot license > > Wayne, > > I would be very glad to know more about that class, please let me know > more of the details when you have them. > > How is your Kobra coming? > > Jimmy Hankinson > 912-863-7384 > Firefly #035, (N6007L) > JYL (Sylvania) > Pegasus Field (Home) > 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass > Rocky Ford, Georgia > > > -- > > >


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    Time: 04:10:17 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS
    Something I've been wondering about... When I learned to fly (too) long ago, GPS didn't exist; VOR (and even ADF in a well equipped plane) were the standard. Not having flown a radio equipped plane since the mid 1980's, I'm out of touch... now that GPS is ubiquitous, does anybody even use VOR any more? Seems the pocket GPS I use for backpacking is far more useful than VOR/DME (forget about ILS since to me the "R" in IFR stands only for "roads"). I ask because now that I have a Kolb I want to buy a handheld radio, probably the Icom A6, and I'm wondering if there's any reason spend the extra money for the VOR functions in the A24. (Actually some friends are probably buying it for me for designing the winning (and U.S. distance record setting!) plane from the last Red Bull Flugtag.) I'm open to other radio suggestions too, but I like the Icom for the small size, an advantage if I want to use it while flying my PPG too. -Dana do not archive -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 04:29:25 PM PST US
    From: "David Lehman" <david@davidlehman.net>
    Subject: Re: A New! East Coast XC Hang Glider Record
    Wow!... That's impressive... Thanx... DVD do not archive On 4/27/07, knowvne@aol.com <knowvne@aol.com> wrote: > > > To UPDATE those who are interested .. > Yesterday 2 HangGlider Pilots Jonny Durand & Dustin Martin Broke the > East Coast XC Record of ( 218 miles for Flexwings ) & ( 234 miles For > Rigid wing ) flying their Moyes Lightspeed and WW T2 Flex wing Hang > Gliders ... > > The two were towed to altitude out of the Quest Air flight park in > Clearmont, FL and flew an amazing 283 miles landing near Sylvania > Georgia, which is just south of the South Carolina Border... > > CONGRATS to them both.... > > Truly An amazing flight when you consider the ocean of trees and > swamps they had to cross to make it happen... > > Sorry for the Break in Topic but felt it was a News Worthy Event ... > > > Mark Vaughn > > -- "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty thi ngs"... ~Antoine de Saint-Exupery


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    Time: 05:10:15 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: GPS and new technologies
    Dana, and all others, Regarding GPS, if you do anything more than your local flights, I can't imagine not having a GPS with you. I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin 296. (My first GPS was a Garmin 95XL, which made me think flight planning and navigation couldn't get any better. I was wrong. Wow, what a difference a few years make in electronics!!! First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand. Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the ground. I found the "B Class Airspace" boundaries especially useful on my recent 800+ mile cross country. The "pointing arrow" function on the 296 is also very cool. You push a toggle to send the pointing arrow across your screen, and when it lands on whatever you want, a window pops up and displays the information; like airport identifier, and so forth. For my experience, I wouldn't leave home without it!!! Now, with all that wonderful stuff having been said about GPS's, the most important aspect of cross country navigation is YOUR piloting skills. A GPS can fail. ( It happened to me during severe turbulence for a few minutes...kind of skeerd me!) If you fly out of your normal flight routine and into new frontiers, i.e....cross country, the most important thing you need is a compass, a watch, and a chart (sectional). And tons of flight planning, alternate routes, etc. A good pilot will provide for himself ALL (within reason) the available tools he can to completely finish the intended flight. And this includes all aspects of "dead reckoning". A GPS is awesome, but don't make it your only source of navigation. If Hansel and Grettel had a GPS, I doubt VERY seriously they would have relied on the bread crumbs!!! They shoulda had a compass and a watch, too. Kolbs rule!! (To make this a legal post) Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office


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    Time: 05:24:49 PM PST US
    From: "DANIEL WALTER" <worrybear@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Sport pilot license
    Jimmy, The last I heard the 150 will never be approved for Sport Pilot, although Cessna is designing a SP plane. If you can get a medical why not go private pilot and train in the 150, I don't think it is a lot more difficult than SP. Dan Walter Ultrastar Palmyra, PA. Sport Pilot. Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:36:18 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and new technologies
    At 08:09 PM 4/27/2007, Mike Welch wrote: > Regarding GPS, if you do anything more than your local flights, I can't > imagine not having a GPS with you.... I wouldn't leave home without it!!! > > Now, with all that wonderful stuff having been said about GPS's, the > most important aspect of cross country navigation is YOUR piloting > skills. A GPS can fail.... If you fly out of your normal flight routine > and into new frontiers, i.e....cross country, the most important thing > you need is a compass, a watch, and a chart... I'm not questioning the value of GPS, which is a valuable tool... though when I had my T-Craft I thought nothing of 1000 mile XC flights with nothing electrical in the plane but the magnetos, and that still wouldn't bother me today. Flew once from St. Louis to upstate NY in a Tri-Pacer with not only no electrical system (well, it had one but it wasn't working) but no compass (actually it had one of them too, but it wasn't working either). Estimated our heading by the section lines across the midwest, then from PA on it was all pilotage... got dicey a few times when the clouds approached the mountain tops and the visibility got marginal... then another time there was that one XC formation flight when each of us thought the *other* guy had the chart... but I digress. I guess the original question basically came down to "is there any reason to spend extra money for a radio with VOR in the era of GPS?" -Dana do not archive -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 05:38:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS and new technologies
    From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
    Mike: Airspeed on a hand held GPS???? mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: > Dana, and all others, > > > > I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin 296. > > > > First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand. > Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the ground. > > > > Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North > of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border > > -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109639#109639


