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Wed 05/02/07


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     1. 04:15 AM - Trailer venting (Dana Hague)
     2. 05:07 AM - MV (Craig Nelson)
     3. 05:56 AM - Re: Trailer venting (George Alexander)
     4. 06:46 AM - Re: Firefly Landing speed (Beauford T)
     5. 09:45 AM - Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start (Blumax008@aol.com)
     6. 11:46 AM - Where are Larry and Arty (Larry Cottrell)
     7. 11:53 AM - Update #2 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas (TheWanderingWench)
     8. 02:12 PM - Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start (John H Murphy)
     9. 02:58 PM - floats (robert bean)
    10. 03:53 PM - Re: floats (Dana Hague)
    11. 04:20 PM - Re: MV (Dave Rains)
    12. 05:08 PM - Trailer vents (Steven Green)
    13. 06:27 PM - Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start (planecrazzzy)
    14. 06:37 PM - Check out some boring video (WillUribe@aol.com)
    15. 07:06 PM - Re: michigan kolb pilots  (Malcolmbru@aol.com)
    16. 07:20 PM - Re: Check out some boring video (possums)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:15:51 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Trailer venting
    Guys, I'm almost finished [re]building the enclosed trailer for my Ultrastar. It's a bit... ah... different (pix to follow). What I was wondering is what to do about venting? Something to let heat and mosture out, without letting rain in. If it would never be on the road some simple louvered vents would be fine, but I'm concerned wind would blow water in them if driving in the rain. Mainly I'm concerned about keeping it from getting too hot inside, since I'll probably be storing the plane in the trailer. I was thinking maybe louvered vents (house gable vents) in the rear upper doors to let air out. but something down low in the front to let air (but not water) in is also necessary. -Dana -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 05:07:14 AM PST US
    Subject: MV
    From: "Craig Nelson" <Craig.Nelson@heraeus.com>
    Hay all I have bad news I have just been informed I will be at a meeting our company is making a launch of a new product I have been involved in developing. It looked as though I could leave early but now must attend No milow uncle craig no BYOB breakfast!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I was planning on flying Un happy uncle craig Do not archive _________________________________________________________________________ _____________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination, or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer.


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    Time: 05:56:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailer venting
    From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
    Dana et al: To deal with venting, used sofit vents (about 3" X 10") at the top, front and rear on the sides. Used round vents (about 1 1/2") at the floor. These items have fixed louvers and would block any wind blown rain unless it was being blown at an up angle. All have window screen material to keep the critters out. In the round ones at the bottom, if you want a little more assurance, cram a piece of plastic scrub pad (like steel wool, but made of plastic) into the hole. Don't use steel wool. Will rust away in a high moisture environment. Although not taken to show the vents, there are a few pics from the "Trailering a Kolb" section of my web site that show their placement. http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target1.html http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target2.html http://gtalexander.home.att.net/target11.html d-m-hague(at)comcast.net wrote: > Guys, > > I'm almost finished [re]building the enclosed trailer for my > Ultrastar. > > > > I was thinking maybe louvered vents (house gable vents) in the rear upper > doors to let air out. but something down low in the front to let air (but > not water) in is also necessary. > > -Dana > -------- George Alexander http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110399#110399


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    Time: 06:46:28 AM PST US
    From: "Beauford T" <beauford@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firefly Landing speed
    Ed: Since you are asking, mine is propped at 6500 level WOT... egt's show 1080 to 1100 at cruise... 1180 to 1200 at closed throttle glide. Since mine was converted to the green-dot pistons over at the Lockwood Castle, the head temps hang around 370 to 375 at cruise.... that's a 5900 cruise... Mine indicates about the same VSO airspeed as yours...38, 39 or so... but with no static side hookup ...??? who really knows? I weigh 208 and I think around 40 is where it actually pays off (vortex generators and all) with my flabby fanny in the front end... I climb it at 60, glide it at 60, cruise it at 65 indicated. Based on your numbers, I agree with the others that you could likely stand to take a little pitch out of your prop... Worth what ye paid fer it... Beauford FF076 Brandon, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: DAquaNut@aol.com To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firefly Landing speed Group, I have installed a winter ASI as suggested by John H. and it appears to be accurate. It seems my Firefly settles on the runway at 40 indicated with no flaps. Does that sound right? Also my 447 is running with Egt's at 950* and cht's at 375*-400 * at 5700-5800 rpms. Does that sound good or do I need to have higher egts in order to reduce carbon? Ed Diebel FF# 62 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 09:45:04 AM PST US
    From: Blumax008@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start
    You could put an E drive on it which has the starter installed with (beside) the gearbox. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 11:46:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Where are Larry and Arty
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Hi gang, Well so far it has been fun. Unfortunately the weather at the destinations that we want to go to is worse that where we are. So we are just holing up and waiting for the storms to pass on by. It is really tough, we have a Best Western with full breakfast, pool, Hot tub, a safe place to tie up our planes. I am not sure how I will cope. We spent our first night camped in an old WWII hanger with a Raven and a few pack rats. It was a great place to camp. The people at the FBO were really nice, even to leaving the FBO unlocked so we could use the bathroom. My EGT's had been a bit low, so I tried to change my needle settings in the dark, using the "Hellen Keller method", which is very fitting considering Arty's signature. The next morning I redid them so that I could get enough power to take off. We then landed at Goldfield at a closed airport. (Sage growing up through the Runway)It was like being home to me. Then we continued on into Paharump. Every thing was fine, and we only had about a 10 MPH headwind, but when we came down out of the mountains into paharump, Nev. We had had wind that had all the wrinkles ironed out of the sock. I circled around while Arty landed, then pulled off the runway because she didn't know where I was. (I was behind and above her, her radio had been shaken loose from the attachment and she was too busy to retreive it) So she stayed where she was, I intended to land past her, but saw the wife parked at the end of the runway where I was to land and decided to cut as much of the taxi off as I could. I came in with about 5000 rpm's to maintain 60 mph and was all over the runway when I hit the pavement ground effects. The old stick was going around like a butter churn and I was up,down, sideways and all over for a while until the wind stabilized. (The wife wouldn't watch) I looked at the airspeed once and verified that I was holding 60, but on the outside I could have run faster than I was going. I am happy to report that it was a very light full stall landing.( nobody could see me so I feel safe saying that.) We will stay here until the weather quits some of its stuff. The part that I worry about is not flying in it, it is the tie down for the planes that gives me pause. A great couple supplied us with a safe place to park. They tracked us down at the motel to tell us to bring our planes to their place as they were concerned that someone would vandalize our planes where they were. It helps having Arty along, she can sweet talk any one out of all their possessions if necessary. I am along for the grunt work. Larry, Oregon do not archive


