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1. 02:02 AM - Re: MkIIIC cg range? (planecrazzzy)
2. 02:59 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (pat ladd)
3. 05:00 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Larry Bourne)
4. 05:41 AM - FireFly single struts (Don G)
5. 06:02 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Larry Cottrell)
6. 06:13 AM - Re: Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point (planecrazzzy)
7. 06:40 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Robert Laird)
8. 07:11 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Bob Dalton)
9. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point (Larry Bourne)
10. 07:21 AM - Re: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS (jimhefner)
11. 07:23 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Larry Bourne)
12. 07:54 AM - Re: Sport pilot license (jimhefner)
13. 08:11 AM - GPS failure (Mike Welch)
14. 08:25 AM - Re: FireFly single struts (herbgh@juno.com)
15. 08:37 AM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
16. 09:38 AM - First flight (Rick Pearce)
17. 10:05 AM - Re: GPS failure (Mike Welch)
18. 10:31 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Chuck Stonex)
19. 10:45 AM - Re: Drinks at MV (Larry Bourne)
20. 10:59 AM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
21. 01:22 PM - Re: GPS failure (Mike Welch)
22. 01:32 PM - Re: GPS failure (Richard Pike)
23. 01:39 PM - Re: GPS failure (Jack B. Hart)
24. 01:46 PM - Re: GPS failure (Bob Noyer)
25. 01:54 PM - w&b mkIII c (boyd)
26. 02:36 PM - Re: Ms Dixie update (Paul Petty)
27. 02:40 PM - Re: GPS failure (russ kinne)
28. 03:06 PM - Re: First flight (Paul Petty)
29. 03:35 PM - Re: GPS failure (possums)
30. 04:00 PM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
31. 04:01 PM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
32. 04:05 PM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
33. 04:08 PM - Re: First flight (Larry Bourne)
34. 04:08 PM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
35. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Ms Dixie update (possums)
36. 04:39 PM - Re: GPS failure (John Hauck)
37. 05:01 PM - Re: GPS failure (possums)
38. 05:40 PM - Re: GPS failure (Russ Kinne)
39. 06:55 PM - We Leave for MV tomorrow - via Texas (TheWanderingWench)
40. 08:09 PM - Re: GPS failure (Charlie England)
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| Subject: | Re: MkIIIC cg range? |
Hey Guys,
What's the "Angle of Attack" to go with that CG range ?
The range doesn't do you much good unless it's being checked at AOA...
( I think mines different - Firestar II )
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
PS With 16 lbs in the nose to keep my CG in the Front 51% of
the CG range.
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
<<I am sure there is some ritual regarding the actual process
involved.>.
There certainly is. Grasping the body of the liquor container firmly in
the left hand grip the small ring which you will find at top and pull
sharply. This simple movement will provide access to the amber liquid
concealed within. Hold the container above the head and turn your face
upwards. Open your mouth and invert the container and if you have
positioned everything correctly gravity will take over and transfer the
liquid painlessly into your throat.
<< I would be glad, on behalf of the few reprobates that still drink,
to have you show us "heathens" the proper way to celebrate having lived
through another glorious day of "Kolbing".>>
To my sorrow my days of demonstrating how to drink 8 or 10 pints of beer
are over. A couple is my usual limit now..
<< I might even tell a few of my soon to be world famous stories.>> Now
to THAT, I look forward.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
Amazing ! ! ! Must be a Brit thing. D'you guys ever hear of such a thing
?? I'm sure I've heard of a similar ritual in Australia, and maybe Canada,
too. Wonder what happened here ?? The stories ?? I'm sure you'll meet
your match over a few brewskies in the evenings.
I've got a feeling there's gonna be a heck of a party at MV
this year..........:-) Lar. Do not
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On 4/29/07, pat ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> <<I am sure there is some ritual regarding the actual process
> involved.>.