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    Time: 05:58:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point
    From: "Matt Hancuh" <mhancuh@msn.com>
    On an old Ultrastar. My first instinct is to sand them down to metal and paint them with some rustoleum or outdoor enamel. Should I even be concerned about these shallow scratches? Is there a better thing to do? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109641#109641 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/winghattachpoint_124.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rudderattachpoint_185.jpg


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    Time: 06:14:40 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS and new technologies
    Dana, Oh yeah, sorry, I didn't actually answer your question. In addition to wanting to finish my Kolb very soon, (Recall everyone, I am building a shop in my backyard for my airplanes.) I am also hoping to get back to finishing my GlaStar. My GlaStar is most likely going to spend more time doing x/c flights than the Kolb. And I have spent over $30,000 in just the panel. (Blue Mountain EFIS One, Dynon D10A, Garmin296, total Narco radio stack, Electronics Int'l MVP-50 and more.) And with all this new GPS stuff, which I am a firm believer in, ......even still, I elected to install a VOR in the GlaStar. VOR radials are an incredible value to keep you pointed where you want to end up. So, in answering your question, yes, I would recommend a VOR radio, providing your plane has the room and so forth. Mike in "68 degree Las Vegas radial (from)" Do not archive >From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS and new technologies >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:32:04 -0400 > > >At 08:09 PM 4/27/2007, Mike Welch wrote: > >> Regarding GPS, if you do anything more than your local flights, I can't >>imagine not having a GPS with you.... I wouldn't leave home without it!!! >> >> Now, with all that wonderful stuff having been said about GPS's, the >>most important aspect of cross country navigation is YOUR piloting skills. >> A GPS can fail.... If you fly out of your normal flight routine and into >>new frontiers, i.e....cross country, the most important thing you need is >>a compass, a watch, and a chart... > >I'm not questioning the value of GPS, which is a valuable tool... though >when I had my T-Craft I thought nothing of 1000 mile XC flights with >nothing electrical in the plane but the magnetos, and that still wouldn't >bother me today. Flew once from St. Louis to upstate NY in a Tri-Pacer >with not only no electrical system (well, it had one but it wasn't working) >but no compass (actually it had one of them too, but it wasn't working >either). Estimated our heading by the section lines across the midwest, >then from PA on it was all pilotage... got dicey a few times when the >clouds approached the mountain tops and the visibility got marginal... then >another time there was that one XC formation flight when each of us thought >the *other* guy had the chart... but I digress. I guess the original >question basically came down to "is there any reason to spend extra money >for a radio with VOR in the era of GPS?" > > -Dana >do not archive > >-- >-- >My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office


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    Time: 06:18:01 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS and new technologies
    Picky, picky, picky. :-) >From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net> >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS and new technologies >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:38:39 -0700 > > >Mike: > >Airspeed on a hand held GPS???? > > >mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: > > Dana, and all others, > > > > > > > > I am now on my second GPS, a Garmin 296. > > > > > > > > First, just about everything you need to know is right in your hand. > > Airspeed, altitude, and a visual of exactly where you are above the >ground. > > > > > > > > Mike in SW Somewhere 18.3 miles North > > of the Arizona border, 14.76 miles east of the Nevada border > > > > > > >-------- >George Alexander >http://gtalexander.home.att.net > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109639#109639 > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline


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    Time: 06:33:22 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS
    Dana, I have a Yaesu handheld with VOR reciever and it isn't very precise. It swings around a lot unless you are very close to the station. An external antenna might help, I am using the radio mounted antenna. Steven Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Hague" <d-m-hague@comcast.net> > > I ask because now that I have a Kolb I want to buy a handheld radio, > probably the Icom A6, and I'm wondering if there's any reason spend the > extra money for the VOR functions in the A24.


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    Time: 06:59:47 PM PST US
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    Time: 07:45:10 PM PST US
    Subject: today's flight
    From: "Ralph B" <ul15rhb@juno.com>
    Here are a few pics of today's flight. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 20 years flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109662#109662 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/lake_minnetonka__528.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/coming_into_winsted_1__363.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/launch_pad__888.jpg


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    Time: 08:59:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it?
    From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812@yahoo.com>
    Does anyone with a Firestar II ever use the rear jump seat? If so, do you limit the passenger to a small child? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109665#109665


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    Time: 10:09:27 PM PST US
    From: "boyd" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: GPS and flying in the wind
    I have a Lowrance 2000c that I am extremely happy with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have used the garmin 196 for a couple years,,,, when I bought it I also bought the city select map source... which gives turn by turn directions,,,, on a trip through the NW we went through Portland freeway system,,,, after navigating the maze, my wife turned to me and said "that thing just paid for itself." And it is even better when in the plane. Boyd Do not archive.


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    Time: 10:12:52 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it?
    Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar II - 2nd seat - anyone ever use it? > > Does anyone with a Firestar II ever use the rear jump seat? If so, do you > limit the passenger to a small child? > Hi, I have carried up to 180 lbs in the jump seat. It is not comfortable, but you can do it. The plane then handles a lot like a 150 at that weight. For my plane 140 lbs is no big deal, as far as handling, but the comfort of the passenger is pretty marginal. Right Lar? Larry, Oregon. do not archive


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    Time: 10:18:30 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: GPS and new technologies
    I guess the original > question basically came down to "is there any reason to spend extra money > for a radio with VOR in the era of GPS?" > > -Dana > do not archive > I guess if you are going to be doing a lot of xcountries to different airports it might be handy for a last ditch back up. I had the same choice when I bought my ICOM and elected to do without. I have not ever been sorry. For the type of flying I do most of the time it would be worthless. Perhaps if I had something that went a lot faster than my Kolb it might have some value. The flight instructor that I had when I was flying a 150 didn't even bother to teach it any more. I think that I will stick with sectionals and my 196. Larry, Oregon




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