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    Time: 11:53:44 AM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Update #2 2007 Ultralight Flight to MV via Texas
    Hi folks, It's Wednesday morning, and we're sitting in the computer room of Pahrump, NV library. Monday morning we left Larry Cottrell's airstrip in Rome, OR. It was a gorgeous clear morning. Joe Kleeman and Roger Hankins, who had flown to the Cottrells with me, took off first, heading back to their respective home airports. Larry and I took off to the south, and had an absolutely gorgeous flight over astounding desert. (I don't have a way to send photos while we're on this trip, so will have to send a bunch when I get home. We flew straight from the Cottrells to Battle Mountain, NV - a 2.5 hour flight. Slight tailwinds and lovely flying. Larry and I cruise at just about the same speed - between 55 and 60 mph, which makes for very easy flying together. We refueled at Battle Mountain and then followed the highway south to Tonopah. We cut a lot of corners, but the highway goes through a wide valley, so we were never more than 5 miles from the highway. We had a little trouble finding Austin, NV (one of our waypoints) and finally found it tucked up high in the hills. We were usually flying at 6500-8000' and both of us found that our EGTs were reading low - mine at 1025 and Larry's at less than 1000. We landed at Tonopah, NV at 1:30 p.m. The last 40 minutes had been pretty rough flying - lots of turbulence and getting bounced around. It was a relief to set foot in the FBO and sink into a chair. Karen drove up about 20 minutes later. She'd had a lot of trouble finding the airport - the highway markings were the pits. We were really pleased to have reached Tonopah the first day out - it's about 400 miles from our starting point. We could have gone on later in the afternoon when the winds died down, but we were offered a large military wood WWII hangar to camp in, and the offer was too good to refuse. Wait til you see the pics of the Subaru, loaded down with camping gear, 8 5-gallon gas tanks, and 3 dogs! We set up our campsite inside the hangar - went to town for food, and had a barbeque of steak and salad inside the hangar. It was great! Tuesday morning was one of those glorious desert sunrises and we were off the ground at 6:40 a.m. Our first waypoint was Goldfield - a closed runway which the flight guide says has bushes and tumbleweeds growing up in the runway itself. Since it was only 34 miles from Tonopah, we hadn't planned on stopping, but Larry was getting concerned about his low EGTs, and wanted to land there so he could reset his needle jets. The runway is fine for ultralights - (whoops - I need to remember that I'm now officially flying an E-LSA!) - the bushes/brush are growing to the sides and the center is fine. It's an uphill runway that ends in the "town" - a ramshackle looking place. We landed without difficulty, Larry changed out his needle jets, and we took off again. Our flight continued much as before - flying at 6500-8000', slight headwinds that sometimes became slight tailwinds. Very calm air - I was able to take lots of pictures. We passed a huge airstrip at Beatty, NV - absolutely immense from the air, yet out in the middle of nowhere. No hangars, no planes tied down. We were still following Hwy. 95 south through Nevada, and all our waypoints showed up as planned. We were going to stop at Calvada Meadows in the Pahrump Valley (still Nevada) and continue on, but as we flew over a low range of jaggedey mountains into the Pahrump Valley, our luck turned and turbulence caught up with us. I was deep into an "arm-flinging" flight - my euphamism for the worst type of turbulence. Since I fly an open cockpit Drifter - nothing to grab onto when I start getting bounced around - when it's REALLY bouncy I throw out my left arm - because if I inadvertently grab onto the throttle for stability, I'm likely to break it off! (It's got a really long arm.) I also image that the left arm flailing in the wind does a little to stabilize the plane. :>) It was so bumpy that my radio, which is fastened to the center console with velcro, bounced off and dangled in the bottom of the plane. It was way too bumpy to try and retrieve it, so I just hoped that Larry would be extra careful watching out for me as we came into land. We were going to land on 33, but the wind shifted and as I lined up for final I saw the sock going in the opposite direction, so I went around and came in on 15. Not the best landing I've ever done, but not the worst either. Trying to turn around to back-taxi was impossible, so I had to turn it off, and pick up the tail to get it around. Karen was waiting, and we muscled the planes to a tie down spot and tied them down REALLY well. Then we drove to a motorcycle dealership to try and get 152 main jets, to further lean out our engines. A fellow who was at the store (which didn't have any) told us about someone at the airpark who is "Mr. Ultralight". To make a long story shorter, he wasn't home, we talked to him and then went to a motel. Even though it was only11:00 a.m. and we'd only covered 150 miles, there was no question that we were going to be able to continue on in this wind. (I had called for a weather briefing and the winds were supposed to increase in the afternoon.) That evening, about 45 minutes before sunset, I was re-checking our next day's route and realized that I didn't have a Las Vegas Terminal Area chart. So I called back "Mr. Ultralight" and he said he'd been trying to find us - where we had left our planes was a terrible spot - too isolated - and he wanted us to bring them over to his hangar and tie them down. We had taken everything out of the planes that had any value...but he said that if we left them there overnight, the engines would be gone in the morning! Wow - we'd never thought of that!! So we jumped into the car, drove to the airport, and taxied to his hangar. Winds were pretty high, and we were taxiing down-wind - an interesting endeavor in a tail-dragger. We tied down just as it was getting full-dark, with a huge golden moon rising over the mountains. The weather report was discouraging at 5:00 a.m. today - winds aloft 210 @ 18 and going up to 23 along our route. Almost a direct headwind, and even with my 16 gallons aboard, we'd have difficulty getting very far. We decided to stay at the wonderful motel with pool, huge continental breakfast, and access to the library internet. Hopefully tomorrow will be better. I'll write again when I have a chance. Arty www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 02:12:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start
    From: "John H Murphy" <jhm9812@yahoo.com>
    I've had several folks tell me the GPL starter is the way to go. It has the starter sitting sideways instead of straight back like my Rotax starter. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110496#110496