>
> There certainly is. Grasping the body of the liquor container firmly in
> the left hand grip the small ring which you will find at top and pull
> sharply. This simple movement will provide access to the amber liquid
> concealed within. Hold the container above the head and turn your face
> upwards. Open your mouth and invert the container and if you have positioned
> everything correctly gravity will take over and transfer the liquid
> painlessly into your throat.
>
> << I would be glad, on behalf of the few reprobates that still drink, to
> have you show us "heathens" the proper way to celebrate having lived
> through another glorious day of "Kolbing".>>
>
> To my sorrow my days of demonstrating how to drink 8 or 10 pints of beer
> are over. A couple is my usual limit now..
>
> << I might even tell a few of my soon to be world famous stories.>> Now
> to THAT, I look forward.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
> do not archive
>
> *
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> *
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| Subject: | FireFly single struts |
Herb,
I went to the hangar yestarday, and measured those struts.
They are :
Major= 2 5/8 x minor 1 1/8 rough measure.
After looking at the Wicks cat...I think they are part number SL 26 11-4
.049 wall
As I remember, 1 inch square tubing fit inside nicely.
Don
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
Arty made it to Grants Pass yesterday at about 4 PM and is due to
depart for my strip in the next few minutes. The winds are a bit cranky
and there is fog on their way. Once they get over the Cascades the winds
are headed this way, but will be a bit brisk. If every thing goes well,
we will head out of here tomorrow morning and eventually see all of you
at MV.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point |
It wouldn't hurt to "touch-up" the paint.....an epoxy would probly hold up the
best without having to put it on too thick....
However , What I saw in your picture of your rudder.....
Tailwheel steering control arm has a "Cold Lap" weld....
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See the "Line" of rust at the bottom of the weld.....With out a pre heat, Short
welds don't have the time to heat up the metals properly....
UNLESS you have the welder turned up for short welds......( which would be too
hot for longer passes..... ( also, mill scale doesn't help things )
I spent 40 hours going over my frame....Fixing Cold Lap welds....Grinding them
out and re welding....
Hey Big Lar....Didn't you get Rust running down your Powder Coating
on yer Cage from Cold Lap Welds....?
And once a weld has an opening like that....Flexing will only make it travel
further....
This part doesn't look critical....But look for the same signs in tubing
that might be keepin yer butt in the Sky.....
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
On 4/29/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
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> Amazing ! ! ! Must be a Brit thing. D'you guys ever hear of such a thing
> ?? I'm sure I've heard of a similar ritual in Australia, and maybe Canada,
> too.
>
Down here in Texas, it's a lot simpler than what the Brits do... we have one
step: "Lip lock on a longneck." ;-)
-- Robert
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Larry, Arty
Have a great trip and take allot of videos and pictures along the way, the
weather is beautiful here in central CA right now.
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Cottrell
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Drinks at MV
Arty made it to Grants Pass yesterday at about 4 PM and is due to depart
for my strip in the next few minutes. The winds are a bit cranky and there
is fog on their way. Once they get over the Cascades the winds are headed
this way, but will be a bit brisk. If every thing goes well, we will head
out of here tomorrow morning and eventually see all of you at MV.
Larry,Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Rust in the scratches on Rudder and Wing attach point |
I don't believe the rust is from cold lap welds......more likely from a poor
powder coating job. That said, the welds are fairly rough and lumpy, with
quite a bit of spatter that wasn't cleaned off, so I'll take a closer look
at them. I'm very aware of "cold solder" joints, but never have heard of
"cold lap" welds, so it looks like ya learn something new every day.
Thanks Lar.
On 4/29/07, planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> It wouldn't hurt to "touch-up" the paint.....an epoxy would probly hold up
> the best without having to put it on too thick....
>
> However , What I saw in your picture of your rudder.....
> Tailwheel steering control arm has a "Cold Lap" weld....
>
> .
> .
> .
> See the "Line" of rust at the bottom of the weld.....With out a pre heat,
> Short welds don't have the time to heat up the metals properly....
