---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/03/07: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:36 AM - Re: floats (Robert Laird) 2. 07:37 AM - Re: Check out some boring video (WillUribe@aol.com) 3. 08:37 AM - Re: Check out some boring video (Jimmy) 4. 08:52 AM - Re: floats (N27SB@aol.com) 5. 09:13 AM - Re: GPS failure (JetPilot) 6. 09:17 AM - Re: MV (pat ladd) 7. 11:16 AM - Re: Check out some boring video (GeoR38@aol.com) 8. 12:33 PM - Re: Check out some boring video (Paul Petty) 9. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: Check out some boring video (WillUribe@aol.com) 10. 04:05 PM - Re: Check out some boring video (possums) 11. 06:57 PM - Re: Check out some boring video (Richard Pike) 12. 07:09 PM - BiAnnual Flight Review - POH (David Key) 13. 07:22 PM - Re: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH (david@davidlehman.net) 14. 08:01 PM - Re: Check out some boring video (possums) 15. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: GPS failure (N27SB@aol.com) 16. 08:19 PM - Re: Where are Larry and Arty (R. Hankins) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:07 AM PST US From: "Robert Laird" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats Here's the link to the FAA docket for that subject: http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.cfm?documentid=466165&docketid=27160 I think they are going to allow "retractable" gear, but you'll have to get signed off for using it. -- Robert On 5/2/07, Dana Hague wrote: > > > At 05:55 PM 5/2/2007, robert bean wrote: > > > >You leegal eegles out there; Looking at the TNK blurb about the > >puddle jumper floats..... What's the deal regarding ELSA ? > >I seem to remember that amphibious floats ran into a problem flying > >under light sport... > > I believe the feds have amended the rule to allow "repositionable" landing > gear on amphibious LSA. > > -Dana > > -- > -- > My software never has bugs. It just develops random features. > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:08 AM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video At 09:36 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote: _Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797) How'd you get the vibration out ? I did nothing, I guess it has more to do with the camcorder's image stabilizer function. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:01 AM PST US From: "Jimmy" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video Please post the web address. I have to copy and paste the address. My co mputer has stopped letting my click on a address. Anyone know how I can co rrect this=3F Jimmy Hankinson 912-863-7384 Firefly #035, (N6007L) JYL (Sylvania Ga.) Pegasus Field (Home) 2000 Feet X 100 Feet- Grass Rocky Ford, Georgia Do Not Archive -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:32 AM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: floats Robert, I believe you are right. As I understand the current rule, repositioning gear in the air is not allowed by a sport pilot. A Private Pilot is allowed to retract even in an LSA AC if he has his rating. However The document referenced is a proposal to amend the Sport Pilot Rule not a ruling. There is an exception to this in regard to the Mermaid and a few other LSA Amphib AC. These AC applied for and received waivers. I believe the individual Sport Pilot must still have an endorsement for that AC. Steve B Firefly on Floats ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:27 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: GPS failure From: "JetPilot" mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.co wrote: > Hi All, > > To clarify things, it wasn't an electrical problem or anything like that, > that caused the outage. > It was tubulence!! A GPS's antenna cannot "hone" in on the required > satelites if it is being shaken all over the place. > Mike Welch > > You could not be more wrong, GPS works just fine in turbulance. Not only will GPS work fine in turbulance you would experience in an aircraft, but I have used GPS in turbulance and vibration that would cause structural failure in full sized aircraft. If your GPS was cutting out in turblance, then you had a loose wire, bad power connection, or something wrong in your system. You made a very bad assumption with your situation... There is just no inherent problem with GPS and turbulance. As I said before, if you are the type of person that must have a backup to your GPS, get another GPS, its cheaper, works better, and is simpler and more reliable than a VOR setup. GPS non avialability because sattelites are not in position is so rare, its not even wroth thinking aobut unless you are using it for a very tight IFR approach. Even if you get less than optinum sattelites, its only for a couple minutes before another comes into view, the worst you get is degraded accuracy ( maybe 100 feet accuracy instead of 10 feet ). In other words, its NOT AN ISSUE. For those of you that are worried about the Chinese shooting down the sattelites, then you might as well worry about the sky falling, and never leave the comfort of your underground cave... Besides, if it ever gets to that, we all will have much bigger problems about than your GPS not working. ( A war on that scale would take out the VOR's, and probably your life also ). Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110641#110641 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:55 AM PST US From: "pat ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV no BYOB breakfast!!!!!!>> Hell Craig. I am wondering if it worth while coming to MV now. I was really looking forward to that breakfast. Hard luck indeed,, Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:16:09 AM PST US From: GeoR38@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video In a message dated 5/2/2007 10:21:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, possums@bellsouth.net writes: _Click here: Kolb FireStar II - Google Video_ (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797) How'd you get the vibration out ? Neeeeto!.............especially for a challenged pilot like myelf having not flown in my wonderful KX for 2 years since moving to Florida question.... i noticed there was a crosswind from your left, yet you used a right pattern..... also where was that....seemed a little like El PASO OR New Mexico. George Randolph ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:42 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check out some boring video From: "Paul Petty" Great stuff Will! Where is that airport and how long is that runway? do not archive -------- Paul Petty Kolbra #12 Ms Dixie Final assembly! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110663#110663 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:54 PM PST US From: WillUribe@aol.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Check out some boring video From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GeoR38@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video question.... i noticed there was a crosswind from your left, yet you used a right pattern..... also where was that....seemed a little like El PASO OR New Mexico. Video was taken in El Paso, TX and at this airport ultralights and gliders use a north side traffic pattern. GA use a south side traffic pattern. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Petty Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Check out some boring video Great stuff Will! Where is that airport and how long is that runway? It is Horizon Airport T27 in El Paso, TX the runway is 6885' X 50' do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:44 PM PST US From: possums Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video At 10:36 AM 5/3/2007, you wrote: >From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums >Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 PM >To: kolb-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video > > >How'd you get the vibration out ? > I did nothing, I guess it has more to do with the camcorder's > image stabilizer function. Just wondered....I've got the image stabilizer on two different cameras. One digital one Hi-8 Never could get the shaking out when I connected either one of them to the airframe, or even the wing unless I practically turned the engine off. My head acts as a perfect shock absorber, but it would be nice to not have to wear the camera. I like the idea of having it look over your shoulder and being able to click it on and off when something interesting happens. Nice Job. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:57:37 PM PST US From: "Richard Pike" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video Years ago, shot video all fall from my Hummer, used a camera carrier that suspended the camera from bungee cords. Made a cradle that attached to the camera using the 1/4" mount in the base, curved around above the camera. Attached to the airframe was a pivoting bracket that pointed forward (default) but could be turned from side to side, And since the camera was hanging from bungees off that bracket (about 2" between camera bracket and support bracket) you could depress or elevate the camera as well. No vibration, worked great. It sat out in the free air about 8" to the left of the cockpit where I could aim it with my left hand, or turn it loose and it just pointed straight ahead. These were the early days of VCR's, "portable" meant using a huge RCA VCR hanging from the main tube in it's own harness to keep it from being vibrated to death by the mighty Rotax 277, powered it off the 12V system in the aircraft, with a huge coax connector to the big, old fashioned VCR camera which was as big as my arm. Heavy too, that's probably why it didn't vibrate, too much mass. Color was crummy, but had a lot of fun, dubbed the whole thing to music. Thinking about doing it again this fall with the MKIII, could make a bracket that uses the 3/16" bolt hole in the fuselage side by my left elbow, and clamp a top mount to the cage right by the top seat belt mount. Use the half doors and be all set. My old Sony Handycam only weighs a tenth of what that original mess weighed, will probably have to ballast it to keep the vibration out. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (42OldPoops) ----- Original Message ----- From: possums To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video At 10:36 AM 5/3/2007, you wrote: From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of possums Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:23 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video How'd you get the vibration out ? I did nothing, I guess it has more to do with the camcorder's image stabilizer function. Just wondered....I've got the image stabilizer on two different cameras. One digital one Hi-8 Never could get the shaking out when I connected either one of them to the airframe, or even the wing unless I practically turned the engine off. My head acts as a perfect shock absorber, but it would be nice to not have to wear the camera. I like the idea of having it look over your shoulder and being able to click it on and off when something interesting happens. Nice Job. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:09:15 PM PST US From: "David Key" Subject: Kolb-List: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH I need to get a bi-annual flight review, do I need to have a POH for my plane? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:30 PM PST US From: david@davidlehman.net Subject: RE: Kolb-List: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH No... -----Original Message----- From: "David Key" Sent: 5/3/2007 7:08 PM Subject: Kolb-List: BiAnnual Flight Review - POH I need to get a bi-annual flight review, do I need to have a POH for my plane? .. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:48 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Check out some boring video At 09:52 PM 5/3/2007, you wrote: >Years ago, shot video all fall from my Hummer, used a camera carrier >that suspended the camera from bungee cords. I did that too, Big camera, bungee cords, springy steel plate rivet mounted on the side of my 1983 CGS Hawk. BTW that was the top of the line 1983 utralight, ailerons, flaps, etc. Heck ....back then a double surface wing was a big thing. But still, the vibrations made the video unwatchable for most anybody but me. The new stabilizer chips take out the big jerky moves, but don't seem to do much for the little engine vibrations. I have remotes to turn my cameras on an off, so I don't need to have them wasting memory or film even when they are out on the wings or on the tail. If anybody could really solve the vibration problem, we all could do amazing videos ...I mean the 5 minutes you get in the average 3 hour flight. Here is what my old HI-8 set up off looks like, the new digital is much smaller and much cleaner. I got a little box to convert the VHS/Hi-8 stuff to digital so I can load it on Goggle. I ought to send "Larry out west"?" my old system and let him shoot some stuff to entertain us. I'll ever convert it and load it on Goggle for him. Hi-8/VHS converted - "Old" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9177096133625180462&hl=en Digital "mostly" http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8558932262133094065&hl=en ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:40 PM PST US From: N27SB@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: GPS failure In a message dated 5/3/2007 12:14:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, orcabonita@hotmail.com writes: As I said before, if you are the type of person that must have a backup to your GPS, get another GPS, its cheaper, works better, and is simpler and more reliable than a VOR setup. GPS non avialability because sattelites are not in position is so rare, its not even wroth thinking aobut unless you are using it for a very tight IFR approach. Jetpilot, I could not agree with you less, a few years ago I was returning form the Bahamas's, You know, right into the middle of the Bermuda Triangle and had bad weather in the way, GPS went blink, LORAN C went blank. I did a 180 and turned on the VOR and it agreed with my compass and stopwatch. I went with that. Landed at Treasure Cay and had a few Dark and Stormies. My feeling is, when things go wrong it is nice to have at least two independent NAV aids that agree versus two of the same type. When the power goes off and the flashlight does not work, Us old guys will still light a match. worth what you paid for it Steve B do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:36 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Where are Larry and Arty From: "R. Hankins" Larry called this evening from Casa Grande, AZ. They flew approx. 8 hours today. 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