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    Time: 02:58:11 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: floats
    You leegal eegles out there; Looking at the TNK blurb about the puddle jumper floats..... What's the deal regarding ELSA ? I seem to remember that amphibious floats ran into a problem flying under light sport rules. I'm not much of a swimmer but I sure float good :) The new york finger lakes are minutes away and I remember lots of good times jumping off a poontoon boat and/or tiny sailboat and playing aqueous homo sapiens in the middle of summer. Doing the same off my Kolb would be a fantasy come true. BB do not archive


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    Time: 03:53:43 PM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: floats
    At 05:55 PM 5/2/2007, robert bean wrote: > >You leegal eegles out there; Looking at the TNK blurb about the >puddle jumper floats..... What's the deal regarding ELSA ? >I seem to remember that amphibious floats ran into a problem flying >under light sport... I believe the feds have amended the rule to allow "repositionable" landing gear on amphibious LSA. -Dana -- -- My software never has bugs. It just develops random features.


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    Time: 04:20:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: MV
    From: "Dave Rains" <RangeFlyer72@yahoo.com>
    Sad news indeed! Was looking forward to seeing you again. Had a great flight in the mighty Skylark last year, recall? Skeeter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110519#110519


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    Time: 05:08:35 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Green" <Kolbdriver@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Trailer vents
    Here is a link to Wells Cargo, look at exterior options. I bought the side mount flow through vents for my trailer. Mounted one high on the front left side of the trailer and the other on the lower right rear. Steven http://www.wellscargo.com/wells/model.html?model=5


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    Time: 06:27:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firestar II - installation of electric start
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    I have the GPL starter....Works great...I like it....But it adds about 30 -35 lbs to yer plane ...Starter / housing/wiring/Battery/ignition switch In the attached picture....you can see the starter & Housing Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN -------- . . . . . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110543#110543 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_ground_783.jpg


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    Time: 06:37:28 PM PST US
    From: WillUribe@aol.com
    Subject: Check out some boring video
    _Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 07:06:38 PM PST US
    From: Malcolmbru@aol.com
    Subject: Re: michigan kolb pilots
    midland Barstow mb3 is having a pancake breakfast and I will buy breakfast for any kolb pilot that fly's in. yes I will , just ask for Malcolm when you get there ,,malcolm ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 07:20:52 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Check out some boring video
    At 09:36 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote: ><http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797>Click >here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video > > How'd you get the vibration out ?




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