> UNLESS you have the welder turned up for short welds......( which would be
> too hot for longer passes..... ( also, mill scale doesn't help things )
>
> I spent 40 hours going over my frame....Fixing Cold Lap
> welds....Grinding them out and re welding....
>
> Hey Big Lar....Didn't you get Rust running down your Powder Coating
> on yer Cage from Cold Lap Welds....?
>
>
> And once a weld has an opening like that....Flexing will only make it
> travel
> further....
>
> This part doesn't look critical....But look for the same signs in
> tubing that might be keepin yer butt in the Sky.....
>
> Gotta Fly...
> Mike & "Jaz" in MN
>
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld radio, and VOR vs GPS |
I believe the VOR network will be around a long time.... longer than me. There
are too many old GA airplanes out there for them to go away. GPS is great (far
superior) but to purchase a panel mount certified GPS system for a 60's vintage
plane would be prohibitive to most people flying these old planes.... like
me! I carry my trusty old GPSIII Pilot on the dash. It is great for reference
to airspace boundaries, ground speed, approx altitude and a ton of other good
things to know. It gives similar nav tracking info to the VOR, but gives
it directly to any defined point, including user defined points. VOR can't come
close to that and triangulation from sectionals while flying solo is not easy.
For me, now that I'm finished with training, the VOR will be my backup system.
For my flight to MV I plan to use both systems, one to cross check against
the other. I also have several waypoints defined for pilotage and dead reckoning
along the way. My GPSIII is plugged into a cigarette lighter socket in
the dash, so battery failure is not a concern, but the unit can fail like any
electrical device, so having multiple backup's a smart plan for any pilot in
any kind of plane.
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Jim Hefner
Kolbless in Tucson :(
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
What an adventure. I'm sure envious, Larry. Good Luck ! ! !
Long Neck. Long Neck ?? Ain't that one a them ladies in Bali or Cambodia
or somesuch that wear them stacks of rings around their necks ??.....or we
talkin' somethin' different here ?? Lar. Do
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On 4/29/07, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
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>
> On 4/29/07, Larry Bourne <biglar@gogittum.com> wrote:
> >
> > Amazing ! ! ! Must be a Brit thing. D'you guys ever hear of such a
> > thing ?? I'm sure I've heard of a similar ritual in Australia, and maybe
> > Canada, too.
> >
>
>
> Down here in Texas, it's a lot simpler than what the Brits do... we have
> one step: "Lip lock on a longneck." ;-)
>
>
> -- Robert
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sport pilot license |
The biggest difference (and possibly a reason) in going for SP vs Private is in
the aeronautical experience requirements.... it's double for Private so it will
set you back more in plane rentals and dual stick time to get your Private.
SP requires 20hrs of logged flight, incl 15hrs of flight training and 5 hrs
of solo flight training. Private requires at least 40hrs total, with 20 hrs
or flight traing and 10 hrs of solo flight training. Private requires 3 hrs of
x/c flight training and more x/c flying, day and night, plus 3hrs training for
the practical, etc. I recently got my private and had logged nearly 80 hrs
when I finished it. My CFI told me the national avg is around 72 hrs, so you
can see the reqmts are very minimal and most folks end up taking a lot more.
I own my own plane and had free instruction so I was in no hurry and enjoyed
the whole experience. If I was having to pay $100 or more/hr for the plane rental
and more for instruction, I would have been in more of a hurry to get it
done sooner... :)
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Kolbless in Tucson :(
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Hi All,
On my previous oration about the vitues of VOR's and GPS's, I mentioned I
had a GPS failure that "skeered" me a little.
To clarify things, it wasn't an electrical problem or anything like that,
that caused the outage.
It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
While I was flying over the N California/Oregon moutains I came across
some significant turbulence, but coverage was restored when the air settled
down. I was on a long x/country flight and was at 8500' msl. I just kept
pointing at a snow capped peak, that was off in the distance (150 miles
away), that I was pointing at before I lost coverage. After a few minutes,
things went back to normal.
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| Subject: | Re: FireFly single struts |
Thanks Don
Skytec offers a 2.44 major and 1.00 minor in 6061 t6. also 3.13 by
1.25 in same alloy.. These are used on Kittens,N3 pups and the Carlson
line..
The large strut takes a one inch square fitment.. Herb
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:40:11 -0700 "Don G" <donghe@one-eleven.net>
writes:
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> Herb,
> I went to the hangar yestarday, and measured those struts.
> They are :
> Major= 2 5/8 x minor 1 1/8 rough measure.
>
> After looking at the Wicks cat...I think they are part number SL 26
> 11-4
>
> .049 wall
>
> As I remember, 1 inch square tubing fit inside nicely.
>
> Don
>
> --------
> Don G
> FireFly#098
>
> http://www.geocities.com/dagger369th/my_firefly.htm
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
| satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
Mike:
I've experienced a little turbulence over the years, flying with the
GPS, but never lost coverage because of turbulence. I believe as long
as the antenna can see the satellites, it will receive, no matter how
quickly the antenna is changing location.
However, there are certain areas in CONUS and Canada that are blanked
out to GPS, and the GPS will come up with "Coverage Lost". I would
never have figured this out had it not happened a few years ago when
my Kolb friends and I were flying to the Outter Banks, NC. An area SW
of Trenton, SC, is where I lost coverage. Took 30 minutes or an hour
to get it back. I had experienced similar loss of coverage in Canada,
so I figured it was my unit or antenna that was causing this loss.
When we made our next landing, John W indicated he had also lost
coverage in the same area. Chances of two GPS units losing coverage
in the same area at the same time, then recovering about the same time
are pretty slim.
BTW: Where was your GPS antenna mounted in/on the aircraft?
john h
mkIII
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Well I did it this morning committed aviation. Flew 55 min. Did real
good flew hands off at 5500rpm 65 mile per hour. Have to repitch the
prop (Power Fin). Had to back off full trottle on take off because the
EIS gave me a warning. Had to use some right aileron on the high speed
taxi's to keep that wing down. But as soon as I got in the air it
disapeared. Had a little cross wind to contend with. But it was from the
left. I'm now smoking my celbration stogy and drinking a cold one.:)
Hobbs is not working. Will defiantly have to get some sound
attenating head sets. Any one used one off the kits to convert a std.
head set to sound attenating? Could not hear the ground crew at higher
RPM's. Rick Pearce MK3C 912ULS
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John,
My favorite toy in the whole world, my Garmin 95XL was attached to my
yoke with the bracket, and the antenna was suction cupped at the center top
of the windshield.
If it wasn't turbulence that caused my outage, then that would be even
worse. It is the boonies where you would want the best protection, not
flying over fairly populated areas you can identify by looking them.
Makes my point even more. VOR's are still a good resourse for your
piloting skills. Mike Welch
>From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
>To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS failure
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:36:53 -0500
>
>
>
>| It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required
>| satelites if it is being shaken all over the place.
>
>
> | Mike Welch
>
>Mike:
>
>I've experienced a little turbulence over the years, flying with the
>GPS, but never lost coverage because of turbulence. I believe as long
>as the antenna can see the satellites, it will receive, no matter how
>quickly the antenna is changing location.
>
>However, there are certain areas in CONUS and Canada that are blanked
>out to GPS, and the GPS will come up with "Coverage Lost". I would
>never have figured this out had it not happened a few years ago when
>my Kolb friends and I were flying to the Outter Banks, NC. An area SW
>of Trenton, SC, is where I lost coverage. Took 30 minutes or an hour
>to get it back. I had experienced similar loss of coverage in Canada,
>so I figured it was my unit or antenna that was causing this loss.
>When we made our next landing, John W indicated he had also lost
>coverage in the same area. Chances of two GPS units losing coverage
>in the same area at the same time, then recovering about the same time
>are pretty slim.
>
>BTW: Where was your GPS antenna mounted in/on the aircraft?
>
>john h
>mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
In other words, yuour planning on drinking a few and making up TRUE stories
as you go along?
Just checking.
<<I am sure there is some ritual regarding the actual process involved.>.
There certainly is. Grasping the body of the liquor container firmly in the
left hand grip the small ring which you will find at top and pull sharply.
This simple movement will provide access to the amber liquid concealed
within. Hold the container above the head and turn your face upwards. Open
your mouth and invert the container and if you have positioned everything
correctly gravity will take over and transfer the liquid painlessly into
your throat.
<< I would be glad, on behalf of the few reprobates that still drink, to
have you show us "heathens" the proper way to celebrate having lived
through another glorious day of "Kolbing".>>
To my sorrow my days of demonstrating how to drink 8 or 10 pints of beer are
over. A couple is my usual limit now..
<< I might even tell a few of my soon to be world famous stories.>> Now to
THAT, I look forward.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Drinks at MV |
I know you're not referring to Truthful Lar, 'cause I don't drink, but your
phrasing is very apt. Gotta love it.
Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/29/07, Chuck Stonex <cstonex@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
> In other words, yuour planning on drinking a few and making up TRUE
> stories
> as you go along?
> Just checking.
>
>
> <<I am sure there is some ritual regarding the actual process involved.>.
>
> There certainly is. Grasping the body of the liquor container firmly in
> the
> left hand grip the small ring which you will find at top and pull sharply.
> This simple movement will provide access to the amber liquid concealed
> within. Hold the container above the head and turn your face upwards. Open
> your mouth and invert the container and if you have positioned everything
> correctly gravity will take over and transfer the liquid painlessly into
> your throat.
>
> << I would be glad, on behalf of the few reprobates that still drink, to
> have you show us "heathens" the proper way to celebrate having lived
> through another glorious day of "Kolbing".>>
>
> To my sorrow my days of demonstrating how to drink 8 or 10 pints of beer
> are
> over. A couple is my usual limit now..
>
> << I might even tell a few of my soon to be world famous stories.>> Now
> to
> THAT, I look forward.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
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your
| piloting skills. Mike Welch
Mike:
I would rather rely on mag compass and sectional as backup to the GPS.
Doesn't matter whether you are over the woods or not. Out in the
boodocks there are usually rather prominent terrain features that are
easily identifiable, especially Northern California.
john h
mkIII
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John and others,
I greatly agree with you regarding a sectional and compass (and watch).
These items should be the first tools of navigation a good pilot should
reach for.
I guess the main point is; there are several methods of navigating today
and a good pilot would never want to rely on only one.
The early days of mail service had the airmail pilot using only a
compass, watch and chart. They were able to navigate beyond our
imigination, in conditions that would seem impossible. And they did all
this long before the days of radar, VOR's, GPS's and a cell phone in every
pocket! They guys are the early heros of our hobby, and oh, how I would
love to sit and listen to some of their "war stories"
We are pilots, guys. We come from good stock!! Mike
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About 16 miles southwest of here is Fodderstack Mountain. Atop the mountain
is the remains of a Lighted Airways beacon. It dates back to the days when
beacons were placed along mail routes, and the mail pilots flew at night
from one beacon to the next. They would marvel at our GPS units.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Welch" <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: GPS failure
>
>
> John and others,
>
> I greatly agree with you regarding a sectional and compass (and watch).
> These items should be the first tools of navigation a good pilot should
> reach for.
> I guess the main point is; there are several methods of navigating today
> and a good pilot would never want to rely on only one.
> The early days of mail service had the airmail pilot using only a
> compass, watch and chart. They were able to navigate beyond our
> imigination, in conditions that would seem impossible. And they did all
> this long before the days of radar, VOR's, GPS's and a cell phone in every
> pocket! They guys are the early heros of our hobby, and oh, how I would
> love to sit and listen to some of their "war stories"
> We are pilots, guys. We come from good stock!! Mike
>
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Kolbers,
When China blew up one of their satellites during target practice, it put
out a lot of high speed space junk. What if it knocks out a couple of gps
satellites? How many gps satellites have to be destroyed to bring down the
system?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Back to Air Mail days; saucer of coffee for Art. Hoz. plus the
famous Cat and Duck Blind Flying Equipment.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/
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I have been visiting with Robert Laird off list and gave him the information
off my set of plans.
Twinstar Mark III / copy right jan 1990 / Rev, 3-96
My plans say 16 1/2 to 23.1 inches from the leading edge of the wing.
Those numbers work out to 25 to 35 % of wing cord....
Note when weighing the plane to do the W&B the bottom of the wing ribs
should be pitched up at a 9 deg angle...
Went into much more detail off list and offered the W&B spread sheet to
him... and would again extend that offer to anyone wanting it,
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie update |
One wing down one to go. 180 rivets to go an 40 squares of vinyl!
http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=6
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109888#109888
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Jack
I've been told there are 27 GPS satellites in orbit, 24 in use at any
one time . Possibly someone else has more definitive info here. Each
one has FOUR atomic clocks in it -- hence they cost so many billions
of $$. We have the military to thank. GA user-fees would be a long
time coming up with that much cash!
I doubt the Chinese shrapnel came anywhere near the GPS sat's.
Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
heavy snow either.
Russ Kinne
On Apr 29, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
> <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
>
> Kolbers,
>
> When China blew up one of their satellites during target practice,
> it put
> out a lot of high speed space junk. What if it knocks out a couple
> of gps
> satellites? How many gps satellites have to be destroyed to bring
> down the
> system?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
way to go rick!
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Paul Petty
Kolbra #12
Ms Dixie
Final assembly!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109891#109891
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At 11:10 AM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> On my previous oration about the vitues of VOR's and GPS's, I
> mentioned I had a GPS failure that "skeered" me a little.
My class was the first allowed to use "a calculator" at Ga. Tech.
The old guys would tell us to keep our slide rules handy just in
case that new finagled contraption quite on us.
So ....glad I didn't have to use a slide rule.
I just keep an extra (cheap) GPS for backup
by the time I could figure the VOR I was already
in the next county anyway.
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| compass, watch and chart. They were able to navigate beyond our
| imigination, in conditions that would seem impossible.
Mike
Mike:
There are a couple Army helicopter pilots on the Kolb List that
learned to navigate in the air, as late as 1968, with compass, map,
and time. In fact, that was our primary means of nav in VN in 1969
and 70. From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
I still flew pilotage and ded reckoning until the summer of 1993, when
I purchased my first GPS.
john h
mkIII
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mountain
| is the remains of a Lighted Airways beacon. | Richard Pike
Richard:
Had the same system in place between Maxwell AFB, AL, and Mobile, so
the student pilots could find their way home, prior to and during
WWII.
john h
mkIII
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| Incidentally, I knew that GPS's won't "see" through heavy green
| leaves -- but I found out to my dismay that they won't penetrate
| heavy snow either.
| Russ Kinne
Russ:
Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
coverage because of the trees.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Congratulations, Rick. It's a big day for you, and inspiration for me to
get my buns in gear and back to work on mine.
Lar. Do not Archive.
On 4/28/07, Rick Pearce <rap@isp.com> wrote:
>
> Well I did it this morning committed aviation. Flew 55 min. Did real
> good flew hands off at 5500rpm 65 mile per hour. Have to repitch the prop
> (Power Fin). Had to back off full trottle on take off because the EIS gave
> me a warning. Had to use some right aileron on the high speed taxi's to keep
> that wing down. But as soon as I got in the air it disapeared. Had a little
> cross wind to contend with. But it was from the left. I'm now smoking my
> celbration stogy and drinking a cold one.:)
> Hobbs is not working. Will defiantly have to get some sound
> attenating head sets. Any one used one off the kits to convert a std. head
> set to sound attenating? Could not hear the ground crew at higher RPM's.
> Rick Pearce MK3C 912ULS
>
> *
>
> *
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There are a couple Army helicopter pilots on the Kolb List that
learned to navigate in the air, as late as 1968, with compass, map,
and time. In fact, that was our primary means of nav in VN in 1969
and 70.
From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
The previous sentence should have included:
" From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters."
20,000 xin loi's,
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Ms Dixie update |
At 05:36 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
>
>One wing down one to go. 180 rivets to go an 40 squares of vinyl!
>
>http://groups.msn.com/AerialWorld/kolbra012.msnw?Page=6
>
>do not archive
>
>--------
>Paul Petty
Dang ...makes me want to wash my plane.
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| in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
|
Hi Gang:
The third try is going to be a charm. Sentence, above, should have
included "pilotage and DED reckoning."
100,000 xin loi's,
john h
mkIII
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At 07:39 PM 4/29/2007, you wrote:
>
> | From 1973 until my last flight in 1976, I flew for minimums
>| in UH-1, OH-58 types of helicopters.
>|Hi Gang:
>The third try is going to be a charm. Sentence, above, should have
>included "pilotage and DED reckoning."
>100,000 xin loi's,
>john h
Braggin rights.
I was tryin to keep my arse in college an otta nam.
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John
Glad your Etrex worked OK in the kitchen -- but watch out for those
Alabama blizzards!
On Apr 29, 2007, at 7:04 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> .
>
>
> Russ:
>
> Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
> Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
> coverage because of the trees.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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| Subject: | We Leave for MV tomorrow - via Texas |
I landed at Larry Cottrell's this afternoon, after a flight that included almost
an hour of 40-43 mph tail winds. Very bouncy at times - and everytime I glanced
at my GPS I was sure it was reading speed over the ground incorrectly. Confirmation
with two flying buddies assured me it was reading right.
I left northwestern Oregon on Saturday and had a scud-running flight most of
the day. Overnighted at Grants Pass with Kolber Roger Hankins and his wife Dayna.This
morning we met Thundergull pilot Don Elliot and were wheels off at 6:25
a.m.;en route at Mucky Flats met up with Joe Cleland, flying an Aeronca. First
stop was an alfalfa field in Bonanza, Oregon where Roger was raised. Absolutely
gorgeous cloud formations and flying at 8000' past Mt. McLaughlin, Lake
of the Woods, Fish Lake and flying across Upper Klamath Lake into eastern Oregon
was truly spectacular. Looking down at nothing but tall timber and lakes
made me very glad to hear my engine purring reassuringly.
All was nice and calm and then the wind picked up. We were getting bounced around,
no matter what altitude we were flying. Beautiful and desolate high desert
- canyons, sagebrush, ravines. You've seen Larry's pics of this part of
the country. At one point we saw huge dust storms right where we were heading.
Happily, they were veering off as we got near, and we were able to pass by without
difficulty.
Landing at Larry's was a challenge - luckily the winds dropped to 12 mph and
we came in on his short runway (600') right into the wind.
We leave early tomorrow - Roger and Joe will head back to their home hangars
and Larry and I will begin our flight to MV via San Antonio, with Larry's wife
Karen driving.
So far I've traveled 10 hours and covered 598 miles.
Larry and I will report in as we get access to a computer.
Arty Trost
Maxair Drifter
Sandy, Oregon
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John Hauck wrote:
>
>
> .
>
>
> Russ:
>
> Depends on the system. Some will and some won't. We had a cheap
> Etrex localize inside the kitchen. Outside, my 196 will barely obtain
> coverage because of the trees.
>
> john h
> mkIII
And my neighbor's GRT EFIS will lock on inside his build-shop with a
shingle roof & only a couple of very small windows.
Charlie
(I was surprised, too.)
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